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TenQ:
LOL!!
Moved!!!

Not only move, I also trabaye, any more?

TenQ:
So said the mad man on the market road. His thick glasses is his evidence. People call him prof, because he claims to know everything!

Weak. You got a better one?

TenQ:
Okay, I hear you!
What then is the name of his father?
Every other gods want to become Elohim?
Only you can comprehend your misconceptions!

Can’t you understand simple thing? Elohim is only a father of gods in Hebrew Bible.
Elohim original meaning is a title and it means gods.

You can’t understand because you lack the knowledge.

TenQ:
Okay, I hear you!
What then is the name of his father?
Every other gods want to become Elohim?
Only you can comprehend your misconceptions!

You are welcome.

Why are you dodging, you don’t remember again?
How do you say you love “god” and you are comfortable lying this much.

TenQ:
You are not being coherent at all



So, Yahweh rebelled against Elohim yet He want to attain to the rank of Elohim!?

[/b]Elohim is a RANK deities strive to Achieve and then the Same Elohim is a Father!?[b]

I'm sure you dont make sense even to yourself!

You are ignorant. Yes Yahweh rebelled against Elohim, his father, Yahweh is yaldaboath the head of satans in HEBREW BIBLE.
Elohim is father of Yahweh in HEBREW BIBLE. Elohim according to the ORIGIN of the NAME means gods.
In HEBREW BIBLE, the word “El” was altered to mean a deity(god) but it means deities(gods)

Not my fault you are finding it hard to comprehend.

TenQ:
So, how then can Elohim be the father of other deities?

In Hebrew Bible They are referred to as his sons and lords. Deity and gods mean same thing, so Elohim(title) is a rank gods fight to reach.

Kobojunkie:
1. God cares but I am afraid not in the way you have been told.

2. Everyone of us is born to die. From the day you are born, it is expected that you will die one day with no guarantees given you that it will happen at any particular time or after your parents. So it is human delusion to expect that children must die before their parents.

3. This existence ceased to be classified as "good" when God cursed Man after the fall - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 . As a result, the only way to experience God's Kind of "good" is through Jesus Christ. All other forms of "good" are those born of our human delusions which serve us only for as long as the delusions holds.

God is a title not a person and if he/she cursed what he created, if he was perfect he would have created man, perfect.

TenQ:
Elohim means the deity: and it is used for any god.

All the pagan god's referred to in the scriptures below are referred to as Elohim!
Exodus 12:12; 23:24; Leviticus 19:4

Elohim means the god but it’s supposed to mean “gods” and It is used for any deity.

AntiChristian:
Don't try to deviate from your Lies! I will hold you by the balls here.

LAA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH is the Shahadah!

LAA is negation (No)

ILAHA is (something worshipped i.e. a Deity)

ILLAH is exception ( Except)

Allah!

Where did you see LAHA as Deity O blatant liar?

You are saying absolutely rubbish, you got this from your reputable Arabic dictionary?
Your religion is not straightforward, see how you are blatantly lying.

TenQ:
Of course God (Elohim) is a title : the question is Which Deity?
Yahweh or something/someone else!

Elohim is the father of Yahweh. Elohim has many sons like Yahweh.

AntiChristian:
AL-ILLAHA cannot be abbreviated as ALLAH!

Deity is ILLAHA not Laha!

Keep playing yourself.

TenQ:
El or Al is a semitic prefix like "the"
Laha or Loha si a semitic name for "deity"

Al lah mean "the deity"
it is the same as in Hebrew "El loha" singular form ("El lohim" plural form): the mean the same thing "the deity or the god"!

It is just a title NOT a name and it can be used for any deity including God the creator.

Yea it is a title,but it’s origin is far beyond Semitic, “God” too is a title. So I don’t understand what you mean by “God, the creator”.
Allah and EL means “the god” or “gods”. So you can’t use it again for “God”. How many titles inside a title?

