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MaxInDHouse:
Please penguin2 whenever you're ready for further discussion on the topic i'm still yours sincerely MaxInDHouse!

Worshipper of Jehovah aka William Tyndale

LordIsaac:
That's why I'm not God. My brain is created by Him. The highest of my reasoning and ability for logic is foolishness before Him. He is Alpha and Omega....the Beginning and the End. [/b]No mortal or immortal can comprehend His works. He is beyond searching out.[b]
Therefore, rest on His knowledge and be patient as He commands. There's an expiry date to Satan and all that he represents.

So your god created both good and evil?

arejibadz:
lol how ,tot god created satan, y beefing with someone whom he created??

You have to be careful with maxindhouse , he is not a Yahweh/Elohim/YHWH worshipper.
He is a “Jehovah” worshipper, and no where in the Jewish Bible was that name ever mentioned or called, the name was created by William Tyndale, which coincidentally is a Jehovah witness also, this Jehovah witness also created the king James VERSION.

when2:
It's only a foolish person questions the existence of God.

So why haven’t you accepted the claims of Yoruba culture or Hausa culture or islam about the existence of god? Why did you only accept the one from your religion?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm interested in PENGUIN because i know he's sincere in his request so keep your PERSONAL opinion Sir while i keep mine!

“Jehovah” is only found in the king James VERSION.
Guess who created the King James VERSION
There is no where “Jehovah” was mentioned in Hebrew Bible, it’s only found in the King James Version created by William Tyndale. Only “yhwh” and Yahweh is found in the Jewish Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm interested in PENGUIN because i know he's sincere in his request so keep your PERSONAL opinion Sir while i keep mine!

Worshipper of Jehovah. “Jehovah” is from a Latin origin, was the new and Old Testament written in Latin?
So where did William Tyndale get the name “Jehovah” from? Shouldn’t he use “yhwh” or Yahweh as it is written in the Bible?

JEHOVAH IS AN ARTIFICIAL NAME CREATED BY WILLIAM TYNDALE, it does not have his origin in Jewish Bible, only in Latin and king James VERSION.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm interested in PENGUIN because i know he's sincere in his request so keep your PERSONAL opinion Sir while i keep mine!

You are only interested in worshipping “Jehovah” created by William tyndale, no where in old and new testaments did they mention “Jehovah”.
Penguin should be careful, you are not a Elohim/yhwh worshipper, you are a worshipper of “Jehovah” created by a Jehovah witness. The joke write itself.
No wonder no one knows the king James VERSION more than Jehovah witness, it was a version created by Jehovah witness for Jehovah witnesses , it is not a translation from the Hebrew bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you can continue with your restlessness MindHacker, "i pass you" no be ṣeré ṣeré o.
JEHOVAH has given us the wisdom to silence any antagonist of pure worship {Isaiah 54:17} that's why i often laugh each time you think of challenging me because i KNOW you will end up frustrated with whatever you think you know!

And you can continuing worshipping William Tyndale.
Where did William Tyndale get the name “Jehovah” from? It was surely not from the Hebrew Bible he translated into English, he added his own..
That’s why you a Jehovah worshipper not a Elohim or Yahweh worshipper.
Elohim and Yahweh were specifically mentioned in the Bible, it was only in the king James VERSION written by William Tyndale that the word “Jehovah” is found.

You are a worshipper of William Tyndale, you are not following the Bible.

This argument is more than enough to crush any Jehovah witness.

MaxInDHouse:
The God whom we are worshiping kept warning the Israelites back then until He finally rejected them. So we are free to disengage them and their style of pronouncing the name of OUR God, we prefer JEHOVAH to YAHWEH and here comes the result.
The true God is now ANSWERING us as all the promises He made to His loyal worshipers are fulfilling in our midst.
Please ask those Judaists to call upon the name of their God the best way they know and let's see if His promises will be fulfilled in their midst!
This is what JEHOVAH promised:

In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.
Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3

Another prophecy even added saying:

"Then I will purify the lips of the peoples, that all of them may call on the name of the LORD and serve him shoulder to shoulder" Zephaniah 3:9

Only among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are these having fulfilment Sir!
The Jews are even divided against themselves as there are dozens of sect with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in the name "YAHWEH" they prefer but as for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES millions across the globe are unitedly worshiping JEHOVAH as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

So if you want to know the truth today is that day for you. TRUTH is in action throughout the earth WORKING out BENEFITS while the Jews are confused among themselves because Jesus of Nazareth said:

"Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters". Luke 11:23

I told you we don't just READ and concluded we KNOW but we ascertain the outcome to be sure of what we READ so that we can TRUST (BELIEVE) it! 1Thessalonians 5:21; James 2:18-26

Thanks for your time!

