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truthman2012:
Good. That is why muslims have nothing to say.

But will muslims continue to worship allahh after they have discovered is an idol?

dagr8:
Kai, there is nothing as sweet to hear and to know than the finished work on the cross. Christ died for us, so that we can never ever be condemned again(forgiven forever). On the cross, on the cross, be my glory ever .

plaetton:
So, according to you,
The 115 killed at TB Joshua's church were unbelievers?
And all those 10,000 killed in the Philippines last year were also unbelievers?
And the victims of boko haram church bombings were also unbelievers?
And 30 million European Christians killed by the bubonic plague were unbelievers?

plaetton:
And I asked you before, does god only protect believers?
Simple yes or no would suffice.

RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212: 8:08pm

if i tell you the likes of isis, boko haram, etc, taliban, alqaidah, are political and they kill muslims, too, are we okay since the loss of life is not a concern of yours as long as you see christianity on top? you are what i call by hook or crook; the process/methodology doesn't matter as long as you achieve your object kind of person. Allah says in Surah Baqarah verse 256 that there is no compulsion in religion. lets take it to mean no compulsion to Islam. the time of its revelation was when the jews of madina were told to leave instead of being killed since the chief of hypocrites ubaid ibn salun claimed to be their ally. the arab tribes in madina saw the jews before hijra as better people so when they will pray to Allah to give them sons which they didn't have before, they dedicate the sons to the care of the jew tribe and the children though arab by blood, but grows up as jews in every respect including religion, language and culture. when they were being sacked out of madina, this was before khaibah, the arabs now muslims wanted their 'jewish children' back instead of the sons leaving madina with their jewish brethren.

Allah revealed the verse mentioned to let the muslims parents know that you can force them out of judaism into islam since you actually created the 'jewry' in them, except they revert into islam from their heart, remaining behind like those who reverted at the point or before being expelled.

your argument is always slanted and it could have been acceptable except that the Book of God is Quran and this is my stand; Allah is my Lord, Islam is my religion, Quran is the absolute word of God and the prophet [SA] is absolutely a prophet.

theAtheist101:
What was the colour of his teeth?

Ovacoma:
you are a wise man. The blind don't see the Truth.

plaetton:
Baloney, baloney.
So you don't how god supposedly works his stuff?

There is no need for conjectures here.
The simple evident truth is that dispute megatons of prayer powers directed at the skies everyday, when natural disasters strike, there is no god to prevent or at the least , wrap people in protective bubble that save's them from injuries and death.

If god is helpless from natural disasters, as you just admitted, then why do people place faith in god to protect them from such sudden disasters in the first place ?

wordcat:
Saudi Arabia, UAE including myself never accepted your jesus as the personal lord and saviour yet we still lives.

RoyPCain:
@malvisguy212; malvisguy212: 4:18pm

unfortunately isis, boko haram, etc are muslims in the same way the spanish inquisitors were christianis, same way hitler, mussollini were christians. each those who are in their religion say they are by name, only.


but your christian brethren tweeting are better that hitler, while they behave like him except using the gun and gas chamber.

i am different from isis, boko haraam and all my effort is measure, implementing by this type of dialogue with you to open your mind, but never will stump on you if you down, thinking this is the best time to hit you with religious blows.

RoyPCain:
@by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 11:08am

abroad' what country? please tell us how muslims will take advantage of the misfortune of people to speak Islam to them. doing Islam [Goodness] is different. doing Islam you have to do even when you are in normal dealing of inter-human relationship.

i guess you are talking about the speakers corner? hope you realize that thame is intact and nothing happened to marble arch?

plaetton:
You're kidding again, right?

So, you are saying that god dishes out or allows natural disasters to happen to only nonreligious nations?

How about the storm that killed 10,000 in the phillipines last year?
Were they nonbelievers as well?

Or how about the collapse of a church building full of believers that crushed 115 Christians in Lagos ?

Adamsdelrio:
As a believer, I have desired to experience the divine power of the Holy Spirit. Is there anything I must do get it?

plaetton:
It's funny how non of those evangelists ever wondered why God is missing in action at the most critical time when he is needed to prevent disaster.

Abuamam:
Sighhh. What is the difference between do not approach and keep away! And where did you get the claim that he was even fasting? Lol.

I understand that you really NEED Islam to be wrong so that you can continue to be convinced of the righteousness of your chosen profession of tithe collection, but you REALLY need to be less obssessed. It is making you irrational. Move on bro.

Alternatively, learn Arabic, so you can bash Muslims without making a fool of yourself. Any 10year old Arabic-speaking child can point out the meaning of this verse, and I truly mean that.

