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FxMasterz:
We know it was created in Rome. And we know that a great part of our world currently uses the notation.

A christian devising a calendar for his state religion doesn’t make characters in his books real.

FxMasterz:
The BC/AD notation wasn't in use even during the time of Christ let alone Octavia who was born 66yrs before Christ.

It's reasonable to say that a notation in use before the Advent of AD and BC was eventually abandoned. The AD and BC are still prominently in use today. Common Era is just and alternative use for Christian Era by non christians.

The notation was used by the romans not the world.
And not to forget Chrestianity was a state religion in Rome, it is common sense for them to devise a new one once in a while, the julian calender also replaced lunisolar calender, all these calenders are for ROME AND ROMANS.
Some romans even till now don’t use it.
China doesn’t use gregorian calender hence there’s nothing like AD/BC.
Even ethiopia doesn’t use the Gregorian calendar created in ROME for ROMANS.

FxMasterz:
Why didn't you answer the question? What's my concern about connotations?

Your AD and BC is a gregorian idea that was used in replace of julius ceaser.

What you should be asking is when did Romans start using AD/BC.
No wonder Catholic is the mother of Christianity.

FxMasterz:
Christians killed Nero? That's a distortion. Bring out your historical reference.

The said New Era that was usheed in by Antony and Octavian has nothing to do with the year 1. What is the distinctive feature that makes the Era new? Moreso, we're not talking about a new era. A new era is not necessarily common.

There was no “christian” during Nero time but chrestians, bring your historical reference for it.

The AD and BC you are shouting is a gregorian idea, do you think they had AD/BC during antony and octavian time?

Look at what made it uncommon in Roman History.

FxMasterz:
Why did you cut off the part of the screenshot that says even Common Era refers to the date Christ was born?

And common era are used for connotations of what?

FxMasterz:
The screenshots as well as my posts made you know that the term Commonn Era was first used by Kepler in his book in 1605. There was never a change made from Christian Era to Common Era. The term Common Era is just a preferred alternative by non Christians.

A date widely used for centuries now to measure time globally cannot be based on a fictional figure.

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FxMasterz:
A Roman propaganda that was fiercely oppossed by Constantine himself and his predecessors before merging Christianity with state affairs?

A Roman propaganda about a person whose history and date of birth is known? A Roman propaganda about a man with detailed historical records and biography?

Yes, Chrestians killed nero.
A new era was ushered in by mark anthony and octavian.

Which history and date of birth? Mention it and let’s trace it together.
Outside of New Testament, where is Iesus chrestus mentioned?
Please mention just ONE of the historical records and biography.

FxMasterz:
See image below.

Also note that whether Common Era, Christian Era or BC/AD are listed, they all refer to the same dates - before Christ's birth and after Christ's birth. All are still related to Christ.

Have you looked up the origin of BC/AD, and what was used in rome before that?
Or don’t you know you are using a roman calendar?

Can you now see your Iesus chrestus is a roman propaganda?

TemplarLandry:
I'm a follower of Christ.

If you mean iesus chrestus that preached in synagogue, that iesus is a judaist.
So where did this jew boy create christianity?

TemplarLandry:
Christianity is a way of life and not a religion. On this premise, they might be right.

What is your doctrine? Redeemed? Catholic? Protestant? Orthodox?

So many ways of life.

budaatum:
Indeed it is about the definition of "nothing". (And I hope you are also finding that a lot of argument had here is about definitions, and individial understanding).

For me, "watery chaos" is something that has a watery substance that is in a state described as chaos, which is quite a lot of some things, if I were asked.

We can just look up the origin of the word “nothing” and “chaos”.

Nothing which comes from no-thing.
The term thing came from the Old English þing, meaning “entity”, “being”, “body”, or “matter”.

Chaos means formless and empty. Chaos is not a thing.
I’m talking about this formless and empty has no-thing.

Even in greek mythology, Hesiod tells us that chaos is the origin of everything — the creation of the universe.
“Verily at the first Chaos came to be,
But wide next-bossomed earth,
The ever sure foundation of all”

Chaos proceeded to give birth to the first Greek gods, the primordial deities, Hesiod portrays chaos as preceding all other elements and entities in the universe.

In genesis
"In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

Now the earth was formless and empty.”

