Covert1:
NAF Fighter Pilot Low & Fast



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI3H2aHhapw

Wahala for who no want peace

Nigeria �� has become the first African country to launch a sophisticated helicopter full flight level D Simulator.

It's the first and only of its kind in the whole of Africa, is located at Caverton’s new training centre at the Murtala Muhammad International Airport

Nigeria �� has become the first African country to launch a sophisticated helicopter full flight level D Simulator.

It's the first and only of its kind in the whole of Africa, is located at Caverton’s new training centre at the Murtala Muhammad International Airport

jl115:
Yet when we say what's wrong with X nation's defence force it always turns in to a d1ck measuring contest, that's why we stopped.... However I'll be more than happy to oblige the above if you want

Nice one

I saw this picture on WhatsApp, please what's that on the back of the truck?

jl115:
nobody is blinded by patriotism.. We are fully aware of the short comings of the SANDF... Which thankfully unlike other countries I shan't mentioned is funding related and not doctrine related... The problem is your sheer obsession and jealously wrt SA and the need to highlight all that is negative about the SANDF which 1 isn't uncommon in 1ste world militaries and 2 at least we have excellent transparency and we are able to see every single problem inflicting our military

,if we wanted to we could've inundated this thread with negative news and stories about the NDF on a daily basis, but we choose not to but rather focus on the positives.... Now get over your obsession and focus on your own military

Don't sound like that besides the name of this trend gives you an idea that issues concerning any African nation's security or her military can be discussed here

Let's just talk about what's going wrong in AFRICA military POWERS and their solutions

Fynline:


Watch from 3.06


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Na6ndtfBb0

Nigerian airforce really used cluster bombs in Liberia

lebuhsi:


my bro, you just came here to troll. enjoy your 20 seconds of fame.
You're in a lot of pain, Nigeria and Nigerians are most certainly not the cause of that pain. see a psychologist, my bro.

All this tantrums you're throwing, nobody even get time to follow you talk, Oya move along.

Na Truth you talk, anybody wey answer this man go just dey waste him time

NASENI to start ASSEMBLING INDONESIAN MADE MILITARY EQUIPMENTS..

The National Agency for Science and Engineering Infrastructure (NASENI) has commenced the manufacture of Armoured Personeel Carriers (APC),in order to curb insecurity in the country.



The agency will also be fabricating Mine- Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAP) for the military.

Executive Vice Chairman/Chief Executive (EVC/CE) NASENI, Prof. Mohammed Haruna said the agency engineers will be collaborating with the Nigerian Machine Tools Limited Osogbo in the manufacturing.

He explained that they intend to start by assembling the technology and then proceeded to replacing the parts by producing local components.



Haruna said this yesterday in Abuja while receiving a delegation of the Chief of Transformation and Innovation of the Nigerian Army, Maj. Gen Charles Ofoche and a delegation from the University of Abuja, led by its Vice Chancellor Prof. AbdulRasheed Na’Allah.

He said, “The Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) and the Mine- Resistant Ambuse Protected Vehicles (MRAP). We are doing the technology to domesticate and be able to produce it locally in Nigeria. The good thing is that our engineers can produce it and we are collaborating with the private sector, the Nigerian Machine Tools Limited Osogbo.

“The process is long but how we try to make it easier is we start assembling and gradually start replacing the parts by producing local components, which is why it is done conventionally, we try to commence by bringing the complete knock-down (CKD) components, producing them and assembling locally and God willing you will see the first version this year.”

In his response Maj. Gen Charles Ofoche said the essence of the collaboration is to give protection to the fighting troops which is exactly what the Army seeks.


He added, “My department deals with Research and Development (R&D) which is important to the Nigerian Army because we can’t just be consumers of products, we can’t keep buying and when the technology goes out of fashion, we dump it and buy a new one. In the Army, we don’t just execute wars but ensure peace.”

Vice Chancellor, Uni. Prof. Na’Allah said the University signed an Memorandum of understanding (MOU) with NASENI in 2014 for the establishment of a centre for reverse engineering and innovation but the University did not explore the opportunity.

