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Christianity Etc › Re: Isa Is Not Jesus (There Is No Muslim Jesus) by Maynman:
HarshBitterTrut:
Yet I quoted Joesphus who was a Judean that was born in 37 A D about 3 years after the Crucificion so his story is rather fresh. The story of Prophet Muhammad comes 600 years after the Cruxificion. Joesphus says the Crucificion happened and the Quran says it never happened.
Jospehus wrote about Judas of Galilee and not Iesus chrestus, and if we are to date to events in the book it doesn’t tally with jesus iesus story.
All the copy of jospehus books we have now is gotten from Eusebius, a early Christian father and a forger, it’s not exactly a good source for Iesus chrestus.
Christianity Etc › Re: Isa Is Not Jesus (There Is No Muslim Jesus) by Maynman: 7:05pm On Jul 15, 2023
HarshBitterTrut:
My point was to show the difference between Isa and Jesus as it pertains to the crucifixion belief. And why Jesus crucifixion was necessary for the Christian and why Arabs reframed it. I am not saying that Muslims are not monothiests only that Islam is a different type.
Muslims got the name Isa from the correct Aramaic name of jesus which is Isho. Yeshua is a hebrew name.

Alright then.
Christianity Etc › Re: Before You Go To That Circus. by Maynman(op):
https://www.nairaland.com/7690588/hel-hell

When will you come to realize that your beliefs are simply a result of various combinations of ancient Jewish, Greek, Norse, Latin, and other influences?
Christianity Etc › Re: Before You Go To That Circus. by Maynman(op): 3:56pm On Jul 15, 2023
A magician can only perform miracles magic in a controlled environment or settings.
Christianity Etc › Before You Go To That Circus. by Maynman(op):
“Sometimes, The Church is like a Circus”.

The etymology of the word "Church" is commonly believed to be from the Greek phrase "kuriou oikos" (House of the Lord), as stated in the "Dictionary of Phrase and Fable."
However, this assumption is highly unlikely since the word existed in Celtic dialects long before the introduction of Greek.
https://www.infoplease.com/brewers/search/Church

According to Smith's Dictionary of the Bible (one-volume edition) and Professor A. Fausett in his "Home Bible Study Dictionary,' the word "Church" is derived from an early term meaning "circle," similar to the word "circus." Professor Lipsius, a prominent historian and theologian during the Reformation, conducted a significant study supporting the notion that the word "church" does indeed originate from "circle."
https://www.studylight.org/dictionaries/eng/sbd/c/church.html
https://bible-history.com/faussets/c/church/

The term "Church" is derived from the word "KIRKE" (Circe).
It is referred to as "Kirk" in Scotland, "Kirche" in German, and "kerk" in the Netherlands.
These words demonstrate a more correct derivation from the Greek Kirke than the English word "church." Even Old English used "Circe" to refer to "church," further revealing its origin.
https://her.highland.gov.uk/monument/MHG412

Robert Brown's work, "The Myth of Kirke," also affirms that "kirke" (church) means "Circle" or "Circular".
The term "church" not only denoted a
"circular" building or monument but also had a significant association with the ancient
Goddess Circe.

Circe was a pagan figure, the daughter of the Sun God, often depicted as a minor goddess of magic, a nymph, witch, enchantress, or sorceress. She was worshipped as "Christos Helios" and gained fame for her ability to tame wild animals in her Circus.
“The term "circus" is derived from the Latin word "circus," which is a romanization of the Greek word "kípKos" (kirkos), meaning "circle" or ring."
According to the early Christian writer Tertullian in his book "De Spectaculis," the goddess Circe allegedly organized the first circus games in honor of her father Helios, the Sun God."

In classical accounts, Circe is often depicted holding a golden cup containing a mixture of wine and drugs/pharmacusii (associated with sorcery), which she used to control kings and exert her power.
The Apocryphal Book of Revelation includes references to this Goddess, Circe. She is described as the Great Wh.ore who sits on many waters and seven hills.
In Revelation 17:4, it is written, "And the woman [symbolizing a church/kirke] was arrayed in purple and scarlet color and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."

Revelation 18:23-24 states, "Because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery (pharmakeia). And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."

The Greek word translated as "sorcery" in this verse is "pharmakeia," which is the root of our words "Pharmacy" and "pharmaceutical" (DRUGS).

The name “Church" (Circe, the Great Wh.ore) is currently used to refer to almost all Christian assemblies.

