@op, thanks. But how are backbiting, tale bearing, slander and gossiping different from one another. They are all the same to me .

Molayan:

u guys better watch ur tongue. So dat U dont put curse on ur heads

what is dis wan saying?

Falsification of CVs is another action of zero integrity that Christians practice. Know several of them that do this and consider it a norm. God help us!

Thank you, Drummaboy. Loved d way u clarified these questions. benefitted immensely. Would like to thank others who have contibuted time, efforts and Megabytes to clarify these tithes issues. I'm finally free, even my husband cos I took time to explain it all to him. Such a big relief after 15years of legalism. Thanks y'all. God bless u plenty.

This is outright funny. Love this!

uaphorism:

I still however believe that there is a God, The First Cause, The Creator of everything seen and unseen..

THIS is really what you should hold on to. Forget about those things your limited mortal mind cannot comprehend.

Double194:

E be like say U dey mad. Thunder fire that ur hand wey U take type dat rubbish. U dey try compare Man U vs Man City or Madrid vs Barca to BBA and GUS abii??. Infact ur head no correct.

Bros, take am easy now. Everybody is entitled to his or her opinion.

God's blessings aren't limited to cars, fine clothes, houses, jewelries and things that are quantifiable. They are much more than that so how do you know that a lot of people don't receive God's benefits? Even your topic is confusing?

Michaellegend: 1 samuel 16:7.. But d lord said to him pay no attention to how tall and handsome he is. I do not jugde as people jugde. They look at outward appearance, but i look at d heart

How is this twisted?

It's like you didn't understand your pastor's message. Righteousness is a gift ( Romans 5: 17) given to ALL born again Christians. It means you are in right standing with since God is now your father. It has nothing to do with walking out your salvation (phillipians 2: 12) in order not to miss heaven.

I'll attempt to answer your questions. Before Judas betrayed Jesus, he was already a thief. He was sinning wilfully and enjoying it. All through Jesus teachings, he sat there, heard him and was unmoved. He had a responsibility to resist and repent, but his conscious was dead.
The bible says when sin has conceived, it bringeth forth death. Judas was responsible for his own actions.

2. People who are born with a mental defect are like babies and little kids. They will not be judged. I don't know about the grownups sha.

@OP, you so hit the nail on the head. Churches have become so worldly these days, extremely materialistic and self-centred. It is now everyman to himself, God for all. What a pity!!!

Goshen360: My brother, the ONLY way you can understand the Lord's teaching in Matthew to John is to put on the lens of the revealed messages to the holy Apostles, using the understanding and knowledge of the revealed to interpret what Christ himself said because Christ said it and he alone revealed what he said.

Meaning?

Most parents who are expecting to fend for just one child but suddenly gets THREE extra will be caught off guard finacially especially in this our weak economy. Point is, let's be sympathetic, the parents didn't bargain for 4.

Joagbaje:

It depends . The fake money thing is wrong. Except you're paying it back to whoever gave you. But other issues . Are relative . It depends . Some people demand Money for their service . Even though the money may be illegal it's a matter of faith and choice . It requires wisdom.
For example a police man accuse you falsely and demand . Money, but you're in a hurry for a service ,function or a programme that is of urgency. Wisdom demands you settle him and go. But you can still fight for your right ,you will win eventually except that . You would have missed your appointment. So it depends on the situation. And individual faith. Jesus paid illegal money .



Matthew 17:24-27
And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? . . . When Peter were come to the house, Jesus saith unto him. . . . lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money:that take, and give unto them for me and thee.


Matthew 5:25
Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

He has said it all!

Which gospel? The gospel of money?

[quote author=Richiy]If for nothing, the fact that I would never again rigorously and vigorously wash back of pots and the fact that I would never have to worry about the thread of the stove or put my hand in the kerosene tank makes gas my number one choice. [/quote

Babe, I feel u. Can't tell you how many times I've had my fingers burnt trying to pull up a shrunken thread. And again, stove parts need replacement every now and then. Takes money, time, energy and fine fingernails thank God I'm now liberated.

