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Jayses: My pastor is a female @ does that takes away my manly hood ?

That's a big shame.

clip: Some interpret this passage to mean that women should never teach in the assembled church. However,others commentators say that Paul's word "I suffer not"( I never let) can be more literally translated"I am not allowing" Paul did not forbid women from ever teaching men. Paul' s commended co-worker, Prisilla,thought Apollos,the great preacher ( Act 18:24-26). In addition,Paul frequently mentioned other women who held positions of responsibility in the church. Phebe worked in the church ( Romans 16:1) Mary,Tryphena were the Lord's workers (Romans 16:6,12) as were Euodias and syntyche (Philippians 4:2) Paul was here prohibiting the Ephesians women, but not all women from teaching.

I'm very sorry but you are very wrong. Paul was referring to all women. A woman can teach a man but not in the church, in the church they are to be silent as to teaching. Na listen dem must listen. Apostle Paul com say...if something dey wey she no understand....if she reach house make she ask her husband. Shikena!!!!

Agishon: acts 18:26 Priscilla. and Aquila explained the Scripture to Apollos who was a man. this might help us.

Yes you are right. They corrected Apollos but not in a church gathering or a church as a whole. It was individually done. Standing in the pulpit is what we are talking about.

I noticed 2 Goliaths. One is from Gat, the other is a Gittite but they are both philistines. What if "Goliath" is not a name but a title for highest ranked men of war in philistine?

Little Flock Vs Great Crowd

Luke 12:32
“Have no fear, little flock, (Rev 14:1) for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.
These are seen by John standing WITH the lamb (Jesus) in heaven (Mount Zion) They are those whom Jesus has chosen to rule with him. Rev 7:4-8

“Great Crowd” are persons who gain salvation and remain on earth, Rev 7:9. These ones "Great Crowd" were seen by John standing BEFORE the lamb.

(Standing with and Standing before)

This poses the question: If the “great crowd” are persons who gain salvation and remain on earth, how could they be said to be ‘standing before God’s throne and before the Lamb’? (Re 7:9)
The position of ‘standing’ is sometimes used in the Bible to indicate the holding of a favored or approved position in the eyes of the one in whose presence the individual or group stands. (Ps 1:5; 5:5; Pr 22:29, AT; Lu 1:19) In fact, in the previous chapter of Revelation, “the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and every free person” are depicted as seeking to hide themselves “from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” (Re 6:15-17; compare Lu 21:36.) It thus appears that the “great crowd” is formed of those persons who have been preserved during that time of wrath and who have been able to “stand” as approved by God and the Lamb.