43Ronin:
Lol guy you are highly ignorant. What language was the new testament originally written in? And what language was the old testament originally written in?
You are even shooting yourself in the leg. If the Greek translation of Yeshua is iesous why can't and shouldn't the English translate to Jesus, and why/shouldn't the igbo translate to a name they understand? So translation is ur issue? Bro, you are still surface

How many years after “Jesus” died did they create New Testament?
Is Jesus a Latin, Greek or a Jew? What was “Jesus” primary language when he was alive in the myth. In the earliest translation of KJV Bible it was written as “lesous”. It was changed by the Catholic
Jesus = Yeshus

Jesua = Yeshua.

Bro you know nothing, see you defending “Jesus” vigorously now, exposed !

43Ronin:
Why will the "Hebrew" bible mention Jesus? Is Jesus a Hebrew word? Don't you know that the word Jesus is possible because of the translation from Greek to English. Now Yehosua, Yeshua, iesus, iesous. All mean the same thing but with various translations though some might not be exactly accurate. And the distinction between Yeshua and Jesus is because the Old testament is/was first written in Hebrew, hence the translation of Yeshoshua to English meant joshua. You get? I could go on and on about translation but the name is not what matters most it's the person or his message. Or are you saying that Jesus is not Yeshua or that Jesus does not exist or that Jesus is different from yeshua what exactly is your point. Guyyyy, ah ah.. you are now bringing translation semantics

Arrant nonsense. After how many years “Jesus” died did they create New Testament?

was “Jesus” not a Jew? Why is “Jesus” a Jew man given a Latin name?
Olodo, “ Jesus” is a Latin word that was created by mistranslation.
Was the New Testament written in Latin? Why is the New Testament creating a new name then?

If they wanted to translate iesous to English, it will be Joshua and not “Jesus”!
The translation to Joshua to yeshua has to do with the meaning of the word. Stop disgracing yourself.

43Ronin:
Lol u don't believe in story books but you mentioned watchers and yaldaboath from another "story book" with all pleasure and pride. Did you think that mentioning those things will make u seem smart? Or that nobody will know what you are talking about?You said the Catholic church invented jesus(yeshua) but when I told you that christianity(not in its organised form) predated the organised Catholic church you changed to Catholic not Catholic church as if both don't mean the same thing. Like I said tread carefully, you are sounding narcissistic. Good bye. My night shift just about to start.

If we are to translate yeshua directly from Hebrew to Greek, it means IESOUS, not the Greek “Jesus” you talk about. Guess who changed the name from IESOUS to Jesus?

43Ronin:
Lol u don't believe in story books but you mentioned watchers and yaldaboath from another "story book" with all pleasure and pride. Did you think that mentioning those things will make u seem smart? Or that nobody will know what you are talking about?You said the Catholic church invented jesus(yeshua) but when I told you that christianity(not in its organised form) predated the organised Catholic church you changed to Catholic not Catholic church as if both don't mean the same thing. Like I said tread carefully, you are sounding narcissistic. Good bye. My night shift just about to start.

Of course watchers and yaldaboath are from story books. What do you mean with pleasure and pride? You are doing too much, and going out of your script
You lie, show me where I said “Catholic Church” invented Jesus, if you don’t know what Catholic means it’s your ignorance not me.

Olodo, joshua also means yeshua. And there’s no where in the Hebrew Bible where they mentioned “Jesus” it’s only found in Christian Bible complied by Catholic through canonization like the Catholic epistles.

Advise yourself, hypocrite, it was written all over you from the start. Looking for brothers in gnosis indeed, no shame. Lying blatantly to promote your deity.

43Ronin:
Were you a cattle before that you are proud of being human? You have to believe in something. Its either you believe there is no god, or you belive that we were made by Extraterrestrials (whom our ancestors called gods) or you believe in religion. Why are you afraid to say which side you stand on? Your case seems like an overdose of knowledge that eventually leads narcissism. Tread carefully.

But didn’t we say earlier that “god” is a title?
Oooh you mean which religion I believe in, earlier didn’t we agree that we are not talking from THEOlogical standpoint?
And we can only believe opinions. We believe opinions everyday but we can’t know it.
I don’t know why you are forcing sides on me?

