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OLAADEGBU:
"For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born." – 1 Corinthians 15:3-8

Look at the creed:

For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures

So we know that the earliest Christians believed he died and that he was buried

And we know that they think he was buried. Note that this doesn't say in a tomb: it could be a tomb, it could be a common grave (not unreasonable for a crucified criminal in 1st century Palestine). There's no mention of the Empty Tomb until Mark, 30-40 years after Jesus' death.

that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

We know that they believe he was "raised" on the third day. Note that this doesn't say bodily. There is significant evidence that there was a debate in the early Christian community about whether or not Jesus was raised bodily or spiritually. Look at how the Gospels embellish the "bodily resurrection" side as time goes on, as if they were written to bolster one side in a debate: in Mark, there's no discussion of post- Resurrection appearances, in Matthew, the appearances could easily be seen as either physical or non-physical, all the way to Jesus eating fish in Luke and Thomas thrusting his hands into Jesus' bodily wounds in John.

and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

And we know that the earliest Christians believed that he appeared to people after his death. Again note, though, that it doesn't say bodily appearances. In fact, as Paul includes his own decidedly non-physical post- Resurrection experience in this list, it's not unreasonable to ask if the other appearances were the same way.

OLAADEGBU:
Paul's creed dates less than 3 years after the death of Jesus Christ

The creed that Paul cites in 1 Corinthians 15 has been dated by even the most skeptical atheist scholars as having originated less than 3 years after the death of Jesus. This means that the Gospel existed before anything had been written down by Paul or the disciples, meaning it wasn't invented by them or the early church.

http://reasonsforjesus.com/pauls-creed-dates-less-than-3-years-after-death-of-jesus/

So this jesus really died?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you pro-choice or pro-life?

Is your god omniscience?

Does a mosquito have a life?

OLAADEGBU:
Why are you not a murderer if you're not already one?

I’m not a Murderer like your creator.

Kobojunkie:
Is God your Father? God said His Sons are those who are righteous in His sight. So, are you holy, and righteous?

How do you know you are righteous in HIS sight?
You thinking you are doesn’t mean he thinks so

OLAADEGBU:
Maybe you want to help jaephoenix out to answer the question he seems to be struggling to answer:

How do you account for the laws of morality in your evolution worldview?

The only reason you’re not a Murderer is because you read it in a book?

People think karma means doing good then someone will do you good, or doing evil then evil will befall you.

If you help someone and that person praises and gives thanks to you, don’t you feel inner happiness?
You’ve already reaped it instantly!

OLAADEGBU:
What part of the OP is that?

The part that says you are a yahweh worshipper

OLAADEGBU:
What part of the OP are you referring to?

Tiger Nuts are small root vegetables that comprised 80% of our Paleo ancestors' diet around 2 million years ago.

Drinking my tigernuts

Ray Kurzweil, Google's Director of Engineering, is a well-known futurist with a high-hitting track record for accurate predictions. Of his 147 predictions since the 1990s, Kurzweil claims an 86 percent accuracy rate. At the SXSW Conference in Austin, Texas, Kurzweil made yet another prediction: the technological singularity will happen sometime in the next 30 years.
In a communication to Futurism, Kurzweil states:
2029 is the consistent date I have predicted for when an AI will pass a valid Turing test and therefore achieve human levels of intelligence. I have set the date 2045 for the 'Singularity' which is when we will multiply our effective intelligence a billion fold by merging with the intelligence we have created.
“By 2029, computers will have human-level intelligence,” Kurzweil said in an interview with SXSW…
https://futurism.com/kurzweil-claims-that-the-singularity-will-happen-by-2045

The Concept of Eternity has long captivated human imagination. The idea of living forever has been explored in Literature, Philosophy, and Religion throughout history.
However, as the oldest story of Humanity, "The Epic of Gilgamesh," reveals, the desire for Eternal Life can be seen as a form of Greed.

King Gilgamesh, the protagonist of the Epic, is a powerful and arrogant ruler who is feared and respected by his subjects. However, when his best friend Enkidu dies, Gilgamesh is forced to confront his own mortality. Faced with the prospect of death, he embarks on a quest for Eternal Life. Gilgamesh's journey takes him to the ends of the earth, where he encounters various obstacles and challenges. Eventually, he realizes that his quest for Eternity is futile and that he must accept his own mortality.

The story of Gilgamesh illustrates the danger of greed and the desire for Eternal Life. Gilgamesh's obsession with Immortality blinds him to the beauty of life and the importance of cherishing the time we have. His quest for Eternal Life is ultimately a futile one, and he comes to understand that death is an inevitable part of the human experience.

The desire for Eternal Life can be seen as a form of Greed because it is a desire for more than what is natural and necessary. It is a desire to extend our existence beyond its natural limits and to avoid the inevitability of death. While it is natural to want to extend our lives and to enjoy the things we love for as long as possible, the desire for eternal life can become an obsession that leads to a neglect of our responsibilities and a disregard for others.

Furthermore, the concept of Eternal Life raises important questions about the meaning and purpose of life. If we were to live forever, what would we do with all that time? Would life lose its value if it were never-ending? How would we find meaning and purpose in an existence that never ends? These are challenging questions that require careful consideration.

As Robert Heinlein notes, "Millions who yearn for Eternity don't know what to do with themselves Sunday afternoons.”

The desire for Eternal Life is often fueled by a fear of death, but it is important to remember that death is a natural part of life. Instead of obsessing over the desire for eternal life, we should focus on living our lives to the fullest and cherishing the time we have with our families, friends and making the most of the time we have. While the concept of Eternal Life may seem attractive, it is important to recognize the potential downsides of such an existence.

