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FxMasterz:
There are norms in every organizations. Institutions evolve as they grow. Things that were acceptable yesterday may no longer be acceptable today. Such is life. There are cases where even governments have criticised and passed laws to regulate the activities of healing evangelists. Accusing them of practicing healing without license. This has happened especially in the United States.

Jesus is not like any of us. We're His servants, and can only go where He sends us, and do only what He asks us to do. Also, everyone has his own area of influence and gifting. Jesus carried a universal anointing. Nobody can immitate Him.

Yes, there are those who have performed healings and miracles in hospitals when particularly invited by the sick. It's wrong to just walk in and start laying hands on everyone in the premises of an hospital.

There are several miracles taking place as we speak. You can go where they're happening. Infact, you could do it as a researcher.

Read about the following people if you care to know more. Joseph Ayo Babalola of C.A C and Archbishop Benson Idahosa (There are live videos of him raising the dead at preaching engagements in the US and UK).

Today, people like EA Adeboye, W.F Kumuyi, David Oyedepo, D.K Olukoya, Paul Enenche, David Ibiyheomie, Chris Oyakhilome and hundreds of thousands of barely known men of God still perform miracles today. I myself have seen tremendous miracles through my hands. It's absolute foolishness and madness for me to be lying to defend miracles if they don't exist. I do not expect you to believe me but make a Google search on those names I mentioned. Some of them who have died, such as Ayo Babalola have physically verifiable evidences on several prayer mountains. Those who are alive have miracle hours they televise. If you don't believe in what you see on TV, walk into their auditoriums as a researcher. You won't come back the same.

God is real my brother. I'm not saying it for the sake of it. God is real. This is the absolute truth.

If you read the wrong books, you'll acquire the wrong knowledge. If you research into the right places, you'll find the truth.

Why do i need to go to a shrine before i can see the “miracles”?
Why are they not performing the miracles at hospitals and mortuaries?
Who told you it is wrong laying hands on people to heal them?
Is it one of the universally laws?

My brother your god yahweh is nothing but a dummy idol worshipped by the Israelites
Iesus chrestus is a creation of the Roman Empire.
Bro please i don’t want you to die a yahweh worshipper waiting for a jewish man to be your savior.

Truth are not subjective, truth should be able to be verified and tested and it Will bring the same results again and again, don’t confuse opinions gotten from random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

FxMasterz:
Lol.

Mention the universally accepted laws.

FxMasterz:
Bro, even psychologists are not in support of your views. When people murdered and raped and stole, did they start announcing themselves about that they're killers and thief's. But when a man does commendable things, he uses it to get glory.

You must see nigerian politicians lol.

FxMasterz:
Miracles aren't scarce and are very common. But they're not like magic which you go everywhere to show off. If you must see miracles, you'll go to where they're happening. I gave you some references then, if you visit where they're happening, you can judge things for yourself.

Why can’t the miracles be seen by everyone?
Was Iesus chrestus or people in the tanakh miracles not seen by everyone?

Why do i need to go to a shrine before i can see the “miracles”?
Why are they not performing the miracles at hospitals and mortuaries?

FxMasterz:
If I were of the literary class, maybe I could have been able to provide more details. Unfortunately, I didn't do English language or any of its related courses.

Meanwhile, there's a Japanese book I read in 2002. The book was titled Samurai. I didn't remember the name of the author too, even though I remember the story. But in contrast to Oren Knox, the book Samurai is available online.

Still more claims 🥱

FxMasterz:
Infact, a friend gave me the book. And, take note of the year. It's 1997. That's 25 solid years ago. It would take a super sound mind to remember even the book's content, late alone the title and then author's name.

And even the claim i asked you to prove are when you claim miracles.

Are miracles that rare and scarce?

FxMasterz:
Infact, a friend gave me the book. And, take note of the year. It's 1997. That's 25 solid years ago. It would take a super sound mind to remember even the book's content, late alone the title and then author's name.

Still more claims.

