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 Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus: The Re-incarnation Of Joseph by LoveKing(op): 10:57am On Apr 25, 2007 |
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| TV/Movies › Best Nigerian Film Ever: 'Last Men Of New Jerusalem'? by LoveKing(op): 10:49am On Apr 25, 2007 |
Men i'm one of those guys that utterly hate nigeria movies but i got to watch one recently Last Men of New Jerusalem with patience ozokwor ,nkiru sylvanaus and some others and Geez this is the best Nigerian film ever. concept tight, poetry lines with the ghetto ruggedity style, real life actions e.t.c men this is the bomb! and comedy too in its highest! |
| Christianity Etc › Jesus: The Re-incarnation Of Joseph by LoveKing(op): 10:23am On Apr 25, 2007 |
Scriptural Comparisons Between Joseph and Jesus Parallel between them: Joseph Jesus Both were the favorite son of a wealthy father. Gen. 37:3 Matt. 3:17 Both were a shepherd of his father's sheep. Gen. 37:2 John 10:11-14 Both were taken into Egypt to avoid being killed. Gen. 37:28 Matt. 2:13 Both became a servant. Gen. 39:4 Phil. 2:7 Both began their ministry at the age of thirty years old. Gen. 41:46 Luke 3:23 Both were filled with the Spirit of God. Gen. 41:38 Luke 4:1 Both returned good for evil. Gen. 50:20 Matt. 5:44 Both were humble and unspoiled by wealth. Gen. 45:7-8 John 13:12 Both were taught by God. Gen. 41:16 John 5:19 Both loved people freely. Gen. 45:15 John 13:34 Both gained the confidence of others quickly. Gen. 39:3 Matt. 8:8 Both gave bread to hungry people who came to him. Gen. 41:57 Mark 6:41 Both resisted the most difficult temptations. Gen. 39:8-9 Heb. 4:15 Both were given visions of the future. Gen. 37:6 Matt. 24:3 Both tested people to reveal their true nature. Gen. 42:25 Mark 11:30 Both were hated for their teachings. Gen. 37:8 John 7:7 Both were sold for the price of a slave. Gen. 37:28 Matt. 26:15 Both were falsely accused. Gen. 39:14 Mark 14:56 Both were silent before their accusers. Gen. 39:20 Mark 15:4 Both were condemned between two prisoners. Gen. 40:2-3 Luke 23:32 Both arose into a new life. Gen. 41:41 Mark 16:6 Both were not recognized by their own brethren. Gen. 42.8 Luke 24:37 Both returned to their father. Gen. 46:29 Mark 16:19 Both became royalty. Gen. 45:8 Rev. 19:16 Jesus as a Reincarnation of Joseph The life of Joseph, son of Jacob in the Old Testament, has some of the most interesting parallels to the life of Jesus which suggests that Joseph may have been a previous incarnation of Jesus. In Judaism, the Messiah was thought of as the son of Joseph as well the son of David. As the son of David, the Messiah will rule upon the throne of David to bring glory to Israel and peace to the world. As the son of Joseph, Judaism also thought of the Messiah as someone who would suffer unjustly at the hands of his brothers before ultimately being exalted by God. Joseph's father was Jacob, the grandson of Abraham. Jacob fathered twelve sons from whom have sprung the twelve tribes of Israel. Because of this, Jacob's name was later changed to Israel. Joseph was Israel's favorite son. Parallels Between the Lives of Joseph and Jesus The following are the amazing parallels between Joseph and Jesus which suggests a karmic link between them and another past life connection of Jesus. (1) Jesus and Joseph were both born through miracles. Jesus through the virgin birth (Matt. 1:18-23) and Joseph through Rachel's barren womb which was opened by God (Gen. 30:22-24). (2) Joseph's father loved him more than his brothers. Jesus is the beloved son and preferred one of the Father. (3) Both are described in the Bible to be very pious men who received revelations from God. The Bible records no sin in the life of either Joseph or Jesus. (4) Jesus and Joseph both went to Egypt in their youth. Both began their life's work at the age of thirty (Gen. 41:46, Luke 3:23). This parallel was noted by Origen in his Homilies on Genesis (II,5). (5) The course of the lives of Joseph and Jesus were dramatically changed by the power of dreams. Joseph became an interpreter of his own dreams and the dreams of others which he used to save everyone's life including his own. It was also a dream which led Jesus' earthly father, Joseph, to flee Israel for their lives to Egypt. In the same way, it was a dream of Joseph while acting as prince of Egypt which led his family out of Israel and into Egypt. After the danger was over, God called both Joseph's family and Jesus' family out of Egypt and back to Israel as an act of salvation. (Hosea 