It seems to me that those who desire to live forever have not thoroughly considered the implications of such an existence.
How many times can one express gratitude and Praise to a Deity for avoiding damnation/hell before the significance of it all begins to fade?

Keep deceiving yourself, You’ll still read it and choke on it. Unfortunate child!

FxMasterz:
Maynman, I'm sure you're the one who has given me the two mentions I'm seeing as attached in the image below. I would never read them. They'll soon be buried deeply in an ocean of mentions.

Accursed child. He can't verify claims from elderly people around him since he doesn't have elders. Those who don't have elders at home can't respect elders outside. Stupid idiot of a child. Very useless boy. I'll not read any mention from any ragtag who calls himself maynman.

Doomed child, he is making false claims he can’t defend and thinks we are worthless liars like his elders he has at home.
Senseless pig. Very worthless slave.
Next time you will think well before lying on nairaland, not everyone is worthless like your elders at home, you this good for nothing animal that calls himself FxMasterz.

FxMasterz:
How I wish I can block you right now if Nairaland had such buttons. You're extremely rude!!

Never mention me again okay? Did I insult you or your elders for you to start insulting me and my elders this way? You're very stupid!!

I'll ignore you from henceforth. You're not worth replying. I was replying you thinking you have sense. Senseless idiot. Accursed child!!

You are the rude one here that can’t take what you dish out.

I already told you not to quote me again, okay?
Why bring my elders into the discussion?
What do you mean by “if i have elders at home”?
You are a nonentity..

You already said “ignored” like an hour ago and here you are. You can’t take what you dish out. A good for nothing unfortunate anima. Doomed child!!!!

FxMasterz:
The more the reason why they can be your verifiable source for debunking my claims.

They can only debunk a claim using its OWN evidence provided.

Tell your elders to provide evidences or they are all Talk Talk?

FxMasterz:
If your elders are not worthless liars, you should be glad to hear the truth from them. Why are you afraid to ask?

There’s no “truth” anywhere to ask.
If your own elders are not worthless liars they should be able to provide evidence to their claims.
Why are you afraid to ask your elders for evidence?

FxMasterz:
I've given you evidence - your elders.

I don’t have worthless liars as elders, you might have.

You have no evidence to your claims, you’re empty.

FxMasterz:
That's sounding like a kindergarten poem.

Your evidences are the all around you as long as you have elders. Those elders around you are my evidence.

It happens when you try to deceive people with kindergarten lies.

My elders are not worthless liars, if the story is that popular and a historical fact it will be online.

You have no evidence to your claims, you are a liar and empty!

FxMasterz:
That I did not deny.

I said come over.

Reasonable people provide evidences to their claims.

Start from the beginning and start putting your money where your mouth is, talk is cheap.

FxMasterz:
If you cannot come over, follow my suggestions to verify the claim.

Reasonable people provide evidences to their claims. You verify a claim using the evidence provided

FxMasterz:
If you need the evidence, then come over to me. I'll take you to the evidence.

Reasonable people provide evidences to their claims.

FxMasterz:
I didn't tell you to go and find evidence for me. Did I?

Is it wrong for you to be told to verify a claim?

You made a claim provide evidence to it.

You verify a claim using the evidence provided!

FxMasterz:
I never got angry until you turned abusive.

I told you exactly what to do to find evidence, you refused but resorted to name-calling.

Would you please get off my mention!!!!

How did i turn abusive, i gave you exactly what you gave me.

How can i go and find evidence to your OWN claims, are you thinking?
Reasonable people provide evidences to their OWN claims.
I only told you to provide evidence but it seems that got you angry.

Now please stop quoting me!!!!!!

FxMasterz:
A dullard is that coward who couldn't take up a challenge but keeps commending himself for being intelligent.

Would you please get off my mention!!

A dullard is a desperate liar that can’t prove his false claims and get angry when we ask for it. Common sense requires you should walk your talk and provide evidence if you are not a empty barrel.

Please Stop quoting me too!

FxMasterz:
I don't expect you to say anything better than this. I can already measure your IQ. And, everyone's reading already knows how you reason.

Just get off my mention.

All this ranting all because you should post evidence to your claims?
Why are all your stories not on the internet. No references for any of them.
See this dullard talking about measuring an IQ, everyone reading already knows you are a good for nothing liar.
Empty barrel with nothing but false claims.

Stop lying.

FxMasterz:
I have an idea to use Russian language to fish out that news. Maybe it's available only in Russian language online.

Till then, you can Keep shouting and keep telling the world about your ailments.

Chronic desperate liar like your god.

FxMasterz:
If the story was concocted, I would not boldly direct you to create a front page worthy thread on it. Is this how you reason?

If the story is not concocted why not provide evidence for it.
Do you reason at all?

FxMasterz:
Ashamed of telling you the truth?

Louder!! Since it .makes you feel good

The “truth” that you tell yourself in delusion, yahweh worshipper.

desperate Liar since that’s what you are.!!!

Concocting stories thinking we are also braindead lol

FxMasterz:
Louder!!. Why are you stopping? I expect you to keep shouting it. I'm happy it makes you feel good.

desperate Liar!!!

You should be ashamed of yourself, desperately lying for his deity, yahweh.

FxMasterz:
Louder!!

desperate Liar!!!

From “ignored” to this, i must have hit a nerve

FxMasterz:
Louder!!

desperate Liar!!!

FxMasterz:
That doesn't make me one.

So louder!

Okay, desperate Liar.

FxMasterz:
Shout it louder.

It changes nothing.

okay, desperate liar