But a sound mind is not needed to narate lies stories like this.
“ The book detailed a fictional story of how a young orphan boy rose into prominence in America. Starting as a cigarette factory worker at a very tender age, he went on to own a compendium of large cigarette companies including the ones he once worked in, in just a few years. The book contains rich lessons for Entrepreneurs. I was searching online for the book of recent, and to my amazement, nothing about the book could be found.”

FxMasterz:
That's one thing about books. You'll remember the touching content of the book but you may forget the author. It's funny actually but it happens to all of us.

What a coincidence, it is that same book you are using as reference that you don’t remember the name of the author, you also can’t take a picture of the book, and the book is not online, no adult except you has read this book.

FxMasterz:
I've forgotten the author's name. He's an unpopular author but that single volume was a hit, and I thought it should be online by just referencing the book's title.

Why won’t you forget, but you perfectly remember what happened in the book.

FxMasterz:
Let's leave this. I don't think we'll get anywhere with it. But you've already said that the internet contains information that are fed into it by us.

Information itself is Intellectual Property. I can feed information online if I own it. A piece of information may not be online if the owner does not deem it fit to put it on the internet.

Mention the name of the author, let’s see if it is only you that also knows this author, no other adult has read its book or knows this author.

Can you take a picture of this book, I seriously doubt it

You are the only adult that has these information, no one else has thought of putting it online except you.
Mention the name of the author, let’s see if it is only you that also knows this author, no other adult has read its book or knows this author.

FxMasterz:
The internet didn't contain only one claim I made. Then the other claims were claims I made to prove that the internet does not contain all things. The claim of the Baby fish is something anyone who was an educated adult in the 1990s can easily remember, that was why I raised that claim to prove that not all things or events have found their ways online. The book I just mentioned now is an example. Some of the things that happened pre-internet are not online. You can only know if you've been an adult in those days.

Who is the author of the book you mentioned?

The internet does not contain all things, it’s not omniscience.
The internet contains information feed to it by us, how come no one except you as gone online to talk about it.

No educated person that has lived in 1990s has thought of putting it online except you?

It seems You are the only adult that has these informations.

FxMasterz:
I'm not using that as backup to defend my point. I was just making a reference. You know that your position about the internet is flawed. It's like saying every child in a community who preceded the creation of a school in that community must definitely have passed through that school.

The internet contains many things. It doesn't contain all things.

Your analogy is flawed, because internet is not a school.

How come the internet don’t contain ALL your claims?

FxMasterz:
Many who have lived adult lives before the proliferation of the internet would agree with me.

For instance, I read a book in 1997 titled Oren Knox. It was a classic. The book detailed a fictional story of how a young orphan boy rose into prominence in America. Starting as a cigarette factory worker at a very tender age, he went on to own a compendium of large cigarette companies including the ones he once worked in, in just a few years. The book contains rich lessons for Entrepreneurs. I was searching online for the book of recent, and to my amazement, nothing about the book could be found.

There's no reason why I should lie to defend a point. I consider such attitudes very demeaning.

There are so many information that are on the internet that precede when internet was created.

The example you gave has nothing to do with the discussion about if your claims are true.
You are using another claim to backup a claim.

If you so want people to know you are not lying why don’t you try to find evidence for your claims, have you thought of that?

FxMasterz:
You know them.

Even kids of 3yrs know that some things aren't right to be done. The more the reason why they'll love to do them in your absence.

That universally accepted moral laws exist isn't something to argue about.

Those 3 year old kids were taught that, if they lived in other times or other cultures they will be taught another thing.
When you reward and punish someone for something what do you think will happen?

So tell me the universally accepted laws.

FxMasterz:
You'll be the first to call your opponent dullard, illiterate, etc. Even when he has never insulted you. Everyone on this forum knows that. The last time, you were even insulting my elders simply because I asked you to ask elders around about a widely publicised incident in Russia that happened in 1992 which obviously you knew nothing about.

I say it again, if you didn’t start the insult i wouldn’t insult you, take what you dish out.

If it was widely publicized incident in Russia, it should be online.
Why are ALL your stories no where to be found online.

FxMasterz:
Anyway, I've made my grieveances known to you. For the sake of courtesy, let me respond.

Whether a God or Gods. The most important thing here is that Someone or Some entities higher than man set the moral laws that are universally accepted by man to judge between right and wrong.

