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Obafavour:
I understand ur problem it's confusion u only read but u don't understand the content.
Accepted god isn't a name but a title, the research u did that u found out that god isn't a name but a title u didn't see it there that when some the isrealites forbade their material god they gave those material gods names to the almighty GOD cos that's is the only name given to a super being in their culture.
In yoruba when we want to call olorun we call him different names like eledua, eledumare, aditu and others like the isreal call GOD yaweh, elohim and others still refering to the same person.

“God” is a title and English word, do Jews speak English? You are the one that don’t know what you are saying.
What do Israelites call “god. They speak Hebrew not English.
Olorun is not “god”, olorun is olorun. “God” is not a Yoruba word.
This is eledumare and it has history , look it up and don’t be ignorant.

Obafavour:
Accepted, but if you understand the content you will see there are small gods and the almighty GOD.
God reveals himself to people, he does so in exactly the language concept and cultural context of those specific people, that was why god is a title in hebrew.
But futher we are to know there is difference between the almighty GOD and the material god of israel, only synonymous with name. God was given the name of israel material god because he reveal himself to them according to their cultural context, here in yoruba we call him eledumare, aditu and all other because he reveal himself according to our cultural context.
So i don't still the point u want to bring out or the reason why you believe GOD doesn't exist.

What context, you mean out of the gods your own is the right one? All of them claim it too.
Beside god is a title not a person.
Please don’t confuse Yahweh for eledumare, they are different.

TenQ:
I said:
الإله = al'iilah = Allah =the Deity

It cant be explained away.

Do you know that its the same reason you've not been able to tell me the name of the deity of Abdullah, the father of Mohammed.

I like the way you are researching this, hope you are also researching the origin of “Yahweh” ? Who is father and mother are in the Hebrew Bible?

43Ronin:
You are just a dude who stumbled upon information that you do not understand. You are very far from enlightenment (the reason why you are proud & insultive) A gnostic will not be proud, insulting or be talking with me about translation errors or wether Jesus is real or not. A gnostic already knows these things. What he focuses on is himself. Trying to conquer the flesh through knowledge, meditation and good works. We gnostics know Jesus is real because we have his footprints from when he was 12-30 in South east Asia all the way to China. We know his sages, who he is, the works he came for and why he was killed. Humble yourself because when u come across the knowledge some of us have u will realise that prude is emptiness, and one can only be truly enlightened when he has conquered pride and anger. The qualities of your favorite demiurge- yaldaboath
I will leave you with a few words from Jesus/yeshua
(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you

Olodo doesn’t even know what a Gnostic is. And he is one of the “Gnostic”. Which kind of blunder is that.


You are so desperate, who are the “we” that believe in Latin Jesus. Mention them.

A fool hates what he does not understand.

2 Corinthians 10:12
We do not dare to classify or compare ourselves with some who commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wise.

A Bigger fool hates what he does not understand, they are called misosopher.

Obafavour:
This is the link
https://bibleprophecyandtruth.com/creation/creationVSevolution?gClid
You can go through it to see more, nt sure of the first one.

You are sending me to a Bible and Christian link, we have other links who disprove your Bible too, use same standard for both.

Obafavour:
This should be the link
https://www.goshen.edu/bio/Biol410/bsspapers02/alyssa.htm
Just go through the link, so many scientist proofs that was later found wrong, only the bible stand on the same proof, but the scientists keep proving themselves wrong.
Only GOD knw what the scientists of the next generation and century will prove.

So many scientists have also disprove the Bible, that’s why I said you should use same standard. And God is a title not a person.

Obafavour:
You've us mocked us foolishly, i will still keep saying it, only those who are ignorance of the bible that say the trash you wrote up here.
Tribulations shall come but when we call on his name he shall save us.
When the isrealites wanted to fight their enemies they call on GOD and they won the battle, peter was emancipated from the prison when they interceeded for him, paul and silas was also emancipated from prison when they call on GOD, though died in persecution but they laugh last because they inherited the kingdom of GOD, which is the main goal of a christian.

Instead of you to answer simple questions you’ve resorted to rhetorics, and Ad Hominem.Seems you yourself don’t understand the Christian and Hebrew Bible you hold, I don’t blame you, you probably hold one of the hundred if not thousands of the English version we have.
God is a title not a person, sheep.

Obafavour:
Still twisting bible, and it's lack of knowledge and understanding about the word of GOD.
We shall all carry our cross, we shall suffer persecution and hatred from the world.
But what has been the christian watchword is that he has conquered the world meaning we shall laugh last by inheriting the kingdom of GOD, jesus has gone to prepare for us.
One of the hatred is the atheist hatred for christianity, jesus loves you u need to go back to him and stop this foolishness of yours, the bible says "only a fool will see all this things and say GOD doesn't exist.
I was on a site on how the foolish proofs of the scientists were proved wrong by a man, he compared evolution and the bible creation story, very interesting to read, if i get the link again i will send it to you.
Almighty GOD exist and he want you to repent from your destructive way.

