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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Trending: A Job Seeker Changed The TV Station To Big Brother Nigeria(photo) by Martinez39(m): 11:25pm On Mar 25, 2019

SOFTDRINK:
So because somebody is looking for a job, he should not watch TV again ?

These Nigerian recruiters are always forming demi-gods cos of lack of jobs.

I remember a story of someone not given a job because he had an expensive phone. grin

Enjoying BBN does not mean he can do the job.

Romance › Re: 2 Gorgeous Slay Queens Called Out For 'Seducing' Men by Martinez39(m): 11:19pm On Mar 25, 2019

Nice combo. If a black ass fails, the white ass will succeed and vice versa. Variety is the spice of life.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 9:21pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Show us where I said you can be a "ballon d'or winner who plays for FC Barcelona independent of the following : 1) winning the FIFA ballon d'or and 2) playing for FC Barcelona"?

good night.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 9:09pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
It does obviously make it possibly for wiki and quite a number of others. I guess not for you though, since you are a third party.

I'm smh at you Martinez39!

Okay then. I see it's you picking the third party you like. Anyway, good night and sound sleep to buda. kiss

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 9:07pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Actually, you do not speak facts! You showed this by disregarding facts and concerning yourself with thought. And you do twist words as you've shown by twisting the meaning of words on this thread.

I put it to you that you are trying to sell bullshit and buda ain't buying!

A third party description is not necessarily reality. You should google the meaning of "in principle." No one can be a Muslim feminist in principle. People are free to kid themselves by calling themselves Muslim feminists but it doesn't make them that. A third party calling them Muslim feminists doesn't mean that is what they are or it is possible to be a Muslim feminist.

The reason why you see a group going about calling themselves muslim feminists is because they have the right to kid themselves. Budaatum, as from today, I am now a ballon d'or winner who plays for FC Barcelona. People, according to you, can be Muslims independent of the quran therefore I can be a ballon d'or winner who plays for FC Barcelona independent of the following : 1) winning the FIFA ballon d'or and 2) playing for FC Barcelona. Please acknowledge that. grin

SMH.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 8:48pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Your argument is mute, martinez, since nowhere did the evidence I presented include self identified subjective Muslim Feminists but those determined to fit the description by third parties who have very clearly identified them as Muslim Feminists, objectively! And no, terrorists are not abiding by Islam, just so you know.

Is this "Disgusting monster" Roman Catholic priest, 75, jailed for abusing children not a Catholic Priest, Martinez39?

They fit the third parties' description? Does that make being a Muslim feminist possible in principle?

TV/Movies › Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Martinez39(m): 8:03pm On Mar 25, 2019

Vic2Ree:
D guy na discount Superman

But what else will you expect from Dilapidated Comics (DC)?

Lol. Like Noreos being a cheap alternative of Oreos. grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 7:55pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Why, "in principle"? If a person goes to church every Sunday and claims to be a Christian and then it's found out the person serially kills, would the headlines not read "Christian Serial Killer"?

What if the person was a Pastor in a Church and the crime was sexual assault, would you say that person had nothing to do with the Church?

"In principle" means what it means. I speak facts and I don't twist the meaning of words in the English language. I have no reason to do so except I am trying to sell bullshit. Is he actually a christian? Most pastorpreneurs don't believe in god but they read the bible, go to church and do many things you would expect from a pastor, are they christians?

This is quite disappointing.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 7:51pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Call it whatever you want, be it oxo cubes or hypocrite, but neither means they don't exist now do they? Or do "christian serial killers" not exist?

Don't you agree that 'Muslim' terrorists exist, or are you of the opinion that a Muslim who blows people up is following the Quran and Allah?

Lol. Ironically, the Jihadist are the abiding Muslims or shall I say the true Muslims.

The fact is people giving themself a label doesn't mean they are what the label describes. In America, there are people who call themselves liberals and progressives but they are fascists and totalitarians who try to suppress free speech by censoring speeches they don't like and labelling it hate speech. They label anyone who disagrees with them as racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic (when you criticise Islam), bigoted etc. Are these people "Liberals" in principle? You are yet to answer this.

