₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkieee:
A President who uses bribery and corruption to coax people into not protesting against bad governance is not a good president. A president who uses force to manipulate his people's protest is not a good president. It does not matter what he thinks he knows.

Well, you are entitled to your opinions.

This is why it's good to have a president that knows what he is doing. Tinubu said he has confidence in his plans and I believe him. I have always known that he is not a clueless president like others. On Tinubu's mandate I stand. The hardships we see today we shall see them no more.

Obidients found gaslighting those northerners should both be charged with reasonable felony. Only SW and SS who engaged in peaceful protests are free of the crime of treason.

It's true. In UK no opposition party is supporting the looting and violent protesters no matter how legitimate it may appear but in Nigeria all opposition see it as an opportunity to reap political benefits. No wonder Atiku and Obi are tacitly and openly supporting the violent protesters and warning security personel instead of cautioning the violent protesters looting and destroying people's properties. We have a long way to go.

Yinmu !

No, don't control your birth rate. Be waiting for free oil money from the south.

So you want them to be able to hide bombs under their hijabs and bomb security personel like they did recently? You think the soldiers are fools ?

VTJN:
you don't have sense. I'm sure you will assume I'm igbo since I'm not in support of your emilokan? Isn't it? But ask yourself if all yoruba supported him and even those that supported him are they still supporting him till date? Tinubu major support is from the Northern region go and check the results of the elections and now they have divorce him due to his bad economic policy that has brought untold hardship and Hunger in the country.

Why i called you a fool was because you pointed at the increment of monthly allocation to the state government as what he has offered Nigerians. I wish i can see some of you guys physically seriously. Tinubu is daft enriching those governors subsidy money that ordinarily the masses supposed to be enjoying. But he came, removed subsidy and scared the money among themselves.

Your mumu is out of this world. So the subsidy you have been enjoying since oil was discovered isn't enough?;Some of you are penny wise and pounds foolish. So you think only Nigerians are benefiting from oil subsidy? All neighboring countries are - Niger, Cameron, Benin Republic and so on. Instead of providing for 200m people you are doing 300m . Does that make sense. Why not remove the subsidy and re-invest it in creation of businesses for Nigerians. For 65years that you have been enjoying subsidy what has it done for you? Ghana and other countries around are paying double for their fuel and they are not complaining. Instead of creating infrastructure and working hard you are looking for free meal. Go and find out the discipline Chinese gave themselves to attain their breakthrough. They devalued their currency and removed all subsidies and worked harder than anybody. But you are waiting for subsidy. Keep waiting and don't get creative. A fool at 65 is a fool forever ?

VTJN:
Tinubu has absolutely nothing to offer Nigerians. He came to steal and to destroy.


Northerners has divorced South westerners. By force marriage don end.

You don't know what you are talking about. If he has nothing to offer how come State and lga allocations have gone up by 70% ? Some obidients talk with no sense.

These northerners are daft. It doesn't make sense. Even if you are protesting against Tinubu why destroy your state and lg properties. Are the assets not gotten with your monies? Now they will still tax you one way or another to replace those damaged properties. Same way they vandalised the computer centre the fed govt built for them. Very funny people.

Brendaniel:
Look there is nothing to access, you guys don't really understand Tinubu, you don't know him...

He can't give what he doesn't have, it is not his nature, what you are seeing him do now he has been doing it since his youthful years..

I can tell you categorically that no other candidate among the whole presidential list would have done as bad Tinubu...

The problem is you people don't really understand what is going on...

One of the major reason why Tinubu could even become president of Nigeria was because of how Nigeria was at the time of Buhari, a good system cannot allow someone like Tinubu become president of any country...

The only way for him to keep himself in power is to further damage that system...

Just think about this, without tribal, political or religious affiliation for a second that if Tinubu with everything he has done and said and everything you know about him contested for any elective position in U.K...

Is he going to win?

I do know Tinubu and have studied him since 1999. I know many people do not understand his political philosophy which is sophisticated.