You mean you compared the evolution story and Bible creation story and you use the same standard for 2 of them, it was the Bible that made more sense?

Obafavour:
Still twisting bible, and it's lack of knowledge and understanding about the word of GOD.
We shall all carry our cross, we shall suffer persecution and hatred from the world.
But what has been the christian watchword is that he has conquered the world meaning we shall laugh last by inheriting the kingdom of GOD, jesus has gone to prepare for us.
One of the hatred is the atheist hatred for christianity, jesus loves you u need to go back to him and stop this foolishness of yours, the bible says "only a fool will see all this things and say GOD doesn't exist.
I was on a site on how the foolish proofs of the scientists were proved wrong by a man, he compared evolution and the bible creation story, very interesting to read, if i get the link again i will send it to you.
Almighty GOD exist and he want you to repent from your destructive way.

Bwahahahah.
Are you saying even if you are a true follower and you call the name of Latin Jesus you will still suffer?

So Jesus subdued The power of darkness and all these is still happening to true followers in the world he subdued.
Where are all these sufferings coming from? The same power of darkness he subdue?
So I don’t think he subdue this world, as you said he went to prepare another place not this one.

43Ronin:
You are just a dude who stumbled upon information that you do not understand. You are very far from enlightenment (the reason why you are proud & insultive) A gnostic will not be proud, insulting or be talking with me about translation errors or wether Jesus is real or not. A gnostic already knows these things. What he focuses on is himself. Trying to conquer the flesh through knowledge, meditation and good works. We gnostics know Jesus is real because we have his footprints from when he was 12-30 in South east Asia all the way to China. We know his sages, who he is, the works he came for and why he was killed. Humble yourself because when u come across the knowledge some of us have u will realise that prude is emptiness, and one can only be truly enlightened when he has conquered pride and anger. The qualities of your favorite demiurge- yaldaboath
I will leave you with a few words from Jesus/yeshua
(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you

Olodo, you don’t know what Gnostic is.
Olodo God is a title not a person.
Olodo yahweh is the yaldaboath in the story book.
Olodo Bible was not written in English, research very well on who said those words it’s not “Latin Jesus” .
fake Gnostic. Bwahahahah.
Pretender!

You are so desperate, who are the “we” that believe in Latin Jesus. Mention them.

Christians and hypocrisy.

Obafavour:
Still don't understand the scripture.
The name of jesus is for everybody but it is only effective and can only work for his people.
Same jesus also said "not all those who call me by my name will i save" those are people who call him with false tongue.
That was why he said "i know my sheep and my sheep know me"
The name of jesus is so effective that it has performed so many miracles that i even witnessed and experience myself.

So you mean TRUE followers of Jesus Christ won’t and can’t suffer?

Obafavour:
The powers of the darkness.
No wonder they flee when they hear the name of jesus.
Because jesus said "whosoever call upon my name shall be saved"
"a name has been given to him which is above every other name that at the name of jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth and every tongue should confess that jesus is lord"

How effective is this “power of darkness” that he subdue in the world? Abi no be this world?

Obafavour:
Some don't just understand the scripture, overcoming the world doesn't mean we won't carry our cross, he even mentioned it.
What he meant was he has subdued the powers of the world, if we would endure to carry our cross we would have victory atlass by inheriting the kingdom of God as he did when he ascended into heaven.
That was why he said "for whosoever shall fight till end would be save"
Jesus words and preachings are parables, only the wise and spiritual minded will understand.

What and which power did he subdue in the world?

TenQ:
Do the Jews call their scripture "bible"?
You are thoroughly confusing yourself!

I think I should bring you back to where you went tangent. What did I tell you in the screenshot?

Yes olodo. They call it Hebrew Bible..
Olodo, Bible means collection of books.

Kobojunkie:
That depends a great deal on what you mean when you say they accepted Jesus Christ.

Also, a life in Jesus Christ is not a life devoid of suffering so let no man lie to you that it is this since Jesus Christ promised His followers will suffer much like He did, but that He has overcome the world on their behalf, they have nothing to worry about.

He overcame the world and his followers too will suffer in the world? Can a crowned prince suffer in the palace? Religion oooo.
The same way Latin Jesus suffer, his followers have even over suffered.
So which world did he overcome? Where is it?

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=112762315][/quote]Liar Liar Jehovah witness with no integrity. Lying shamelessly, what a yaldaboath you serve.

TenQ:
I can see that you don't have shame in lying like Muslims: in case you have forgotten, this was what you posted and NOT this recent attachment

Can you see Hebrew Bible or Christian Bible?

Yes I can see it. Are you dumb?
You are the one lying shamelessly now.

