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Stephaustin:
Post this in "The medical students and aspirants thread". I think it'll enhance a quicker reply.

bloodofthelamb:
Religion will leave you fustrated. You will probably end it by becoming an "atheist" or through "suicide"...

Religion is slavery, while CHRIST is freedom.

Himmler:
Hell fire

wirinet:
You are talking from a position of ignorance. People don't choose to let depression take control of their life, depression is a medical condition that just happens. It is a mental disease like any other disease and needs to be treated at a proper hospital, and it has nothing to do with how rich you are. Depression afflicts the rich and the poor, the young and the old, the theist and the atheist. In fact depression can be hereditary.

Gggg102:
how can we be sure of that?

afterall God saw all he created was good before the fall

Gggg102:
so Yahweh just hits the redo button anytime something goes wrong.

would we still be 'humans' if he does that?
what type of life will that be?
what happens to freewill?

Gggg102:
you know this could justify many of God's other killings.

maybe those innocent souls that God wiped out would have been more hitlers. no one knows.
the people that die during disasters could be devils.


I was saw a picture on the internet were someone held a sign saying "God killed your child so he wouldn't become an atheist"
do you think arguments like these should be justified since one can also say God killed x so that x will not become evil?

LadyPresh1:
I'll train my kids, be alive to see them grow. He said I won't survive it out there. He's not my God and I have him to prove wrong. I wish him well too.

Please I would prefer a pm, thanks.

Moderators in charge help me please.
cc:
Lalasticlala
Mynd44
Ishilove
MissyB3

hopefulLandlord:
On a side note, I'm of the opinion that we atheists/non theists should stop playing the Christian game by referring to Yahweh as God, call him Yahweh straight or "Your god" or "Christian god" or "Bible god" and force Christians to be on the defensive so they don't have to play the bait and switch game of "arguing for a god" then pretend they're "arguing for Yahweh", when we keep using "God" as "their god" we are making the game easier for them to play

I know its difficult at first to start but I've actually mastered it now and I know all non theists can do the same

Gggg102:
even if you knew baby Hitler would have been evil, would you have killed him? and even if you would, would it be easy?

that's what I'm trying to figure out
is there any way God could have dealt with the rebellion without it being a loss?
as I'm seeing it now, there was no good option to choose from.
like between the devil and the deep blue sea

Gggg102:
well what I'm thinking is that God should have punished Lucifer from the beginning.
but somehow it doesn't sound right to me. after all Lucifer had not done anything yet. wouldn't it be like killing baby Hitler if God had punished him before he did anything?

also I'm thinking if God had thrown Lucifer into hell immediately, it would only increase his followers. it would make God a dictator and destroy the concept of free will.

Gggg102:
Lucifer: God is incompetent. I am a better leader than him.

1/3 of angels: Lucifer is right, we should make him our Lord.

loyal angel: God! Lucifer is rebelling against you!

God: Michael! prepare for battle!

(battle ensues Lucifer lost and was cast to earth. )

God: he claims to be better than I am, let's see how well he does.

(God allows Satan to roam around and establish his kingdom so that Satan may try to beat God, so when Satan fails he will be punished for all eternity. )


well, the problem of this illustration is that, man who was innocent by that time became entangled in this experience. not only did it bring trouble into the world, it is also causing billions of people to burn in hell for eternity for a battle they were not involved in.

atheists argue that this makes no sense as God could have punished Lucifer immediately he rebelled.

but I tried to think of that alternative and it doesn't seem to work.

if God had punished Lucifer immediately, it would have given more credibility to him. as it will show God is afraid of Lucifer. this won't look good as it will only increase his followers.
(think of it in the same light of Nigeria vs Biafra. Nigeria tried to suppress Biafra in the beginning but it only made the movement stronger)


is there any other way this situation could
have turned out?

wellmax:
Pot calling ketle black.
You started with a insult, but to me that's nothing.

Why should I address such falsehood and misinformation.

History recorded that Jesus did live at a time.
The Quran agrees to his existence
The Bible foretold his coming, gave a clear and provable account of His life on earth.
Many other religion recognise Jesus.

You may not believe Him as Lord, Saviour and God.

But to completely deny His existence is both folly and self deception.

If it suit your sentiments, go on.
One day you will see the truth, I pray it will not be too late for you.

petra1:
angels appear according to mans understanding. horses ,chariots etc .thats the development of that time. angels do appear in jeans today

johnydon22:
You clearly have no idea the definition of those words



Why?

because sex is what a man does to a woman or what two consenting adults decide to do to each other?

You have a very gross absurd and convoluted view of life, it is no surprise how you came up with this nonsensical opinion or reasons as you call them.



Nope this is all on you.



If this is your experience with sex then please do one of these:

*Change your partners
*Medical check up
*Lubes
*Try to key into the whole thing and not see it as doing the man a favour. be part of it and you might just enjoy it as you should



Then work for your needs or are you going to pay him for his needs? or he doesnt or isnt allowed to have any?

Oh please...

if you don't have a job and this is how you carter for you needs then it still nullifies your plea to be exempted from the P word class

Again define prostitute?



Yeah like girls don't discuss their sexual encounters and even dick size amongst peers. WTF is wrong with these entitled girls?