truthman2012:
Muhammad violated the Qur’anic rule of not to have sex with women when in ihram
Here is the Qur’anic verse on the purity state in a mosque:
“Observe Hajj in the prescribed month; no sexual intercourse, misconduct and argument during the Hajj session
For Hajj are the months well known. If any one undertakes that duty therein, Let there be no obscenity, nor wickedness, nor wrangling in the Hajj. And whatever good ye do, (be sure) Allah knoweth it. And take a provision (With you) for the journey, but the best of provisions is right conduct. So fear Me, o ye that are wise.
Qur'an 2:197
“You can have sex with wives only at nights of fasting time; wives are garments; do not approach wife while in retreat (ihram) in a mosque...”
Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but He turned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are Limits (set by) Allah: Approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His Signs to men: that they may learn self-restraint.
Qur'an 2:187
Even a hadith in Sunaan Abu Dawud confirms the stipulation of the Qur’an. This hadith says:
“A pilgrim must not marry and give someone in marriage in the sacred state (while wearing ihram)”
Nubaih b. Wahb, brother of Banu Abd al-Dar said: Umar b. Ubaid Allah sent someone to Aban b. Uthman b. Affan, asking him (to participate in the marriage ceremony). Aban in those days was the chief of pilgrims, and both were in the sacred state (wearing ihram). I want to give the daughter of Shaibah b. Jubair to Talhah b. Umar in marriage. I wish that you may attend it. Aban refused and said: I heard my father Uthman b. Affan narrating a tradition from the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: A pilgrim may not marry and give someone in marriage in the sacred state (while wearing ihram).
Abu Dawud 10:1837
But Muhammad did not have much regard for the Qur’an or even to his own words when it came to marrying women and having sex with them. So, when he went to Mecca, to perform the Hajj, and a proposal of marriage was offered to him, he quickly accepted the offer and married the woman even though he was in sacred state wearing ihram.
Here is the hadith from Sunaan Abu Dawud:
Muhammad married Maimunah while he was in the sacred state wearing ihra:
Ibn Abbas said: The Prophet (may peace be upon him) married Maimunah while he was in the sacred state (wearing ihram).
Abu Dawud 10:1840

Abuamam:
Sighhh. What is the difference between do not approach and keep away! And where did you get the claim that he was even fasting? Lol.

I understand that you really NEED Islam to be wrong so that you can continue to be convinced of the righteousness of your chosen profession of tithe collection, but you REALLY need to be less obssessed. It is making you irrational. Move on bro.

Alternatively, learn Arabic, so you can bash Muslims without making a fool of yourself. Any 10year old Arabic-speaking child can point out the meaning of this verse, and I truly mean that.

Abuamam:
AN 'ATTEMPT' AT A 'SHORT ANSWER' FOR MALVISGUY212.

For the nth time (for the sake of the stone deaf and those who are extremely hard of understanding); 'Approach' in the verse means to 'have sexual intercourse with'; as per the explanations and practical examples of the prophet (saw), and all the companions; and as explained in practically every single book of Quran exegesis in existence from the 7th century CE, as well as acceptable usage of Arabic vocabulary. It is a polite way of referring to having intimate relations; just as the biblical "he KNEW his wife" ; repeated on dozens of occasions, does not mean that he met his wife to discuss her CV; but from the context, obviously means sexual intercourse.

Trust me, you did not just discover an 'error' that billions of fluent Arabic-speaking Islamic scholars and laity have been missing for close to 15 centuries.

Now I expect not to see the phrase "none of you guys even attempt it"; 3 comments further on. But that is just my wishful thinking.

Empiree:
He actually derailed his own thread by bringing in new set of topics entirely after you and royp knocked him off. I know he is only trying to discredit islam. He has a long way to go doing that.

EzioAuditore:
Proof? And did it talk about embryology, rain formation, black holes, and other scientific facts ? Smh

EzioAuditore:
You are free to confirm at any reputable website or book, but the earth is still expanding. Proving Allahs claim 1400 years ago, that it is he who expands the earth.

omokab:
congrat!Likewise many have converted to islam.To be sincere with am saying it with fact, nobody will change because of this write up.If to talk of religion that is full of mistake christainity is number one.Are u talking of religion that the bible you are carrying is different to other version.What luke said about jesus is not what john will say,likewise st.matthew.What you find in old testament is not the same with what you find in new testament as if your God changes.Is it the same bible that told you that your God was not happy when he saw what he created?Talking of killing please do a little reseach about killing in bible,you will be ashamed of yourself.you are reading social network regularly you will be able to know most of the atrocity committed by your pastors like killing church member or iNnocent to get crowd,involving in arm robbery etc but you will not see bad thing on this.If to talk of religion that will be accepted by GOD I swear is islam.Islam teach us how to communicate to GOD and what our stand should stand for.Islam teach us way of life such as your relationship with neighbours,who to marry,how to marry,your responsibilities as a husband and as a wife,parent responsibilities on child and child responsibilities on parent etc.I thank God that I am a muslim and Insha Allah I will die as a muslim together with my family.Amin

johnydon22:
You were talking about being convinced of ur belief and i cited another example of people being convinced of their belief. . . so its all Faith. . i may believe a flying pink unicorn and be fully convinced of it's existence it still doesnt make it true.

I ask again, since you are likening the existence of ur parents to the existence of ur god.. why then dont you need faith to be believe ur parents exist.. ??

johnydon22:
Just like the muslims are fully convinced of what they believe with their minds right?

malvisguy212:
who are the true muslims? Thoes who act the way muhammed acts or thoes who acts because they are loving in nature ?

johnydon22:
Oh really? You are the one that wanted to liken the existence of a god (you believe with faith) with the existence of your parents. . . Did you purposely wanted to sound dumb or what?

theAtheist101:
Wrong! Your parents are vivid, but god is nothing. Prove me wrong by vexing your parents first, and later your god to see who would react.

johnydon22:
Do you need faith to believe ur parents exists?

theAtheist101:
I thought I said don't worry. There's no point asking you any question. You should don't that for yourself. Question your own thoughts! All the best.

theAtheist101:
Don't worry. I can see you are an ardent believer of god. I hope he gives you the mansion your want in his kingdom.