These are noise.
No where in the new and Old Testament did they mention “Jehovah” where did you get it from? William tydndale?
Where did you get “JHVH” from? How was it translated from “YHWH”?
It was William tyndale that formed the name “jehovah” when he was translating to English.
Why are you not using Bible translation but William Tyndale translation?

You are a worshipper of William tyndale.

MaxInDHouse:
Though this is not related to the topic of discussion but for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will respond to your childish argument only this once!

There was no alphabet "J" in the Hebrew language and moreover the name of the God of Abraham known as the "Divine name" wasn't written with vowels (a e i o u) it's rendered in four consonants YHWH.
And after Jesus' death the Jews exterminated all the pioneers of Christianity the Jews had a custom based on superstition not to pronounce the Divine name. That was how the original pronunciation of the divine name was lost. So there arose speculations and arguments on the right vowels added back in Jesus' days to pronounce the Divine name.
That's why some Jewish Rabbis concluded on the pronunciation "YAHWEH" for over a thousand years until Bible scholars raised the objection that those Jewish Rabbis are wrong!
WHY?
First of all there was no "J" in the ancient Hebrew language so names like Jacob, Judah, Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah including Jerusalemu shouldn't be in use if we are to go by the arguments of those Jewish Rabbis in Judaism.
Then the argument was raised again that since the alphabet "J" isn't in their ancestral language how come this people accepted the "J" today using it to pronounce the most important city where their temple is built "Jerusalem" "Jews" and the funniest part is that they're proudly called "Judaists"
So most Bible scholars agreed that this Judaists have lost it we need to find a way of pronouncing the Divine name that will correlate with other Biblical name like Jacob, Judah, Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah and Jerusalem. [/b]That's why they came up with the four consonants "JHVH" and after adding vowels to it the name JEHOVAH became a replacement for YAHWEH.[b]
So if you prefer the old style then don't forget never to pronounce names like Jacob, Judah Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah, John, Jerusalemu, Jews and even Judaism.

Thanks for your time!

Who came up with it? William Tyndale from the king James VERSION?
As it was written in the Bible he translated, did they write Jehovah or jhvh?

MaxInDHouse:
Though this is not related to the topic of discussion but for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will respond to your childish argument only this once!

There was no alphabet "J" in the Hebrew language and moreover the name of the God of Abraham known as the "Divine name" wasn't written with vowels (a e i o u) it's rendered in four consonants YHWH.
And after Jesus' death the Jews exterminated all the pioneers of Christianity the Jews had a custom based on superstition not to pronounce the Divine name. That was how the original pronunciation of the divine name was lost. So there arose speculations and arguments on the right vowels added back in Jesus' days to pronounce the Divine name.
That's why some Jewish Rabbis concluded on the pronunciation "YAHWEH" for over a thousand years until Bible scholars raised the arguments that those Jewish Rabbis are wrong!
WHY?
First of all there was no "J" in the ancient Hebrew language so names like Jacob, Judah, Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah including Jerusalemu shouldn't be in use if we are to go by the arguments of those Jewish Rabbis in Judaism.
Then the argument was raised again that since the alphabet "J" isn't in their ancestral language how come this people accepted the "J" today using it to pronounce the most important city where their temple is built "Jerusalem" "Jews" and the funniest part is that they're proudly called "Judaists"
So most Bible scholars agreed that this Judaists have lost it we need to find a way of pronouncing the Divine name that will correlate with other Biblical name like[b][/b] Jacob, Judah, Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah and Jerusalem.[b][/b] That's why they came up with the four consonants "JHVH" and after adding vowels to it the name JEHOVAH became a replacement for YAHWEH.
So if you prefer the old style then don't forget never to pronounce names like Jacob, Judah Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah, John, Jerusalemu, Jews and even Judaism.

Thanks for your time!

Why did you change YHWH into JHVH? You yourself said said there is no “j” in Hebrew.. where did you keep the “Y”?
The Bible specifically said “YHWH” It was your master, William Tyndale that changed it to “Jehovah”.
Do you think “joshua” is called “joshua” in Hebrew or Jerusalem?
Joshua is a English translation so as the rest of the name you mentioned.

You can now see that William tyndale didn’t only change Yahweh, he also changed the name of all these people.

You can now see that you are worshipping William Tyndale.

MaxInDHouse:
OK let's turn the matter to jokes!

