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honesttalk21:
That’s actually a misuse of the no true Scotsman fallacy. It only applies if someone redefines Islam to exclude wrongdoing but that’s not what’s happening here. The point is that the Qur’an itself never commands killing for disbelief or apostasy; it explicitly says, there is no compulsion in religio. The distinction isn’t about true vs false muslims. It’s about the difference between Islamic teaching and political abuse done in its name.

As for taqiyya; a group quickly abuse and misinterprete, it’s not a permit to lie but a narrow, defensive allowance used historically to protect one’s life under persecution. Claiming that all Muslim apologists lie ignores both context and sincerity. Critique should target distortions not assume deceit is the norm.

I don't think you know what the no true Scotsman fallacy is.

The "no true Scotsman" fallacy is an informal logical fallacy where a generalization is defended against a counterexample by arbitrarily changing the definition of the group to exclude the counterexample. Instead of revising the initial claim, the person dismisses the individual as not being a "true" or "pure" member of the group. This is a form of appeal to purity or moving the goalposts

You are claiming some people are not practicing proper Islam because they claim that their holy book commands them to kill anyone who leaves the religion. The question you should be tackling is why they think they are given that command not trying to claim they aren't practicing proper Islam.

Not sure why you are mentioning taqiyya cos I didn't say anything about it.

DeepSight:
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If he' still sending money to them, chances are he is still sending money to her as well.
Therefore, by triangulation and quantum equation, Okafor is in the wardrobe already.

I don't what to presume but I can see the pathway to someone thinking that. I would give the benefit of doubt till proven wrong.

Kobojunkie:
I can understand her suggesting her folks keep their interactions with her ex away from her husband, but I don't understand you suggesting she speak to the ex to cool it with the gifts. Why should she need to potentially sabotage the joy of her family for her husband's sake?

Who is more important to the family, their daughter/sister's husband or someone who isn't family.

Kobojunkie:
Do something like?

Talk to her people to stop being loud mouths and bringing up their friendship with her ex.

Tell her ex to cool it with the gifts.

Any number of other solutions.

Feisu:
My wife still keeps contact with her married ex. She says they parted peacefully so they are still friends.
I didn't have an issue with it.

But I recently found out he sends money and gifts to my inlaws and they are all so happy with that. Even celebrating this in my presence and saying I shouldn't be jealous or anything because their daughter knows she's married and their relationship was in the past.

This doesn't sit well with me.

I also know for a fact that my parents wouldn't accept unsolicited gifts from my ex or that of my siblings.

Unless he is in direct contact and remained friendly with them then it is weird but I feel your discomfort. However if your wife is not willing to listen to you when you say you are not comfortable then there are issues o!

Talk to your wife and express exactly what makes you uncomfortable with the situation. Hopefully she'll listen and do something about it.

dre11:
https://dailytrust.com/wike-under-fire-for-flying-sons-abroad-on-official-trip/?noamp=available

Baba no send una o! E just dey cruise anyhow, na you get your mouth. LoLz.

Are we ever going to have leaders with a sense of decency and fairness?!

God1000:
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-orders-pentagon-begin-testing-nuclear-weapons-immediately-rcna240681?

Maybe he or someone close to him watched House of Dynamite or they are just posturing for China because Trump is supposed to meet with Xi.

basilico:
Trump awarded the highest honor by South Korea. Plus a golden kings crown one of only 6 surviving.
He should wear it on arrival . This should drive the liberals insane .

He's not a king but he should absolutely wear a crown. Na wa for reasoning.

raumdeuter:
That is why you get a lawyer who will guide you on what you need to do.

Read this article and tell me why having a lawyer did nothing for a person with a green card getting deported.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-deported-us-citizen-laos-b2854685.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Stolen:
THANK GOD, I'M A BLACK MAN SOUNDING LIKE THIS AGAINST OBAMA, IMAGINE WAT U WOULD HAVE SAID HAD I BEEN YOUR ONYIBO.


THAT GOES TO SHOW U THAT A ROTTEN APPLE IS FAR BETTER.


SINCE OBAMA, AMERICA THE BEDROCK OF DEMOCRACY LOST ITS VALOUR.



WE HAVE HAD RIGGED ELECTION AND NOW TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS THAT ELECTED TRUMP WITH GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.


BY THE TIME DEMS GET WAT THEY CALLED FOR, THEY WILL HAVE NOBODY BUT THEMSELVES TO BLAME.