11:1 and Matt. 2:15). (6) Both Joseph and Jesus were hated because of their greatness. Joseph had a dream which made it clear that he would rule over his brothers some day and for this they hated him: "Joseph had a dream, and when he told it to his brothers, they hated him all the more. He said to them, ?Listen to this dream I had: We were binding sheaves of grain out in the field when suddenly my sheaf rose and stood upright, while your sheaves gathered around mine and bowed down to it.? His brothers said to him, ?Do you intend to reign over us? Will you actually rule us?? And they hated him all the more because of his dream and what he had said.'" (Gen. 37:5-  Jesus encountered the same reaction from his brothers and everyone in town. After preaching in his own hometown, Jesus received the following response: ?Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?? And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, ?Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.? (Matt.13:55-57) While the religious leaders were rejecting Jesus, even some of Jesus' own family rejected him. In John 7:5, his own brothers asked Jesus for more signs because: "Even his own brothers did not believe in him." (John 7:5) (7) But ultimately, Joseph and Jesus attained great authority and inspired confidence in those around them. When the famine arrived and the grain ran out in Egypt, the Pharaoh told the Egyptians: ?Go to Joseph and do whatever he tells you? (Gen. 41:55) Likewise, Jesus' mother told the servants at the marriage feast in Cana to do what Jesus tells them to do when the wine runs out: ?Do whatever he tells you.? (John 2 :5) ( Joseph miraculously gave bread to the people around him because he received God's revelation which saved the people from dying during the famine. Jesus miraculously gave bread to the people around him because he received God's revelation which saved the people from the spiritual famine.(9) Joseph and Jesus were both sent by their fathers to their brothers who hated them and rejected their claim to preeminence. In the seventh chapter of Acts in the New Testament, the martyr Stephen gives a speech before he is stoned to death. In it, Stephen draws a parallel between Joseph and Jesus: "The patriarchs, jealous of Joseph, sold him into Egypt; but God was with him, and rescued him out of all his afflictions, and gave him favor and wisdom before Pharaoh, king of Egypt, who made him governor over Egypt and over all his household. Now there came a famine throughout all Egypt and Canaan and great affliction and our fathers could find no food. But when Jacob heard that there was grain in Egypt, he sent forth our fathers the first time. And at the second visit Joseph made himself known to his brothers, and Joseph's family became known to Pharaoh. And Joseph sent and called to him Jacob his father and all his kindred, seventy-five souls." (Acts 7:9-14) The purpose of Stephen's speech was to show how the enemies of Jesus were jealous of him in the same way that Joseph's brothers were jealous of him. This theme of jealousy is also used in three other places in Acts and they always describe the jealousy of the apostle's opponents due to the success of the apostle's gathering around them more people who become believers. (see Acts 5:17, Acts 13:45, Acts 17:5). (10) Because of envy, Joseph's brothers conspired to kill Joseph: "?So Joseph went after his brothers and found them near Dothan. But they saw him in the distance, and before he reached them, they plotted to kill him. ?Here comes that dreamer!? they said to each other. ?Come now, let's kill him and throw him into one of these cisterns and say that a ferocious animal devoured him. Then we'll see what comes of his dreams.? (Gen. 37:18-19) In the same way, the religious leaders hated Jesus because through his actions and words demonstrated that he was greater than them. Jesus' claims to come from heaven, be greater than Abraham, have God as his own Father, and be the one of whom Moses wrote about, caused hatred and envy which caused them to conspire to kill him: "Then the chief priests and the elders of the people assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him." (Matt. 26:3-4) (11) Joseph was sold into Egypt on the advice of his brother Judah. Jesus was handed over to the Romans by the hand of his disciple Judas. (12) Joseph did not utter a word to his brothers when they sold him. Jesus did not utter a word to the judges when they judged him. (13) Joseph asked the imprisoned chief cup bearer not to forget him when he is released and