What are the moral laws that are universally accepted.

FxMasterz:
You can go through all my mentions with you. Even when you abuse me, I don't immediately react until it gets to a point where I can't take it anymore.

You can also go through all my mentions with you, i have no reason to abuse you unless you start it.
I deal with knowledge not beliefs.

FxMasterz:
I have always been cautious in all my discourse on this forum. I respect myself and therefore respect everyone I have dealings with. But on several occasions, you've abused me for no just reasons. And I've decided to let you be.

If you didn’t abuse me first, I wouldn’t have abused you.

FxMasterz:
Maynman, I have had encounters with you in which I have every cause to conclude that you do not engage in mature, intelligent and clean discussions. Your mantra is to cause unnecessary provocation using vulgarity and abusive languages. I do not have the time for such.

I don’t start the insults, i don’t like it when people can’t take what they dish out.

Imagine calling me son of one character in your storybook but if i also do the same na problem.

FxMasterz:
My intent here is not to prove that God A or B is the true God. That's a secondary issue. The primary issue is that a God exists.

Why not Gods exist?

Your argument is very weak.

sonmvayina:
Where is the firmament the bible spoke off?

And water above it...


Who has heard of the Van Allen belt?

We can go through the genesis story together.
The firnament was MADE from the waters, to separate the waters from the waters, waters went up was called shamayin(heaven), water that went down was called mayin(seas), and the firnament that separated them was called sky.

Steep:
gerrarahere
You are not to be taken serious

Yahweh worshipper, The owners of the books you are basing your life on, look at what they have to say about THEIR books.

Steep:
Where did God told Abraham to lie, pathetic liar.
Atheism is lunacy honestly, I forgot lying is permissive as long as it serves your purpose.

What purpose did Abraham lie had?

So your god is yahweh?
Why not allah?
Muslim are theists too na

Steep:
This clown has resulted to lying hahaha, and I ask you where did yahweh ask Abraham to lie about his wife Sarah?

Numbers 31:13-18-13-18.
What’s objective morality?

Moses, Eleazar, and all the leaders of the congregation went to meet the returning army outside the camp. Moses was furious with the army officers—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—as they came back from the battlefield: “What’s this! You’ve let these women live! They’re the ones who, under Balaam’s direction, seduced the People of Israel away from GOD in that mess at Peor, causing the plague that hit GOD’s people. Finish your job: kill all the boys. Kill every woman who has slept with a man. The younger women who are virgins you can keep alive for yourselves.

Did the virgins give them consent?

Wagwanbrethren:
Yet he speaks about morality. 🤣

Steep is a woman.

Wagwanbrethren:
But you believe God came out of nothing na? 🤣
Does that make you mentally ill? Explain how God came into existence na. You don't want to accept that the existence of universe doesn't prove God's existence, but you want me to believe that your existence is as a result of God's existence that you can't prove. Does that not make you a blockhead?🤣

Talking about morality. This confused God plagued Egypt with various disease when he could easily do it in a more accurate way. The same god killed his whole creation including children and pregnant women!🤣
Comot morality Abeg.

Just because something is powerful doesn't mean that it is good. Hitler was powerful, but that doesn't mean that he was good. Finally, morality doesn't have to come from God in order to be true. There are many reasons why people might think that certain actions are morally right or wrong, and not all of them have to do with religion. This is basic sense na! 🤷‍♂️

I asked steep if lying to save yourself from death is wrong just as yahweh told abraham to lie about his wife, she is yet to answer .

budaatum:
And they, the planets, are all made of swiss cheese.

Right, and the holes in the cheese are part of what makes up the cheese, they are not deformities.

Steep:
paying tithe has never being wrong.

So what makes something wrong?
What is wrong in europe, is not wrong in Africa.

Steep:
No according to your stupid logic, if you know the price of goods before hand it means you are the cause.

If I know the prices of goods does that make me Omniscience?, if I’m omniscience that means I’m the cause of all things.

Steep:
My world view is not subjective, I believe what is wrong is wrong universally because there is a universal creator. Atheism cannot allow for objective morality.

Is paying tithe wrong universally?