GREAT CROWD

An expression that, in itself, is quite common in the Christian Greek Scriptures. “Great crowd(s)” is sometimes used with regard to the large groups of persons who heard Jesus Christ’s public teaching. (Mt 14:14; 19:2; 20:29) After the vision of the destruction of the symbolic Babylon the Great, the apostle John heard “what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven.” (Re 19:1) At Revelation 7:9, however, “a great crowd” is mentioned whose identification has particularly been a matter of keen interest.
In this chapter, the apostle John first refers to the sealing of 144,000 slaves of God “out of every tribe of the sons of Israel.” (Re 7:2- After this, he saw in a vision “a great crowd” out of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues. These ascribe their salvation to God and to the Lamb as they stand before God’s throne. They have come out of “the great tribulation,” they serve God in his temple, and he spreads his tent over them. All their hunger and thirst are to be ended and every tear is to be wiped from their eyes as his Son (the Lamb; Joh 1:29) guides them to the waters of life.—Re 7:9-17.
Popular Views. Various views have been advanced as to the significance and identification of this “great crowd.” Many commentators view the 144,000 sealed ones, first mentioned, as members of “spiritual Israel” and believe that they symbolize the Christian congregation while on earth. They feel that the “great crowd” represents that same Christian congregation in heaven, after the individuals have died in faith and have been resurrected. Others hold that the 144,000 are literally from “every tribe of the sons of Israel” (Re 7:4), that is, fleshly Jews who become Christians, and they consider the “great crowd” to represent all the Gentile Christians. A consideration of Revelation chapter 7 and other related texts, however, reveals serious inconsistencies in these views, at the same time pointing to a different conclusion.
To hold that the 144,000 sealed ones are the members of the Christian congregation while on earth whereas the “great crowd” are the resurrected Christians in heaven does not harmonize with the other mention of the 144,000, in Revelation chapter 14. There the 144,000 are stationed with the Lamb on “Mount Zion.” At Hebrews 12:18-24 the apostle Paul contrasts the experience of the Israelites at the earthly Mount Sinai with that of the Christians who have “approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens.” Obviously, then, although Revelation 14:3 says that the 144,000 have been “bought from the earth,” the context depicts them as being, not on earth, but in heaven with the heavenly Lamb, Christ Jesus. (Re 14:3, 4) This renders invalid the view that the 144,000 represent the Christian congregation while on earth in contrast with their being the “great crowd” in heaven.
Additionally, the way in which the apostle John introduces his vision of the “great crowd” indicates a clear distinction of identity between them and the 144,000 sealed ones. He states: “After these things [the account of the 144,000 sealed ones] I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number.” (Re 7:9) He thus presents the “great crowd” as a separate entity and makes a definite contrast between the specific number of the 144,000 and the unnumbered “great crowd.” They are also distinguished by their being, not “of the sons of Israel,” but out of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues. They are not seen standing ‘with the Lamb’ as are the 144,000, at Revelation 14:1, but are “before the Lamb.” These several factors all argue that the “great crowd” is separate and distinct from the 144,000 sealed ones.
On the other hand, the view that here Christians of Jewish stock are being distinguished from Gentile Christians runs counter to the apostle Paul’s inspired statement that fleshly distinctions are of no consideration in the Christian congregation, its members being all one in union with Christ Jesus. (Ro 10:12; Ga 3:28) Jehovah, having ‘fully reconciled both peoples [Jews and non-Jews] to himself in one body’ through Christ, could hardly be expected to make a division between the two groups now by separating fleshly Jews from Gentiles in the vision given to John. (Eph 2:11-21; Ac 15:7-9) This is particularly evident when the divine principle stated by Paul is taken into account. The apostle wrote: “He is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit.” (Ro 2:28, 29) Why, too, would there be no mention of any ‘sealing’ of the Gentile Christians in this divine vision? And why would not the Gentile Christians be able to master the new song sung by the 144,000? (Re 14:3) It thus seems clear that the 144,000 sealed ones are of spiritual Israel, not fleshly Israel—hence include both Jewish and Gentile Christians.—Ga 6:16.
Their Identification. The key to the identification of the “great crowd” is found within the description of them in Revelation chapter 7 and in obviously parallel passages. Revelation 7:15-17 speaks of God as ‘spreading his tent over them,’ of their being guided to “fountains of waters of life,” and of God’s wiping “every tear from their eyes.” At Revelation 21:2-4 we find parallel expressions: ‘God’s tent being with mankind,’ his ‘wiping every tear from their eyes,’ and ‘death being no more.’ The vision there presented is concerning persons not in heaven, from where the ‘New Jerusalem comes down,’ but on earth, among mankind.
This poses the question: If the “great crowd” are persons who gain salvation and remain on earth, how could they be said to be ‘standing before God’s throne and before the Lamb’? (Re 7:9) The position of ‘standing’ is sometimes used in the Bible to indicate the holding of a favored or approved position in the eyes of the one in whose presence the individual or group stands. (Ps 1:5; 5:5; Pr 22:29, AT; Lu 1:19) In fact, in the previous chapter of Revelation, “the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and every free person” are depicted as seeking to hide themselves “from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” (Re 6:15-17; compare Lu 21:36.) It thus appears that the “great crowd” is formed of those persons who have been preserved during that time of wrath and who have been able to “stand” as approved by God and the Lamb.