He said they intend to reintroduce the MOU for the establishment of the center which will be located within the University but managed by the collaborative efforts of NASENI and the institution.

Na’Allah said the focus of the center will be for the manufacturing of furnaces, energy and power equipment, miscellaneous components and manufacturing of devices and systems.

This military technology is from Indonesia, last week Indonesia embassador visited NASENI and discuss about assembly Indonesia made warplanes, APC and MRAPs and others.

Torture2020:
every time I look at what Nigeria has become, I thank God. You know why? I really don't know if God put sense into the heads of Nigerians or perhaps saw dust or sand that he put inside the heads of these people called Nigerians.

Look at the poverty level in your country. This is a country that produces 2 million barrels of crude oil daily, plus trillions of gas. the poverty capital of the world. For God's sake, yo can't even produce ordinary electricity for your impoverished people. Look around you. Kidnapping has become the number one industry in that shiithole.

Today, every Nigerian is running away from that zoo because the country has become useless to itself and its citizens. Come to Ghana and see. Nigerians are all over the place, as if some masquerade is chasing them from their country. Nigerians are everywhere, in the smallest villages in Ghana. They are every where.

By the way, how many Nigerians are gainfully employed i that shiithole, outside robers, kidnappers and pr0stitutes? 15 million nigerian children are out of school as we speak, while children in Ghana are getting free education, free uniform and free food.

Ordinary boko haram, nigeria soldiers can't even fight. and you want to fight armies in other countries? nigeria don pafuka. the whole world is laughing at what nigeria has become today. poverty capital, kidnap capital, stvpidity capital.

As I said, you nigerian can have ecowas and shove up it up your smelly azzes. Th rest of west africa don't need ecowas. you are a bunch of arrogant, ill-informed bunch of fuelish mudder fuggerx. Nobody gives a fvck about nigeria. nigeria is big joke

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The whole of West Africa will experience this insecurity I assure you, insecurity is moving at an alarming rate from the Sahel region to other regions. Seven years ago if you tell an Burkina Faso citizen that one day there will be terrorist in his country he will say no it's not possible, we have seen peaceful states like Benin republic training it's forces how to fight terrorist we have even seen Ghana do the same. So don't worry sir it will surely show up in Ghana if the situation is not brought under control.

And you called them ordinary Boko Haram, just pray no be iswap or Boko Haram na show up for Ghana. Just imagine if Nigerian wants to invade Ghana how many months or years do you think the Ghanaian army can survive I don't even think it will be up to a year before Accra and the whole of Ghana fall. But this ordinary Boko Haram lasted for eleven years and still counting, you should be praying for your country sir.

ONLY GOD CAN SAVE GHANA WHEN THE TIME COMES

When the time really comes I'm sure the Ghanaian Government will beg Nigeria to come and open a permanent military base in Ghana.

Torture2020:
Rubbishly nonsense. can anyone take nigerians serious?

Ghana pulled its troops from Liberia? Were Ghanaian troops meant to stay in Liberia permanently? Do you even know why Ghana sent troops to Liberia? Let me educate you. Every country's number duty is to its citizens.

At the time Ghana sent troops to Liberia, Ghanaians in Liberia were trapped in that country. Western countries had evacuated all their citizens, leaving only Africans behind. The Ghana government (being a caring and responsible government) tried to evacuate Ghanaians but could not. It was then that it dawned on President Rawlings that the situation was more serious than he thought. and that was the only reason Ghanaian troops were sent to that country. after evacuating Ghanaians from Liberia, Ghana's mission was accomplished. Countries like Nigeria which were looking for glory were free to go ahead.

By the way, do you know how long Ghanaians troops were in Liberia? Thousands of Ghanaian troops were in Liberia and Sierra Leone for many years, supported and funded by the Ghana Government. Today, when you nigerian talk about ecomog it is as if only nigerian troops served in ecomog. bunch of hipocrites.