What does it means to be a ballon d'or winner playing for FC Barcelona? It means you have satisfied the following conditions : 1) you have won the FIFA ballon d'or and 2) You play for FC Barcelona. Can I claim and be regarded as a ballon d'or winner playing for FC Barcelona independent or these two conditions? undecided

I have the right to claim such but it is factually wrong for me to be regarded as such. Claiming such would be to kid myself. A Muslim feminist is just kidding herself.

To strip away objectivity and claim that people's subjective holds against objectivity and any label they attach to themselves is valid is a gross dishonesty or thoughtlessness on your part. Would you say the schizophrenic who claims he is not a schizophrenic is a healthy schizophrenic? Budaatum, seriously? grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 7:28pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Call it whatever you want, be it oxo cubes or hypocrite, but neither means they don't exist now do they? Or do "christian serial killers" not exist?

Don't you agree that 'Muslim' terrorists exist, or are you of the opinion that a Muslim who blows people up is following the Quran and Allah?

So a serial killer is a christian in principle?

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 7:22pm On Mar 25, 2019

LordReed:
LoL, anyone who doesn't agree with him is demon possessed. What a load of crap.

That's how they behave. I remember my uncle having problems with the noise a nearby church and their loud speakers were generating. When he confronted them in anger threatening to call the police or whoever, he just made it worse because the church members thought the demon in him was reacting to their acidic prayers so they continued and increased the tempo grin

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 7:16pm On Mar 25, 2019*

budaatum:
We are human beings, martinez, imperfect human beings capable of choosing what we want and discarding what we do not want. Besides, holy books are usually big books with lots of contradictions therein. What makes you think different people get different messages from different bits of it?

Have you never met a Christian who slaps first instead of waiting to be slapped then turning the other cheek, or one who appears to love their God but hates their neighbours? Are such people not being Christians independent of the Bible? What makes you think Muslims can't do the same?

Lol. I am not saying people can't practice their religion the way they like. Everyone has the right to be a hypocrite. All I am saying is that calling oneself a Muslim or a Christian doesn't mean one is a Muslim or Christian.

Christians who don't follow the bible's teachings are hypocrites. If someone is a serial killer but says he is a christian, your logic dictates that he is a christian, more precisely a christian serial killer just as the oxymoron "muslim feminist." grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 7:00pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
Muslims don't worship the Quran, Martin. They worship the Almighty Allah whose Prophet is Mohammed.

They don't worship the Quran of course but they are to abide by the quran. The quran tells them who Allah is and what his will and instructions are through the prophet Muhammad. The quran isn't compatible with feminism. To ignore the part of the quran that is misogynistic and decide to follow the nice parts of Allah's will is like ignoring the bad sides of Hitler and insisting on his nice side.

You are seemingly trying to saying one can be a Muslim independent of the quran. Buda "I don't support religion but religion might have some truth" atum. grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 6:19pm On Mar 25, 2019

MrPresident1:
Martinez39, I was lecturing you on the Higgs Boson yesterday, and how the rumble of the thunder of creation still reverberates around the universe till today but I was banned by the spam bot.

Have you checked the meaning and significance of the Higgs Boson? Do you now understand why it is called the God particle, and by extension how thunder is the voice of God?

I want smash knowledge into yall stubborn recalcitrant skulls

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Business › Re: How To Make Money Running A Football Viewing Center In Nigeria by Martinez39(m): 6:17pm On Mar 25, 2019

Include a spot to charge phones and a game centre with it. wink

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 5:25pm On Mar 25, 2019

LordReed:
IAmSabrina doesn't need help, she has already dismantled your arguments. I marvel at her patience honestly.

The guy is a complete rεtard. He desperately wants to remain deluded. undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 5:05pm On Mar 25, 2019

shadeyinka:
Oh yes!
When you cut open a human being, some red fluid will come out. That's your soul
I clap for you!
What a challenge?

Are you done?

I wish you first tried it with Bihari. "If you know you are really the president of Nigeria, flex your muscles I want to see"!

