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It was tertullian that called them “chrestian” in Antioch, it was a demeaning name during that period.

43Ronin:
If you know the truth why don't you help people with it. Being proud about gnosis will not lead you to the pleroma, at best reincarnation.

You don’t know what you speak of, do diligence in reading about it extensively and not from a THEOlogical standpoint.

To answer that question sufficiently, just look up on isiah 53:10, but here is the Trick don’t use any English VERSION, use the Hebrew Bible.
If you contrast it with the VERSIONS of the Bible y’all will see the difference.


“Jesus” was never crushed by disease, never had children, and most especially did not have a long life. So how can the next lines “after he [God’s servant] has suffered…” refer to Jesus?

This is one of the reasons, Judaism reject Greek “Jesus”.

Isaiah 52:13–53:12 is one of the so-called Servant Songs written by Deutero-Isaiah during the Babylonian Exile. Of course, it reflects the suffering of the Jews torn away from their homeland and living in Exile, and should be interpreted as such. However, Christians have seen the Servant Song as a prophecy of Jesus.

The phrase, “My servant,” presents a problem for Christianity Trinity: servant and master are two separate entities.
A servant by definition is always in an inferior position to his master.

Christians have a faulty understanding of what Tanach says because they rely on a corrupted & manipulated KJV or NIV mistranslation rather than the original Hebrew!!!! Being that they learn it in a corrupted & manipilated translation they can not properly understand it!!!

Kobojunkie:
So, from that passage in Isaiah, you expected the one God promised to send would literally be named "Emmanuel" instead of Jesus Christ, is that what you are insinuating?

2. Well, the way i read from that verse in Isaiah myself is, rather than making reference to God sending an man literally named "Emmanuel", Isaiah instead spoke of the one to come being of God Himself .I.e. "God with us", which is who Jesus Christ turned out to be.

But the verse in Isaiah which you refer you here has nothing to do with what I had been discussing up to this point since I have been instead referring instead to God's message through His Prophets that He would send a new Covenant and a redeemer for Israel.

During that period in the verse, Isaiah wife was pregnant. Guess the name of the child ?
That’s why Judaism reject your Greek “Jesus”.
Remember, Christianity evolved from Judaism, so you can now see the “word of God” you believe in is of Roman Catholic origin.

Kobojunkie:
So, from that passage in Isaiah, you expected the one God promised to send would literally be named "Emmanuel" instead of Jesus Christ, is that what you are insinuating?

2. Well, the way i read from that verse in Isaiah myself is, rather than making reference to God sending an man literally named "Emmanuel", Isaiah instead spoke of the one to come being of God Himself .I.e. "God with us", which is who Jesus Christ turned out to be.

But the verse in Isaiah which you refer you here has nothing to do with what I had been discussing up to this point since I have been instead referring instead to God's message through His Prophets that He would send a new Covenant and a redeemer for Israel.

Yawn. Better learn. Christianity comes from Judaism. They have the original Bible with them not the versions you have.

Kobojunkie:
And recall my response to you....

I don't understand understand your question?

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God said He would send from among them a redeemer and a New Law giver, and Jesus Christ happens to be the one who God sent them. Why are you asking me whether the Jews say the same or not?

Did God, this anywhere in scripture, suggest that it mattered whether the Jews accepted the one He sent to them from among their brethren, or not?

“God” will send them Emmanuel not Jesus, Judaism explicitly explain this verse, you are only quoting it how orthodox Christianity wants you to.
Christianity comes from Judaism..

AntiChristian:
What doesn't make sense is your ignorance particularly when you claim you were a Muslim. Forgive me if i sound abusive somehow. Where does it say all your devotions has no use? Even the good works of a disbeliever will be rewarded on earth not to talk of that of a believer. I have told you several times you were extremely ignorant back then so stop mentioning it.

1. Allah is not a Monster. 2. You can call Jehovah a Monster by creating disaster in Isaiah 45:7. The decrees will make you do what will lead you to your destination. For example, your ignorance has lead you out of Islam to embrace the JW.

You don't have control of your birth nor will you have of your death!
But your destiny is sure!
Everything that will happen, Allah knows and has written down!

You are arguing with a fallen watcher of yaldaboath, lol.

Kobojunkie:
I don't understand understand your question?

