₦airaland Forum

johnydon22:
I think you need to correct that scientific blunder bro. . . dating with scientific refrence, the universe is stipulated to have begun 13.8billion years ago...

Anatomically modern
humans evolved from archaic Homo sapiens in the Middle Paleolithic ,
about 200,000 years ago... earliest hominids are dated to have been around like 5million years ago...

Invention of writing started 6,000years ago by sumerian.. (cuneiform) and that was when record keeping started. . cave paintings have been found to date back 35-50 thousand years ago...

anyway carry on with your thread...

i.e : Its just scientific corrections not johnydon's assertions.

johnydon22:
actually you went against the biblical belief when you asserted the earth was 4.7billion years old as science stipulated... Nobody believes evolution, its just a scientific study and is still on going. . You don't believe studies, you learn them and study the datas provided..

plaetton:
Lol.
Fa fa fa foul.

You are flat wrong sir.
Homo sapiens have walked the earth for at least 250,000 years.

What you meant to say is that we don't know much of uur history beyond the last 6,000 yrs.

truthman2012:
Weldone bro. God bless you.

plaetton:
Lol.
Again, let me ask, does working on yourself and perfecting yourself make you a good and better Christian, or does going out with a lamp to seek out sinners make you a bona fide Christian?

I am atheist because there exists no iota of evidence to sustain a belief in the existence of god.
Scientistific knowledge, so far, shows me that the universe neither needed nor ever needs a god.
As for anger and frustration.
Yes, I am indeed angry that despite 200yrs of Christianity in Nigeria, every aspect, all of the positive aspects of African identity has been eroded by this toxic cancer of the brain called Christianity.
I am angry and frustrated that despite our very low contribution to scientific and material progress, I am still on NL arguing with educated supposedly educated Nigerians that ,
1. Human life started and evolved from Africa.
2. No black African can be a child of Abraham.
3, The earth is 4.7 billion years old, not 6,000 yrs old.
4. Man is the master of his destiny, and as such, does not need to rely on the imagined machinations of any god in the sky or in the earth.
5. If you want to go to the heavens, get off your praying butt and build yourself a spaceship.

6 .Scientific persuits and knowledge is our most reliable arbiter of our reality.

Ishilove:
I don't know who is more distressed between you and your jeans.

plaetton:
My point is still ( and pls pay attention), who's job is it to usurp god's prerogative of judgement?

I am not questioning gods judgement, I am questioning yours, who is busy highlighting the sins of others rather than your own.

Are you so free from sin that you are now competent to judge and cleanse others of their sins?
This is the simple question I am asking here.

Pr0ton:
The NT is regarded, both by the writers and Christians, as the word of God. That is, everthing written in the NT is inspired by God. So therefore if anything apparently and incontrovertibly invalidates their claim they are wrong and the NT is not God's word but man's handiwork.

Unfortunately for Christian theists there are lot of rebuttals to their claim, one of which is below.

There is a lot about the book of Enoch, but for issues concerning Christians and my post I'm going to post this summary from Wikipedia:

"Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest or significance, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as non-canonical or non-inspired."

The catch is the book of Enoch is not the word of God, and thus the main reason for its non-existence in the Christian Bible. But what has this got to do with the invalidity of Christians' claims about the NT? It is the author of Jude, one of the writers of the NT. He made a "non-canonical or non-inspired" book his reference when writing to Christians about God's coming judgement.

"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him." Jude 1:14.

He apparently quotes from Enoch 1:9, "the non-canonical or non-inspired book":

"And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His Saints To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

Since the Book of Enoch is not the word of God and is found in the NT, then the NT can't be the word of God but man's handiwork.

plaetton:
Bullshyt.
My first question , which you and the other guy ignored, is, what makes you competent to see and judge who is a sinner, considering the staggering amounts of personal sins that YOU have to deal with and purge YOURSELF from?

If god hates sin, then god is fully qualified and competent to probe deep inside everyone's soul to adjudge wisely and judiciously.
Don't you think so?

Ifeann:
Nice write up. I disagree with the gay life style but I don't hate gays.

Its disturbing to me but so is fornication, adultery, bribery. Some christians have such an irrational hate for gays to a point their isn't much difference between them and muslims who kill gays.

Anyway gud write up, christians should welcome gays with love(stand against gay marriage at the same) and hope they pick the gospel message and renounce "gayism", and fight it, same for people who practise sexual immoralities like paedophilia, adultery, beastality etc .