Lol. SMH. Good day.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 4:37pm On Mar 25, 2019

shadeyinka:
Everything about you sarcasm!
How can anyone trust what comes out of your heart.

By your spirit, you know God.
If your spirit is dead, seek for solution and stop arguing like an optically blind person. In your case treat your spiritual blindness and then you'll see

Man has a spirit? Any proof of that? I believe that if god can appear to pagans in the bible who didn't acknowledge him then he can appear to any atheist. If god can't reach me except I reach him then he is limited or not serious at all as an all powerful being.

If an all powerful being can't show himself without me using of my spiritual eyes then I don't think he should be taken seriously. He doesn't even need to show himself, let him restore an amputated limb. Let's start from there.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 4:12pm On Mar 25, 2019

shadeyinka:
That's the point.
A blind man needn't agree that stars exist in the heavenliness neither should he agree that a handkerchief is blue.

However, it is ridiculous for a blind man to insist that their is no star nor the handkerchief isn't blue for he has no bases to judge.

So is your case.

Can a blind man touch colour blue or can he smell the stars?

Lol. In your case, YOU can't prove that your god exists or provide evidence for his existence. A sound analysis of the bible and it's comparison with historical and archaeological evidences shows your god is a made up idea and can't exist. I say again, YOU, and I mean YOU, do not have any sound evidence for the existence of your god.

At least in the case of the blind man, the person describing the star can see the star but for you, you don't even have any evidence or logical basis for the existence of your god.

What an irony!
Your own first cause might be an IT!
And your country an IT!
If you like, you can use IT for yourself!

Before we talk now, he would say it's sarcasm! SMH

I have no first cause and I made that clear. As I have said, any explanation for which there is evidence will be accepted by me. I don't go running behind sarcasm all the time. It's not my fault that you can't spot obvious sarcasm.

Celebrities › Re: ‘Poor People Are The Most Ungrateful’ – KBK On Success And Her Parents by Martinez39(m): 2:00pm On Mar 25, 2019

People are always in competition with one another over who is making it in life. Our world is filled with filthy and mean people. They show kindness during a viral story in order to create and seal, once and for all, the image of a moral person which they never had to begin with. Some also do it to show to everyone that they are loaded. Many won't give a poor man on the street except when on camera.

How does speaking pidgin in a video shared on social media entitle you to ₦5M? How does recording a girl speaking pidgin and posting it on social media makes you entitled to a million naira? Anyways, giving the little girl's family ₦5M is not bad and it would have been nice if the family gave Stephanie some even though they are not obliged to give her. After all, they didn't ask Stephanie to put Success on social media.

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 1:42pm On Mar 25, 2019

IAmSabrina:
You are trying to establish the fact that "we can't see planets" as proof of your god. ROFSMDHLOL!

What he is trying to do is this:
>STEP 1 : tell you that you believe in something, say X, without evidence but mere belief.
>STEP 2 : tell you that since you believe in X without evidence then it's okay to believe in his god without evidence.
>STEP 3 : therefore his god exists.

grin

Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 1:36pm On Mar 25, 2019

finalboss:
Stop embarassing yourself, Celestron can do more than that. Bush man. And Try and use something called google

Many theists here need a well rounded education in science and philosophy. grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 1:18pm On Mar 25, 2019

budaatum:
I don't disregard evidence and believe junk cooked up in my head. If I did, I'd cook up God in my head instead since it's way more profitable a belief to cook up than junk.

Okay.

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 1:15pm On Mar 25, 2019

shadeyinka:
Including the blind being told that stars exist...and his answer still remains, "prove it...show me an evidence". I am sorry for you. Living in denial doesn't change a hoot

Lol. The blind guy is no living in denial. He can't believe something he is not sure of or something that can't be proven to him. You don't expect to say, with certainty, that a handkerchief is blue because you told him so.

The same one of a kind God you reject with no spiritual evidence. LOL!