Did God state somewhere in scripture that the Jews first had to agree to His decrees before He handed it down to them to them as He saw fit?

Or course, you are ignorant, you don’t know that Christianity evolve from Judaism.
Who is the father of Judaism? When “Jesus” was alive in the myth he was a Judaist. I can only wonder why a Jew is bearing a Greek name.

In some myths, Sophia is the syzygy of Christ(Logos).

Gnostic means Wisdom. Sophia. Sophus. PhiloSOPHUS.

Not only were they the first Homo Sapiens.
They were the First Homo Genus.

Earth, The Land of the Black Headed People.

Not only did they Create Civilization, they were the First Humans.

“Black headed People” created Civilization.

They created The first identified industry, Oldowan industry.

Bwahahahah

Lovers of arguments are also called misosopher. Bwahahahah

budaatum:
This desperate?

Okay Bud. Bwahahahah

Some people are lover of arguments. Why so desperate?

Desperate Bud. Bwahahahah I wish you’ll listen to your own advice, and read to learn properly not to argue.

budaatum:
I don't blame you for the gap in your knowledge, Maynman. It's not as if Ancient Egypt is on the Nigerian school curriculum.

Yawn, bwahahahah.

Stop lying Bud.

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budaatum:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs


What are gnostics?

Stop lying bud.

budaatum:
Remember those Egyptian priests who kept their reading secret so reading it was forgotten?

What are gnostics?

Stop lying Bud.

budaatum:
What are gnostics?

What are mystics?

My bud!

AntiChristian:


I can't just but laugh at your misery!

I worship Allah and not a stone on earth!

It is proven in the Quran and Sunnah (prophetic teachings) and by the consensus (ijma’) of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah (global Islamic nation) that Allah is above His heavens over His Throne (as befits His Majesty), and that He is the Exalted, Most High. He is above all things, and there is nothing that is above Him. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allah, it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six days. Then He rose over (istawa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Wali (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?” [32:4]

“Surely, your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then rose over (istawa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things.” [10:3]

“To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allah unless and until they are followed by good deeds).” [35:10]

“He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him).” [57:3]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “You are the Most High and there is nothing above You…”





Your own Google god can reside anywhere but we don't know it.
Sai Anjima!

And I’m laughing at your brainwashing and foolishness.
Allah is a title not a person, the stone in kaaba is your Allah.

you are yet to Show me the Reputable Arabic dictionary you read that said Allah is an etymology of an Arabic word.
Or did you lied and didn’t see it in any etymology,
you had to lie to save your stone god face.



Your own stone god is not mobile, he resides only inside Kaaba.

Gnostics.

Ken4Christ:
They are the number one agent of darkness on earth today. They deny virtually every truth in the Bible. It shall never be well with Russell who brainwashed you all. He is already in hell suffering severe punishment. And you will join him if you don't repent.

It’s you that’s been brainwashed. The first English Bible was created by who? A Jehovah witness.
Which VERSION of the English Bible are you using? You see the irony? You are using a version and you are talking about brainwashing bwahahahah.

The truth is the Jehovah witness knows the English Bible more than anyone, they created the version.

AntiChristian:
Mr. Google told you the stone in Ka'ba (not Kabbah) is our Allah right?

See your folly being exposed!

Also, you are yet to Show me the reputable Arabic dictionary you read that said Allah is an etymology of an Arabic word.

AntiChristian:
Mr. Google told you the stone in Ka'ba (not Kabbah) is our Allah right?

See your folly being exposed!

Is it your reputable Arabic dictionary or your stone god that told you it’s called ka’ba?

You are the one being exposed, show us the reputable Arabic dictionary where you saw “ka’ba

Dull Stone worshipper.

AntiChristian:
No be today you dey tell lies!


Na English word!


Keep waiting when you have your god Google to consult.

That’s what the Reputable Arabic dictionary told you?
Show us na or was it your god, a stone in kabbah that told you?

AntiChristian:
Mr. Google Al-Atheisty!

Give me the etymology of the Arabic word from a reputable Arabic dictionary not from Google as usual.

Before i was born OLUWA HAS BEEN USED so make i no use am for my Allah?

How does oluwa a Yoruba word and Allah a Semitic word relate? Why didn’t you call Allah, oduduwa ? Oduduwa too have been in use before you were born if that’s the logic you are using.