Brendaniel:
Apologies if any of my words sounded insultive, my own is Tinubu should never have been president neither should he have ever joined politics in Nigeria...

He has done more damage to Nigeria...

But we have passed that stage now. We should objectively assess his performance vis. a vis his opponents in the last election. Could Atiku or Obi have done better than he is doing? Mind you I am not looking at the current inflation because it is expected that when you remove subsidy and float naira there will be inflation. But are there no gains in Tinubu's policies?

emkz:
I think we need to be careful here.

When these riots started, someone even brought pictures from 2011 to spread false news.

Fake news is the trigger for the riots in the UK.

In this picture, there is no time stamp or date stamp. There is no explanation of the circumstances that led to his death. We don't know if he got into a scuffle with someone else who stabbed him as what happened to his head looks like a stab wound, not a bullet wound.

Dear Nairaland Moderators, please there needs to be a delay of 1 hour before certain information appear on Nairaland. By this time, the moderators can verify if what was posted is true or not, and suppress information that might potentially inflame tensions.

You are assuming that obidients have sense. Are they not the same people that carried the rumour of Buharis Jubril for 8 years of Buharis tenure ? For them Tinubu has committed the unforgiven sin of defeating their Agulu packaged fraud kinsman and must be hate. Currently that kinsman is useless in helping Abia pay #30k minimum wage to workers. Talk is cheap !

Brendaniel:
You see why you are talking the way you are talking...

That's because you still don't know that the responsibility of a president is different from that of a governor,if it was the same we would not need the governors at all...

A lot of you Tinubu supporters don't know what governance is about, what governance should be like and why there is even governance in the first place....

That's why you guys can come up with very senseless narratives just to support rubbish in power...

I thought we are engaging in intellectual discuss. Why the abuse of senseless narratives? We need to start engaging in intellectual arguments that can add value to our democracy instead of abuse from obidients. We need to rise above our ethnic and tribal sentiments.

Brendaniel:
That's because you think governance is all
about sharing money...

What else is Otti doing that Tinubu is not doing more at the federal level? Even Ottis is grateful to Tinubu because the little projects he is doing in Abia is courtesy of 50% increase in allocation to states, thereby empowering states and lga to be able to do more for their people. That in itself is a criteria to rate Tinubu's performance because most states and Lgas projects are mostly funded by allocation from Abuja. Internal igr of Abia is nothing to write home about. So if you are not seeing anything hold your gov accountable. That has not stopped him from embarking on road projects. Nigeria will achieve more if we can call out our govs and lga chairmen same way we abuse Tinubu. 50% of National allocation goes to states and Lgas.

Brendaniel:
So this has solved all the problems of Nigeria?

Especially the ones Tinubu caused?

Has Otti solved all the problems of Abians ? At least Tinubu has paid #20k to students. Otti has paid #0 to students and he and Obi made mouth during elections.

Some rich northern elites must be sponsoring the sewing of the flags. People that are facing hardship and have not eaten well won't be using his scarce left over to be sewing clothes he can't wear.

fobiflex:
Again I wonder how you guys think really, Obi should offer a sitting/elected governor ideas on how to pay salaries? I see how you people that support APC really think, and they funny thing is citizens of abia are 95% happy with the govt in power with his laid down policies, clearing a log load of unpaid salaries and others, why your God is busy killing the masses, you said Tinubu was white and now delivering? Delivering what exactly? Paying a stipend of 70k as minimum wage? They way you people actually enjoy poverty is really a case study, the 70k the almighty FG is going to pay can that sustain a family of 3 for 2weeks with the economy bastardizing the so called delivering Tinubu is dishing out the all and sultry?