TRUMP WILL BE YOUR PRESIDENT UNTIL 2028 AND MAY EVEN RUN FOR THIRD TERM IF U KEEP PUSHING.

Guy stay on track and stop trying to go off to something else.

walosky:
Na this Kain thing she go carry? Ned is even better than this sack of gbegiri

Police! I want to report a murder in cold blood! LMAO!

Ezmans:
Why is baba cry over it , inviting media because of it, because it pained him because medicals there are excellent

People don't go to US for medicals. Their prices are insane.

FarahAideed:
90 year old man child , he destroyed his green card over nothing and is now crying foul

Did you even read? The green card is separate from the visa. He relinquished his green card voluntarily and went to obtain a visa instead.

judewrites:
Forever young, I wanna be forever young 🎶🎵🎶🎵....

Get ready for old age, because whether you like it or not_it's coming.

My 70yr old mother loves that song. LoLz.

naptu2:
https://news.sky.com/story/fawlty-towers-actress-prunella-scales-has-died-13458606

Wow she was older than John Cleese! Interesting.

Valar Morghulis. Rest in peace.

raumdeuter:
Legal permanent residents are Green card holders and Citizens
Those on some type of visas are temporary residents and its your responsibility to ensure you are still in status and not violate your visa requirement
You checking in for 30yrs or 100yrs does not make you a permanent resident until you do what is needed. Its not the officials responsibility to help him change his status

Its like in a school, its your responsibility to register for courses and ensure you graduate, staying in the school for 10yrs without doing what is required wont make you a graduate

There are several ways to be on track to being a green card holder.

I didn't say it was the officials responsibility to help him change his status. It is the officials responsibility to tell him if he missed something. I don't know of any official procedure where if your documents are not in order they don't tell you you missed something.

armyofone:


Hope to Nigeria - he should teaching English to prisoners.

He was sent to Eswatini. And from what I've read he is in for some interesting time.

raumdeuter:
How is he supposed to know his papers were not in orders? Does he have a Green card or a US passport?

How will someone claim they dont know his papers is not right? If you dont know the status of your papers, maybe you deserve to be sent out

Huh? Are you saying the only US residents are holders of green card or a US passport?

What was his yearly check in for then? What were they checking if not his status? Someone has been checking in for more than 30 years and you want to claim he should have known he was not allowed to be in the country. The officials didn't know?

Stolen:
WHAT WAS BIDEN DOING AND OBAMA BEFORE HIM?



PLEASE ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

Obama wasn't before Biden, Trump was before Biden.

Why do you guys also like to pivot to something else. Stay on the topic. We aren't discussing Obama or Biden.

Stolen:
I'M NOT AN EXTREMIST.


I'M MORE OF A REALIST.



MANY HERE ARE EXTREME, BUT THEN WEN U LOOK AT AFRICA, ARE U SURPRISE?



WEN U CANT LEARN TO SEE POLITICAL PARTY AS TWO WINGS OF A PLANE FLYING IN THE SMAE DIRECTION, WITH U GETTING PLAYED LEFT AND RIGHT.



PLANE OR BIRD SAME PRINCIPLE, TRUMP PROMISED TO END WAR IN UKRAINE HAS HE DONE SO?


HE IS EVEN DOING FAR WOSRT THAN BIDEN AND MAKING WORST THREAT AGAINST RUSSIA.


ONLY POSITIVE IS HE IS WILLING TO MEET PUTIN AND BIDEN WAS NOT.

Someone wants to fly the plane into the ground and you say you support him.

raumdeuter:
If he cannot fix his papers, does he expect the country to allow him continue to stay without the right papers?

The question is how is he supposed to know his papers were not in order if the government officials who he goes to for yearly check ins don't tell him?

raumdeuter:
Nearly 50yrs and his papers didnt get fixed?

Someone who went for yearly check in and was doing that when he grabbed, who is supposed to tell him his papers were not in order?

Stolen:
THERE IS NO WAY TO AVOID THE CHAOS LOOMING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOOD STAMP ENDING IN A FEW DAYS.



I CANNOT SUPPORT OR EVEN JUSTIFY EVERYTHING TRUMP DOES, BUT I CERTAINLY CANNOT BE WOKE EITHER.



I RATHER RIIDE OUT TRUMP CRITICALLY AND HOPE FOR THE BEST, BECAUSE HE IS ON A CLEAN UP MISSION.