43Ronin:
It's a very simple question bro. You do not need to be running around in circles avoiding questions with questions. Be proud of who you are. Atheist, agnostic, gnostic etc.

I’m a human being and I’m proud of that. It’s a simple question too, maybe you don’t know the origin of the word “belief” so go look it up.
It’s like me asking you which Cartoon do you believe in?

43Ronin:
What is ur belief oga? Story book or not

Belief comes from DOXA, oga. Do you mean which story book I believe in?


“OrthoDOX”

43Ronin:
It annot be compared to anything or anyone because it's the source of all cosmic consciousness in the multiverse and predates time.
You have been asking me questions but havent answered any. What do you believe in?

Then don’t call it “God” anymore.
Believe in as how? Do you mean which story book do I believe in?

43Ronin:
It's a title because my God has no name. Anything that has name was named by something or someone preceeding it. Its not man or archons that needs a name before it emanates to those who seek it.

Archons are found in myth. Is this your “God” also one?

43Ronin:
It's a title because my God has no name. Anything that has name was named by something or someone preceeding it.

If it has no name how did you know it is your “God” or it’s even a “God”?
Do you know its characteristics to compare?

43Ronin:
Lol. You have responded well. I was trying to test you. Am glad to meet you. I have been looking for brodas & sisters who just like me came into gnosis but I have found none. Its been difficult bro cos my family is into main street christianty & don't understand my changes like refusing to go to church etc.When I say things like God cannot be jealous or angry because he is the totality of knowledge and cannot make mistake or test man (because he already knows the outcome). I get criticised left, right and center. I cannot even mention things like yaldaboath or pistis sophia to them, the small one wey I sabi I have been ostracised. Ordinarily telling them that God cannot send someone to die for sin because sin is a result of inadequate knowledge.... bros I don weak I o fit talk pass like this. I don really suffer sha but I will not stop. I M currently looking for the essenes right now.

Bro, which “God” are you talking about?
God is a title not a person.

43Ronin:
Lol. The Catholic church only came into existence 350 AD. Gnosis and gnostics predate organised christianity. Ok what's ur sect or religion. Who or what do you worship. What is its name?

Catholic Church is different from Catholic.
If you know what gnosis is, you won’t relate it to Christianity, sect or religion, worship, funny names, that’s why I said you shouldn’t look at it from THEOlogical standpoint.

What do you understand by gnosis?

43Ronin:
Theology? Lol. Theology will not teach you what I know . Apologies if I offended, all I was saying is that one has to be careful with gnosis in order not to be proud of it.
Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man.
Remember it's pride that made the demiurge(yaldaboth) full of errors.

Jesus said what the Catholic wanted him to say.
If people can be proud of their fellow humans they call gods(Elohim, yahweh(yaldaboath), Zeus, Odin , Allah etc, I can also be proud of Gnosis.

“Zechariah 9 speaks of a time when a ruling king (Jesus never ruled) exists in a time of peace when war "is no more."

"And I will cut off the chariots from Ephraim, and the horses from Jerusalem; and the bow of war shall be cut off. And he shall speak peace to the nations, and his rule shall be from the sea to the west and from the river to the ends of the earth." Z'charyah / Zechariah 9:10.”

https://nojesus4jews.weebly.com/365-prophecies/333-zechariah-99agreeted-with-rejoicing-in-jerusalem-matthew-218-10

The JW above is just Contradicting himself, but go on. It seems those people didn’t need anyone to be able to recognize the famous “Jesus”.

Kobojunkie:
Religion is ofcourse a man-made institution by which men who pretend themselves called of God exert powers and control over that which other men believe of God and the things of God.

God is a title not a person, that fact is too hard for you to stomach? It doesn’t suit your agenda?

Allah is a god, Yahweh is a god, Zeus is a god.
You don’t even know the name of your deity.
Everything you know about Jesus and God is gotten inside the Bible, yet here you are castigating religion. Better go and learn “God” and “Jesus” history, if you truly love them as you pseudo claim, you’ll be eager to know them more.