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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 2:18pm On Feb 04, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
Well that Saudi crown prince might be the one leading the reformation of Islam even in Iran the women are protesting against the veil law claiming it is a choice,In Tunisia president Beji Caid Essebsi is reforming Tunisia,Same can be said of Jordan and Turkey even if Erdogan is not 100%trust worthy.Qatar and UAE seem to be more moderate.

I don't think reformation would work at all.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 2:17pm On Feb 04, 2018

segunojo866:
you are a joker. Do you think those mentally disturbed muslims can be transform?

I don't think so. I shouldn't even have typed that.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 2:16pm On Feb 04, 2018

segunojo866:
wow. Your belief system is very similar to my. Although a part of me believe in God but i see the Christain and Islamic gods as terrorists. Please can i pm you dear

you wan marry cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 2:11pm On Feb 04, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
You know Islam cannot be abolished that is why there is need for reforms which only the leaders can give.I have heard people say the real Muslims are radicals and all that to me the only solution is reformation of Islam to accommodateand tolerate people of other ideologies and beliefs.People through out history have passed through reformation in one way or the other and as such it can happen in Islam.

At least for the sake of human security, if reformation will work it had better work now and as quickly as possible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 1:50pm On Feb 04, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
So all the violent texts in all religious books should be torn out because that is the only solution.One of the differences between a moderate and extremist is that the moderate is open to changes and realizes that their holy books were written in different times for different purposes and cannot be applied to the modern world.Islamic rulers have a lot of work to do and re-orientate their followers but I don't believe the religion should be kicked out it is a personal thing and their beliefs should not be imposed on people or used to cause chaos.

I, personally, don't like imposing my beliefs on others. You need to understand the as long as Islam is still existing, there will always be radicals by the millions so the solution is to abolish Islam. The moderates(whom I am suspicious of because they lie a lot to cover their quran) will be no where to be found when these radicals strike and wreck havoc. These radicals won't accept to civilise Islam because they see it as the final, timeless and immutable words of Allah (which it actually true according to the quran). Most moderates don't criticise terrorism, they don't openly condemn terrorist groups on live TV when asked, instead they skip the question. Moderate don't take Islam serious, they lie and cover up, they cherry pick and are not honest with the interpretation of the quran. The real Muslims are the radicals themselves. The influence and impact of the radicals are enough to call for the abolition of islam from the human race.

Don't listen to those who say there are efforts to reform and civilise Islam in Islamic countries, they are lying and there is no such thing. Infact islamisation is waxing stronger and there is no change in Islamic countries.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Suicide Unforgivable Sin by Martinez19(m): 1:25pm On Feb 04, 2018

BlueAngel444:
Do you agree with bloodofthelamb that demons cause suicide?

Basically counseling right, instead of the go to deliverances ministries and just casting out devils. Your saying counseling goes along way to stop suicide. What about those who unfortunately didn't get help in time.

If she killed her self out of depression, frustration or unresolved regret unlike the exposure to negative vices you mentioned - alcoholism, pornography, drug abuse etc. what if like Elijah she felt a failure based on the kind of things written in her dairy.

Even writing her own repentance. Suicide atimes affects the family more especially a family that strongly believes their beloved daughter is lost forever in the flames of eternal fire.

How do you use scripture to pacify the mother. Right now telling her how she could have prevented it will not help, assuring her her daughter is save would.

Demons don't cause suicide, demons don't exist. Depression, mental illness, harsh economy and other personal problems are the causes of suicide. Good leaders for better economy, effective awareness on the dangers of drugs, alcohol, marijuana and porn addiction , supportive families, friends and relatives who are good at listening and a good counselling and health care system with professionals that are well trained and listen very well.
Too sad Naija is a shit hole with ignorance, selfishness and arrogance everywhere. The mother needs to accept reality at let go of things she can't change.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 12:36pm On Feb 04, 2018

segunojo866:
Am surprised you didn't mentioned me. I left nairaland for some time now. If reference to religion i see Islam and Christianity as traps for weak minded people

abeg no vex, make I go modify my op. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 12:35pm On Feb 04, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
Well it is like I am an hypocrite for defending Islam as a liberal.I watched on CNN "why they hate us" a documentary about the spread of jihad and radical Islam.I find it hard to believe that prime minister Justin Trudeau would allow it be a crime to talk bad of Islam.Yes a society should be about fairness and Muslim leaders the morderate,secular ones should help stop the radicality and extremism some Muslims posses those ones need re orientation.There are efforts in trying to civilize Islam and make the religion realise that this is the 21st century such works in trying to make the religion more tolerant can be seen in countries like Tunisia and Jordan.You have a point but I still believe that some Muslims are tolerant and respect the constitutions of their host countries without wanting the sharia law.

