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Zither: Firestar, good evening to you. http://watchthetower.net/reasons.html is where I got the information. Yes I have met Witnesses but, unfortunately, I haven't come across any since discovering the information from the link above.
I know it is ridiculous..that was my initial reaction when I read it. However, I have only posted it as it is. You can verify through the link given.

grandstar: This question can not be answered here. Its too lenghten and its objective is to cause confusion. Best you print it out and meet Witnesses one and one and enquire from them. You will receive answers backed up by the scriptures. The authors are apostates, probably witneses who were disfellowshiped. Apostle Paul said such try and draw away disciples - Acts 20:29-30. Always make sure that what ever is taught is defended by bible scriptures (Acts 17:11). Jesus did that- Matthew 4:1-10

Zither: Op, like the way you began the thread. However, your beliefs are sincerely in error. I shall post the Jehovah's Witnesses' beliefs and some facts to serve as future reference point..

"...Of all items listed, only three have been discontinued. (highlighted in red)
All are listed, however, to show the absurdity of Watchtower rules and the absolute control leadership
has over the lives of members once they join.
1. God is not a Trinity; the doctrine is inspired by the Devil
2. Jesus Christ is a "created being," who at one time did not exist
3. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to-he is only an angel (a.k.a. Michael the archangel)
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is hope only for select Jehovah's Witnesses. The majority of JWs hope to live on "paradise earth"
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.There are only 9,105 alive today (2006 figures)
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only "true Christians." All churches and denominations are considered "false religion"
8. There is no Hell or eternal judgment ("Hell" is simply the grave)
9. There is no life after death except for the 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
10. Salvation is earned only by being a loyal Jehovah's Witness
11. Jesus second coming happened invisibly and secretly in 1914
12. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918
13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being
14. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man)
15. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission
16. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism
17. God is not omnipresent
18. God is not omniscient
19. JWs are not sure of their salvation
20. All earthly governments are controlled by the Devil
21. The Holy Spirit is only available to select Jehovah's Witnesses
22. They are forbidden to serve in the military
23. They are forbidden to buy Girl Scout cookies
30. They are forbidden to celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.)
31. They are forbidden to celebrate their birthday
32. They are forbidden to run for or hold a political office
33. They are forbidden to vote in any political campaign
34. They are forbidden to serve on a jury
35. They are forbidden to own or wear a cross
36. They are forbidden to speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped)
37. They are forbidden to accept Christmas gifts
38. They are forbidden to purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.)
39. They are forbidden to read Christian literature
40. They are forbidden to have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses
41. They are forbidden to marry a non-Jehovah's Witness
42. They are forbidden to salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag
43. They are forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes.
44. They are forbidden to have a tattoo
45. They are forbidden to use pet foods made with blood or blood products
46. They are forbidden to donate blood or their organs
47. They are forbidden to read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material
48. They are forbidden to interpret the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it
49. They are forbidden to wear any Christian jewelry
50. They are forbidden to support their country and be patriotic
51. They are forbidden to be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling
52. They are forbidden to join any clubs or sports teams
53. They are forbidden to participate in a school play
54. They are forbidden to use any tobacco products
55. They are forbidden to attend the funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness
56. They are forbidden to say "good luck"
57. They are forbidden to be a police officer
58. Women are forbidden pray in the presence of men without a hat or head covering
59. They are forbidden to play chess
60. They are forbidden to wear jade jewelry
61. They must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits)
62. They must read and study Watchtower literature regularly
63. They must go from door to door weekly to gain converts
64. They must attend five meetings per week
65. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage
66. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Halls have no windows
67. If they witness another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules they must report them to the elders to be interrogated
68. They are forbidden to take a blood transfusion
69. Men are forbidden to wear beards
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today
71. Women must submit to the authority of Watchtower elders
72. They must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions
73. They must study Watchtower books at least six months before they can be baptized
74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 Bible questions with Scripture references in front of a panel of elders
75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses
76. They cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride)
77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating
78. They must appear before a Judicial Committee if they are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed)
79. All pastors are the "Antichrist"
80. All churches are of Satan
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York
82. They are discouraged from attending college
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper)
84. The Lord's supper can only be celebrated annually
85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon
87. If they have a non-Witness spouse their first loyalty is to the elders over their spouse
88. Angels direct the Watchtower organization
89. Judgment day is 1000 years long
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name"
93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at Armageddon
94. They are strongly discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes)
95. They must never enter a church building
96. They must never attend a church service
97. They are discouraged from buying a two door car
A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work
98. Men must wear short hair
99. They must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister"
100. They can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature
10l. They must report their witnessing activity to the elders

What they're called...