Sarcasm and comprehension are your weak points. Those substances in my sarcastic proposition have seized to exist after being used up in creating the big bang. The same is not for god since he allegedly lives on and mor0ns on earth can know that he exists. If there is no evidence for god, I won't believe in your god. According to you, your god is a certainty and not a proposition so where is the evidence? grin

That's too bad if you couldn't get the sarcasm!

I was reacting to your Perceived anger!

SMH. The irony.

See, evidence of spiritual corruption! What the bases of the word stupid boy!

So you think a ship is called a her because a ship has a female reproductive organ!? I can help but wonder!

So your first cause is called a "HIM"? You need to go to school to know how to use the English language. A horrible attempt at changing your narrative.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 12:46pm On Mar 25, 2019

shadeyinka:
You use your spirit!
Except you are spiritually dead. In that case, I am sorry for you.

So you've used your spirit to know if god exists? How did this happen? grin

How do you explain to a blind man that there are stars seen in the night?

I can't and no smart blind man will believe anything just because someone said it.

From the Big Bang theory the bolded is negated.
Nothing physical existed before the bang!

What if! What if?

You rule out the possible that under those special conditions, these substances converted into energy to cause the big bang? Suppose these substances were the only one of their kind and are lost forever in creating the big bang how would we know there were no particles before the big bang? Seems you are poor at sarcasm.

Let me for once agree with you. There is a pin point massless, volumes, chargers UGO (sorry I had to coin a name). Now UGO had existed in the eternal past and then after trillions of earth life, it decided to morph into our universe.

That could be true. What if you are accidentally right? Can you prove what you said isn't correct?

Can't you see that it is either this UGO has a mind of its own or UGO was compelled by an external force to change state!

Who knows? Could be any. If it's the former, would it be your god? If it's the later, can you prove it isn't so? grin

You don't need to hate this imaginary being called God this much. As far as you are concerned, any other answer will do as long as God is not mentioned.

On a serious note, I don't hate god. It would be absurd to hate something that doesn't exist. Any explanation for which there is evidence will do. It's not my fault that you can't spot my sarcasm?

Whether the creator of the universe is the God of the Bible or not is not your concern. The fact it, there was an Uncaused First Cause and you deny Him.

Stupid boy. How do you know it's a "HIM"? Any evidence? How do you know there is an uncaused first cause? Can you demonstrate that? I will accept any explanation of the origin of the universe as long as it is backed up by evidence.

I think you need to convince us of how a "Boeing 737" can assemble itself if every constituent element is made available!?

No. Seem a well rounded education will come in handy for you. If you don't know that machines are trained humans are behind it then your case is irredeemable.

See the spiritually blind person who want to SEE SOMETHING! With what eyes are you going to see it?

What other eyes do humans have apart from there two biological eyes? If there is another eye(s), kindly demonstrate it's existence with evidence?

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To My Friends Who Are Believers by Martinez39(m): 11:47am On Mar 25, 2019

shadeyinka:
Really!?
Even Phycologists perform measurements having nothing to do with the physical. Or tell me, is it impossible to determine when a person is obviously angry? What instrument do you use?

Haven't you just exposed the fact that physical instruments are obviously limited. Now, you think it is wisdom to superimpose physical instrumentation over that which is not physical?

If God was presented as physical, you have a point. But if not, it's like attempting to use a voltmeter to measure length. I can't work!

See you!

What is natural!?
Are they not things that operate according to the known laws?
If I could duplicate a computer without having to build it with components: that would be unnatural. If I could jump up and fly to the moon unaided, that would be unnatural.

You want to still insist that the Mystery behind the initiation of the Universe must just operate according to the physical laws. Humble yourself just a little and your eyes will open.

... unknown/unexplained is not equal to god did it! BUT SOMETHING did it! Something that was not CAUSED but can CHANGE things. That SOMETHING doesn't obey the natural laws neither is it subject to it.

We call that something God (the Uncaused first-cause of everything).

If that SOMETHING doesn't obey the natural laws, why do you seek EVIDENCE with natural Tools?

If something is spiritual and cannot be seen or felt, on what basis would one believe in that thing if not by assumption? I could say there is a spiritual unicorn with a rainbow coloured skin and twelve legs, would you believe that or expect anyone to just because the unicorn is spiritual and can't be tested?