Before 200 years after Jesus' ascension to the heavens his disciples were known for preaching and teaching in all the province of the Mediterranean Sea, they visit their neighbours in their homes, they don't support politicians so as not to damper the love among themselves, they're easygoing and obedient to the authorities so they don't join in protests against constituted authorities!
Before 1914 there was no group practicing this so if someone should ask you about Jesus and his disciples a sincere and honest hearted answer from you should be

"Christians have different denominations"

Or

"i only know a group called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

Well you and i may have been raised in Islam but i'm not going to deceive myself when i can see the truth!

His disciples were alive after 200 years?

PastorMIsBack:
God does know best.

When I was going through hell at the hands of a pastor, I prayed daily. I asked God to soften his heart towards me. God did not answer my prayer and I thought He had forsaken me.
3 weeks after I eventually left that Church, '1 Minute With Tina' was birthed. If He had answered my prayer, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today.

When my friend ran off with my fiancé, I thought my life was over. I kept on asking, "God, why?"
2 years later I met my wonderful husband.
Friend and fiancé split up after he cheated on her.
If God had answered my prayer, I would never have been happy with the cheating toerag.

A friend of mine came to the UK and was managing her friend's sofa.
One day her friend told her to leave her flat. She gave her 1 week to move.
She begged, prayed, cried. Nothing.
Eventually, she packed her bags and went to the housing for assistance.
They gave her a 1-bedroom flat of her own.
If God had answered her prayer, she would still be sleeping on the sofa.

If Joseph's brothers had listened to his plea, he wouldn't have become prime minister.
He probably thought God had forsaken him.

Let's pray for God's will to be done in our lives.
There are some things we won't be able to comprehend until much later.
The Lord will strengthen us in our afflictions and bring us out unscathed.

Was it your god that told you to leave the church? You shouldn’t have left since god knows best, it seems you yourself know what’s best for you without waiting for anyone’s approval.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for following Sir!
Now let's attend to the underlined question:

Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah will be accused and executed like a common criminal {Isaiah 53:12} this actually happened to Jesus of Nazareth!
Moses was the first prophet ever known from the time Israelites became a nation, we can also borrow a leaf from his prophecy regarding the Messiah. In his prophecy Moses emphasized that the people must LISTEN to the Messiah because all those who failed to do so will loose God's favour {Deuteronomy 18:19} then he continued by telling them how to recognize a false prophet perhaps they may be confused regarding the appearance of the Messiah:

However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him! Deuteronomy 18:21-22

Jesus prophesied a lot but noteworthy is the prophecy regarding God's promise of the Holy Spirit which will eventually occur immediately after the Messiah has offered the ultimate sacrifice! Joel 2:28-30
Even Jesus' disciples were still sceptical about him not until the day of pentecost when this prophecy came to fulfilment {Act 2:1-3} until that day Peter and the rest were still confused whether Jesus is the Messiah or not but after that day they were fully prepared to lay down their lives for the course because Jesus actually promised them that he will SEND the Holy Spirit when he gets back to heaven! John 14:25-29; 16:12-14
This is why those few seemingly gullible Jews were prepared to die for Jesus because they had the assurance apart from all what Jesus did in their presence that he is truly the Messiah or Christ!

That is possible but the prophecies fulfilled in the life of this man are viable reasons to believe in him. For instance David prophesied that the Israelites will treat the Messiah badly {Psalms 22:18; John 19:24}

From the onset Satan has been causing a lot of confusion so he is the brain behind the ill-treatment Israelites gave the promised Messiah. So while God was making plans to save mankind Satan and his demons were also working sleeplessly to make sure that nobody remains a worshiper of God by the time God decided to destroy Satan and his cohorts.

May you have PEACE!

Messiah is a Hebrew word, what does it mean in Hebrew?
NO WHERE in the Old or new Testament did they mention “Jehovah” it was a name coined by your master, William Tyndale. That’s why you call yourself Jehovah witness, not Elohim or Yahweh witness, these are the names that was mentioned in the new and Old Testament.

You are a worshipper of William Tyndale(Jehovah) no wonder they do describe Jehovah as a old white man with white beards, they know exactly who they are talking about.

when2:
There is no need to hold a conversation with you because I have now seen that you are not capable of reasoning deeply. You cannot make use of what you don't have.

But you are also not using your reasoning, you are only repeating what your doctrine told you, If your doctrine changes it tomorrow you’ll also agree.

elated177:
Are you saying that you are not an agent of witches? You are not even conscious of it? Chai! Still on this your larper thingy? Ihe efu! Your eyes go soon clear. No nsogbu yourself!