Circe was buried on one of the islands of the Pharmakoussai (Pharmacussae) group in the Aegean Sea, within sight of the Isle of Patmos.
It was on Patmos that John received the visions found in the Book of Revelation of the New Testament and where the book was written.
Although Circe is described as an immortal goddess, a "tomb" typically served as a shrine for hero-cult.
https://www.theoi.com/Titan/Kirke.html


While the Greek word translated as
"church" is "ekklesia," meaning "called out ones," it more accurately corresponds to the English words: congregation, assembly, or group.
In Acts 19:32, "ekklesia" refers to a riotous mob. It is never used to describe a building for worship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJGPRHkjgI
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is No Muslim Jesus by Maynman:
Bubu4Sea:
Jesus went to the Synagogue and called it His Fathers house

John 2
King James Version

14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house a house of merchandise.

17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

Jesus spoke of His Church

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus never spoke of a mosque

Christianity Etc › Re: Isa Is Not Jesus (There Is No Muslim Jesus) by Maynman: 5:53am On Jul 15, 2023
Eusebius, the master forger cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 7:55pm On Jul 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
***Yawn***
Of course it is boring to a golem like you, don’t you enjoy sadness in chrestus iesus cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
I didn't mention the government of any country as you can fill up the the gap
No government does this, pele “If in my house we practice pedophilia, am I subject to judgement by the government? Why is my interpretation of morality foolishness? Why should the government respect my definition of morality with respect to pedophilia?”

How is pedophilia affecting you PERSONALLY?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Really Create Plants Before The Sun? by Maynman: 7:45pm On Jul 14, 2023
Was it only planet earth that was created?
Has planet earth always been 24 hours?

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
If in my house we practice pedophilia, am I subject to judgement by the government? Why is my interpretation of morality foolishness? Why should the government respect my definition of morality with respect to pedophilia?
Is this government ”Universal”?
And don’t forget that it’s the government that set up customs/morals in a society through the lawmakers, and the laws and lawmakers are always changing.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
Should the standard of morality be universal true or subjective to every society and person?


Any morality that is subject to subjective personal interpretation is a sham!


If in my house we practice pedophilia, am I subject to judgement by the government? Why is my interpretation of morality foolishness? Why should the government respect my definition of morality with respect to pedophilia?
There’s no universal anything, is there a universal form of eating?
The standard of morality in a society is set up by people in that society through subjective discussions.

So your opinion is a SHAM! grin


“If in my house we practice heterosexuality, am I subject to judgement by the government? Why is my interpretation of morality foolishness? Why should the government respect my definition of morality with respect to heterosexuality ?”


Listen to your advice and answer my questions that i asked before this.

When moses went to receive the 10 commandments in the Jewish book, which SOCIETY was it for? The Egyptians? Moabites? Babylonians? Or israelites?

Does it matter to putin if Ukraines call him moral or not?
Do you think it matters to a Christian if a ogun worshipper calls him moral or not?
Do you think it is moral to determine who is moral or not based on your own opinions?

The people that the isrealites killed and made slaves in Old Testament, to their victims especially their children, do you think they see yahweh and israelites as moral people?

Do you think the parents of the kids elisha killed, will consider elisha a moral person?
Some people even try to twist it that they are “grown men” like it makes it better to kill people for mocking you.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 7:02pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
Why is it difficult to answer this simple question?


Should the standard of morality be universal true or subjective to every society and person?
I have answered it, seems you looking for a Jewish answer that aligns with your jewish book.

There’s no universal anything, is there a universal form of eating?
The standard of morality in a society is set up by people in that society through subjective discussions.


Listen to your advice and answer my questions that i asked before this.

When moses went to receive the 10 commandments in the Jewish book, which SOCIETY was it for? The Egyptians? Moabites? Babylonians? Or israelites?

Does it matter to putin if Ukraines call him moral or not?
Do you think it matters to a Christian if a ogun worshipper calls him moral or not?
Do you think it is moral to determine who is moral or not based on your own opinions?

The people that the isrealites killed and made slaves in Old Testament, to their victims especially their children, do you think they see yahweh and israelites as moral people?

Do you think the parents of the kids elisha killed, will consider elisha a moral person?
Some people even try to twist it that they are “grown men” like it makes it better to kill people for mocking you.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 6:59pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
Should the standard of morality be universal or subjective to every society and person?
You need to be answering my own questions too.

