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Kobojunkie:
We did that didn't we? By looking at their DNA as well as how they lived and organized themselves?😒😒

Again, when you say, "Educate yourself," on what? 😒😒

On whatever you're trying to figure out with the aid of "wisdom of the past". Shortcut, just ask the Neanderthals, Bonobos or any of the other animals mentioned, they might hv pointers. 😏

Kobojunkie:
Educate yourself on what? 😒😒

On whatever you're trying to figure out with the aid of "wisdom of the past". Shortcut, just ask the Neanderthals, Bonobos or any of the other animals mentioned, they might hv pointers. 😏

Kobojunkie:
You are against people thinking to source their ideas from the Constitutions of nations past -- the Law of Moses, of which the 10 commandments belong, is the constitution of the ancient nation of Israel. My question is then, how do we determine right and wrong without ever consulting the wisdom of the past?😒😒😒

Which is why I said to educate urself, that seems as hard as expected for you.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting argument! You are against people thinking to source their ideas from the Constitutions of nations past -- the Law of Moses, of which the 10 commandments belong, is the constitution of the ancient nation of Israel. My question is then, how do we determine right and wrong without ever consulting the wisdom of the past?

Which is why I said to educate yourself, not hard really. Same way through which Neanderthals and early human species did, that they were able to help their sick and wounded. The same way the earliest civilizations developed social norms before those so-called 'wisdoms' were even codified. Same way animals like Bonobos, Elephants, Dolphins, Capuchin Monkeys, Meerkats, Dogs amongst others are able to display the building blocks like empathy, reciprocity, cooperation, altruism, punishing offenders in their social heirachies.

If they can get it working out without having to consult so called "wisdom" - whose most frequent recommendation was stoning people to death, in a display of "objective morality" - then I'm sure a Homo Sapien of higher intelligence should be able to do better. All living things want to do one thing which is survive, this also goes for social species who tend to depend on one another for survival which in turn leads them to having a goal centred on flourishing of the group.

Through experience certain behaviours and actions either help or hinder prospects of said goal. As social interactions gets more complex, individuals in the group would get increasingly interdependent, making cooperation beneficial to acheive their goal of survival and well-being. So it's in the interest of the individual to engage in behaviors and actions like trust, reciprocity and mutual well being that help acheive said goal and avoid behaviours and actions that affect the stability of the group and harms it.

Depending on environmental pressures like say predation, food scarcity, disease, competition, or limited resources, different behaviours become more or less advantageous. Which is why, diff social species evolved diff strategies that best suited their circumstances. Same with humans, we simply built on evolutionary foundations with higher reasoning shaped further by culture . That is exactly why good and bad are highly suhjjective across diff cultures and throughout history even in the so called wisdom of the past which we selectively and arbitrarily apply today. No wisdom of the past needed and to call it wisdom is laughable.

judewrites:
Yes it is and so many people are there already.

I'm sure you don't want to go there, it's a bad place to be.

Oh! Im really scared, scared of the mental delusions people like you spout with confidence. It's hilarious though.

Hypocrisy is a prerequisite to being a xtain, muslims are same. So no surprises.

judewrites:
Some atheist scientists believed in God after hearing cries of suffering deep deep in the ground after hours of digging.

You may scoff at Christianity now but a time is coming when you will sincerely wish you didn't.

🤣🤣 So hell is in the earth's core, your level of ignorance is very tall. Nor be only "atheist scientists" 😄

Stanbaba30:
That's obviously why your the devil abi?

The devil exists?! News to me.

Stanbaba30:
So I'm driving my own car, and also preaching Jesus to people in my car, then you say you want to arrest me? Mcheew...! May all those proposing this be visited by the anger of the Lord in Jesus mighty name Amen. Una no see security challenges to checkmate, na this one una kind go. Nde iberibe.. 😏😡

Abeg quiet, the anger of your lord cant visit terrorists and kidnappers wiping out his worshippers like flies, it's this one he wants to rise for.

Drsnives:
So if I stand up to preach inside campus shuttle I'll pay 50k

Yup, not everyone wants to listen to lousy noise in the name of "preaching".

keemsleek:
Guess ur name means lucifer.....lol you didn't see where I said even the royal family practice it. Marriage btw cousins are accepted in some tribe. Issac married from his mother side and so did Jacob. Get thee behind me...... every tribe with his on culture.

Who knew an omnipotent deity could get limited to using incest which he hates cause he's limited by human context that is culture. What a laughably weak response.

EmekaBlue:
Lucifer is that you? 😃

Imagination to reality abi.

EmekaBlue:
We are all relatives if really checked. We all came through the first man and first woman according to the bible

A silly story that is factually impossible with just little common sense.

keemsleek:
This means you don't read your bible. First of all Noah didn't have daughters he had sons and they were all married. Has for Adam and Eve, Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters, not just Cain, Abel, and Seth (Genesis 5:4).
Cain and Seth likely married their sisters or nieces, since they were among the first generations of humans.
At that early stage, according to the biblical account, marriages between close relatives were necessary to populate the earth. Much later, the Mosaic Law prohibited such marriages (Leviticus 18).