-JW services are called "meetings"
-JW hymnals are called "song books" (all songs have to be composed by JWs)
-The JW religion is referred to by the Witnesses as "The Truth"
-The JWs call themselves "The only true Christians"
-The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Inc. of Brooklyn, New York is called "God's Organization"
-In conversation JWs call Watchtower headquarters "The Society"
-All other religions (pagan, Christian, or any world religion) are called "Babylon the Great"
-All Christian pastors and ministers are called the "Antichrist"
-Changes in doctrine is called 'New Light'"

I got this from a website. It was compiled by a couple who were former members, Paul and Pat Blizard. I know you won't deny the authenticity and accuracy of this compilation.

benny4wax: tell me why you believe Christmas is a pegan believe and i will tell you why i think you are stuppid............

benny4wax: nice post op but i would love to counter your said doctrines one after the other.....

you made mention that your Doctrines has never changed since the beginning, That maybe true......

you don't celebrate Birthdays?
(YOUR CUP OF TEA NOT MINE)

you dont celebrate Christmas?
(THEN I GUESS YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS MISSION)

No Blood,
(THEN I SUPPOSE WATERS FLOW THROUGH YOUR VEINS)

No Two Wives
(THAT BELIEVE IS GENERAL EVEN AMONG PAGANS)

You never believed in Trinity,
(WHO CARES? BUT WE DO)

you never believed that everyone goes to
heaven.
(TO AVOID BAN, I COMMENT MY RESERVE)

you don't believe in Hell
(DENIAL IS THE GREATEST DEFENCE MECHANISM OF MAN)

you don't do politics.
(BLA BLA BLA, TALK TO THE HANDS)

are not pursuing wealth.
(THEN I ASSUME YOU ALL LIVE IN ABJECT POVERTY)

I ONLY CONCUR WITH YOUR WRITEUP BELOW ......
(we don't teach
economic empowerment inside God's house)
'I saw a pastor on tv with the topic "How to
be economically empowered" inside church?
I wept'

A POST WORTHY OF FRONT PAGE......

#TeamRomanCatholicTillIDie#
GOD BLESS THE POPE THE PILLAR OF THE CHURCH..............................

kITA TITA: I'm not a member and I don't agree substantially with your doctrines but I think you have outstanding people among your members. People who are decent and unattracted to the trappings and voracious appetite of the modern generation towards wealth and power.

rabzy: When pharaohs were crowned in ancient Egypt they were considered to have transformed into gods. This divine promotion made their coronation date much more important than their birth into the world. Scholars have pointed to the Bible's reference of a Pharaoh's birthday as the earliest known mention of a birthday celebration (around 3,000 B.C.E.), but Egyptologist Dr. James Hoffmeier believes this is referencing the subject's coronation date, since that would have been the Pharaoh's "birth" as a god.

The Greeks offered moon-shaped cakes to Artemis as a form of tribute to the lunar goddess. To recreate the radiance of the moon and her perceived beauty, Greeks lit candles and put them on cakes for a glowing effect. The Greeks most likely took the idea of birthday celebration from the Egyptians, since just like the celebration of the pharaohs as "gods," the Greeks were celebrating their gods and goddesses.

“Originally the idea [of birthday greetings and wishes for happiness] was rooted in magic. The working of spells for good and evil is the chief usage of witchcraft. One is especially susceptible to such spells on his birthday, as one’s personal spirits are about at that time. Dreams dreamed on the birthday eve should be remembered, for they are predictions of the future brought by the guardian spirits which hover over one’s bed on the birthday eve. Birthday greetings have power for good or ill because one is closer to the spirit world on this day. Good wishes bring good fortune, but the reverse is also true, so one should avoid enemies on one’s birthday and be surrounded only by well-wishers. ‘Happy birthday’ and ‘Many happy returns of the day’ are the traditional greetings” (The Lore of Birthdays, Linton, p. 20)...

The giving of birthday gifts is a custom associated with the offering of sacrifices to pagan gods on their birthdays. Certainly the custom was linked with the same superstitions that formed the background for birthday greetings. “The exchange of presents… is associated with the importance of ingratiating good and evil fairies… on their or our birthdays” (ibid.).

The traditional birthday cake and candles also have their origin in ancient pagan idol worship. The ancients believed that the fire of candles had magical properties. They offered prayers and made wishes to be carried to the gods on the flames of the candles. Thus we still have the widely practiced birthday custom of making a wish, then blowing out the candles. The Greeks celebrated the birthday of their moon goddess, Artemis, with cakes adorned with lighted candles...

ajoguegbe: And who gave you the statistics of poor people in his church. Most of you wish pastors are poor, it is the desire of the devil too, but its too late they have discovered their rights in Christ. If you as an ordinary member realize your right in Christ and work hard, you will join the rich class, its not meant for pastors alone but some are leading by example.

It was Judas who criticized Mary for spending on Christ with the argument that such spending should have been given to the poor, an argument Jesus countered(John 12:3-5). The same old trick of the devil: trying to use compassion for the poor to stop believers from getting any favour. For crying out loud 90% people are poor by choice not by chance. Many had the same challenge that made them poor but utilized it to become rich while they were giving excuses. You don't expect me to be living poor just because their are people who refused to pay the price that I paid. Some people are making money now while some are always on Nairaland lazying and looking for the next pastor to criticize, later in life they will look for those to blame for their poverty: either government or uncle. I have told myself, I have no reason to be poor and even if I am a pastor, it has not changed my conviction. Hate me as you can, its not my fault, I labour for it like some pastors do

Disclaimer: Please note that I am not saying there are no theifing men of God, but such people often return to poverty, karma catches up with them. And even if not, they will pay the ultimate price but it is not you that should judge a God's servant(Rom 14:4), no not in a public forum, bible is against it; it is not you that should join the camp of the accuser of the brethren (Rev 12:9-11)except you are working for the devil yourself

Maximus85: Abeg how much is their school fees? And are there just 25,000 students in the school? I'm seriously thinking of getting my second degree from Unilorin.

firestar: Greetings!
Beautiful experience Maximus. The times are changing, and sadly we armour the secret person we really are to adapt to it.
And more often than not, we draw the blinds wide enough to express courtesy, hospitality and appreciation. Fellow feeling for our people.

Nwanneamakah: Doesn't her character/attitude count?


A forgiving spirit, deep respect, and understanding are what i believe count. Come to think of it, I know a couple of people who got married virgins but are now divorced...and also know some people who have been straffing all their lives, but eventually got married and are still happily married till date. A happy/successful marriage is a union of two good forgivers.
WRT the best gift to give, I feel the price isn't what matters most, but, the immediate need of your spouse and the motive/spirit behind 'the giving'. A gift is best appreciated when it comes in handy

Macelliot: Let me answer your question.
It's as simple as Abc.
A roman god celebration usually takes place on the 25th dec. So when christianity came into existence in rome, the christians decided to wipe away the pagan celebration totally by celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ on that same day.
For example
If Nigeria breaks up, the Igbo decided to celebrate their own independence on Oct 1st, because if Igbo decided to celebrate it on August 5th for example. Whenever the day Oct. 1st comes, students will be saying, "oh! We supposed to be at the stadium doing matching parade now, if not because we have broken in different minute countries."
So, that's it. Hope you understood?
Thanks!

Yungbitz: [quote author=Maximus
i dont no if u cn help me..4 about 2yrs nw i can smell a tin....it started in my final yr,i had catarh such dat my nose was kinda block..@ wen d catarh cleard up,i could no longer seml anytin..i met a doctor in a clinic n xplained,he was lik it wud eventually stop dat it happens @ times....but til date i stil cnt smell a tin...help if u can..am in Benin

TVT KOKO: Op, u're a bigot and a saddist! Now tel me wat u're tryin to insinuate? Atleast Christians knw dey serve a God so why nt leave dem to celebrate him for once without ur useless accusations/perceptions Now you're celebrating God during christmas, its no more Jesus. You're sooo confused

delightful1: Wow! I'm wishing I am your girl already (just joking). But seriously, I like such romantic men and Yes, we really need to bring back the love letter kind of love.

delightful1: Exactly, I just find it more romantic.
I loved (still loves) writing and receiving love letters but who got the time to write me any?

allycat: Sorry I don't do private practice. Still get get a referral either LASUTH or LUTH any doctor can write one for you. Unfortunately ENT equipment is very expensive so unless he/she isn't buying good equipment it is unlikely you will see a cheap one, that's also why the waiting list in government hospitals is soo long.

allycat: There are private ENT clinics one in Ilupeju ,20 Ilaaka street off Coker street Another at 19 Yinusa Adeniji st off Muslim avenue off unity road ikeja. They are not cheap though. Unfortunately unless it's a life and death situation you will be given an appointment if you go to any general hospital.
What you describe sounds like your Eustachian tube , a tube that connects the ear to the back of the nose, is not functioning well so fluid is accumulating in the middle ear. So treatment will be geared at decongesting the nose. Nose drops like Otrivin 2 drops 3 times a day for 5 Days maximum. Nasal decongestants like procold one a night for the same 5 days and then an excercise to allow air into the middle ears and displace the fluid. Hold the nose and close the mouth and then blow your nose for like 3 seconds. You should feel the ear pop. Do this like 10 repetitions 3 x a day.. I didn't examine you so I can't prescribe more. Do this for a week and see an ENT if you still have problems.

delightful1: Saturday.
True OP, people rarely send SMS now but I so love it. It doesn't matter How many times one calls me, without SMS I still feel not loved, Lol, that feeling is actually crazy.
The truth is I love the old school kind of love, writing letters and all that.

Spanishmario: I sent an sms almost everyday...jst bringing bck d old tyms

achidisucre: I've de same illness too. Mine started when I had cough. My ear got blocked, i cant hear very well, when i use cotton buds, i scoop out dark coloured earwax. I met a chemist who gave me hydrogen peroxide which I applied to scoop out the earwax. This has lasted up to 7 weeks. Now, I still hear humming noise in my ear. Pls any advice ll be appreciated.

achidisucre: I've de same illness too. Mine started when I had cough. My ear got blocked, i cant hear very well, when i use cotton buds, i scoop out dark coloured earwax. I met a chemist who gave me hydrogen peroxide which I applied to scoop out the earwax. This has lasted up to 7 weeks. Now, I still hear humming noise in my ear. Pls any advice ll be appreciated.