Moderate Muslims are like moderate christians. Their lifestyle doesn't change the fact that what is written in their holy books are dangerous and ought not to be in a civilised society. Whether we like it or not, not everyone can be hypocritical to cherry pick and become a moderate. There are people, by millions, who read the quran and take it as it and act as it is written. Even most of the moderates who appear to be peaceful don't condemn terrorist act, they are okay with sharia, would like to see Islam take over the world. When invited on television, most moderate when asked if they condemn Hamas, hezbollah, isis etc. skip the question and don't want to talk about it. When Ayaan Hirsi Ali's head was demanded by Muslim fanatic, a lot of moderate blamed Hirsi Ali for "speaking ignorantly against Islam." instead of speaking against the fanatics for being wrong. Have heard of taqiyya?

We will always have those, by the millions, who read the quran and take it as it is. That's a huge problem. You can't civilise something already seen as the final word of Allah, it won't work. When the world trade centres were brought to the ground, where were the so called peaceful majority? majority of the nazis were peaceful but the few radicals killed over 40 million Jews, where were the peaceful majority? Irrelevant! The influence, number and terror of the radicals are enough to call for the abolishment of islam. As long as Islam exist, we will always have those who interprete it honestly - - - - - the radicals.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 12:09pm On Feb 04, 2018

vaxx:
your write up shows you will be bad a judge, since you lack sufficient information on the matter. Islam and Muslim. Islam is the ideology and Muslim is the identity. Islam is the religion; it is the set of beliefs, that contain bunch of ideas in a book. It is not human. Muslims are real, living like you , breathing people, and to me, there is a big difference between criticizing ideas and demonizing human beings. but what you are doing now is called dehumanization. imagine if the same should be state against Atheists. everybody has the right to freedom of believes. be it atheist , pagan and so. and it should be respected. You should also note that Islam is not a religion of peace nor war, it is just a set of believes like every other believes. the scripture of this believe has inspired people to do a lot of charity and social responsibility and it has also inspired people to do the opposite. just like every set of believe. hope you know atheism also fall into this category. there is a different between believes and people. for example, it does not make sense if i say, i have a lot of atheist who are sell-fish, so atheism objective ideology must be ok with a sell-fish life style. so its this believe that needs reformation and not the people(Muslim) just like i also thinks atheism needs reformation.

most of the Muslim migrant are skillful workers , they are so much welcome in EUROPE. i have personally meet a Syria dude who handle five profession together, he is an IT expert , electrician , plumber and some others. the white are known for mono focus profession. these Syrians are paid less but with many duties. EUROPE are not novice to Islam ideology, turkey is in central Europe, therefore Islam and Europe and not new to each other. Spain was once under Islamic caliphate for period more than a century.....

it doesn't change the fact that Islam ought not to be in a civilised society and that it's doctrine are evil. You clearly didn't read my write very well and you are not well informed on things happening in Europe or North America. The skillful Muslims want sharia too just like all Muslims. Do you know how Spain came under an Islamic caliphate? Peacefully or by the sword? Don't spoil my Sunday please.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 11:55am On Feb 04, 2018

Biodun37:
Your islamisation propaganda now extending beyond your jurisdiction. You can see how stupid your comment here portraits you, no one's willing to be so infested. Go on build a nation where your ways & ideas alone will be tolerated. O Y O

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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 11:53am On Feb 04, 2018*

....... continued

... the people don't question what right do these Muslim crackpots have to go on such riots. In such cases, one doesn't need to be well grounded in the quran to know that these immigrants constitute nuisance, they have no right to hold such riots & protests and that their growing number is a threat to the society. Even without being well grounded in the quran, there are certain things being done and said by Muslims (be it the moderate, secular or radical) that should make one start worrying and questioning if Islam is compatible with a civilised human society but they turn a blind eye. The apologist aren't any better, they are fully aware of what Islam entails but willing and gladly choose to cover up and present Islam to be grateful and peaceful religion. Wicked of them!

SOLUTION
The solution is for every human being and every constitution around the world to recognise that every society should be built on truth, free expression, equality and unity. Any belief system or ideology that contradicts these qualities should not be allowed in any society. Education about Islam and decrees to abolish and ban it from the society should be put in place. Deportation of all Muslims whether they claim to be peaceful or not and even those that were Muslims on the date of the decree and later deny being Muslim should not be left out from deportation as it could as well be a taqiyya. Persecution ( I mean it) and ridicule of these beliefs by the government and armed forces would also help.