I think Islam allow marriages btw cousins that's why royal houses keep the royal blood clean. You hear then marrying thier cousins. Even the British, french, Spanish royal houses does it.

So an omnipotent and omniscient god saw no other way to populate the earth except using lots of incest on two separate instances, something he later labelled a sin and claims to hate. Yet he is omnipotent and omniscient, cool story.

ReacherSaidNoth:
Typical Christian, when their hypocrisy and irrational views are exposed, they engage in personal insults.

If your silly Noah story is real (spoiler, it is not), then cousin fcking is what populated the earth

Not necessarily true if you look at the concept of a family tree and the story, it was progressive. So before cousin fucking could walk, sibling fucking had to run.

chopnaira:
God bless mama. Thanking God for your freedom and that of the kids.

Meanwhile

Lol, thank which god? The one that was asleep when they were getting kidnapped and beaten or is the the one that allowed these 2 and some of the rescuers to die at the hands of the kidnappers.l? Better thank the military that risked and lost their lives instead of some absentee deitty from the middle east. Or better still thank him for the mental trauma they will live with for the rest of their lives.

Mandesz:
There's always a way that seems right to a man but they end in destruction.
Paul wasn't a disciples and wasn't only the one that wrote the bible. According to Paul, divine revelation through personal visions, the shared oral traditions of early believers, and direct conversations with key eyewitnesses like Peter and James made him wrote the 7 chapters.
Jesus promised the holy spirit. Do u even know d power of this holy spirit that Jesus said shall abide in those disciples?
It's to guide them, remind them of the things that happened when they were with Jesus.
Religion not for everyone.
The lost ones can never be found, only the missing might return. It takes the holy spirit presence for anyone not to ask questions..
That's why in Matt 19:14 Jesus taught about children coming to him because their type is kingdom of God. Their type here means those that aren't like u i.e "the too wise", "too sensible". In reality they are fools.

There's a reason you keep praying for sense and it constantly eludes you. It's simply cause of concentrated indoctrination beyond repair, which affects critical thinking. That's why you have no clue about the context of the book u base yiur life on and have to default to regurgitation. Guess irony works in mysterious ways.

Mandesz:
How were u expecting someone now to witness incidents of over 2000 yrs ago. Among the witnesses were the disciples of Jesus and they wrote many chapters in the bible. I pray one day sense will locate u.

I don't know why religious people love irony like this. If the prayer for sense works, it would have first given you the sense to research the history of the religion you base ur life upon, to know not a single of the so called disciples wrote anything save for Paul who wasn't a witness. But why educate urself, when you can pray for sense, receive none and then go on to gloat in loud ignorance.

Well there are 2 different routes to arrive at reasons for the whys, one through biblical gibberish and the other through logical reasoning. Firstly, according to the bible in Exodus 4:11 - "The LORD said to him, 'Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the LORD?'" So it could be said the "all loving" god who made them that way has simply decided to keep them that way and not grant healing to them for some obscure reason, even though he claims to love them so much. So less of the pastor's fault here - even though he might be a con artist - but as I said, gibberish.

Moving on through the second route. If you notice throughout history in general and that of christainity you'd notice an interesting pattern about supernatural claims - it thrives in gaps of our understanding of reality and retreats with the speed of light from falsifiability. There are 3 gaps in particular where these claims love to thrive - Gaps in our knowledge, gaps in our means to document and collect evidence and lastly the falsification gap. In the old testament you'd notice the grandiosity of the supernatural claims - fortified city walls crumbling from just singing, water flooding the whole planet, the frigging sun standing still, pillars of ice and fire appearing fron nowhere, whole cities wiped out by hail and fire from above etc.

Very very bold claims that somehow thrived because of gaps in our knowledge as we were largely ignorant of objective reality, we had no way to investigate or document stuff until much much later and no way to test if a claim is true or false. So anything goes, by the time you get to the new testament you'd notice the grandiosity of the supernatural claims are a bit toned down, save for the thousands of dead people waltzing into the city to meet their loved ones, which conveniently no contemporary thought to document, much less verify and falsify for something so bizzare.

Forward to today and we've gained so much knowledge. To the extent every single mystery attributed to the supernatural that bordered on our ignorance - that we've been able to gain knowledge about and investigate - has usually been demonstrated to be nothing supernatural, leaving the supernatural currently with a failure rate of a 100%. Now if a mysterious event happens in a remote village in China, I would have my hands on documented evidence within an hr of said event, while living in a separate corner of the world. And the mysterious event would be easily investigated as we have the tech and then falsified to know if it's this or that. Take those fake "Alien fossils" found in Mexico for example.