What if what created the universe are simply physical substances that are eternal; have no beginning/origin and they have a property such that certain physical conditions would cause them to explode and yield the big bang? What if such substances are rare and haven’t been discovered and are far away in space beyond our reach? What if these substance had no duplicate elsewhere and can no longer be found since they've been used up in creating our universe? If you think god can exist without begin created then why can't these particles exist without being created?

My point is that a god is not the only possible way our reality could have come to be. Not only that, your god is an illogical and stupid explanation of the origin of things. If it turns out that there is an intelligent mind behind our origin, what makes you think that such intelligent mind would turn out to be the god of the bible?

No one knows how it all began and there is no logical connection between any religious god and the origin of the universe. It's only with assumptions, faith, stupidity, arrogance and ignorance that one would insist one knows how it all came to be; that a god is behind it; that god is the god of one's holy book and one knows his will. If not a must to have all the answers. If you don't know something, admit you don't know. The fact that atheists and scientists don't know how it all began doesn't mean that the bible is correct.

You have to wake up from this nonsense. You are not getting any younger. Is this how you want to live your life believing and devoting so much to something that isn't real and is very stupid? What sound evidences do you have for your god? None. Mtewwwww. Can you show us SOMETHING that doesn't obey natural laws? You can't.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 8:57pm On Mar 24, 2019

1Sharon:

Allah is gone get you for this

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 8:44pm On Mar 24, 2019

CAPSLOCKED:
SAME FOR CHRISTIANITY.

A PERSON CAN'T BE A RELIGIOUS FEMINIST SEE HOW ALMOST ALL MAJOR RELIGIONS DEVALUES WOMEN.

Exactly! People just love to kid themselves. A life of ignorance and willful stupidity is a sad one indeed. Why people would sincerely fight for a lie when the truth is available beats my imagination. Gosh!

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 8:22pm On Mar 24, 2019

budaatum:
People said one can't be a Christian Atheist and I managed both for years so I'm sure feminists can be Muslims and vice versa, and I've even provided you with evidence!

Your evidence is no evidence at all. The quran does not agree with feminism. Any woman who calls herself a muslim feminist is a joker.

@bold

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Your Help With This Question. It's Urgent. by Martinez39(op): 8:03pm On Mar 24, 2019

budaatum:
I don't think they are Muslim and feminist, Martinez39. They say they are Muslim Feminists , they conform to my understanding of the words Muslim and feminists, others have recorded them as being Muslim feminist and I have no reason to doubt them, or that they are Muslim Feminist.

Do you not accept that those listed are Muslim Feminists, Martin?

I simply asked if they were feminists, I never asked if they were Muslims. Anyway, I was referring to the men-hating and women superiority seeking white women calling themselves feminists. These women have their groups, movements, spokeswomen and have been observed and recorded by others to be feminists. They also conform to many people's understanding of the word "feminist." Should that mean no one should doubt their feminist identity?

Giving yourself a label doesn't mean you are what the label describes. Many people call themselves Liberals in America but hunt those that criticise Islam, support Trump and brand any idea they don't like as hate speech. Can these people be called Liberals in the true sense of the word?

I put it to you that you can't claim to abide by the quran and be a feminist in the true sense of the word. To insist that one is a Muslim feminist is to display ignorance, dishonesty or religious romancing and unseriousness. A healthy brain ought to process the words "muslim feminist" as it would "four side triangle." Feminism and Islam are like oil and water ---- they can't mix. Let's not kid ourselves.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 'There Are Limitations To Free Speech' Says London Mayor After Preacher's Arrest by Martinez39(m): 5:17pm On Mar 24, 2019

"There are limitations to free speech."

Liberals, as usual, ruin societies and western values.

Christianity Etc › Re: 'There Are Limitations To Free Speech' Says London Mayor After Preacher's Arrest by Martinez39(m): 5:17pm On Mar 24, 2019*

"There are limitations to free speech."

Liberals, as usual, ruin societies and western values.

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