Persecution? Yes because human stupidity is very dangerous and incorrigible. Stupid people can never ever give up their stupidity, they carry their stupidity to the grave with them. Islam is very dangerous and it's adherents won't be soft on anyone who is at their mercy. It won't be soft or think twice on those at their receiving end. In the 17th century, The Tokugawa shogunate of Japan realised the threat of christianity to Japanese culture, his rulership and how influence it was & the extent of human stupidity hence he did not only ban christianity in Japan but coupled it with persecution of christians in Japan (whether foreigners or indigenous Japanese). Before anyone was persecuted, one was asked to abandon his christian beliefs, failure to comply led to cruel death. For the shogunate to persecute even his own people, he knew the subject of christianity and human stupidity. His, unlike others, wasn't a persecution spawned by bigotry rather it was by insight.

Persecution might seem harsh not until you look at the rot religion descends on humanity and the unnecessary loss of lives and segregation. Even Max Planck, renowned physicist, said the following : "a scientific truth doesn't triumph by convincing opponents and making them see the light, but rather it's opponents die and a new generation grow that is familiar with it. "---- a full grasp of human stupidity and how incorrigible it is. The stupidity of the religious tears the world apart and cost people losses and even their lives ----- it will ruin us all. Stupid folks can even give or be made to give their lives for their stupidity.

On a closing note, people who embrace stupid beliefs had better not mind being called stupid, people who embrace beliefs that divides us had better not mind being segregated or discriminated against (infact I think they should), anyone that embraces a belief system that says those who don't share his beliefs should be killed had better not mind putting his own life at risk of being hunted down and killed. Islam, like all religions and falsehood, is like a criminal that should be shot at first sight.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Suicide Unforgivable Sin by Martinez19(m): 10:20am On Feb 04, 2018

BlueAngel444:
Suicide is a sign that we are ignorant of certain serious issues of life.

That's what your saying right?

Not just that, mental illness as well. Economic corruption and hardship, drug abuse, alcoholism, political and religious dogma, marijuana addiction, porn addiction etc. are issues that are responsible for majority of suicides. If you can remove these issues, you will have no suicides except in cases of the mentally ill.

Stopping someone from suicide is not enough, you have to make sure that the issue that made them contemplate suicide is eradicated or else it's back to square one. Any questions?

Christianity Etc › Muslim Migration: A Demonstration Of Human Wickedness And Stupidity. by Martinez19(op): 10:14am On Feb 04, 2018*

Any observant person who follows the news and stays in Europe or North America will notice that Europe and North America are on the verge of islamisation. What astonishes me is that most Europeans and Americans look on and do nothing as the Muslim immigrants disrespect their culture and constitution. They look on and do nothing as the signs that Islam is dangerous and ought not to be in their community is displayed before them. They do nothing and are still tolerant despite the fact that fact that mass shooting, riots and protests against (very disrespectful) their constitution and culture by these immigrants. Right before their very eyes, Muslims riot and protest that they want the sharia. Even those who don't protest, when interviewed on TV, want sharia law and many won't condemn Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah and other terrorists group and act. What!

What could be the cause of this apparent tomfoolery displayed by most Europeans and Americans who seem not to know what is good and bad for the well being of their society? The first thing that is obvious is that many Europeans and Americans are not well grounded in knowledge of the quran hence they don't know the danger and cunning tactics of islam. They see it as some other belief which they should be tolerant of and one which anyone has the right to hold and abide by in their country and to make matters worse, their bulk of Islamic knowledge is gotten from the so called peaceful/moderate/secular Muslims and Muslim apologists (who in my opinion are great and dangerous liars and hypocrites). Should that be so? I strongly believe that any society should be built on truth, free expression, equality and unity. Any belief system that contradicts these qualities ought not to be in any society.

Another reason for this tomfoolery is plain human stupidity. Having seen many debates and talks about Islam, you will agree with me that human stupidity is a great problem and foe of humanity. It's disasterous not only to the stupid one but to the person he(especially with his group of stupid folks) comes in contact with or having authority over. Human audience, in these debates and talks, readily applaud even the most insensitive and stupid things Muslim apologists say eg. On a particular talk, a man lamented on the dangers of islam, how his criticism has cost him his family and how he receives tons of death threats and he has to wear a bullet proof each day. The Muslim apologist in that particular talk scoffed and told him to stop being a racist and bigot if he doesn't want death threats. Believe me, the apologist's utterance was followed by a thunderous applause by the audience who were virtually all Europeans. Little wonder their society is on the verge of islamisation.