This makes it way more difficult than before for your pastors and proponents of supernatural claims to make them with ease, ergo you have a reduction in the number of claims and the grandiosity of the claims. So now these claims retreat to the small remaining gaps of unfalsifiablility and thrive at the borders of ambiguity, where the claims are indistinguishable from sheer luck, random coincidence or mere probability. You won't be seeing any pastors raising the dead anytime soon nor amputees regaining limbs, but you'd see those in wheel chairs 'walking' again. Halleluyah.

Either the Pastor is confused or in denial if that's what he's pinning as values for a christain nation. They're basically just taking inspiration from values and a precedent set by their "holy" bible and "unchanging" god Yhwh - who is supposedly also Jesus - who commanded, oversaw genocides aplenty & literally gave instructions on owning slaves while never condemning it. Their god sets the precedent, the followers follow, pastor's just in denial cause the supposed "divine" is just a distinction without a difference.

The tower of Babel is not only not factual in any way shape or form, it's also not historical as well. It's an etiolgical myth serving as a polemic to Babylonian culture and was even "borrowed" from stories from surrounding ANE cultures. Then again even looKing at it as a story that it is, imagine a deity so insecure that he'd disrupt progress been made by what he created.

Also this is after initially getting scared they would be like him. Meanwhile he's meant to be "Omnipotent" and "Omnibenevolent" but instead here he is getting scared of his creation and always demanding subservience. The Yhwh character is so much of a clown, in his "Omniscience" he forgot it would be impossible to build up to space and has now relocated his abode now space stations and satellites are up there.

Zionmdde:
So plasmids were chemically synthesized too? You are here to tell me no biological components were used in the so called synthesis?

When you are done throwing insults you tell me what plasmid is doing there

Sha thank your God for NL bots, am not really that nice

"So plasmids were chemically synthesized too? You are here to tell me no biological components were used in the so called synthesis?"

WTF!!! Go school you nor gree 😄 Why are you embarrassing urself like this, the fact everything is just flying past between your ears is hilarious. How did you say it again, it's not my job to educate you.

Zionmdde:
Am not here to educate on how AI works and has access to millions of data you can't as a human research

Meanwhile l wonder what e Coli is doing in the so called pure chemical synthesis of life

Keep your insults going though

Last I checked you need to have something upstairs before educating someone else, so... "Am not".
And for like the 3rd time my prediction's right - nuance missed. Which is why you had to ask this intelligent question - "Meanwhile l wonder what e Coli is doing in the so called pure chemical synthesis of life" - when even the plasmids in my ss are not even purely non - biological. This is what happens when you don't read, you can't get it, not even with a million degrees and AI. Again not my fault you get insulted by facts lol.

Zionmdde:
I guess u are the one that needs to learn how to extract what has been done and what has not been done from an article

Now you can continue with your insult

When you learn how to read instead of relying on AI that hallucinates let me know, the fact you could not even read and had to give it to AI to help you out, like wtf. To the extent your AI assesment is going against your initial claim "Wake me when they create life using chemical elements and compounds" and you proudly posted it as evidence. Told you the paper would be too much for your comprehension. How many degrees do you have again? Watch the nuance fly right past lol.

favour32:
You are really a slowpoke.

Said Favour32 to his mother.

Zionmdde:
When you are done showing your character you tell me how they used something that has no life in it to synthesize life
I need those chemical components of their invention

Actually your insults describes everything about your level of exposure

It's not my fault you didn't go to school or even if you did, that it had no effect, neither is your comprehension issue. When you're done displaying your ignorance, I'd suggest you pick up something called a book, educate urself and learn how to read. It'll do you a load of good and prevent further displays like this where you get insulted by facts. I'll quote someone else on this thread.

favour32:
This page is for intellectuals. Not for those that their brains have been emptied by a failed government.

jaephoenix:
Whats your CoD callsign? I play sometimes

Used to be lucifyre but been a while I played last.

Zionmdde:
Oga extract how they synthesized the life and stop speaking grammar

Oh great, so it's the first option, you obviously can't read which is why simple sentences appear as complicated "grammar". No shit you're embarassing urself.

"Since these cells were pieced together from scratch, and all the molecular parts were crafted in the lab, scientists can tinker with the system and switch components in and out."

"By putting together systems inspired by different labs — DNA replication; feeder liposomes; and swarming, division-inducing proteins — and then optimizing them to work together, Adamala’s team showed that it is possible to induce the chemical world to form a biological one in the lab."

Got any other dumb quips?

Zionmdde:
Cells have life in them
Wake me when they create life using chemical elements and compounds

No offense but do you know how to read? If you know how to, did you read the post? I seriously doubt that cause you wouldn't be making the statements above.

chigator2:
I am waiting for them to create an Ant without using anything from an Ant then I will take anti-creationist serious.

Don't worry you won't have to wait as long as the return of Jesus 😄