reinstated at court. He said: ?Be sure to remember me when things go well for you." (Gen. 40:14) In the same words, the thief on the cross said in karmic fashion to Jesus: ?Remember me when you come into your kingdom.? (Luke 23:42) One could even extend this parallel to include the fact that Jesus was bearing the "cup" which his Father gave him to drink in the same way the cup bearer did for the Pharaoh. (14) Two other prisoners were with Joseph suffering the same punishment. Two other prisoners were with Jesus suffering the same punishment. In Joseph's case, it is written: "After they had been in custody for some time, each of the two men - the cupbearer and the baker of the king of Egypt, who were being held in prison - had a dream the same night, and each dream had a meaning of its own." (Gen. 40:4-5) The two prisoners told Joseph their dreams for which Joseph interpreted. As a result of these two dreams, death would come to one of the prisoners but release and exaltation for the other. In Jesus' case, it is written that: "Two robbers were crucified with him, one on his right and one on his left." (Matt. 27:38) As it was in Joseph's case, one prisoner would be condemned while the other prisoner would be released and find salvation: "One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: ?Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!? But the other criminal rebuked him. ?Don't you fear God,? he said, ?since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.? Then he said, ?Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.? Jesus answered him, ?I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.? (Luke 23:39-43) (15) In persecution, Jesus and Joseph were stripped of their robes and placed in a pit for three days where they ultimately arose victorious to be great princes and became exalted by God for their great suffering. In the pre-Christian apocryphal Jewish text called "Testament of Joseph," Joseph's suffering is described in a way that could easily apply to Jesus as well: "My brothers hated me but the Lord loved me. They wanted to kill me but the God of my fathers preserved me. Into a cistern they lowered me, the most High raised me up. They sold me into slavery, the Lord of all set me free. I was taken into captivity, the strength of His hand set me free. I was overtaken by hunger, the Lord Himself fed me generously. I was alone and God came to help me. I was in weakness and the Lord showed His concern for me. I was in prison and the Savior acted graciously on my behalf. I was in bonds and He loosed me. Falsely accused, and He testified on my behalf. Assaulted by bitter words of the Egyptians, and He rescued me. A slave, and He exalted me." (Testament of Joseph 1:4-7) (16) Both Joseph and Jesus are persecuted because of false witnesses. The wife of Potiphar bears false witness against Joseph before the members of her household and before her husband (Gen. 39:14-19). Witnesses falsely accused Jesus before the Sanhedrin (Matt. 26:60-62, Mark 14:55-59) and before Pilate (Matt. 27:12-14, Mark 15:3-5). Joseph went to prison because of the false witnesses. Jesus went to hell after being crucified because of false witnesses. The words "prison" and "hell" are often used interchangeably in the Bible. (17) Joseph becomes a model of sexual purity in the early Church as found in the early Christian apocryphal texts of the Protevangelium of James and the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew. They record how Jesus' earthly father, Joseph, was falsely accused of having had sexual relations with the virgin Mary before their marriage and how he was arrested by the religious authorities and forced to submit himself to a test to prove his purity. In the same way, Joseph refused the sexual advances of Potiphar's wife and this made him a model of the sexual purity praised by many Church Fathers such as Origen who wrote: "Joseph, refused to give in to passion, despite the entreaties and threats of the one who was legally his mistress ? Joseph preferred prison to the loss of his chastity." (Against Celsus IV,46 ). In this sense, Joseph is shown as a man who resisted the seduction of a woman and reversing the karmic debt for the sin of Adam who was tempted by Eve. Origen credited Joseph's ultimate rule over Egypt to Joseph's mastery over his own body: "Joseph, whom no sensual passion was able to vanquish, became lord and master of all Egypt," (Homilies on Genesis XV,3) Joseph, the earthly father of Jesus, was also seen as a model of this same purity as was the virgin Mary whose purity reversed