Where does human wickedness come in? On part of the political leaders, liberals, Europeans and Americans and apologists. Many political leaders are aware of the dangers of islam on human rights and life but choose, for whatever reason I can't fathom, to condone Islam and prevent the honest criticism of Islam under the guise of islamophobia. In Canada, it's now against the law to criticise Islam. Even liberals are part of this hypocrisy. Liberals do defend Islam after every terrorist attacks and killings by Muslim crackpots where as they ought to stand up for liberal principles. The people (most of them) are not questioning of Islamic doctrines and despite the disrespectful riots and protest of Muslims ( in which they the burn the country's flag, say horrible things against the constitution, culture and democracy of the country they are foreigners in, call for the implementation of the sharia law, demand killing of particular individuals for supposed blasphemy, burn and destroy properties, endanger lives of people that pass by), the people don't ask question of what right do these Muslim crackpots have to go on such riots and protest.

........ to be continued

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Underestimate The Power Of Prayer? by Martinez19(m): 8:06am On Feb 04, 2018

Firstly, pray is stressful and christians, being the hypocrites that they are, know that prayer can't do shit and they don't depend on God when shit hit the fan in life.

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Christianity Etc › Re: We Are All Victims! by Martinez19(m): 8:02am On Feb 04, 2018

See what brain rot descends on people....... satanism believed in at this stage of the 21st century? undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Probably The Reason Your Prayer Has Not Been Answered. by Martinez19(m): 1:47am On Feb 04, 2018

There is one thing you should know about the universe - - - - - - it's laws are NEVER suspended, not for me, you or anybody. The idea that you can suspend nature's laws by muttering utter nonsense to an imaginary being is a laughable and unserious one.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Suicide Unforgivable Sin by Martinez19(m): 7:57pm On Feb 03, 2018

Suicide is not a sin rather I see it as a sign that certain issues of life are not paid attention to or there are serious issues we are ignorant of.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist On Nairaland Pls Welcome Me by Martinez19(m): 10:08pm On Feb 02, 2018

Kingmeme, can share with us the series of events that led to your atheism? wink

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist On Nairaland Pls Welcome Me by Martinez19(m): 9:49pm On Feb 02, 2018

Welcome to atheism. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 6:57pm On Feb 02, 2018

MrPresident1:
The book of Job is a parable, and it shows the nature of God and His relationship with man.

Job is a code name, it is not the name of an actual individual. Job is the elect of Israel who descended into hell because of the unrighteousness of the people. Because he is part of them, he partook out of their punishment.

satan is one with God, he does not act in isolation to the will of God, this is where most religious people get it, they think that God and satan are word and opposite, this is not true, satan does as he is commanded.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 4:19pm On Feb 02, 2018

DeSepiero:
Who wrote the book of Job?

I don't know but most people say Moses.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 4:12pm On Feb 02, 2018

MrPresident1:
Beg me very well, say please daddy

oya daddy please embarassed

Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 4:04pm On Feb 02, 2018

MrPresident1:
You dinor call me so awinor ahnssa yhu

oya answer nah, grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 2:54pm On Feb 02, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
Abi I still study the bible and there are a lot of questions I ask bible scholars like myself and I always get dumb replies.One said I am studying it with an openmind and doubt.

lol. Really? Is open mindedness and skepticism now a crime?

Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 2:51pm On Feb 02, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
Let me ask you this question during the great flood giants were killed so why was goliath a giant still alive I asked this question and I got the dumbest answer let the holy spirit guide you.

if you look deep, those that claim to read the bible with the Holy Spirit's guidance, you will find out that they don't read differently from any body. It's all emotional woo woo.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 2:49pm On Feb 02, 2018

Emmanystone:
You are insolent. Your parents failed. Wow.

my parents failed? Yes they did and so did your parents in the aspect of indoctrinating both of us. I am free but you not. When it comes to my manners, they didn't fail.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 2:45pm On Feb 02, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
This was what I noticed when reading Job so the devil and God are friends.That it is God who gave Satan authority to do what he did to Job made me ask questions but we the Christians would say let the holy spirit guide you and don't use logic when dealing with the word of God.

The abandonment of logic and asking questions is the fortification of any scam.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 2:40pm On Feb 02, 2018

Emmanystone:
You don't have any need for those lessons.

I asked a question, answer or keep shut!

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Christianity Etc › My Christian Folks, Answer This Please? by Martinez19(op): 1:57pm On Feb 02, 2018

What lessons can be derived from the book of Job? grin

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, darkchild64, Faxole undecided

, bennyann wink

, adepeter2027, Catfishbilly, Epositive and theists in the house.

Health › Re: South African Man Living With HIV For 19 Years Tells His Story by Martinez19(m): 8:54pm On Feb 01, 2018

francescainnoce:
Such a brave lad. We can only pray for Gods courage to carry you on. Courage to be brave at all times and to be above everything, a productive human.

Don't you christians sense your hypocrisy when talking? God should give him courage to carry on? How about God should heal him? Hian!

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