TenQ:
I can see that you don't have shame in lying like Muslims: in case you have forgotten, this was what you posted and NOT this recent attachment

Dullard, I’m saying same thing. Who uses the Hebrew Bible?
If you know what Hebrew Bible and Christian Bible is, you won’t be disgracing yourself like this.


How come you are so good in researching other religion but not yours?

TenQ:
You post a screenshot which correlated my post and you still have the gut to oppose it?

Do you understand English language at all?

Are you dumb? Who uses the Hebrew Bible? Do you know it is divided into parts?

TenQ:
You post a screenshot which correlated my post and you still have the gut to oppose it?

Do you understand English language at all?

Who uses the Hebrew Bible? Are you dumb? Is it not Judaism?
Only New Testament is for Christians, Judaism owns Old Testament and it’s not even Called that, it’s called tanakh or Hebrew Bible , and the Christians copied it to their book.

Kobojunkie:
Joseph heard directly from the Angel - Luke 1 vs 26 - 38.

No where said that in those verses.
Can you quote it out?

BroOlanrewaju:
RECEIVE IT IN THE NAME OF JESUS !!!!

You mean Roman Catholic Jesus?

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=112760723][/quote]Liar Liar Jehovah witness with no integrity. Lying shamelessly, what a god you serve.

MaxInDHouse:
I thought you wanted to pull down the sky instead of chatting politely and respectfully.
Don't you remember the way you often speak abusively of Jesus? So you can't even tolerate a single act of yours yet you've been speaking like you want to force everyone around you to become Muhammadans.
Well Allah spoke against the politicians and questioned their sanity over the ill-treatment they gave their subjects but since you have been abusive i won't quote it for you.
Go and ask your teachers where in the Qu'ran did Allah question the sanity of rulers!

If by this time tomorrow you still can't find it then i will quote the verse for everyone to see how arrogant and misinformed you're regarding the book (Qur'an)

So go now and ask your teachers before this time tomorrow.

Shameless liar, everyone knows who you are!

TenQ:
Unfortunately for you, the Tanakh is the old testament of the bible: it isn't someone else's scripture!

Of which Bible? The Hebrew Bible or Christian Bible?

Lol. We can see the unfortunate person.

43Ronin:
Bros, you have nothing new to offer and you keep dragging me back to translation discombobulation which I have clarified severally. When you have something new to offer like proof that Jesus is not real or a Catholic figure pls enlighten me. Also tell me why you belive in the watcher & yaldaboath stories but not the Jesus story book.

Olodo, Jesus is Latin name for male child, was New Testament written in Latin? You can see some of the work of the ROMAN CATHOLIC.

MaxInDHouse:
Cry cry baby, sorry o!
Mommy is coming to breastfeed you!

Lie lie Jehovah witness, no integrity atall.
Your yaldaboath is coming, look out fallen watcher!

AntiChristian:
You need not quote me as i don't only use google, i derive my interpretation from the Islamic sources!

When the Prophet started preaching Laa ilaaha illah Allah, what did the idol worshipers understood?

Why will they fight him as they did if it was as you "googled" it?

You no make sense at all.

Quran 109
1. Say (O Muhammad (Salallahu alayhi wasalam) to these Mushrikun and Kafirun): “O Al-Kafirun (disbelievers in Allah, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar, etc.)!
2. “I worship not that which you worship,
3. “Nor will you worship that which I worship.
4. “And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.
5. “Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. “To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism).”

“Allah” existed and have been documented before islam.
Post the link of the Islamic sources.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep crying for all i care!

Upon all the quotations i presented to you guys does it mean anything to you people?
If you want to become Muslims let me know but blind arguments out of frustration i won't quote anything for you.
Go and hug the electric transformer!

Noise, just show us or don’t you remember anymore? Who send you epistle?

Shameless liar, you have zero integrity. Jehovah witness indeed. Shame on you!

MaxInDHouse:
You're both crying for nothing because even if i quote the Qu'ran you guys already condemned the books so of what relevance is the quotation?

You suddenly don’t remember anymore? If not show us.

You lie over everything even the pettiest thing. It’s crazy, no integrity atall.

TenQ:
Moslems and lies are inseparable!

Allah says in the Quran:
Al-Quran 7:158
“… Those who follow the Messenger, the Immaculate One, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel which are with them.”


You Moslems then go through the bible looking for anything that will suggest that Mohammed was prophesied in the bible.

Is Allah wrong in Qur'an 7:158?

If he is not wrong, why PRETEND that MaxIntheHouse is lying?

Moslems and Taqqiyya!!

Christians too are guilty of this, they go through the tanakh(Old Testament) looking for anything that suggest “Jesus” was prophesied in the tanakh.
That’s why Judaism reject all their Jesus claims, Christianity evolve from Judaism.


Christians and hypocrisy!!