By the way, drinking isn't a sin, excess drinking is.

plaetton:
But who made you a judge over the pupported sins of others?
What about the lies you tell, the envy, the lusts deep inside your mind, the greed, selfishness, etc etc , sins that are also part of your daily life? Who judges you?

What makes you competent to judge another?
Have you completely and forever removed the log in thine own eyes before noticing and pointing at the spec in another's eye?

Christians seem to miss the great import of this message of Jesus.
The message is this.
Self redemption and self purification are very long, difficult and lonely journeys. The individual, the Christian who walks this path should have no time whatsoever to look over his or her should to notice the sins of another.
Simple.

Calling another a sinner is nothing but hypocrisy of the highest.
No living human being is competent to judge another before god.

God should be the only and ultimate judge of human character, traits and sins.

plaetton:
So when did you become god?

plaetton:
What makes you competent to judge, let alone hate any character ?

plaetton:
Probably the first time I am saying bravo for work well done.

POPdecorator:
We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people,in order to make (things) clear to them. Now God leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom.(The Noble Quran, 14:4)"

tink abt d bold well







And, indeed We have sent Messengers before you (O Muhammad(P)); of some of them We have related to you their story and of some We have not related to you their story, and it was not given to any Messenger that he should bring a sign except by the Leave of Allah. So, when comes the Commandment of Allah, the matter will be decided with truth, and the followers of falsehood will then be lost.(Qur'ân 40:78)
So, we decided to have a look at the issue of Messengers sent to various tribes and nations and taking the advice of the Qur'ânSo travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth).
The content in this post is a discovery by serendipity. The information sometimes came from lazy browsing through the books on social anthropology and sometimes from serious research. As it was mentioned before the Islamic belief is that every nation on the earth was sent a Prophet for their guidance. As the time passed by corruption was introduced in the religion and instead of worshopping one true God, false dieties were worshipped along with it. The best example would be of Arabia before the advent of Prophet Muhammad(P). They worshipped idols like al-Uzza along with Allah.
The material below is an attempt to show that how different tribes in different parts of the world had Monotheism, i.e., worship of one true God. But along the true God some subservient gods are also worshipped in some cases.

POPdecorator:
tanx for that link
there are over 1000 prophect sent to the surface earth if quran is to talks abt there life the quran will big like something else and we won't be able to read it
even in nigeria the prophect was sent to us but when they gone we did other thing as some man did in buybull after moses went for comandment

POPdecorator:
tanx for that link
there are over 1000 prophect sent to the surface earth if quran is to talks abt there life the quran will big like something else and we won't be able to read it
even in nigeria the prophect was sent to us but when they gone we did other thing as some man did in buybull after moses went for comandment

POPdecorator:
my GOD which ALLAH(SWA) told ibrahim not to look back at that present time, is not for everrrrrr mr man use ur sense or u need upgrading?

POPdecorator:
give me straigth answer
did any prophect in bible do pilgrimage to jerusalem?



?was moses a messanger to egypt hw was he born in egypt?

ARAB were without gaurdiance before muhammed(SAW) as africa were without gaurdiance be4 muhammed(SAW)


ur paragraph answer


why were african also neglected after moses(AS)

POPdecorator:
that verses is one of the reason i like islam pls i need another one



for me to die as a poor muslim better than richer xtian

thou shall not die except being a muslim

POPdecorator:
give me straigth answer
did any prophect in bible do pilgrimage to jerusalem?



?was moses a messanger to egypt hw was he born in egypt?

ARAB were without gaurdiance before muhammed(SAW) as africa were without gaurdiance be4 muhammed(SAW)


ur paragraph answer


why were african also neglected after moses(AS)

plaetton:
^^^
Yet, the irony is that almost all theists have deep doubts that god exists. They all hope that he does.
This is why they are usually eager and desperate in their daily supplications.

Anomnity:
Good but incomplete message.
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Love your gay neighbour but hate the gay sin.It is very wrong to love your gay neighbour in a way that makes him feel comfortable in the gay sin.In a way that makes the gay sin pure and sinless.This is where America and the west is getting it wrong.There's a very thin line & thats why this mistake.
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The proper way is to love your gay neighbour but politely condemn the gay sin.Point the gays to repentance.Make them understand that by that sin as like in every other sin they are stabbing and hurting the Lord that died for them