Nice! And to think you got this from church. Lucky ya! Mine is always encouraging us all the time. Pretty tiring if you ask me. Sometimes one desires the meat of the word. anyway, waiting for Goshen for a more extensive study as promised. Thanks.

To be sincere,in my private moments, I've often questioned the benefits of tithing- I do my part why dosen't God do his? the devourer devors cos I've experienced several job losses through no fault of mine, still waiting for the overwheming blessings from the windows of heaven etc etc. Afterwards, because I don't want to seem ungrateful to God for his goodness and mercies, I shrug it off and move on. So you can imagine reading all these scriptures and learning new things on tithing previously unknown before. I say a big weight has been taken off me.
While I've not completely stopped tithing,I'm still studying on my own and intend to drop it like a red hot chilli pepper the moment I'm 100 percent convinced. The moment I can explain myself explicitly to anyone that seeks clarification about this. Thanks.

Don't just pray to God to help you, pray against the devil's hindrances using scriptures to back up your right. Bible has identified Satan as the thief who comes tp steal, kill and destroy. After you have done this, meditate on Gods promises so that you will have faith to receive. Then thank God continously knowing that all things will work together for your good. It is well!

He that is without sin should cast the first stone. The best he could have done was suspend them after the wedding for some weeks even that can be considered extreme in some quarters. The pastor is playing God of the Old covenant IMO. Tell your friend to find another church Jare or do a fine registry or trad. Wedding.Gosh! What manner of self-righteous pastor!

Its better you say the whole story or you don't say anything at all.

@ OP, sorry about the whole thing. Thank God for his faithfulness, he stood by you through it all. Find another church to attend on Sundays but limit your involvement so that you won't be hurt again.

Well, I don't know about Christ Embassy but my sister married Last year in another popular penticostal church and she paid N10,000 for according to her, generator, certificate and contingencies. I wasn't pleased because the Bride and Groom were both long standing members who were conducting the wedding by faith. Seeing that they were not that bouyant, the church was placing more financial burden on them instead of helping out.IMO

It is because pastor get caught up 'ministering' to the congregation that they forget their home front. For instance, they forget to pray for their kids but only pray with them during devotions. Meanwhile, they will pray for others. Some of them don't even play with their children and these children will silently rebel. They are unfriendly to them and don't correct them in love but they are all smiles on the pulpit. Unlike the Father of faith, Abraham whom God commended for teaching his kids in the way of the Lord.

Why give yourselves to temptations. How can two pple in love live together without being tempted to touch, are they brother and sister?

Themannareserve org. there r hundreds of materials for u to download.

This section to me is Ok.It all depends on how you use it. I'm mindful of the threads I open and read. I usually ignore aethiest threads or any threads that belittle Jesus etc. Even if I open one and I see where the discussion is heading to. I simply close it and move over to the next. There are other posts. Some are edifying and some are revealing. For instance, I followed the e-grace convention to the end. And I was blessed. The section is not bad at all.

Choosing a life partner for marriage is not as complicated as some people make it seem. The main characters to watch for are love and compatibility.
Use wisdom, be observant, pray and make your choice, believing God for the best.

That is what I'm saying. Why are u bothered about your dream? In the past, do your dreams come to pass? If not ignore it. Dreams could be misleading and besides they can come from any source- you, God and devil. God will not give you a dream that cause chaos and confusion to u. Pray and cancel the dream and go ahead in life with a clear mind.

I'd ask u this question: how have you been praying for other issues of your life? Isn't it suprising that when it comes to the issue of marriage, we want God to speak to us via new channels?
Op, u can't desperately rush God to give you an answer. You have to use the same prayer and communication channels that has helped you resolve other issues of your life.
One last word, peace is a sign. When u have peace u'll know that's a go-ahead signal. It is well!

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