Formless and empty- this is the original meaning of the Greek word Chaos (khaos 'vast chasm, void) signifying a void or a state of nothingness.

budaatum:
No, I don't know that. Even the Christian myth does not point to nothing from nothing, since the god itself must have been something, and have been somewhere, albeit all we read about it is imaginary.

As I always say, there has to have been something to go Big Bang or be in chaos.

I think it is the definition of “nothing” here.
The gensis creation story is gotten from earlier sources, Egyptians, babylonian, Mesopotamia all pointing to nothing from nothing.
If you look at the genesis story there was no mention of what created “the deep” which was formless and void.
The 4 chaos gods compare to the genesis story.
Nun = the deep

Huh = the earth that is ‘formless and void’

Kuk = darkness

Amun = spirit (or wind).

And if you look at the genesis creation story, the elohims “made” heaven and earth from this formless water, “watery chaos”.
I’m referring to nothing as this watery chaos.

LordReed:
Yeah.

The one that really tears the brain is 'the universe is not locally real'. If you want to give your brain a workout look that up.

Wow, a nobel prize winner.

And I think the idea of Nothing can been seen in potential energy; energy at rest.
Even though no action in it, energy is not empty in it, it has lot of potentials in it. The conversion of that energy that is resting leads to Kinectic energy(something).

Another thing i want to say is that if you look at an empty cup, some may say it contains atoms, matters or whatever, but if you remove those things, “no-thing” will still be left.
It seems Everything is within Nothing. Everything is coming/removing out of Nothing.

LordReed:
This is one of those times intuition fails because it's easy to think the nothing being spoken of is the philosophical nothing meanwhile the nothing here is actually something because of vacuum fluctuations.

I think our definition of nothing is flawed.
It comes from no thing.
What is a thing? It means entity, being, matter.

All mythologies point to “nothing from nothing”.
The “nothing” here is formless matter.
Some physicists—such as Lawrence Krauss, Stephen Hawking, and Michio Kaku—define or defined "nothing" as an unstable quantum vacuum that contains no particles.

budaatum:
They obviously don't mean the same "flat" like when it is wrongly claimed the earth is flat.

https://www.astronomy.com/science/what-shape-is-the-universe/

Yeah i get it.
Do you know all mythologies point to “nothing from nothing”.

You know about the chaos gods?

LordReed:
It's a little tricky to explain and I admit I couldn't really wrap my head around it until I studied it a bit more as well as saw some explanatory images. After I understood it, it began to make sense based on observed phenomena.

What do you think about nothing coming out of nothing?

“The law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system cannot change. The zero-energy universe hypothesis states that the amount of energy in the universe minus the amount of gravity is exactly zero. In this kind of universe, matter could be created from nothing through a vacuum fluctuation, assuming such a zero-energy universe already is nothing.
Such a universe would need to be flat, a state which does not contradict current observations that the universe is flat with a 0.5% margin of error.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_comes_from_nothing

I just looked up online and saw that the universe is flat.
What you say about that? Lordreed budaatum

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ABIODUN105:
She will deliver like the hebrew woman in jesus name

Understand the context of the verse, are they talking vaginal childbirth or surgical childbirth?

1nice:
You should be ashamed of yourself by now!

Animals can not even practice male to male sexual intercourse and female to female sexual intercourse: animals are better than gays and lesbians.

Abomination!!
Spits!!

So how is it affecting you PERSONALLY that gays and lesbians are worse than animals?

thesicilian:
She should go and sit down somewhere. The record that has been on ground for years, as soon as her fellow Nigerian breaks it that is the particular one she wants to go for. Of all the hundreds of thousands of records to attempt! The one who broke the record has not even received the official award yet and you're already trying to topple her. Just like that employee that would secretly go and try convince the boss that she deserves a promotion more than a fellow co-worker, instead of just applying for her own promotion.

You are yet to say what she did wrong exactly.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK!

Yes theist

MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious you're just hungry for arguments.

The topic is about atheists and how to know an atheist who is disguising as a believer.

If you have anything reasonable to contribute you're welcome but if not keep your aggression nobody is interested in your pointless arguments here!

You lack knowledge of this topic.
The definition of atheist has already been defined, and it is the opposite of theism.
The psalm is a jewish book gotten from egypt, the gods mentioned there are local gods around and inside israel.