the karmic transgression of Eve thereby attaining perfection as a mother. (18) Joseph's brothers smeared his robe with goat's blood in order to blame Joseph's demise on wild animals. On the day of Jesus' death, it was Passover and a goat is sacrificed for the atonement of sins. (19) Both Joseph and Jesus were men among many brothers who rejected them but saved by God and raised to be the judge of their brothers. This same theme can be found in Jesus' parable of the murderous tenants in the vineyard. It is a parable which can be found in all three synoptic gospels. The parable is an important key to understanding how Jesus' rejection and death is to be understood (see Matt. 21:33-46, Mark 12:1-11, Luke 20:9-19). In the parable, evil men plot to kill the son of the vineyard owner, saying: ?This is the heir; come let us kill him and the inheritance will be ours.? (Matt. 21:38, Mark 12:7, Luke 20:14). These words are even similar to the words of Joseph's brothers when they plotted to kill Joseph: "Come now, let's kill him and throw him into one of these cisterns" (Gen. 37:20) (20) Both were sold for the price of a slave. Joseph was sold for 20 shekels of silver and Jesus was sold for 30 pieces. Both were assigned with two other prisoners. Church Father Tertullian (A.D. 145-220) wrote explicitly about the parallels between Joseph and Jesus and their suffering: "Joseph himself was made a figure of Christ in this point alone, that he suffered persecution at the hands of his brethren, and was sold into Egypt on account of the favor of God. Likewise, Christ was sold by Israel according to the flesh, by his brethren, when he is betrayed by Judas." (7,10 ) In the Treatises of Aphrahat the Persian, a Father of the Syriac tradition, stated: Joseph persecuted is the image of Jesus persecuted (21,9). (21) The stories of Joseph and Jesus are both a kind of "rags to riches" story. Joseph was brought out of the pit and prison to be exalted to the Pharaoh's right hand: "Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, ?Since God has made all this known to you, there is no one so discerning and wise as you. You shall be in charge of my palace, and all my people are to submit to your orders. Only with respect to the throne will I be greater than you.? So Pharaoh said to Joseph, ?I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt.? Then Pharaoh took his signet ring from his finger and put it on Joseph's finger. He dressed him in robes of fine linen and put a gold chain around his neck. He had him ride in a chariot as His second in command." (Gen. 40:39-41) Jesus was brought out from the pit after death and exalted to the Father's right hand: "And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death - even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:8-11) (22) Forgiveness and reconciliation are the major aspects concerning the lives of both Joseph and Jesus. Caesar of Arles, in his Sermon XC, drew this parallel between Joseph and Jesus: "He [Joseph] embraced them one by one and shed tears over each one of them. Watering the neck of each one of them, who feared him, he washed away the hate of his brothers by the tears of his love." (XL,4). The actual Bible verse referred to here is Genesis 45:14 when Joseph's dramatic revealing of his true identity to his brothers and their reconciliation and his forgiveness is the dramatic climax of the story of Joseph: "Do not be distressed and do not be angry with yourselves for selling me here, because it was to save lives that God sent me ahead of you , So then, it was not you who sent me here, but God , Then he threw his arms around his brother Benjamin and wept, and Benjamin embraced him, weeping. And he kissed all his brothers and wept over them. Afterward his brothers talked with him." (Gen. 45:5-14) In a similar vein, Jesus was revealed as the Son of God while on the cross when he forgives his brothers: ?Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.? (Luke 23:34) (23) When Mary announced Jesus' resurrection to the disciples, they didn't believe it: ?But these words seemed to them an idle tale and they did not believe them.? (Luke 24:11) Likewise, Joseph's father is unbelieving when his sons announce to him that Joseph is alive: ?But he was as one stunned for he did not believe them.? (Gen. 45:26) (24) When Joseph's father finally did see Joseph, he stated that now he is read to die: ?Now I can die, now that I have seen you again, and seen you still alive.? (Gen. 46:30) The same thing was said by Simeon the Elder, awaiting the Messiah in the Temple when he meets Jesus and recognized him as the long awaited Messiah. He exclaimed: ?Lord, let your servant now depart in peace according to your word. My eyes have seen your salvation.? (Luke 2:29-30) (25) The brothers of Joseph recovered his bones from Egypt and brought them to the Promised Land. The Father of Jesus resurrected his body from Hades and brought him to heaven. Near-Death Experiencer Edgar Cayce Affirmed Joseph and Jesus are Different Incarnations of the Same Soul Edgar Cayce identified Joseph, the son of Jacob, as one of the incarnations of the Jesus-entity soul. According to Cayce, Joseph's escape from the pit was not only a literal event, but a symbolic anticipation of Jesus' resurrection. In John Van Auken's excellent article entitled "Toward a Universal Christ" he wrote: Edgar Cayce asked us, ?What will you do with this man Jesus of Nazareth ? Jeshua of Jerusalem, Joshua in Shiloh, Joseph in the court of Pharaoh, Melchizedek as he blessed Abraham, Enoch as he warned the people, Adam as he listened to Eve?? In a reading for a person who had both Jewish and Christian training and was wrestling to decide which religion he preferred, the Source of Cayce's readings asked: ?Have you not found that the essence, the truth, the real truth is ONE? Mercy and justice; peace and harmony. For without Moses and his leader Joshua (that was bodily Jesus) there is no Christ. Christ is not a man. Jesus was the man; Christ the messenger; Christ in all ages, Jesus in one, Joshua in another, Melchizedek in another; these be those that led Judaism! These be they that came as the child of promise, as to the children of promise; and the promise is in you, that you lead as He has given you: ?Feed my sheep.'? (John Van Auken) http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen043.html |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Pray For Nigeria by LoveKing(m): 10:17am On Apr 25, 2007 |
Rubbish! which nightmare! please stop falsifying what u don't know. There are better ways to get attention Bolarge: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Secret Cults In Nigerian Universities. by LoveKing(m): 10:15am On Apr 25, 2007 |
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| Christianity Etc › Jesus: Re-incarnation Of Adam by LoveKing(op): 5:17pm On Apr 24, 2007 |
Identical Title: "Son of Man" The Hebrew word for "Adam" is "man". The title "Son of Man" is a reference to Adam. The phrases "Son of Man" and "Son of Adam" are inter-changeable. Jesus referred to himself using the phrase "Adam Kadmon" [Son of Man] to refer to the heavenly apocalyptic figure who is to come. Paul used the phrase "Adam Kadmon" as the archetypal man created in God's image who was the first and perfect representative of humanity who would return at the end of time and restore all things. (1) God's judgment upon Adam resulted in his reincarnation: "For dust you are and to dust you will return." (Gen. 3:19) Talmudists interpret this verse this way: Because Adam sinned it was necessary for him to reincarnate to make good the evil committed in his first existence; so he comes as David, and later is to come as Messiah. (2) The Bible mentions David reincarnating for the people: "Instead, they will serve the Lord their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them." (Jer. 30:9) In the traditions of the Talmudists, the soul of Adam reincarnated in David, and that on account of the sin of David against Uriah it will have to come again in the expected Messiah. Out of the three letters ADM (the name of the first man) the Talmudists always made the names Adam, David and Messiah. Identical Title: "Son of God" Adam: "the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God." (Luke 3:38) Jesus: "I believe that you are the Christ, the son of God." (John 11:27) As previously mentioned, the Bible gives the distinct title of "Son of God" to only three personalities in the entire Bible: Adam, Melchizedek, and Jesus. (1) God declares the "sons of God" to be divine: "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' (Psalm 82:6) (2) Jesus declares himself the "Son of God": "Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'? If he called them 'gods,' , what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?" (John 10:30-36) Identical Birth Order: First Born Adam: "The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being." (Gen. 2:7) Jesus: "Who is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of every creature" (Col. 1:14-15) Adam ("ben elohim"  is translated as "Son of God". This means Adam is first born to