The Lamb’s guiding them to “fountains of waters of life” finds a parallel at Revelation 22:17, which says: “The spirit and the bride keep on saying: ‘Come!’ And let anyone hearing say: ‘Come!’ and let anyone thirsting come; let anyone that wishes take life’s water free.” The “bride” is clearly identified in the Scriptures as the anointed Christian congregation, espoused to the heavenly Bridegroom, Christ Jesus. (Eph 5:25-27; 2Co 11:2; Re 19:7-9; 21:9-11) The invitation to “take life’s water free” presented by the heavenly “bride” class is obviously open to an unlimited number of persons, “anyone that wishes.” Likewise unnumbered are the “great crowd,” the vision at Revelation 7:9 thereby harmonizing with that at Revelation 22:17.

The sum of the evidence, therefore, points to the “great crowd” as representing all those persons who are not of the heavenly “bride” class, or 144,000 sealed ones, but who stand approved at the time of the “great tribulation” and are preserved alive on earth.

Before Adam and Eve chose the wrong course, the earth was filled with peace. Satan in turn said that we human can rule ourselves without God. God is allowing him prove his point. Satan is failing so when his time is Up...he'll be removed and everything will be back to normal just like in the garden of Eden.

Jesus said we should pray for God's kingdom to come. He said we should pray for God's will to be done here on earth as it has already been done in heaven.

God's will for the heaven is to remove Satan and his demons from heaven...it has been done.
God's will for our earth now is to remove Satan for us and once that is done....we'll all go back to that condition God primarily planned for all of us.

Those going to heaven are to rule with christ because in a tactical sense they have lived with men and they know how we behave...ruling over us will be just.

If all the good ones goes to heaven and the bad ones destroyed....who will be left on earth? What will be of Daniel 2:44? How will the Bible prophecies like the one in Psalms 37:9-11 be fulfilled, what of the ones in Isaiah 65:17-25 and that of Revelation 21:4,5

God did not create us like robots. He gave us a free will to choose from wrong or right. Your decision is yours. Obey God or disobey him.

God gave strict warning that Adam and Eve should not go near that tree not to talk of touching it. He even told them what would happen if they this obey him. They chose to disobey him knowing well of the consequences of their action.

Fashola said we must use the pedestrian bridge, evidently its for our own good. But some people would still cross the express. If they get killed....would you blame Fashola for anything? Read Eccl 11:9. You will be judged based on your decision.

I heard someone saying he need to be purified before making heaven.

The Bible says "there will be a new heaven and a new earth in which righteousness is to dwell" if God destroys the planet as they teach you...will he destroy heaven too?

The new heaven has been since Jesus and his angel sent Satan out of heaven, a new earth will be when Satan and his demons are destroyed...only then will righteousness dwell here on earth. Why go to heaven again?

doubleDx: Yeah, because the LORD is purifying his servants in the furnace of affliction! You can't just make it to heaven without being purified.

Isaiah 48:10 New King James Version (NKJV)

Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.


Psalm 34:19 {King James Version (KJV)}

Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all.

Psalm 66:10-12 King James Version (KJV)

10 For thou, O God, hast proved us: thou hast tried us, as silver is tried. 11 Thou broughtest us into the net; thou laidst affliction upon our loins. 12 Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads; we went through fire and through water: but thou broughtest us out into a wealthy place.

Zechariah 13:9 (New King James Version (NKJV))

I will bring the one–third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘This is My people’; And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’” <<<<< This here is the affliction that will follow after WW3.<<<<<

Matthew 24:22 King James Version (KJV)

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. <<<<<< So, the days of the affliction would be shortened for the sake of the LORD's elect who are going to be the remnants after WW3<<<<<<

YAHAWEH BE PRAISED IN OBADIAH777's LANGUAGE !!

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The one we have for cake is N130,000. Its very very durable and bakes soooo fine. Run on gas.

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ceejayluv: A sane post at last...

Seconded by me. A sensible post at last.

The over 12 hours marathon meeting between
President Goodluck Jonathan and striking
members of the Academic Staff Union of
Universities ended at about 3.30am on Tuesday at the Presidential Villa, Abuja without a
commitment from the union members.

ASUU President, Dr. Nasir Isa Faggae, told State
House correspondent that the delegation was
taking back an undisclosed message to their
members following which a decision will be taken on the union’s next line of action.
“We have had a lengthy meeting with Mr.
President, robbing minds on how best to address
the problem of university education in this
country. We now have a message from Mr.
President that we are going to take to our
members and we are expecting that our members will respond appropriately to his message,” he said.

He said since the message was meant for
members, he would not divulge it to the press.
When asked whether he will call his members to
return to the classroom, he said that decision was left for members to take.

When further asked whether he was impressed by the President’s message, Faggae warned
journalists from putting words into his mouth,
insisting that only ASUU members would
determine that.

Minister of Labour, Chief Emeka Wogu, who
listened to Faggae’s encounter with journalists
later said progress was made during the
discussion.

He said, “We made progress. The President of
ASUU told you that they are going back with a
message from the Federal Government back to
their members and the message is full of high
expectation and hope.”

When asked whether ASUU will call off the strike,
the minister said that was why he described the
message as full of expectation.
“Our prayer is that they will come back with
positive outcome. They might even not come
back to meet us. They might take decision there
that will meet your expectations ” he said.
He added that the offers made by the government during the meeting were offers that were in line with the 2009 agreement.

He said since the issues that led to the strike
bothered on the 2009 agreement, the government did not go beyond that agreement.

The President was joined at the meeting that
started at 2.40pm on Monday by Vice President
Namadi Sambo; Minister of Finance, Dr. Ngozi
Okonjo-Iweala; Secretary to the Government of
the Federation, Pius Anyim; Supervising Minister of Education, Nyesom Wike; and Wogu among
others.

Faggae led the union team which included past
presidents such as Prof. Abdulahi Sule-Kano, Prof.
Dipo Fashina and Prof. Festus Iyayi.

President of the Nigeria Labour Congress,
Abdulawahid Omar and that of the Trade. Union
Congress, Bobboi Kaigama, also attended.
Other members of the delegation were Prof.
Biodun Ogunyemi, Prof. Victor Osodeke, Prof.
Suleiman Abdul, Dr. Victor Igbum and Mr. Michael Odunmoraye.

Source: Punchng.

Yo Mama Is so short....her legs shows in her passport photograph.

Yo Mama is so fat...her picture fell off the wall.

That hym suit go cover my bed oooo.

Tpave: After education, house, car and children. Is there any other achievement that one needs to be called a successful man. I believe that fame and power is an extra achievement. Pls let us discuss about it.

You need a wife. From all u listed....I can't see a wife.

engrjoe: Mennnnnnn after listening 2 d song, I can boldly say EMINEM is indeed a RAP-GOD. Oda fast rappers should 4get catchn up wif him cos he's on a fast track......

Pls....I nEed the song. It has been removed in all the links posted.

Edoblakky: Pls let's not misconstrue the gift with the sign of tongues. Mark 16:17 says "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; The gift is not given to everyone but the sign is for every christian. Speaking in tongues helps to build us up. If we do not speak in tongues, growth is hindered. 2Cor 14:2. As a christian, I pray in tongues everyday and I enjoy marvelous fellowship with the Holy Spirit.

Which tongue do you speak in? Do you understand what you say? Cos those speaking in tongues knows what they are saying. Tongues = Languages. Don't get it twisted.

Zatwo: I want to know if speaking in tongues is compulsory for Christians. Whats d benefit? and wat wuld happen if a christian chooses not to

[b] Speaking in Tongues means speaking in different languages. And in Penticos 33CE, the apostles where able to speak different languages and people around who are from different lands were hearing their own language and were wondering how come these people are speaking my language?

So when one man start talking one gibberish that he himself can't understand....just leave him to his madness. 1 Corinthians 14:23

Of what use is the rubbish you say that people around you can't understand? And you expect them to say Amen after your prayer when they can't understand you.

Pastors: please stop saying sweet things to these people. Stop telling then about how to prosper. Teach then Matthew 6:33.

"Tha lord is my shepherd I shall not want"
Its not material provision oooooo. Its spiritual provision, spiritual food. The one we need to grow spiritually and be loved by God.

And when a pastor do business. Must the preaching be on CDs and DVDs? They know the more the members, the more they sell. What part of receive free, give free can't we understand?


And as for Women speaking in front of a church. It is forbidden. 1 Corinthians 14:33-35.[/b]

Its a big surprise that this post made no sense to anybody.

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The following four Bible principles can help you with money problems and debt:

1. Plan your spending “The plans of the diligent one surely make for advantage, but everyone that is hasty surely heads for want.” (Proverbs 21:5) Don’t rush to buy something just because it’s on sale. Make a financial plan—a budget—and stick to it.

2. Avoid unnecessary debt “The borrower is servant to the man doing the lending.” (Proverbs 22:7) If you are already in debt and can’t meet your obligations, try to negotiate new payment plans with your creditors. Be persistent. Use the Bible’s advice to one who unwisely guaranteed a loan and thus took on responsibility for the debt: “Humble yourself, and pester your neighbor. Don’t let your eyes rest or your eyelids close.” (Proverbs 6:1-5, God’s Word Bible) Even if your first request isn’t successful, keep on asking for an adjustment.

3. Keep money in its proper place “Don’t be selfish and eager to get rich—you will end up worse off than you can imagine.” (Proverbs 28:22, Contemporary English Version) Envy and greed not only can lead to financial ruin but also can crowd out spiritual matters.

4. Be content “Having sustenance and covering, we shall be content with these things.” (1 Timothy 6: Money can’t buy happiness or contentment. Some of the happiest people in the world do not have a lot of money. What they do have is the love of family and friends and a friendship with God.—Proverbs 15:17; 1 Peter 5:6, 7.

The Bible is really beneficial for all things. 2Timothy 3:16,17

Your comments please.

So how does this affect ASUU strike? And I heard that plane is over 20years old. Now to cross the road u need to look right, left, right again and then u look up in case of a falling plane. We complain that our drivers (vehicle, motorcycle and tricycle) are mentally ill. Now our pilots too are getting MAD.

Will anything ever work in Nigeria? Simple Education can't work. Some people want to stay home for 6years without work and want to receive salary.

To all the useless lazy lecturers if I were to be Jonathan, I go make sure hunger waya unar well well. Na unar go dey beg say unar no wan strike again.

You want change and you don't want to sacrifice. There are millions of jobless qualified lecturers out there, I go sack all of unar come employ new serious minded ones. And that ASUU, I go scrap am come create another body wey go dey use brain.

Atk 01: Really? yea right, it doesn't affect ASUU strike.

Abi ooooooo.

I was dumbfounded when I heard this. Big ups to P-Square. Thank you for making the world say some good things about us.

Here is the quote.

“I like to listen to music. ..all
sorts honestly. I can listen to
dutch songs, English songs..whatever…if the
tune is good I like it.” When asked who in
particular he likes, he replied “Michael
Jackson, Usher, P-Square…all sorts honestly.”

This is good. But how does it affect this ASUU strike?

A divorced female musical artiste manager. A little male friend with leukemia. Pure friendship, Love, suspense, sacrifice, tragedy etc.
This story has never been told in this part of the world. Its not the normal family, romance, church story we are all used to.

Raw handwritten material.

Money back guaranteed if its not worth it. This will be the best movie made in Nigeria.

I am not selling just to any movie producer or investor. I want to make sure the story is in good hands and I will want to be part of production because of some detailed stuff that I felt while writing that can't be expressed in words.

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REALITY101: Sure is... Ada Oduah blame it on dumbb pilots and china made airplanes

Wow... Are you saying there are chinko and kpalasa planes? Hmmmmm interesting!!!!

striktlymi: Oya tell us her error and d correct phrase.

For your mind now...U think say I no go school.

"In two year's time, I should have bagged myself a degree in (add ur course)"

She's even on trousers.

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