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preciousee17:
Pardon me if I answer you nonchalantly, but ehm, that picture, I can't read Hebrew...

Unknown authors wrote the biography of Moses? But Moses was born with a hand? That could write...
At this point my brain is feeling itchy. It's so easy to accept the book because it was later discovered and documented but it's hard to accept Moses as the author.
See our difference, you run to every book to gain knowledge.
I run to the Bible with known, tested and trusted authors to gain knowledge...
The old testament belongs to Jews, we just got the part 2 lol.
What do you think the new testament is?
Isn't it also biography and laws and messages like the old testament, because a different gang received the prophecies, the Jews dissociated themselves ASAP 🥲
The books belong to the Jews, the words in it belongs to us too, we accepted, they didn't.
Bible means book of books... We didn't claim to manufacture the books, we just accept it too...

OLAADEGBU:
Welcome To The Transgender Zone...

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Queenttoast01:
1 Timothy chapter 5
King James Version

1Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; 2The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
3Honour widows that are widows indeed. 4But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God. 5Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day. 6But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 7And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless. 8But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. 9Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man, 10Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work. 11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; 12Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. 13And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. 14I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. 15For some are already turned aside after Satan. 16If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.
17Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. 18For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward. 19Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. 22Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. 23Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. 24Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after. 25Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

benodic:
To get love we must give love, and the same is true, spiritually, of freedom. To have freedom we must give freedom—and you find that the more you are able to give, the more you get.

Sri Harold Klemp
Truth Has No Secrets

preciousee17:
God used the YHWH word for Moses in the book of Genesis. I don't know if He later used those stuffs you're mentioning up there.
I could look into it, if you're so sure.

preciousee17:
How do I open my heart to reply you when I'm this tired?

Do you mean it was translated from Masoretic to Hebrew? Before getting to English? I'm genuinely curious.
(And I know Yahweh is not a Hebrew word, sometimes it's easier to leave details and type faster)

Arguments that aim to decipher the origin of words written thousands of years ago usually stress me out. It's not my normal thing, but we adopt a word with a certain meaning and we accept the meaning, not really the word.
So we can keep on saying "buddha" and using it to taunt people with the mindset that buddha means 'buttocks', it doesn't mean that we are intentionally disrespecting Buddha and his/her worshippers. It doesn't also mean that we are calling the real Buddha a "buttocks"...
It just boils down to the definition we accepted, not necessarily the definition that was intended.

That notwithstanding, I'm still curious that our Hebrewish YHWH doesn't conflict with the Greek Jove or something....
And yes, I don't have knowledge about all those stuff, this was my only argument — that the words are of different origins

preciousee17:
Are you using Wikipedia to open the Bible?
Well I don't have the strength to confirm what you've just said, but God used the YHWH word for Moses in the book of Genesis. I don't know if He later used those stuffs you're mentioning up there.
I could look into it, if you're so sure.

preciousee17:
Originally spelt as YHWH, it was deemed unpronounceable — only that the English translators decided to add vowels to help us pronounce, and it means a couple of things, like I AM THAT I AM in it's original Hebrew (which was written many thousands of years before this Greek myths)

preciousee17:
After all, our own Yahweh is a Hebrew word , not Greek)

preciousee17:
Is the Abasi for me?

vdestro:
Crap!

Clear and ordinary English interpretation shows that "Most High" means The Highest of all. Meaning One Who is the greatest and there is no ine greater and that all is lesser than Him.

Thus, no matter the language used,Most High remains Most High whether El Elyon or Abasi

Queenttoast01:
Christianity is the only religion of Peace

https://www.nairaland.com/7754597/christianity-only-religion-peace


https://www.nairaland.com/7766527/god-father-son-jesus-christ

OLAADEGBU:
What Was God Doing Before Creation?

Our ability to trust God's promise of salvation relies upon our ability to trust everything He says about history, from beginning to end.