Is it the duty of Ghanaian troops to protect Nigerian soldiers?

history can come back and hunt who? You dey craze

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Here you also lied, Ghana did not send troops to Sierra Leone don't forget after Ghana's failure Nigeria had some glorious days which led to Charles Taylor negotiating with the UN, after some time Charles Taylor wanted to get back at it neighbor Sierra Leone who assisted Nigeria by providing an airport where the Nigerian airforc used as logistics airbase against the Liberia rebel warlord. So Charles send some of his fighter into Sierra Leone which formed another rebel warlord called corporal foday sankoh which Nigeria also made deployment to that country. It was not documented anywhere that Ghana who was afraid in Liberia independently sent troops to Sierra Leone. Even if they did it won't be up to hundred which would be under ECOMOG which Nigeria was at that time paying their salaries

Torture2020:
Rubbishly nonsense. can anyone take nigerians serious?

Ghana pulled its troops from Liberia? Were Ghanaian troops meant to stay in Liberia permanently? Do you even know why Ghana sent troops to Liberia? Let me educate you. Every country's number duty is to its citizens.

At the time Ghana sent troops to Liberia, Ghanaians in Liberia were trapped in that country. Western countries had evacuated all their citizens, leaving only Africans behind. The Ghana government (being a caring and responsible government) tried to evacuate Ghanaians but could not. It was then that it dawned on President Rawlings that the situation was more serious than he thought. and that was the only reason Ghanaian troops were sent to that country. after evacuating Ghanaians from Liberia, Ghana's mission was accomplished. Countries like Nigeria which were looking for glory were free to go ahead.

By the way, do you know how long Ghanaians troops were in Liberia? Thousands of Ghanaian troops were in Liberia and Sierra Leone for many years, supported and funded by the Ghana Government. Today, when you nigerian talk about ecomog it is as if only nigerian troops served in ecomog. bunch of hipocrites.

Is it the duty of Ghanaian troops to protect Nigerian soldiers?

history can come back and hunt who? You dey craze

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You lie sir, please go back to the history book. Ghana deploy it's troops to Liberia under ECOMOG in the intent to intervene and bring peace to the troubled nation, Ghana was the one that came up with the idea and letter saw how insane and dangerous the conflict is and decided to run away using the Nigerian airforc bombing of free town as an excuse to withdraw it's forces, saying that Ghana did not come for violence but for peaceful negotiation. And most times I wonder why there went there with guns in the first place.

If you were really involved in the war as you said you would have known this by now.

Military wise Ghana have nothing to offer in Liberia

NASENI to start ASSEMBLING INDONESIAN MADE MILITARY EQUIPMENTS..

The National Agency for Science and Engineering Infrastructure (NASENI) has commenced the manufacture of Armoured Personeel Carriers (APC),in order to curb insecurity in the country.



The agency will also be fabricating Mine- Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAP) for the military.

Executive Vice Chairman/Chief Executive (EVC/CE) NASENI, Prof. Mohammed Haruna said the agency engineers will be collaborating with the Nigerian Machine Tools Limited Osogbo in the manufacturing.

He explained that they intend to start by assembling the technology and then proceeded to replacing the parts by producing local components.



Haruna said this yesterday in Abuja while receiving a delegation of the Chief of Transformation and Innovation of the Nigerian Army, Maj. Gen Charles Ofoche and a delegation from the University of Abuja, led by its Vice Chancellor Prof. AbdulRasheed Na’Allah.

He said, “The Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) and the Mine- Resistant Ambuse Protected Vehicles (MRAP). We are doing the technology to domesticate and be able to produce it locally in Nigeria. The good thing is that our engineers can produce it and we are collaborating with the private sector, the Nigerian Machine Tools Limited Osogbo.

“The process is long but how we try to make it easier is we start assembling and gradually start replacing the parts by producing local components, which is why it is done conventionally, we try to commence by bringing the complete knock-down (CKD) components, producing them and assembling locally and God willing you will see the first version this year.”

In his response Maj. Gen Charles Ofoche said the essence of the collaboration is to give protection to the fighting troops which is exactly what the Army seeks.


He added, “My department deals with Research and Development (R&D) which is important to the Nigerian Army because we can’t just be consumers of products, we can’t keep buying and when the technology goes out of fashion, we dump it and buy a new one. In the Army, we don’t just execute wars but ensure peace.”