When moses went to receive the 10 commandments in the Jewish book, which SOCIETY was it for? The Egyptians? Moabites? Babylonians? Or israelites?

Does it matter to putin if Ukraines call him moral or not?
Do you think it matters to a Christian if a ogun worshipper calls him moral or not?
Do you think it is moral to determine who is moral or not based on your own opinions?

The people that the isrealites killed and made slaves in Old Testament, to their victims especially their children, do you think they see yahweh and israelites as moral people?

Do you think the parents of the kids elisha killed, will consider elisha a moral person?
Some people even try to twist it that they are “grown men” like it makes it better to kill people for mocking you.
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 6:57pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
You seem to be justifying pedophilia by the Greeks, thus I ask you


Should the standard of morality be universal or subjective to every society and person?
The word pedophilia was coined by the greeks and this is what they use it for.
To those doing pedophilia, how is it affecting you PERSONALLY?

There’s no universal anything, is there a universal form of eating?
The standard of morality in a society is set up by people in that society through subjective discussions.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 6:52pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
If the morality of pedophilia is subject to interpretation of the Greeks, to you is pedophilia immoral?

Should the standard of morality be universal or subjective to every society and person?
The origin of the word “pedophilia” comes from greeks and it’s used in Paideia (also spelled paedeia) (/paɪˈdeɪə/; Greek: παιδεία) referred to the rearing and education of the ideal member of the ancient Greek polis or state.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paideia
Get yourself some education.

What do you mean by “morality of pedophilia”?
Is there “morality of heterosexuals”huh
Pedophilia is neither moral or immoral, our thinking makes it so.

The standard of morality in a society is set up by people in that society through subjective discussions.

To those doing pedophilia, how is it affecting you PERSONALLY?

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 5:29pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
You are just confirming that subjective morality is nonsense!

Thanks
This was in ancient greece, where what you call “Pedophilia” was common and not seen immoral.
The term “pedophilia” was not even used in a derogatory way that we are using now.
Change is CONSTANT!

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 5:28pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
You are just confirming that subjective morality is nonsense!

Thanks
you trying to determine for others what is moral or not is the highest form of immorality.

Who do you think you are with your standard of morality?

You are welcome and remember do unto others as you would have them do unto you and read Matthew, chapter 7, verse 5.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 5:22pm On Jul 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
***Yawn ***

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is The Only Religion Of Peace by Maynman: 4:18pm On Jul 14, 2023
Queenttoast01:
When there is life, there is hope. Stay motivated!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0uAXMQeWpSEZEA6yG8xJBEBNfZspCeNseFXGHrzFkSTfeEi3GKnRn429rrz7dKjwsl&id=100063996131375&mibextid=Nif5oz
Since there is life after death according to some theists, is the life not eternal so as the hope?
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by Maynman: 3:32pm On Jul 14, 2023
Chronosvineberg:
Are you a school teacher?
I’m a teacher in this play.
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 3:30pm On Jul 14, 2023
TenQ:
How can anything be designated as moral when it is dependent on the society to which you belong.

Is Cannibalism is okay if my society agree with it?

Is Beastiality is okay if my society agree with it?

What is wrong with Pedophilia if my society agree with it?

What can be wrong with murder if my society agree with it?
Who is the person doing the “designation”?
On whose “designation” is this person moral?
Is the person doing the “designation” living inside the society?

Your society doesn’t agree with all you said NOW, there was a time society agreed to it through subjective discussions.
If you were in that time you will also agree to it.
I told you to go and read history from shamanism age, agrarian age and the technology age you enjoy now.

If someone tells you to do this now you will call it immoral, during those days it was moral and sacred.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
Should the standard of morality be universal or subjective to every society?
Every society should have their own custom.
You can’t use your own society “standard” to judge other society and vice versa, that’s how genocide start ask hitler.

Even yorubas don’t have the same custom as fulani within just nigeria alone ooo, but you want to force your opinion that you read in a book as “universal”.

You are reading a JEWISH BOOK WITH JEWISH CHARACTERS, JEWISH TRADITION, JEWISH CUSTOM.

When moses went to receive the 10 commandments in the Jewish book, which SOCIETY was it for? The Egyptians? Moabites? Babylonians? Or israelites?

Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by Maynman: 8:53am On Jul 14, 2023
Chronosvineberg:
Na still me be the devil na
You na holy ghost
What do you understand by holy and ghost?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Some Men Of God Sleeping With Other People's Wife. by Maynman:
Kobojunkie:
Your mogs and pastors are all ordinary men majority of whom are not even born-again and don't even understand the Truth of Jesus Christ. undecided
You are no more ordinary than them, and the “truth” you think you understand from reading specially edited books conveying a particular DOCTRINE(Trinity) was formulated, debated and agreed by ordinary men(well, through the help of constantine) vested with their own interests.

It’s a pity.

Christianity Etc › Re: "Why Is Christianity Better Than Other Religions?" by Maynman: 3:03pm On Jul 13, 2023
“Why Is Christianity Better Than Other Religions?”
Written by a Christian.

OLAADEGBU, The joke writes itself.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
It is still saying that morality as defined by humans will always be subjective even though morality requires absolute standard of wrong or right
And, you trying to determine for others what is moral or not is the highest form of immorality, because you read a book and think you know the “absolute standard of wrong or right”, only extremists think like this.

If it’s so wrong then tell your god to do something, don’t be like some muslim suicide bombers, why are you fighting for your god?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
It is still saying that morality as defined by humans will always be subjective even though morality requires absolute standard of wrong or right
That’s also subjective, “even though”, where did you read the requirements?😂

And morality is a human word that has specific definitions, your bible was written in pre existing languages.
You will have to coin another word for your egoism of wrong or right.

Morality means customs, in yoruba land prostrating for your elders is considered moral, but what exactly is “moral” in prostrating?
How does it signify respect on his own if not for what has been ATTACHED to it called CUSTOM.
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
You say Putin and Russian army are doing their job: but is their action moral?


To the Ukrainians is Putin Moral or Immoral?


By now, you will see that morality will always be subjective with respect to us humans. Unfortunately, morality should be absolute!
What is wrong is wrong irrespective of who is concerned or the planet you take it to
Does it matter to putin if Ukraines call him moral or not?
Do you think it matters to a Christian if a ogun worshipper calls him moral or not?
Do you think it is moral to determine who is moral or not based on your own opinions?

The people that the isrealites killed and made slaves in Old Testament, to their victims especially their children, do you think they see yahweh and israelites as moral people?

Do you think the parents of the kids elisha killed, will consider elisha a moral person?
Some people even try to twist it that they are “grown men” like it makes it better to kill people for mocking you.

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 2:20pm On Jul 13, 2023
TenQ:
An adult human has two testes that produces spermatozoa and zero ovary : biology says this is a MAN

Some humans by Gender Reassignment says this is a WOMAN or even REPTILIAN!

Is Bob Risky a man or a woman?
He is doing EVERYTHING to present himself as a Woman: against BIOLOGY!
Show me where “biology” said this “ An adult human has two testes that produces spermatozoa and zero ovary : biology says this is a MAN”

And even if “biology” said it and so?
How does bobrisky presenting itself as a woman bother you?
Is bobriskry calling you a woman? How exactly is it affecting you PERSONALLY?

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman:
TenQ:
Says you.

Why do you think humans universally don't go about stark naked? They may be as skimpy dressed as possible but never naked like animals: Why?

Why do you think people have conscience and why do you think that people can kill their conscience?


Morality is ingrained in every human as their conscience. The society could then make or break this conscience to adopt a new normal.
Humans have gone STARKED NAKED more than they have wores clothes, why do you think humans for 90000 years were universally naked?
Some humans still go stark naked till today, apart from society shame, what is wrong in going naked in itself?
Morality/Customs is always changing.

Conscience is subjective, Do you think the isrealites that killed other tribes will have their conscience fighting them? they were fighting for yahweh.
Do you think a muslim bombing the “infedels” will have conscience of what he is doing is bad, or is it only bad from my perception?
Do you think osama bin laden is sorry for what he did? In some people perception he is an hero
He was fighting for his nation!

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Best Way To Raise My Kids As Atheists? by Maynman: 2:04pm On Jul 13, 2023
TenQ:
Let's assume (for the sake of arguments) that there is a Highest SOURCE.
But Humans can also have other Sources different from this that they consider as their own highest source.
Eg. Atheists highest source is themselves!

Therefore if EVERYONE takes their Laws from the highest source alone, there would be no problem. But as soon as we adopt other sources apart from this highest source, we arrive at the problem you just showed
You are contradicting yourself.
Why can’t we adopt other HIGHEST sources, we have thousands of gods apart from Yahweh.

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