If you want to talk about theism and atheism atleast have knowledge on it.

MaxInDHouse:
So if he was talking about his local God then how come you think he was referring to all those who don't even know his local God?

Go and read the original tanakh in hebrew, and you will see yahweh there. A common orphan god.

And it seems you lack the knowledge of what “god” means, was new or old testament written in English?

vdestro:
That is not the issue.

Ok.

vdestro:
Same as the Bible.

Bible means collection of books.
We have the tanakh that christians call Old Testament, and the New Testament that was created by the chrestians.

So tell me the sources of the books that makes up your bible.

PoliteActivist:
Nice chatting witcha. You are a misguided fella but I KNOW deep down in your heart you know the truth.
You know all those encounters of the Spirit, Jesus, through the centuries couldn't have all been happenstance. I pray you have your own encounter and come here to testify about it.
Ciao!

Nice chatting with you too, you are a deeply indoctrinated fellow, what’s your doctrine?
Have knowledge on your beliefs, your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament.

I pray you don’t die a yahweh worshipper waiting for a jewish savior.
I know it’s hard for you to face facts, you have been indoctrinated from birth, it’s hard.

The concept of spirit comes from Animism, have knowledge on your religion, don’t be regurgitating what your pastors tells you, these books in the Bible search for who wrote it, know the earliest New Testament, know the masoteric text.

May you be free from the Israelite god and a jewish boy called iesus bwahahahaha

MaxInDHouse:
Imagine someone who lives in a remote village around Brazil how reasonable will it sound if a Nigerian say such a person is foolish for not having the fear of Buhari!

That's exactly what you're arguing blindly for, who could have heard of the psalmist's God if the Bible wasn't brought here?

Buhari is a local president in Nigeria, so as yahweh a local god in Israel. Yahweh and buhari are powerless outside of their region.

The psalmist was talking about his local god, you know yahweh is a jealous god.

MaxInDHouse:
When talking about reasoning you need what is called the UNCOMMON SENCE to participate in such a discussion.

For instance you said:



The psalmist can't be talking to people who have never heard about his God because to such ones what they don't know can't exist until they know but the psalmist is talking about people who are living where this God is actively working out so many things yet they're not living in fear of Him.

Such ones are really really foolish but those who have never had anything to do with Him or His works what business has they got to do with His existence?

I’m sure the unknown psalmist doesn’t speak English.
The books you are quoting is a jewish book.

Those who don’t know the knowledge of their religion continue to bask in illusions and worship israelite god.

“ When we're talking about the real meaning of the word "ATHEIST".

A theist talking about an atheist 😂

PoliteActivist:
So since you are in Rome do as the Romans do: it is Jesus!. Don't be afraid of the name, you are not a demon

There you are, pretending you are dumb again. Who said the word spirit only pertains to Christ.

Meanwhile here are just a few messiahs if Jesus time. Jesus said time will reveal the true messiah because the fake ones will disappear. That's exactly what happened

Jesus is a result of editing iesus. Early church fathers did the forgery.
Iesus is Iesus, use that name to stop over 100 people from drying of malaria everyday in Nigeria.

Christ means anointed with OIL, it’s a greek word, the Hebrew equivalent is Messiah, there are many messiahs in the tanakh.
Even crypus is a messiah/christ.
in Isaiah, the last verse of chapter 44 surprises us by mentioning Cyrus, the king of Persia. In 44:28, God refers to Cyrus as “my shepherd.” Then, in the next verse (45:1), Cyrus is referred to as the Lord’s “anointed one.” This phrase translates the Hebrew mashiach, from which we get the familiar term messiah.

You are pretending to be stupid again even after knowing the etymology and dictionary of spirit, “iesus is the living spirit” bwahahaha

You are ignorant of your religion and gods

PoliteActivist:
You are speaking a Language. You chose to speak it, no one forced you. In that Language it is Jesus!

You are not as dense as you pretend to be. Let's go to the dictionary. See beloe

We were colonized by the British, and English is our official language, i didn’t have a choice.
If not for the early church fathers forgery, it is Iesus.

And so, We have jesus gabriel that is a brazilian.

Is air, wind and breathe a physical part of the body, is it indoctrination that made you this senile?
Look at the dictionary, where is Iesus mentioned?
You think the concept of “spirit” exist only in your religion?