At this point i am already battling hard to hold my peace and not use an M word



No. i expect you'd pay me



The bible and Quran condemns fornication and then you recommend they pay after it? condemned both biblically and oloshilically by demanding payment for a mutual act that is not a business agreement.

Mother of God!!!



Which planet is this girl from?

Obviously not earth



This is not a reason, this is more like a statement of choice.. I wonder what it is doing on the list. you ran out of reasons and then went like "i'd never do this"

how is this even important to the premise of your argument?



Nope far from it. There is no such a thing as real men and only sex starved men or men without much options patronize sex workers.



Pay her and treat her with respect in one sentence.

at this point i cannot hold it anymore, you are Mor_on....

1. respect is earned not installed by default in a vagina
2. Paying for a service entitles the seller to no further requirements (If you receive payment for your service, what other thing do you think you deserve from the buyer?)
3. You are a catastrophe to men and women relationship..
4. bag of contradiction.

joyandfaith:
Did Jesus Really Exist?
HE WAS neither rich nor powerful. He did not even have a home that he could call his own. Yet his teachings have influenced millions. Did Jesus Christ really exist? What do both modern and ancient authorities say?
Michael Grant, a historian and an expert on ancient classical civilization, noted: “If we apply to the New Testament, as we should, the same sort of criteria as we should apply to other ancient writings containing historical material, we can no more reject Jesus’ existence than we can reject the existence of a mass of pagan personages whose reality as historical figures is never questioned.”
Rudolf Bultmann, a professor of New Testament studies, stated: “The doubt as to whether Jesus really existed is unfounded and not worth refutation. No sane person can doubt that Jesus stands as founder behind the historical movement whose first distinct stage is represented by the oldest Palestinian community [of Christians].”
Will Durant, a historian, writer, and philosopher, wrote: “That a few simple men [the Gospel writers] should in one generation have invented so powerful and appealing a personality, so lofty an ethic and so inspiring a vision of human brotherhood, would be a miracle far more incredible than any recorded in the Gospels.”
Albert Einstein, a German-born Jewish physicist, asserted: “I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene.” When asked if he viewed Jesus as a historical person, he responded: “Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.”
“No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus.”—Albert Einstein
WHAT DOES HISTORY REVEAL?
The most detailed record of Jesus’ life and ministry is recorded in the Bible accounts known as the Gospels—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John—named after the men who wrote them. In addition, a number of early non-Christian sources name him.
TACITUS
(c. 56-120 C.E., or Common Era) Tacitus is considered to be one of the greatest of the ancient Roman historians. His Annals deal with the Roman Empire from 14 C.E. to 68 C.E. (Jesus died in 33 C.E.) Tacitus wrote that when a great fire devastated Rome in 64 C.E., Emperor Nero was considered responsible. But Tacitus wrote that Nero accused the Christians in order to “scotch the rumour.” Then Tacitus said: “Christus, the founder of the name [Christian], had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus.”—Annals, XV, 44.
SUETONIUS
(c. 69–a. 122 C.E.) In his Lives of the Caesars, this Roman historian recorded events during the reigns of the first 11 Roman emperors. The section on Claudius refers to turmoil among the Jews in Rome that was likely caused by disputes over Jesus. ( Acts 18:2 ) Suetonius wrote: “Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus [Christus], he [Claudius] expelled them from Rome.” ( The Deified Claudius, XXV, 4) Although wrongly accusing Jesus of creating disturbances, Suetonius did not doubt his existence.
PLINY THE YOUNGER
(c. 61-113 C.E.) This Roman author and administrator in Bithynia (modern Turkey) wrote to Roman Emperor Trajan about how to deal with the Christians in that province. Pliny said that he tried to force Christians to recant, executing any who refused to do so. He explained: “Those who . . . repeated after me an invocation to the [pagan] Gods, and offered adoration, with wine and frankincense, to your image . . . and who finally cursed Christ . . . , I thought it proper to discharge.”— Pliny—Letters, Book X, XCVI.
FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS
(c. 37-100 C.E.) This Jewish priest and historian states that Annas, a Jewish high priest who continued to wield political influence, “convened the judges of the Sanhedrin [the Jewish high court] and brought before them a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ.”— Jewish Antiquities, XX, 200.
THE TALMUD
This collection of Jewish rabbinic writings, dating from the third to the sixth centuries C.E., shows that even Jesus’ enemies affirmed his existence. One passage says that on “the Passover Yeshu [Jesus] the Nazarean was hanged,” which is historically correct. (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 43a, Munich Codex; see John 19:14-16 .) Another states: “May we produce no son or pupil who disgraces himself in public like the Nazarene”—a title often applied to Jesus.—Babylonian Talmud, Berakoth 17b,

wellmax:
Are you done?
I'll tell you what, when you die you gonna know the truth. But then it will be too late.

ikennamadu1:
goto hell with what u believe in. ... I don't care...

ikennamadu1:
someone will just create a thread to castigate a man of God.... I pity u... if that man curse you... u will not leave to tell the story... mind the way u type on social media... when Him members weh be Dss arrest u. .... them go begin type rubbish for nairaland.com ..... mind ur thumbs man... I can champion ur arrest for this rubbish. ..... last warning.... I go soon clear ur doubt...