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Ubenedictus:
So who was Jesus talking to when he said 'i'll give u d keys of the kingdom'?

Syncan:
hahahah, see how desperate you are in trying to twist facts by using "little stone" for aramaic kephas, which language translation is that? You used Rock for 1cor.10:4, yet that verse used petros in greek, which is where Peter is derived from as well. Note, both Matt.16:18 and 1cor10:4 are talking of rock, both in aramaic and greek. Don't try to diminish Peter by using "little stone", if Jesus wants to call him little stone, he would have used "evna".

When Jesus talked about his temple, did scripture not tell you what it meant? "but he spoke of the temple of his body" Jn.2:21. Where did it explain to you that he wasn't talking about Peter here? His whole speech is just one line of speech addressed to same person he started with, Simon he called Rock, on the rock Simon He will build his church, to Simon he will give the keys. This same Simon in Jn.21:27 he told "Feed my sheep". It isn't your business to speculate why He chose Simon, what you need to accept is that He chose Simon, and said those things to him. Shikena.

Syncan:
really? So when Jesus said that to the apostle, his name was peter (rock) abi. What then is the import of calling him "Rock", only to probably be distracted into talking about a physical rock elsewhere.

martooski:
For your mind you just explain the scripture. I thought you have got a better sermon..... Msche

Ubenedictus:
there is no comma in d original hebrew or greek.

luckyCO:
Am still waiting for your email.
Thanks

easymancfc:
with due respect to you sir, context is key.... Jesus was giving Peter Authority and not putting him down in any way. ..
Mat 16: 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you BIND on earth shall be BOUND in heaven, and whatever you LOOSE on earth SHALL BE LOOSED in heaven.”
That confession he made is the rock. It is the revealation of whom Jesus is. It was that revelation triggered that statement

He said all this in Response to Peter's confession... not just the Rock and church statement but the authority of the "KEYS TO THE KINGDOM" TO "BIND AND LOOSE...
this fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah 22: 20 In that day I will call my servant Eli′akim the son of Hilki′ah, 21 and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. 22 And I will place on his shoulder the KEY of the house of DAVID; HE SHALL OPEN, and NONE SHALL SHUT; and he SHALL SHUT, and NONE SHALL OPEN.

the Greek word σοι or soi means you in the singular form meaning he was talking to Peter alone... The Church is the new Kingdom, Jesus is the King of this Kingdom... so just like in the Davidic Kingdom of old... the king (David) had a steward Shebna, who because of his sins was replaced by Eliakim, So is Peter Made the Steward of Jesus's Kingdom, the Church....

So indeed Jesus was not putting Peter down because it will not fit the context of praising his answer, putting him down then giving him authority... Instead it's follows that JESUS PRAISED HIS ANSWER, ELEVATED HIM AND GAVE HIM AUTHORITY..

I didnt say in any way that Christ was putting peter down. I was trying to interprete the same scripture. Note Christ must glorified not peter

Final note... yes he opened the door and we all came in.. but he also has power to shut it... not just open... and that Power didn't die with Peter just like Judas Is cariot's "office" didn't die with him and he had to be succeeded see acts 1:20-26, so also did all the apostles who died their office was taken by others to ensure continuity and authority in the Church....
Read the early Church Fathers like Eusebius, Tertullian and Origen for more on how things happened in the early Church...

luckyCO:
I sent you email with this heading (My Ref 002)
Please interpret and get back to me.
Thanks

martooski:
its not a gospel

its the church founded by Christ with Apostle Peter his leader

"And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades shall not overpower it." (Matt. 16:18).

SmartchoicesNG:
Contact kingreign. If he still works on Orobo Camry.

TayeJiboluwa:
No.

TayeJiboluwa:
A lot of people experience such dreams. Is is a dream that releases struggling into someones life. It means backwardness in the spirit. such things happen as a result of parental/ancestral sins.