God.Identical Rule: Ruler of God's Creation Adam: "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." (Gen. 1:28) Jesus: "These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation." (Rev. 3:14) Identical Parent: Father of the Human Race Adam: "God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it." (Gen. 1:28) Adam: "Your first father sinned; your spokesmen rebelled against me." (Isaiah 43:27) Jesus: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30-33) Jesus: "He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6) Identical Essence: Human-Divine Unity Adam: "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness." (Gen. 1:26) Jesus: "All the fullness of deity in bodily form." (Col. 2:9) (1) Adam "the first man" and Jesus "the second man." "The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven." (1 Cor 15:47-49) Identical Pattern: Image and Copy Adam: "who was a pattern of the coming one [Christ]" (Rom. 5:14) The Greek translation of the word "pattern" is "tupos" which is defined as: An impression made by a stamp, an exact image, an exact model, a copy, a type, an example. In context, the phrase "who is a pattern of the coming one" ("ejstin tuvpo tou' mevllonto hos estin tupos tou mellontos" refers to Adam as a copy of Christ.Identical Positions: "First and Last" The first and last Adam: "The first Adam [Adam] became a living being; the last Adam [Jesus], a life-giving spirit." (1 Cor 15:45) Jesus: "I am the First and the Last." (Rev. 1:17) God: "I am the First and I am the Last." (Isaiah 48:12) The Bible refers to Jesus as "the First of God's creation" (human-divine being) and "the Last of God's creation" (human-divine being). The Son of God's "first incarnation" was as Adam. The Son of God's "last incarnation" was as Jesus. Identical Mortality: Immortal from the Beginning Adam: "You must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." (Gen 2:15-17) Jesus: "He was with God in the beginning." (John 1:1-2) Jesus: "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6) Identical Origins: "Beginning and End" Adam: "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'" (Mark 10:6) Jesus: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End." (Rev. 21:6) Identical Title: Logos (1) Adam is the "Logos". The term "Bar Nasha" or "Son of Man" refers to the "divine human form," the "Logos," the eternal "image of God." (source: John Rossner, In Search of the Primordial Tradition and the Cosmic Christ, p.189) (2) Jesus is the "Logos". "In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." (John 1:1-2) Identical Nature: Image of God Adam: "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness." (Gen. 1:26) Jesus: ", the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." (2 Cor. 4:4) Identical Sacrificial Result: First and Last Sacrifice (1) The first sacrifice was for physical needs: Adam: "The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them." (Gen. 3:21) (2) The last sacrifice was for spiritual needs: Jesus: "He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself." (Heb. 7:27-28) Identical Association: Tree of Life (1) In the beginning, Adam with the Tree of Life: "In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." (Gen. 2:9) (2) Adam's transgression banished people from the Tree of Life: "So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life." (Gen. 3:22-24) (3) Jesus' action restored people to the Tree of Life: "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God." (Rev. 2:7) "Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him." (Rev. 22:1-3) Identical in Near-Death Experiences: "Being of Light" (1) Adam appears to people after death: "So it is that when a man is about to depart from life, Adam, the first man, appears to him and asks him why and in what state he leaves the world. He says: "Woe to you that through you I have to die." To which Adam replies: "My son, I transgressed one commandment and was punished for so doing; see how many commandments of your Master, negative and positive, you have transgressed." (Jewish Kabbalistic book Zohar I, 57b) (2) The Messiah appears to people after death: Rene Turner, a Jewish woman, met the Messiah during her death experience. (3) Jesus appears to people after death: Jeanie Dicus, a Jewish woman, met Jesus during her death experience and Jesus asked her if she wanted to reincarnate. Identical Karma: Required to Pay for Original Sin The connection between Jesus and Adam is fundamental to Christian doctrine. Their connection is the foundation that holds together the entire Christian system of election, redemption, atonement, justification, regeneration and sanctification. The idea of Jesus "paying the penalty" for the transgressions of others makes no sense without his connection to Adam's mission of bringing in higher knowledge and its consequences. Without Adam as a previous incarnation as Jesus, the gospel message is absurd. Adam brought divine knowledge of good and evil into the world which resulted in both positive and negative consequences. Jesus came to reverse the negative consequences brought on by Adam by paying his karmic debt. This becomes apparent when we read how the Bible draws parallels between Adam and Christ: (1) The obedience of Jesus reversed the disobedience of Adam: "For just as through the disobedience of the one man [Adam] the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man [Jesus] the many will be made righteous." (Rom. 5:12-21) These verses describe the work of Adam being undone by the work of Jesus. This is an excellent example of how divine justice is meted out in the Bible and in Eastern religions. The only person who can satisfy divine justice by reversing the work of Adam would have to be Adam himself or an incarnation of Adam. Because Paul states that Jesus was the only one who can satisfy divine justice by paying the karmic debt of Adam indicates that it is possible that Adam was indeed an incarnation of Jesus. (2) After Satan caused Adam and Eve to sin, God passed judgment upon them. In doing so, God reveals a remarkable prophecy: Redemption will come through Eve - through the birth of a son. "Then the Lord God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." So the Lord God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." (Gen 3:13-15) This Bible verse is so remarkable that I want to break it down to analyze it because it not only supports the idea that Jesus was the reincarnation of Adam, but that the Virgin Mary was the reincarnation of Eve. In passing judgment, God stated that he will do the following: (1) Put enmity between Satan and Eve. (2) Put enmity between Satan's offspring (i.e., evil humans) and "Eve's offspring" (i.e., the Messiah) (3) The Messiah will crush Satan's head. (4) But Satan will strike the Messiah's heel. Let's examine each one separately: (1) Put enmity between Satan and Eve. "And I will put enmity between you (i.e., the serpent) and the woman," (Gen. 3:15) "When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child." (Rev. 12:17) (2) Put enmity between Satan's offspring (i.e., evil humans) and "Eve's offspring" (i.e., the Messiah) "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers. (Gen. 3:15) Jesus responded to those who wanted to kill him: "You belong to your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." (John 8:44-45) "This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother." (1 John 3:10) (3) The Messiah will crush Satan's head. "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head," (Gen. 3:15) "The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet." (Rom. 16:20) "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6) (4) But Satan will strike the Messiah's heel. "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." (Gen. 3:15-17) "Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve. And Judas went to the chief priests and the officers of the temple guard and discussed with them how he might betray Jesus." (Luke 22:3-4) "They have pierced my hands and my feet." (Psalm 22:16) Identical Burial Place: Golgotha According to the Catholic Encyclopedia: There was a tradition current among the Jews that the skull of Adam, after having been confided by Noah to his son Shem, and by the latter to Melchizedek, was finally deposited at the place called, for that reason, Golgotha. The Talmudists and the Fathers of the Church were aware of this tradition, and it survives in the skulls and bones placed at the foot of the crucifix. The Evangelists are not opposed to it, inasmuch as they speak of one and not of many skulls. (Luke, Mark, John, loc. cit.) Calvary is 140 feet south-east of the Holy Sepulchre and 13 feet above it. The early traditions mentioned at the beginning of this article still cling to it. The chapel of Adam beneath that of Calvary stands for the first. A picture in it represents the raising of Adam to life by the Precious Blood trickling down upon his skull. An altar is there dedicated to Melchizedek. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen041.html |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Dreamt Of Plane Crash: Let Us Pray! by LoveKing(m): 4:56pm On Apr 24, 2007 |