The saints, servants and messengers of YHVH Almighty care about his messages. In fact, they can't wait to get the next one. They know how uplifting the messages are. I know very well that the saints, servants and messengers of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, are few, very few, here. Once they get the message, the mission has been accomplished. The most healthy foods aren't necessarily the sweetest. I am not in any kind of popularity contest. I am not here to make you and your fellow agents of witches laugh or entertained. Nope!


The "bumping" thingy is just to maintain presence and nothing more. I know very well that the saints, servants and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah are always on the look out for his messages and read them immediately they are delivered. So, most of the messages are for them. The subsequent posts and comments below the main messages are just done in order to maintain presence. In the absence of Ikea, we weren't eating goat dung, Reed. When did I join nairaland? I can decide to close this account tomorrow and never ever have anything to do with the site again. I would lose nothing if I did. It is just a platform. Can you, Reed?

Eeemmm, don't flatter yourself. You think yourself an interesting fella? Stop kidding yourself, Reed. How many times do I even mention you that you prompted you to harbour such flattering thoughts? Reed, you are a low level vibrations being always looking for where to sap some energy.

There’s nothing like yhvh, it’s yhwh.
What does the v in yhvh represent? Vagina?

YHWH has a meaning in Hebrew, what’s the meaning of yhvh in Hebrew?
Don’t be half smart, we are still battling with Elohim, Yhwh, Yahweh, and Jehovah, don’t go adding new gods.

Dtruthspeaker:
Most honoured!

Just wow.

Dtruthspeaker:
As proven by what we have all been doing all day today! YOU HAVE BEEN IN COURT SINCE! hehehe

you are too wise.

Dtruthspeaker:
Nairaland is 99% Court. 1% Talk. That is why it is a house of Arguments, Witnesses, Evidence and Laws

Just wow.

Dtruthspeaker:
hahahaha

What else do think is going on here, football? Is evidence played with in football? hahaha

O you people are funny, life.

You are using a definition that’s derive from court processes to support your claim.
Does the definition of testimonial evidence correlate with what you said?
This is not funny man, outside religion, is this how you think?
Testimonial evidence is called that because it happens inside court, so if you are going to use it as an example it has to happen in a court house..

when2:
Since you could not answer this few questions, then don't question the existence of a Supreme and Almighty God. Don't take his mercies for granted. Good night.

Why shouldn’t I question it, I should just simply believe it right.. why don’t you also simply believe other account of other religion?
I don’t need his mercy, let him give it to over 100 people that die of malaria everyday in Nigeria.

when2:
If I may ask you, how did you come in to existence? Do you have evidence of how you were form in your mother's womb or how you came into existence? Can you touch the hair you breath in , count or see it? I want you tell the the answers and attach evidence to it.

I don’t have evidence, but that does not mean I should accept ANY claim without reasoning.

Dtruthspeaker:
hahahaha And what is testimony called in courts?

Did all these happened in court?
“ So the direct testimonies of Mathew to John, Who were with Christ, (even when 2 of us were not there) both before and after His death and resurrection is not testimonial evidence?”

Dtruthspeaker:
hoooo

Let’s start from you understanding what “evidence” means huh

Dtruthspeaker:
So the direct testimonies of Mathew to John, Who were with Christ, (even when 2 of us were not there) both before and after His death and resurrection is not testimonial evidence?

Definitely, we have reached the limits of your reasonability.

That’s why they called it testimony not evidence. Man, nawa oo..

Dtruthspeaker:
hahaha very very funny

Speechless huh?
Do you know what “evidence” means?

when2:
My comment was base on the statement you made. Don't try to divert.

I never made such statement, stop lying. I asked a question, what’s your doctrine.

Dtruthspeaker:
Then you are blind especially to not see verse 29/30 or you don't have a Bible.

You are the one with illusions, forcibly inserting a character that was not there.

Dtruthspeaker:
So testimonial evidence is not evidence ehn? So all the talk about your grandfather ancestors is zero evidence.

Please go read types and classes of evidence then you can come back and argue.

Do you even know what “evidence” means before we go to classes of it?
Evidence means something that can be tested over and over again can testimonial evidence be tested, you said “testimonial” darn

Dtruthspeaker:
John 1:15, 27-30.

No where was Jesus mentioned.

when2:
I never mentioned doctrine in my statement. Just do what I said, and you will have peace.

Where did I say you mentioned doctrine?
As a Christian Don’t you have a doctrine you practice? why are you distancing yourself from it now? You are not proud of the church you go?

Dtruthspeaker:
John 1:1-11 is definitely not in your Bible anyway, Change of post!

What does it say? Where did it call the word Jesus?