ANSWERSINGENESIS.ORG

lawani:
Religion is a psychiatric disorder. If you are a psychiatrist you will understand. Before religion no one on Earth will tell a fellow man that his way of worship is wrong and when you meet foreigners speaking a different language you fully expect a new perspective on theology unlike nowadays that people want to save people. It is madness believe me

lawani:
What of insane people that were never diagnosed?. There is nobody without psychiatric issues. Ideology alone is a psychiatric disorder and we all are blown by bias. Mohammed was insane to believe he is the last prophet yet he was undiagnosed and many today act exactly like him and are suffering from the same insanity.

lawani:
Some mad people may have excessive ego which sometimes is the cause of their insanity

LordReed:
I am not asking about those days, I asked about 20th/21st century.

LordReed:
How? Which 20th/21st century scientific finding, scientific research or technological advance was shaped by religion?

I have asked this question before but no one seemed to be able to answer it.

Mynametoluilori:
Nobody can be rich without me.

preciousee17:
Is 'ego' not equal to pride?
Don't be deceived, "Pride goes before a fall"...

benodic:
Build your spiritual foundation carefully so when the psychic waves come, bringing doubt and fear, problems, and health situations, you will be strong enough to see and know why you are going through this, and that it will pass. Whatever is here today must one day pass. It’s the nature of life. Spring gives us the example: Nature renews itself each year; it renews all life.

Sri Harold Klemp
Touching the Face of God

preciousee17:
Yup, God's Lighthouse .

NNTR:

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Please be informed that whatever Book of Enoch, seen hawked about, is a hoax and that though Apostles Peter & Jude, rightly quoted from it, they both actually were quoting part of it, to an audience, familiar with the book.

Listen grab a chair and sit down before reading whats coming next.

Its a given that, all scripture are God inspired. Make no mistake about this that, all 'many versions to a story' are not God inspired and this includes, all apocrypha and pseudepigrapha books. Now especially talking of BoE (i.e. the Book of Enoch,) it is for the same very strong reason, why it didn't make it into the 66 canon

Now, here is the point Depriest2020, and let me clear you on whats going on here, with all these apocrypha and pseudepigrapha books, like the beloved and coveted BoE (i.e. the Book of Enoch) that some are besotted with, Jubilees, BoJ (i.e. the Book of Jasher,) Book of A&E (i.e. the Book of Adam and Eve,) Book of Noah et cetera

The reason why all those apocrypha and pseudepigrapha books, like BoE, Jubilees, BoJ, Book of A&E, Book of Noah et cetera never and didnt make it into the 66 canon was because they are fake news. In fact, it was in the first century, soon after Jesus' death, that these books started being authored and, interestingly enough, they never were God inspired.

Now, the 'The Book of Enoch', which there are three versions of it, is a perfected work and good art, of, reverse engineering. The Book of Jasher, the other half of the BoE, twins spawn of Satan, that's paraded about, is not the original one mentioned in the Bible, meaning that, it is not the one mentioned in verses like Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18. The original BoJ (i.e. the Book of Jasher) is lost, missing AWOL. The paraded one, seen out there, is a hoax, it along with the other apocrypha and pseudepigrapha books, are inflated works of the imagination. They all and/or each, are literary works of fantasy, with, not likely to be true and/or not to have happened, improbable things put into them.

My dear friend Depriest2020, it is because these books, are not in fact, what they write to be, is why they aren't in the 66 books that make up the Protestant Bible. There are no authenticities, in any of the apocrypha and pseudepigrapha books, including in this matter, the BoE (i.e. the Book of Enoch)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Queenttoast01:
1 Timothy chapter 4
King James Version

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. 7But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness. 8For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. 9This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. 10For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 11These things command and teach. 12Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 13Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 14Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery. 15Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. 16Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

benodic:
Your behavior tells everybody where you are spiritually.

Sri Harold Klemp
Love—The Keystone of Life

AntiChristian:
The worship started from Abraham! And since you don't believe they built the Kaaba, then nothing more!

Queenttoast01:
1 Timothy chapter 3
King James Version

1This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
14These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 15But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

OLAADEGBU:
What is a crazy story, that everything evolved out of nothing?