Vice Chancellor, Uni. Prof. Na’Allah said the University signed an Memorandum of understanding (MOU) with NASENI in 2014 for the establishment of a centre for reverse engineering and innovation but the University did not explore the opportunity.

He said they intend to reintroduce the MOU for the establishment of the center which will be located within the University but managed by the collaborative efforts of NASENI and the institution.

Na’Allah said the focus of the center will be for the manufacturing of furnaces, energy and power equipment, miscellaneous components and manufacturing of devices and systems.

This military technology is from Indonesia, last week Indonesia embassador visited NASENI and discuss about assembly Indonesia made warplanes, APC and MRAPs and others.

Torture2020:
You are talking rubbish. Must everything be about Nigeria?
What do you mean Ghana's leadership of ECOWAS under President Nana Akuffo Addo is weak? what kind of nonsense talk is that?

Tell me. what will Nigeria have done if it was chair of ecowas? send nigerian troops to Guinea, Mali and Burkina Faso? Is Ecowas Akuffo Addo's personal property? Ecowas is a voluntary union of countries. Decisions are taken by consensus. The chairman of ecowas does not take decisions and impose it on member countries. Decisions are reached by consensus. every country has one vote. whatever majority countries decide, the chairman will implement.

Ghana lacks the diplomatic finesse, weight, financial and military muscle to make anyone in Mali, Guinea or Burkina Faso pay attention?

You forgot that Ghana led the Ecomog forces that first landed in Monrovia in 1990? Today, nobody even talks about Ghana's contributions in ecowas. it is all about nigeria nigeria nigeria. The same nigeria that undermined Ghanaian Ecomog Force Commander General Quaynor. I was part of the ecomog troops that first landed at the Free port in Monrovia. Immediately the landing was successful, nigeria started scheming to take over from the Ghanaian General. And later they turned around to accuse General Quaynor of being weak. Damn hipocrites.

Nigeria is doing the same thing in Ecowas under Ghana's leadership. Nigeria is working tirelessly to undermine Ghana's leadership of Ecowas. I don't even know what or how countries benefit from this nonsense Ecowas. Left to me, Ghana should even pull out of Ecowas. It is a very useless organisation. Do you know how much Ghana spends on Ecowas? And yet you Nigerians don't even appreciate Ghana's contributions. This is soo annoying.

Let me ask you one question. huh? Is anyone stopping Nigeria from becoming chairman of Ecowas? As a Ghanaian, I will be happy if Ghana is NOT chairman of Ecowas. In fact, I will be happier if Ghana is NOT a member of Ecowas because it is a very useless organisation.

Your president often doesn't even attend ecowas summits in accra. he only attends when it is hosted in Abuja and yet the same man will be junketing all over the world.

You nigerians can take ecowas and shove it up your asses

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I feel so much anger in you sir, but I want to ask a question why did Ghana pull back it's troops from Liberia when it was getting hot, leading to the killing and capture of many nigerian troops?

The truth is that from that withdraw of troops made by Ghana it has shown signs of wickedness and has handed over leadership of ECOWAS to Nigeria, so in time of conflict or difficult times like what ECOWAS is currently experiencing, no country will take Ghana serious.

HISTORY CAN COME BACK AND HUNT YOU

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Makes you wonder where was GFP [/quoti


I think both DICON and Proforce should buy that defense company and make a mandatory technology transfer

jl115:
when was that my bru?..... I think you got me confused with someone else

Also new IFVs, IPVs, SPHs, hydrographic vessels..... Who says we ain't modernizing?

South Africa can't even maintain it's existing military platforms. From grounded Gripen fighter jets to being unable to pay workers.. such a pity

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/denel-pmp-cannot-pay-january-salaries/

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/saaf-gripens-grounded/#

The GFP ranking is fvcked up, I took my time to study the ranking my self and I discovered that the ranking is a child's play, in 2021 GFP said Nigeria have 2,000 armored vehicles now in 2022 GFP said Nigeria have 2,019 armored vehicles and this is not true because the Nigerian army alone received up to 300 armored vehicles not including other forces.. The total number of our active personal has been the same since 2018 while the nigerian army has been recruiting thousands of troops just last year Nigeria army alone recruited 8,000 men in the first six months and another 4,800 past out in November bring the total numbers of troops recruited to 12,800 not including other force and that's one third of the entire south African army.. there are many things that I saw in their 2022 update that makes me believe that Global fire power ranking is a child's play and one of those things are 1: ranking a declining South Africa military ahead of Almighty Algeria


What do you guys think about my investigation?

The GFP ranking is fvcked up, I took my time to study the ranking my self and I discovered that the ranking is a child's play, in 2021 GFP said Nigeria have 2,000 armored vehicles now in 2022 GFP said Nigeria have 2,019 armored vehicles and this is not true because the Nigerian army alone received up to 300 armored vehicles not including other forces.. The total number of our active personal has been the same since 2018 while the nigerian army has been recruiting thousands of troops just last year Nigeria army alone recruited 8,000 men in the first six months and another 4,800 past out in November bring the total numbers of troops recruited to 12,800 not including other force and that's one third of the entire south African army.. there are many things that I saw in their 2022 update that makes me believe that Global fire power ranking is a child's play and one of those things are 1: ranking a declining South Africa military ahead of Almighty Algeria


What do you guys think about my investigation?

Roan77:


Outdated news, next please.

Thank you my brother... I don't know how some people think something that happened months and some weeks ago they want it to remain the same.
Ok the Governor came out publicly to say there are terrorist in some communities in his state and some people here expect the situation to be the same today, the military is active and the top military brace will look into the governor's statement and then make subsequent deployment of troops to those affected communities..

STOP COMING HERE TO SAY WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW

The way they say things is as if there is no Government in the contry, so you are telling me since this news came out those communities have not seen security personnel's in their community.. ENEMIES of the STATE always happy to hear BAD news

EgusiShankly:


I thought they made another telegram group for themselves..

Why come here again

I no just understand this people at all

This week two different teams from the Nigerian defense headquarter has paid visit to Turkey for military acquisition

Please kabe1 any information on SDB 4&5.. I mean their sizes and is there any picture of their design?

rugged7:

Na your papa be the IPOB terrorist. Bastard.
Useless incompetent , cowardly, untrained Nigerian army.
Na for unarmed civilians they develop courage.
They should go and fight boko haram .
going to 15 years now
They can't even control 1 territory properly in borno.
Boko haram has spread to the North West.
foolish zoo

The funny part is that you live in the zoo
Now which animal should I call you? I better go with goat because you are being hunted in your own mother land, it's very funny you know.. then I think to you bihari is the lion of the zoo that makes the Nigerian army the lioness which is now going after the goats in the south east.

SuperSixSeven:
Sattelite images show at least 4 Tucanos based in Maiduguri

In this image I can see the j7, are the back from China?

Lami1996:

We also took delivery of over 100 Bigfoot Mrap lastnight ,I have the video.

Please drop the video, I really want to watch it

Now I understand that the Nigerian army is trying to stop the use of Toyota trucks in the front line. First ordered about 52 MRAPs from DICON still awaiting delivery and with the 60 isotrex legion MRAPs that has been delivered, the 60 APC that was recently delivered and now receiving 100 Bigfoot MRAP together with 100 Dongfeng armored vehicles and don't forget that the army has recently placed order for the new light weight MRAPs proforcce is developing. Now I think not just the Nigerian airforce and navy are doing smart procurements the army is also trying to keep up. God bless President buhari for giving us this new service chiefs especially the chief of defense staff Gen. Lucky Irabor

Roan77:


Truth to be told, the tigrayan force will not fare better against Nigeria military, using conventional tactics, they will be smacked.
Ask the Chadian troops when they invaded Borno, they learned a lesson they will never forget in their lives, we nearly took over their capital, only to be stopped by president Shagari, this is Chadian troops that humiliated Libya, but couldn't gain the same success against Nigeria.

Even if the Ethiopian airforce is not active enough to participate in the conflict don't the Ethiopian army have artillery systems? Now they say the tigrayan forces are coming to the capital with a define movement and this movement can be predicted, why not lineup about 20 to 30 155mm artillery systems and send the fear of God to them, using drones to cordinate the operation. The truth must be told the Ethiopian armed forces right now is a disgrace to their HISTORY.

Roan77:


What are you talking about? This is very confusing, I'm lost here at this point.
I'm telling you about the conventional capabilities of Nigeria military, and you are saying something different entirely.
How are the Chadian troops faring against Boko Haram/ISWAP? They are getting hit too by the terrorists, this is a country that also lost it Chief in command/president in the hand of rebels, stop overeating Chad, they are nothing without France.
I think you are the inexperienced one here, when it comes to defense, if you can't use historic records as a judgement.

Please don't waste your energy in this matter because it has become clear to me that he knows nothing of what he is saying. A man who says Nigeria invited chadian forces into Nigeria knows nothing about what he is saying.

ArabicBerber:


I'm not even Nigerian; I'm just following the data. Yes; I thought the Ethiopian Armed Forces would have performed better than this. They have some of the most sophisticated equipment in Sub Saharan Africa and used to be rated 2nd to only South Africa. So yes I'm SURPRISED there getting dominated by foot rebels at such a level weaker nations have swept. I don't no much about there maintenance and never commented on it began with.

How the Nigerian Armed Forces is viewed varies depending on who you ask and there motives. Right now there militery performs on the battlefield is outperforming "just about" every other country in sub Saharan Africa. I don't think there special but there clearly more competent than your usual African nation

The fact of the matter is Bokoharam in all there forms have been campaigning in a revelant compacitity since 2009 and they've never made it beyond the North East or Greater Lake Chad Region of West Africa and today there no more than glorified scavangers sensationalized to hell and back thanks to politics. They couldn't even take a state capital.

That's progress.

The Tigrey didn't start seriously campaigning until 2018 and there already pulling up at the National Capital despite Ethiopia being more militarized than Nigeria at the start of there conflict.

That's decline.

You can't argue with the facts starring you dead in the face.

I said I'm pretty sure the Ethiopian soldiers are doing the best they can with what there given and that this incompetence is more than likely do to the top officials. So there wasn't even disrespect.

You are blessed with knowledge my brother

komekn:


Objectivity requires that you have a non partisan approach to your analysis and be devoid of sentiment and emotive based preference.

You have described the Ethiopian Armed forces as. "SURPRISING INCOMPETENCE"

Someone even mocked the Ethiopian air forces implying they cant even maintain sophisticated SU27 they have. Again emotive prejudiced based assumptions .

If you like try a balance score card approach and look at the Nigerian armed forces.

Do you know how the Nigerian armed forces are viewed both regionally and internationally in general .

Don't just have a self birthed conceited Nigerian based parochial view.

Please which country are you from?
And how is the Nigeria armed forces are being viewed outside Nigeria.



The truth must be told the Ethiopian armed forces lacks the finance and capacity to fight such war. The Ethiopian Government has shown how week it's forces are. And can you show any evidence that the Ethiopian airforce is still competent because I know those su27 are no longer air worthy.

You mentioned the Arsenal of the Ethiopian armed forces and said if Nigeria would have performed better, my answer to that question is go ask Charles Taylor and you will understand that the Nigerian army strives and are successful against such conversational enemy

RiceProducers:


See how useless the SU25s and SU27s are?. I stopped arguing these issues because I found some people were just stuck on some old doctrines of warfare and the 'durability' of soviet equipment. Some guys would even have called the Ethiopian Airforce stronger than Nigeria's because of SU27s.

Hello Ethiopia, sensors are everything. Buy ISR gear. Look for supply lines to the rebels and bomb them. Use special forces creatively.
Converting information from as many sensors as possible into a broad picture of the battle space is the only way to do modern warfare.
You would be able to dodge the flanking moves and the feints. See where the enemy is hiding and determine what his objectives really are.

I don't think the aircrafts are useless, it's just the level of poor maintenance and repair culture of the force and also the su family of jets are expensive to operate due to the twin engines it uses, the fuel cost to fly that aircraft for five hours will be two times higher than that of our JF-17. Such aircrafts can only be used by nation's with large defense budget