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There's difference between light skin and yellow.

@OP

There is a skin disorder in the Ibo gene. Its related with a leprous mutation. Untriggered it surfaces mildly as a piedald patch or skin stains or discoloration around the brow, nose, lips, elbows, knuckles, knees, toes and so on... Fully blown it escalates to leprosy and disfigurement.

The yellowness you observe as prominent amongst Iboes is the foundation and a hint at this genetic disorder. Studies show 9 out of every 10 yellow Ibo will end either with the mild or exagerated form of the disease. Some start off with the mild form but left untreated degenerate into leprosy. Typically the yellowness begin to fade, replaced by a spread of the white patches and skin baldness around age 45.

WIZGUY69:
- Lokoja
was the capital of the British Northern
Nigeria Protectorate and remained a
convenient administrative town for the
British colonial government after the
amalgamation of Northern and Southern


- I actually don't know the meaning in Ebira & Igala.

- igala got their first, that's why the main king in lokoja is Attah. (which means Father).

- igala then ebira then okun. the major language spoken there depends on the location. in lokoja ( which is the major city their) Igala
okene the second largest town which happens to be the main town of the ebiras. they speak ebira there.

I think so..

Its an insult to begin the history of Lokoja with British foothold. What was the history before colonialists, do you know?

Shymm3x:
I've been following it closely without talking about it.

These mofos just never learn from history.

They know how volatile everywhere is right now and the Lagos topic is hot, yet they want more problems.

It's good news if you ask me cos that will probably be the beginning to their end in Lagos. And at least when the hammer comes down on them, the depopulation we're all praying for will happen by crook.

Lmao.

Duke,
Keep that bad boy loaded. I hear Ibo is bringing ipob march to Lagos.

Wassup Duke...I think you have hooked quami, by crook!

dansoye1:
Hi Mayor

Okuns do not wholly owned Lokoja but do have a part that they are indigenous to in the city. Lokoja is a disputed land among notably

Oworo(Okun),Nupe,Ebira,Igala,Hausa- all lay claim to ownership of the town.

laudate:
You want the Nupes & Igalas to fight you??! Ha!

Im trying as much to not discuss Northern issues but there is a strong tease particularly a myth which lack of knowledge and cheap ridicule has made acceptable evrrytime Hausa and North is mentioned amongst Yorubas.

We must, I stress this...we Yorubas must study and thoroughly understand the North if we desire by any means to return to regionalism or seceed from Nigeria.

There are two majority tribes in North, Hausa and Kanuri, thats it. Fulani is a minority but the elite and ruling class. Beside Islam, they worship traditional cults in North and they have Christians as well. There are Hausas, Kanuris and Fulanis that consult oracle and they also have ritualists up there.

Fulanis never had kingdoms in their history...never anywhere in the history of Africa do you find an old Empire of Fulani. They were a sub culture under Songhay Empire and Mali Empire.

The occassion of Fulani having Emirates is a revolution in Hausaland. They simply occupied thrones and palaces preexisting and owned by Hausa Kings. Fulani did not know how to erect a kingdom or city. The walled cities, the history and office were already institutions of power....they simply eliminated the owners, walked up and occupied the vacancies. The Hausa Sarkis that escaped went Southward into Lokoja. Fulanis believe their success in Hausaland should work in Kanuriland, in Nupeland, in Yorubaland, in Iboland....that they can carry out a campaign of terror, intimidation, elimination and then subjugation to culminate in sacking the throne and converting ownership. They are still ambitious till today and when their efforts are blocked they throw tantrum and blame it on intolerance for their cow herds to graze. Its a plot!

In Yorubaland if your family name is Fayemi or Fashola or Fasakin...instantly you have given hints how to locate your family compound. It doesn't matter where you are in the world, we have your code and we can trace you to your family chain. Its not like this in North

You cannot trace a Sanusi, a Ibrahim, a Mohammed, a Yusuf, a Buhari. There are millions with these last names and are spread across many desert countries, from Darfur, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Burkina, Benin, Ghana, Mali.... So then an Ibrahim Yousuf in Nigeria is not necessarily a Nigerian even if he speaks Hausa, the lingua franca across many communities in the Sahel and Dessert.

If you take Ayo Ogunmade from Lagos to Ijebu, to Ijesha, to Ekiti, Egba, Ibadan, Okun, Offa, Ilorin, Jebba, Saki, Epe, Badagry....ati bebe lo, he will remain Ayo Ogunmade, his name will never change due to location or relocation. It is not so in North. They go by a different code.

Abubakar Adamu was born and raised in Funtua. He goes to Kano for secondary education and decides to drop his last name and adopt his town. He becomes Abubakar Funtua. He goes afterward to University of Maiduguri. His friends are Kanuri and startbto call him Babu Funtua. Abubakar, Abu Sadiq, Babu, Bakar, Bacar, Abacha...are different to the Southerner, but to the Norther are all same. In fact if this guy goes to Sokoto serve youth corp his friends there would know him as Abubakar Sadiq Funtua! Mohammed, Modu, Momodu, Mo, Momoh are all the same name. As a result of our lack of understanding, we have in reality had some foreigners in the Sahel occupy positions reserved for Nigerians, under cover of language, culture and faith common in the North. In all these we busy ourselves reminding the Northerner that we are smarter than them.

If.you study the history of Lokoja we see it is a confluence, and what in old order would be termed strategic and.prime location. