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TenQ:
Since there would be arguments on this issue, then it simply probes that human morality on this is subjective.

Morality has always been subjective, people come together for a common custom and manner.

Do you think if you go back in time and wore a clothe, these people will consider you any more moral?
And if they see a modern woman dressing almost naked, do you think they will chide her?

TenQ:
You tell me?

We challenge every law in existence. This is the behaviour of humans.

We even challenge the law of biology which is supposed to be fixed. Thus Bob Risky can show us his brand new bumbum and be proud about it

Quote the law of biology.

The surgery bob risky did, does not require the knowledge of biology?

TenQ:
Hi

Of course my opinion will always be subjective to me and could be different from your own opinion.

The Truth is that morality should be absolute irrespective of where it is applied on the earth. But we know that it isn't because between us humans we cannot absolutely agree on what is moral and what is not


Does Putin or the Russian army think they are acting immorally by invading Ukraine?

Your definition of “truth” and what it should be or not, is also subjective to yourself, it’s just like a story of blind men and a elephant.
How do you know your truth is the truth?
Where is truth and false located?

Putin and Russain army are doing their work which is to defend their country.
Justice is doing your own work.

TenQ:
As long as each society can determine for themselves what they consider moral and it can be at variance with what another community or persons subscribe to, the law of morality remains subjective

Customs is never the same in different societies, there may be similarities.

Image123:
i said that i can't claim to be a student by mere claims

Who said you can’t claim to be a student by mere claims?
Who will beat you? Or is there a law against it?

And I don’t think christianity or Buddhism, apart from CULTS, have a database of all their followers that are “legal” compared to a school, all these mumu analogies.
Where are they registering for judaism?

Image123:
Myanmna's meaning abi wetin be that guy name.

I can also make some crafty names.

Image of the elohim, which they created male and female, Androgynous, i am getting somewhere .

TenQ:
There is a higher Source to which I cannot negotiate with that said that!
I have to comply even if it doesn't agree with what favours me

What you are advocating for is Theocracy and it will do more harm than good. Anyone can claim “higher source”.
Seun kuti once made a remark “if there are no gods, there are no kings”.

TenQ:
Note:
Any law of morality that is subject to personal definition is SUBJECTIVE!

You should run through history from the shamanism age to the agrarian age to the technology age you have now, then you will get better understanding of “morals/customs”.

TenQ:
Note:
Any law of morality that is subject to personal definition is SUBJECTIVE!

Note:
Your opinion is SUBJECTIVE.


The subjective and the objective, go together, you can’t have one without the other, and that’s because they are ONE, just like a magnet has positive and negative poles, they seem different, they act different but they still come from ONE MAGNET.
Nothing is either good or bad, our thinking makes it so.

Manner: a characteristic or customary
mode of acting.

Custom: a usage or practice common to many or to a particular place or class or habitual with an individual

TenQ:
You may challenge the VISA law if you want. People all over challenge every existing law

Does challenging a law that doesn’t favor you, make you moral or not?

TenQ:
is Gay law on Marriage Objective or Subjective?

If anyone is going to answer it, it’s going to be based on his subjective opinion.

And is it objective or subjective to dictate to an adult what they should do with their OWN body?

Your answer will still be subjective.

TenQ:
There is a higher Source to which I cannot negotiate with that said that!
I have to comply even if it doesn't agree with what favours me

Still your subjective opinion.

Another person will also claim “There is the highest Source to which I cannot negotiate with that said that!
I have to comply even if it doesn't agree with what favours me”.

That’s why we have suicide bombers killing for the “highest source” and they can’t negotiate it even if they don’t want to die.
What they have forgotten is that the books they read about the “highest source” and the characters in it are from a Specific CUSTOM.

Laughing in jewish

TenQ:
No, I
[i]Examples:
1. Having the required VISA to travel to another country is an objective Law

Which objective law made it so that the earth is carved into “countries”?
Is it moral for earth to be separated by borders called “countries” ?
What is wrong in travelling all over the earth, why do i need a “visa”?
Who made the rules of “Visa”?

TenQ:
No, I am not proving your point.

I am actually asserting that:
Morality means NOTHING if it is subjective!

Note:
Any law of morality that is subject to personal definition is SUBJECTIVE!

You asserting your opinion is SUBJECTIVE.
Who is “I”?

Which objective law says I should take your “assertions” serious?

TenQ:
Even the government for the sake of sanity make the law objective and not subjective.
Eg. We drive on the right side of the road even if you are a professor of Traffic Engineering who discovered that driving on the left is actually better.

It’s from subjective discussions of lawmakers that they agreed on a objective position, and through another subjective discussions by lawmakers in the future they might agree on another objective position.

We run a democracy in Nigeria not Aristocracy.
In democracy, even a professor in traffic engineering will have to convince the lawmakers before they can accept his stand and even at that some people won’t still agree, that’s why they vote subjectively, and the highest votes comes out as objective law.

TenQ:
I said:

Is it moral to do gender assignment for your children?

Is it moral to have an open marriage?

Is it moral to invade another country that you believe may be friendly towards your enemies?

Is it moral to have sex with animals?

Is it moral to dress sparingly?

If morality can change according to how we feel and our individual disposition, then it becomes meaningless.

Is it moral to have abortions?

If you think one is right or wrong, it depends on the custom of where you are and what they do.

That’s exactly the origin of the word “moral”.

TenQ:
I said:
Even the so-called golden rule:
Why should we obey it?
Does this law always favour me!?

Who is the “me” that it is favoring?
Your ego?

One of the greatest laws in your New Testament is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
That’s the basis of morality.

TenQ:
I said:
Morality means NOTHING if it is subjective!

“I said” is that not subjective?

You are already proving the point.

Image123:
You really need to see a doctor, sincere advice.

You really need to be free from the chains of jews, sincere advice.

Before the orthodox you had in nicea creed was created; the early jewish christians e.g Ebionites, KNEW Iesus chrestus was not born from a virgin, and he got adopted At baptism and he got abandoned at the cross 😂😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoptionism
Catholic don help una edit am so yall will remain blind worshiping jesus, son of pathera.

If not for religion how will you think a VIRGIN can give birth? Think na!!

Flamemignon1:
Are you seeing it too? Who the hell are these people to even say someone is religious or not as if they follow the entire tenets of their own religion

Abi na.

TenQ:
Morality means NOTHING if it is subjective!

It means EVERYTHING, and it keeps changing through Subjective discussions, we have lawmakers making laws everyday In nigeria.
How were the israelites able to gather in harmony before the 10 commandments if they didn’t have mutual agreement?

The greatest law is the golden law, “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.

The inside and the outside, the subjective and the objective, the self and other go together.
There is an harmony and unbreakable harmony, concordant relationship,
The 2 processes, the 2 behaviors are one.
You can’t have objective without subjective.

Image123:
Of course, have you not seen how Myanmar or what's his moniker is trying to force everybody to be religious? i never knew it was a benefit though.

Have you ever wondered why catholic revere VIRGIN mary so much.
She is the mother of God through Trinity, without mary there’s no jesus
Do you think the concept of virgin women given birth to “son of god” is uncommon?

“See mary, see jesus 🎶 🎶” 😂😂

sonmvayina:
Death is just an illusion, we can never die..it is an impossibility...

Rather, the universe is an illusion from ludere “to play”, keep acting

sonmvayina:
In a different body..

You are not a body, You have a body.
Everyone is You.

Puss360:
Hmmm..
This matter heavy pass as I see am .
Well, sit her down and talk to her ...
If no head, then involved her family members/elders...
But since this is a civil issue, then I feel dialogue/conversation will go along way....

I don’t think the husband is even complaining about the prayers, it’s the incessant and inconvenience it is creating for others, make she do am moderately.
Weekdays Morning are very important.

Chronosvineberg:
You do have a point, ever since I left Jesus and started my romance with the devil. Na me and shege de live o

And who do you think the devil is? Look in the mirror 😂

Puss360:
Married/relationship is all about doing what you know will make your partner happy... As long as it doesn't affect the relationship negatively...
Allow her to pray , cast and bind...

Can’t you see clearly that it is affecting the marriage?,
“My wife keep listening to this pastor every morning leaving everything she supposed to do as a woman in the house.”
if marriage is doing what will make your partner happy, why is she not making her husband happy?


Imagine the husband is also staying late for work and listening to sermon too, the way you are even sounding gan, “The shop, at least she goes....”
If you don’t take your work serious what do you think will eventually happen? Who opened the shop for her?
Is it when the shop folds, and she starts begging money to “sow seed” that’s when the man of the house should talk?

And What exactly are you casting and binding from monday to Friday, every week
If you continue seeking; you will never find.

Queenttoast01:
2 Thessalonians chapter 1
King James Version

1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: 2Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 3We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth; 4So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
5Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: 6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
11Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Quoting books you don’t know who wrote it and basing your life on it chai

Look up “ Hypostasis”, worship your own head, not jesus, son of pathera.

Image123:
A totally human Jesus is a sinner like every other person, a mere founder and philosopher. He cannot be a Saviour, which is FUNDAMENTAL to the christian faith and scriptures.

It’s fundamental only to the Catholic, which they made orthodox in the nicea creed.

Your jesus is son of pathera, some claimed he raped mary, others claim mary was an harlot

You are following a tertulian DOCTRINE, but you can’t think for yourself, the indoctrination is DEEP!

Image123:
i am not religious and don't care to be. i gave examples of religious people like the biblical scribes and pharisees. The person i was addressing seems to have got the point BTW. You don't lump everyone together in some hypocritical stat padding to prove a pedophile point, knowing that your own definition makes you and other claimed atheists fall in the same religious bucket definition.
Stop deceiving yourselves with the everybody is religious, therefore every pedephile is part of everybody therefore religious, therefore we are all the same format. That scam has been used since the days of Eve.

The biblical scribes were yahweh worshippers.
Atheists don’t have belief systems like theists, I don’t think you even understand what atheism means, just full of stark ignorance and beliefs that you read in a book with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

Religious people are bind together to a set of beliefs, as religion come from religare.
If the pharisees want to talk about you worshiping 3 gods in 1, do you think they will call you “religious”?
Do you think those that don’t believe in trinity inside that your christianity, will call you religious?

Stop been delusional, anyone that believe a god or gods and they carry out rites in respect to it is religious, a money ritualist believes in a god like you.

Have you read about your“biblical mentors” that were killing and murdering people for yahweh sake, they even took virgins for themselves, you are the hypocrites like your creator.

The stats shows most pedophiles are THEISTS, get that to your skull!

Image123:
They are not on the journey yet. i can't claim to be a student by mere claims. No registration, no school fees/tuition, no uniforms or admission. Just strolling into the school every once in a while.

You are talking about traditional school that have set doctrines and beliefs.

By the standard of a Muslim, you are also not “religious” because you are worshipping yahweh.

A yahoo boy bathing soap is very religious to his religion and gods, same way you are to your isrealite deity, yahweh, same way as an allah worshipper or baal worshipper, etc.

All of you are religious, and if you have noticed, all religions are traditional.


By fire by force Trinity

Everyone is you