Tembzozo:
@highyo

I must say you are very harsh and judgemental. By posting those women's pictures you have condemned them and others worldwide. The ones you say they are Mary may be the hardcore satanists and virsa versa. Judging is not yours. Please find a better way of spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ without plainly condemning people to hell. You yourself may think you are perfect and right with the Lord only to find out there is something you are doing unknowingly that is sinful to God's eyes. Please spread the word of God and let the Holy Spirit do the conviction.

adesqr:
@OP, your message is good, I love it but is not necessary you put up those pictures to portray your point. IMO

jumpandpas:
You also should read my first post very well. I concluded by saying that safety is of the Lord. And know what that means. Even the Almighty God you are worshiping, some sees you as worshiping idol.

Safety is if the Lord.

jumpandpas:
Everything I said there, you neglect righteousness. Oya go back and read again. Your mention shouldn't exclude that righteousness I said there.
I read through your write-up my dear, even though righteousness is not your making. However, you refused to see my line of thought. I bet you if you check well devil has succeeded in that direction.

Talking about idol, God's ways are not our ways. If it was in this generation that moses used his staff to part the red sea, you would have also called him an idol worshiper.

jumpandpas:
It is not true only that the movement of God is too much in that Church even armed robbers and ritualists are scared sighting you in Chosen Aprons and if they confront you and you declare that you are a Chosen, they become weak and let you go. But remain faithful (righteousness) and don't be a compromising Chosen. Safety is of the Lord.

Ubenedictus:
Dont be suprised that when u reach there u will find only 1 church, d one Jesus established i.e d Catholic Church.

Raphael81:
We must work together for christian unity

Ubenedictus:
Actually catholicism was not involved in killing d true followers of christ that is the work of protestants and pagans.

btoks:
It's a shame that you feel the Catholic Church has bad roots and killed the true followers of Jesus!
You still dont think that there is difference Catholic Church and Roman Catholic Church. Catholic Church is universal body of Christ but Roman Catholic is a version of Catholic Church controlled by rome. You hear anglican say they are Catholic. Catholic Church was formed formed in Isreal while Roman Cath was formed in Rome as world power then

So Jesus lied when he said the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church? Who are the true followers of Christ that were killed by the CC?
The church here is knowledge of whom Christ is. Devil cant prevail against it since Jesus has overcome the world. It does not mean roman system.

If you're referring to the 12th century, Heresy was a crime against the state ( much like terrorism these days) and this had to be dealt with. Granted, there were excesses on some occasions by sinners - this doesn't mean there wasnt one church and one faith.
History is there. One of the most secrete and guarded place in the world is roman cath library. One cardinal was sanctioned because he revealed one.

If you're referring to the early christians, are you aware that it was members of the early church ( which was called Catholic ) that was persecuted by the Roman government?
Yes,it was Cath Church that was killed by Rome and later rome mixed with Catholic Church that came ftom isreal to form Roman Cath Church, persecution stopped because devil has gotten what he wants.

So you believe in the bible that was canonised by this same church with bad roots?!!
God used Egypt to save Jesus Christ but it because they have the security,but doest it mean spiritually egypt is holy?

You said the list of marvellous things done by the CC could have been by someone else. The fact is they were done by the CC - nothing else happened so no speculation is required.
ok
The CC isn't saying it's superior, it goes without saying that only one church was established by Jesus. Every other church broke away from it.until this day that church still wields the authority it has always
had
You dont need to echo your priest,Jesus didnt form any church but he established the way of life to God. That way of life is Universal n application amongst nations, and that way of has recieved another mixture and renamed to rcc, anglican,lutheran,pentecostal, sabath etc. In the begining we have only one assembly of belivers and her constitution is bible,Headquater is Heaven,GO is Holy Ghost,Head is Christ,workers there are equal,full of love and Holy ghost and they are apostles,prophets,evangelist,pastor and teacher to recieve instructions from her head and execute to maintain order amongst the believers
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Douglaufuoma:
which of the doctrine mistake are you talking about. which of the denomination lay more emphasis on repentance like catholic. I love your mode of communication and your matured responses I must confess. enlightenment me more on the wrong doctrine which the Anglicans has not talk on before and now they are begging to come back, or the one others saw and they ran away just for them to melt back. which of them are you talking of

Douglaufuoma:
go through your work again and try to read in between the lines. who lay down the calendar of Christianity, how do you know Easter is arounder the Conner or Christmas is coming, who founded the roman Catholic church, why is it that they have the highest worshippers despite so much critics and blackmailing from people like you?. my dear don't allow hatred blind your sense of reasoning