Let your Otti pay #30k minimum wage first before making mouth. Btw, apart from Lagos, even Oyo and Ekiti States are paying #30k. That's how you people call Lagosba slum meanwhile all your people are mostly based in the same Lagos e.g Other late Iwuanyawu, Onyeka Onwenu, P -square and others. Nah mouth una get. If Tinubu didn't influence today's Lagos will your leaders be trolling here. Even Obi was fully based in Lagos before elections. Obi has no leadership skills otherwise he would have persuaded the UGM to stop same way Tinubu handled Sunday Igboho. But what does he know? Charity should start from home.

Does Iwuanyawu also live in Lagos? They even commended Sanwo Olu for keeping Lagos save. First he visited Onyeka Onwenus family and now Iwuanyawu. So all their leaders have houses in Lagos including Obi but the Obidogs will come online and be calling Lagos a slum simply because they don't want Tinubu to be credited with anything out of envy and hatred. Infact, these people are pathetic !

fobiflex:
I will take the pain of addressing you here though I know you might disagree buh no problem
1. You mean Obi should help Otti pay minimum wage in abia state? For real? So you mean to tell me that before Tinubu became president he was help his party state governors with payment of salaries? Omo
2. You mean Lagos isTinubu’s Lagos? You guys are really the reason this man feel so powerful in Lagos that’s why he has 95% voice to who rules Lagos state in a democratic settings in Nigeria, and remember not much state can compare to Lagos’s revenue cuz of the economic activities going on there. If you’re to judge Obi bring it down to anambra where he ruled for 8years as governor same as Tinubu, then check how he was able to manage the state and the state has been on steady trajectory improvements

Why are you pretending not to understand what I was talking about? Do I mean Obi should use his savings to pay Abians salaries? Please, stop being mischievous. You can help someone with ideas that can be of immense benefit without using your own cash. Both Obi and Tinubu claim they can solve people's problems during election. Tinubu has accepted to pay #70k minimum wage while Otti/Obi are clueless on how to pay #30K minimum wage. Meanwhile,during campaigns he promised heaven and earth up to Chattam House making noise while Tinubu was quiet. Now who is delivering? Same quiet Tinubu. Empty drums make the loudest noise.

Mrkindness:
A typical Nigeria will say instead Igbo man will be president let scatter the country.

What has performance got to do with tribe? All tribes have people who can deliver. If Igbos have presented a more competent man than Tinubu why will I not support him? But for me your candidate in the last election was no where near Tinubu in performance. We need our best to lead us at this critical moment and not ethnic sentiments. Let your candidate first help Otti to pay #30K minimum wage in Abia not to talk of the new #70k own. Talk is cheap. Upon all the theories he propounded during elections he has not done anything to help Otti. Let him start with one state then we will know he can handle the country. At least , Tinubu's Lagos is still ahead of all the other states.

lexy2014:
all you have said, is that not what the protest was about?

How many of us have protested against our state govs or Lga chairmen? We refuse to do that and focus on Tinubu alone hence some people see it as political. This divides us the masses. Let's all stop being parochial and demand accountability starting with our immediate leaders like LG chairmen and govs then president and senators.

This is what we need to protest for. Allowances of ministers and senators shouldn't be shrouded in secrecy. We don't need to know about their salaries but allowances. How can a NASS of less than 500 people be budgeting #344B plus for themselves and masses are in penury. Allowances of senators and ministers need to be published. Where do they get money to buy properties in Dubai from?

Adeyeyeaki:
Bros, are you truly educated? Sorry for asking this. Am a Yoruba man, leadership has nothing to do with ethnic. From day one, it was a failure. "Subsidy is gone" tell me what measures did he put in place. None.

We are all in this together but to say he does not have measures is untrue. We might not feel it yet but I believe in some months time we will. I believe Tinubu is investing massively in Agriculture to bring down food prices but you can't harvest today what you just planted yesterday. I believe we will start feeling the impact of those measures before the next one year.

lexy2014:
how has this increased allocation made life better for nigerians compared to the subsidy that previously held down the price of fuel?

where are you going to get accountability from your politicians?

have previously obtained accountability from them in anything?

is it nw that allocation increased that they will be accountable?

who are these rent seekers?

if you say the increased allocation "represents what was largely unaccounted hitherto and embezelled by rent seekers", has the increased allocation not been embezzled?

