₦airaland Forum

96xtr09r:
What else do you expect from bile-filled creatures (Afonjas)?

SirShymexx:
Lol, I'm lost here. My initial post was directed at a next poster and it was in the context of Yoruba/Nigeria. Then some highlighted the excerpt and asked me if it's true. However, you came out of nowhere to say it's a lie.

Subsequently, I provided proofs. But you're now shifting goalpost to Ghana. Like seriously, what has the discourse got to do with Ghana and was the post in which the excerpt was taken from in context of a Ghana and West Africa?

If you've got nothing to say, apart from the lies and revisionism you lot tell yourselves in that country - keep it over there.

SirShymexx:
Well, the volta region in Ghana is inconsequential here cos the discourse is about present day Nigeria.

And Ghana isn't part of Nigeria, is it?

SirShymexx:
masseratti

I'm here to provide my own batch of academic references by Robin Law, a Professor of African history. And I hope you'll provide counter-evidence to prove me wrong cos we're all here to learn. Personally, I love reading history and whenever I see superior arguments, with academic proofs - it's a way to acquire to acquire more knowledge. Please, don't disappoint me and I don't want village fables. Also, make sure everything you post is based on timeline.

Exhibit 1: Early Portuguese Contact

https://i.imgur.com/a7p74Jy.jpg

You can clearly see on this exhibit that: when the Portuguese first arrived on the coast of West Africa (the first Europeans to do so), they visited Bini. However, something happened on the way, when Sequeira was going to Bini.

What happened? - we shall find out in the 2nd exhibit.



Exhibit 2: Rio Do Lago the Rivers of Lake and what's known today as the almighty LAGOS/EKO.

https://i.imgur.com/NIV1uML.jpg

Oh, Sequeira saw the great city of Geebu (Ijebu) that's surrounded by a ditch (Sungbo Eredo) and ruled by Agusale (Awujale). Evidently, they met the Ijebus first, then proceeded to Benin afterwards. Though they cited Rio Do Lago (Lagos), they never mentioned the Aworis. Well, the Aworis were farmers back then with settlement there, and no type of kingdom. So, it would be very difficult to meet them.


Exhibit 3: Continuous Ijebu references and trading, especially Ijebu clothes

https://i.imgur.com/XkbY6qN.jpg

We can see Ijebu, Bini, and Mahin references - no word on Egun and Awori. Isn't it shocking that they referenced Rio Do Lago (Lagos) a lot, but never mentioned Aworis?


Exhibit 4: The rise of Bini Kingdom

https://i.imgur.com/UhGEKUJ.jpg

With the rise of Bini and its expendition to Lagos, they halted direct trade with the Ijebus. Also, they started calling Rio Do Lago the Rivers of Ijebu. But still no mention of Aworis and Eguns. Trading resumed with the Ijebus later. But after this, you'll start seeing the citations of Aworis. Then later Dahomey, which Eguns, were part of.



Exhibit 5: Portuguese map of West Africa

https://i.imgur.com/YsJ3I7g.jpg

They listed the trading posts in that region as follows: Sao Tome, Bini, Ijebu, Rio Forcado, and Rio Camaro. Sorry, I can't find Badagry there...what happened to Badagry? Oh, it was irrelevant and only became relevant after the decline of the Portuguese and the rise of the British Empire in the late 16th century (mostly 17th century).

Anyway, I just gave you Prime Time like Deion Sanders but still here to learn, if you've superior argument.

SirShymexx:
Lol. There was no "Egun" at that point in history - it was Dahomey. And Aworis were farmers in Eko and mainland areas. They never even had any contacts with Aworis, till the rise of Benin in the 15th century, and subsequently, a trade coast was established in Eko. Eko became a trade coast long before Badagry. And Epe was the first trade coast. Heck, the Awujale gave the Portuguese explorers a trade post on the coast in Lekki - way before Eko became a trade post.

We're talking about the 14th century here and the 200 years reign of the Portuguese who were the first to explore West Africa - not the 19th century when the colonial Brits reigned supreme. Heck, before Badary had all the things you listed - Eko already got its independence from the Portuguese. Meaning: Eko was an independent country.

The way you threw all kinds of timelines in the mix shows you've zero knowledge of history. What has 14th century got to do with 19th century?

SirShymexx:
And what are the "facts" according to real history and early European explorers - not some village jejune tales/revisionism for dyck waving?

Please educate me.

rexbuton:
Sir, is the highlighted section a statement of fact?

HIGHESTPOPORI:
What has Buhari done for SW,you have stil not given d answer,and I said its your opinion,which doesn't count if you say SE worshipped GEJ by voting for him,dats d same way am saying SW worshipped Buhari and there is no project so far to show for it.Get it?

richidinho:
I think they are right, for Godsake these people contribute alot to the national purse even more than the entire northern Nigeria whose contributions as far as am concern is Their VOTERS CARD

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For those asking what GEJ did for SE people

GEJ was elected in 2011 as Nigeria President not as South East president, he did his best for them.

Did OBJ made SW look like Dubai? Leading a country like Nigeria is beyond making your region more beneficial to your govt than others

UIA04:
Story for the Gods
Don't compare this one to Zuckerberg and Chan. Zuckerberg is a nerd so a sexy wife would make no difference to him

A tall handsome and successful man like odunlade is a catch any day. She is probably still thankful to God for being the wife

He knows what he is doing keep this one at home to bear the kids and continue with the whores outside

She is truly his mummy.

Don't ask me how I know, I have seen countless women like her both growing up and now, she's even lucky he is man enough to provide some won't even provide for their families but the wife wouldn't want to let go of her handsome serial cheat of a husband

UIA04:
Yeah

Explorers:
Thanks bro.

Happy New Month to all Nairalanders, it shall be a month of Happiness, Blessings&uncommon favour. We will all live to see the end of the year and years to come. Amen

ireneony:
@bolded ..absolute crap

evansjeff:
I know this is not allowed in Christianity, and it has always been a cause of worry to me, any hopes of making heaven? both having kids for me already, fellow nairalanders and Christians...help a wondering heart.

There is no where in the bible that said a man should marry just one wife, just be a good person yourself and both of them.
help move this to Front page please

shine12:
Iranians are Persians and not Arabs.

TheFreeOne:
Who amongst those present players on the political scene has spoken out for their people more than them in recent times? Is it the frogeye that sold his people to Fulani hegemony for selfish personal political exigency and is now wailing because the presidency shut him out in the scheme of things

As regards development in the southwest I hope the regional integration works out fine for our mutual developmental benefits as we look forward to better economic managers as governors.

Jazzlite:
the mayhem those things unleash in the iseyin saki axis needs to be curtailed

anonimi:
They won't allow you drink your Jack Daniels in Kano.
They also won't get a ranch.
And you can't do anything to them as they are well protected by the Dullardpoo in Aso Rock who said they are from Libya despite being their Grand Patron.
No wonder he was ready to fight late Lam Adesina, then governor of Oyo state for daring to arrest the herdsmen who killed Oyo state farmers.
What effrontery!



https://newsrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/buhari-daura8.png

TheFreeOne:
We need such a movement in Yoruba land since those who ought to do so have shirked their responsibilities, become cowards and placed politics / selfish interests above the interests of their people.

Fani Kayode is another of such bold Yoruba men.

shabakm:
i small danger fayose should arm is boys if not fulani will retaliate because they never forget even in 100 years and those ipob supporting you in nairaland cant help you he who have ear let him hear

eebraa:
The Mad man called Fayose and his evil followers