This is funny so even if he turns into a full-blown fascist, you'll be satisfied to merely be critical as he turns people's lives into a living hell.

honesttalk21:
Indeed that’s a fair concern but it’s important to separate Islam from how some people or regimes misuse it. The Qur’an clearly says, there is no compulsion in religion (2:256), revealed when Muslims already held power proving it wasn’t about weakness or convenience. Later jurists linked apostasy with treason in political contexts, not simple disbelief. That is culture and politics, not divine command. In Islam, faith is a matter of conscience not coercion.

You cannot separate do that separation honestly without launching into a no true Scotsman fallacy. Are these people Muslims practicing Islam? YES, they are. They believe their holy book commands them to do it, and they are following it to the point they even commit state resources to fulfil it. Your answer barely addresses the reality, you sound kinda idealistic and I wish that was the case, but it isn't.

They ain't seen nothing yet.

honesttalk21:
Those verses weren’t blanket orders to kill unbelievers. They were wartime instructions after enemies broke treaties and attacked Muslims. Islam’s principle stays clear; there is no compulsion in religion (Q 2:256).

Banu Qurayza’s case wasn’t about faith. It was treason judged by their own chosen arbiter under tribal law.

Even the kill apostates hadiths referred to open rebellion, not personal disbelief. The Qur’an gives no earthly penalty for leaving Islam. Only God judges belief.

In context, these weren’t commands for violence but for justice and defense.

I always hear this but in practice it tends to be quite different depending on certain factors. A person in certain places CANNOT openly declare that they have left Islam, they will be kill or prosecuted. Where is the "no compulsion"?

miracle002:
Do you know that it is not everybody you see on the street, on the road, in the market place, in your place of work, in your compound, or even in the church are human beings.

Those people you are seeing are not human beings at all, rather they are literal demons covered with human flesh.

This is not a conspiracy theory nor a hoax. This is not what I read in a book or a story or what someone told me. This is what I have seen so many times whenever God choses to open my eyes.

These demons in human form may be your siblings, your parents, your children, your spouse, your friend, your colleague in your place of work, your boss he may even be your Pastor in your church.

This is how you people start. Tomorrow you will start killing your mother or burning the fingers of little children accusing them of being demons.

People like you are a danger to society.

seunmsg:
lol. When the US government is after you and your business, they will do everything to bring you down. Before the plea deal, they already banned all US banks from transacting with the exchange. A lot of European countries were also withdrawing financial services to the company. A long legal battle would have killed off the company and crypto in general. So, the wise thing to do was to make the sacrifice and save the company.

Even the Judge was reluctant to send CZ to prison. The Biden government wanted three years but the Judge grudgingly sent him to prison for four months after complaining that the request of the Biden administration is unheard of in 30 years.

They banned them from tansfers yet he was still making transfers to US banks? How?

Prosecutors can arraign for anything they think they can get away with including the death penalty but it is up to the judge and/or jury. I dunno why you think it is remarkable in the US justice system for this to happen.

Meanwhile Trump is suing media companies and getting them to pay heavy fines, I don't hear you complaining of executive intimidation. I bet you'll come up with an excuse why it is different.

MaxInDHouse:
What a shame?
Atheism has failed you now you feel like telling everyone what they must do yet Atheism is about self awareness which negates the idea of telling others what they should or shouldn't do.
Well i wasn't talking to you rather i'm creating an awareness that the so called terrorists don't know the difference between true Christians and false religions claiming Christians so you can't tell me what to do if you are an atheist!🙂

I dunno why you are crying over something you believe your god commanded you to do. Go to them and show them the difference or you are just lying to yourself, as usual. LoLz.

seunmsg:
In the early days of Binance when the Crypto industry was largely unregulated, some folks used the exchange for money laundering. When this was discovered, CZ cooperated with security agencies to block the funds and put measures in place to ensure such things don’t happen again.

Years later, he exposed the corruption going on in FTX, a crypto exchange owned by an American who was a big time donor to the democrat. SBF was sent to prison for the exposure and the Biden administration went all out to destroy CZ, Binance and indeed the entire crypto industry.

So they went back to the 2017 issues and took CZ to court over it. It was a process that would have a huge impact on Binance and the industry so CZ opted to resign as Binance CEO and and entered a plea bargain that would see him plead guilty for the offense of the exchange since he’s the target and free Binance from any wrongdoing. That’s how he ended up going to prison for four months.

A lawyer will advise you take a plea deal because the prosecution probably has something bigger in their arsenal that will devastate you in court.