I feel this is what we need to protest for. We must know what every senator earns as allowance. We demand accountability or we protest. These people are excessively greedy. We demand the accountability starting from the LG chairmen . By the time we beat hell out of them that will reset their brains. Same can be done to legislooters. Cost of governance is excessive in Nigeria.

Nvestor02:
If Tunibu agrees to remove subsidy, that will make him the most incompetent president ever. I know how courageous Tunibu is, and I know no amount of criticism can stop him from taking Nigeria forward. Thank you.

Removing subsidy is the frontier of their demand because the people that are sponsoring this protest are the ones benefiting from subsidy and they want it back to loose Nigeria more dry.

If Tunibu decides to remove the subsidy, it would make him seem like the most incompetent president ever. But I know how brave Tunibu is, and I believe no amount of criticism will stop him from pushing Nigeria forward. Thanks.

Removing the subsidy is their main demand because the people behind this protest are the ones benefiting from it, and they want it back to drain Nigeria even more.

This decision is the right move to improve Nigeria. We've already seen how he increased the allocation by 41%. I can't understand what these people are thinking when they say Timangu is on the wrong path.

To make Nigeria better, everyone needs to make sacrifices. What you eat your responsibility than the government's. Let that really sink in.Yiwo

You said there is an increase of 41% in allocation. Definitely the increase is coming from the removed subsidy. That increase represents what was largely unaccounted hitherto and embezelled by rent seekers. Left to me let subsidy remain removed but we need to demand more accountability from our politicians. Allowances of senators and ministers must be curtailed. No more secrecy in what they earn as allowance. How can less than 500 people be budgeting #344B for themselves. This is acceptable. We need to block all leakages and divert it to health and education. Politicians are buying properties in Dubai while the masses are dying of hunger.

Kalashnikov49:
Obasanjo was not YORUBA choice..

TINUBU was YORUBA choice .


Very sophisticated people..

RONU

Let Tinubu finish with his own 8 years like Obasanjo and then we can have this conversation. Until then your proposition is not valid.

Naira20:
Alakori...I no bother watch because he won't make sense

It is people like you that still makes this country backward. No positive engagement. Only hatred and envy because your candidate lost an election. After elections all Americans rally round the winner until the next election cycle. Can't you see how they rallied round Biden until now that they want to do another election? But Obidients can't even constructively criticise Tinubu other than abusing him. Is that how to add value to your country? Pathetic people ! You people believe you can bully the rest to accept Obi as president. Keep it up. Abuse Soyinka, abuse Toying Aimakhu, abuse Femi Kuti, bully Portable, just know that that will still not make your kinsman president.

If Shina Peller nah Ibo Dem for dey cry victimisation all over Nairaland now. Thank God he is a Yoruba man. Obi for don write an epistle.

Electorate:
Maybe Tinubu want Nigeria to burn, he doesn't care. He never believed in one Nigeria, So, I am not surprised. The signs are now glaring...I hope the military is taking note





Oliver Twist, past Democratically elected President like Obasanjo, late Musa Yar'Adua, Goodluck Jonathan, Buhari have all at one at a time come on national tv to address Nigerians ...Tinubu have never for once addressed the nation on national tv...Is he TV shy or afraid to Bala bulaba?

Even if he addresses Nigerians some people will still not be satisfied. Their grouse is that their kinsman lost to Tinubu, no more, no less. But are they the only one who lost to Tinubu? Meanwhile that their Messiah kinsman has not been able to help Otti pay #30k minimum wage in Abia yet they claim he would turn Nigeria to Dubai. Nah for mouth Dem dey do am. Start with Abia and let's see your doings, then watch if I won't vote for him !

When some people say their motive is regime change? While I support a peaceful protest I am totally against a violent one targeted at regime change which some people are hoping for behind the scenes.