@y'all i've been watching this guys (jesu-s something) post for a while and i say he's a christian fanatic. Ehm how did he ever imagine and fake up a dream so serious? are you looking for attention or what? you are playing with people's emotion here! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Complete? by LoveKing(m): 4:36pm On Apr 24, 2007 |
@babs and y'all why you guys diversifying from issue? Islam in not involved in the context of things here so stop yapping about islam |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 7:37pm On Apr 23, 2007 |
@ a'll The topic is not offensive. It calls for reasoning. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 3:16pm On Apr 20, 2007 |
angelchi:Just have constant pure sex! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 3:01pm On Apr 20, 2007 |
Po Deep:This is not a direct statement and assumption is wrong in all cases because we are not sure of Paul's sexuality. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Complete? by LoveKing(m): 9:25am On Apr 20, 2007 |
MP007:NOPE! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 9:21am On Apr 20, 2007 |
@ po deep stop pointing out what u dont know!! how did you know he never had sex? before or after his conversion? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 9:20am On Apr 20, 2007 |
Po Deep:Paul had constant struggle with sexual urges (dont ask me where it is in the bible i wont even answer you) but yes he grew spiritually but do you know the extent of his growth  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm A Christian And I Smoke Herbs by LoveKing(m): 9:14am On Apr 20, 2007 |
i dodge am |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm A Christian And I Smoke Herbs by LoveKing(m): 4:54pm On Apr 19, 2007 |
redsun: |
| Romance › Re: My Boyfriend Is In A Hotel With Another Girl by LoveKing(m): 9:34am On Apr 19, 2007 |
Hopeozah: trash! he is your boyfriend not ur husband. so let him be and have your fun elsewhere! aba! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 9:24am On Apr 19, 2007 |
ziddy:you go wound oh! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Astral Travel Or Out Of Body Experiences by LoveKing(m): 9:19am On Apr 19, 2007 |
omoge:YES! |
| Crime › Re: The Official Website Of The 419 University Of Nigeria! by LoveKing(m): 9:12am On Apr 19, 2007 |
Wow this site is interesting!  |
| Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: White LovePeddler by LoveKing(m): 5:03pm On Apr 18, 2007 |
Go get a Indecency movie! dickhead! |
| Politics › Re: Election Results: Nationwide by LoveKing(m): 4:47pm On Apr 18, 2007 |
whats all these many many talk sef? lets just let things move the way they are. how many times have we shouted on the rooftop and they did even hear us. so we go siddon look! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 4:46pm On Apr 18, 2007 |
nossycheek:Ehen! so sex is now a sin! |
| Christianity Etc › Sex Is Important For Spiritual Growth by LoveKing(op): 4:01pm On Apr 17, 2007 |
The Church is so rigid about Sex. Sexual Freedom is necessary for Spiritual Growth. So be free about sex and having sex. God made it from the beginning and he wants us to enjoy it. |
| Christianity Etc › Does Truth Exist? by LoveKing(op): 3:52pm On Apr 17, 2007 |
This is not Philosophy. A Vanity i have noted in this life is that "we all stand for what we say,believe,and think as the truth". If this reasoning is positive then our different religion is the truth according to each of us ehm??i cant tell a muslim that his religion is false and a muslim cant tell me a christian that mine is false too.And the same way i cant tell a muslim that Muhammad is a hoax and he,the muslim, cant tell me that Jesus Christ is a sham. One way or the other, we were all born to what we believe. Some changed their belief later on in their adult life because they feel its the truth. But we are all men! if we all stand for what we believe as the truth then which is the TRUTH in all? I know according to Christianity Jesus Christ is the way. But would you tell a muslim that believing in Muhammad and Allah doesnt guarantee anyone salvation? would you say the same thing to a buddhist, taoist, a jew e.t.c? if they believe their God to be truth then it cant be false to them. living a good life is reality and living a bad life is also reality. so then does truth exist |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm A Christian And I Smoke Herbs by LoveKing(m): 3:32pm On Apr 17, 2007 |
The fact is that you all castigate the guy for opening his mind. |
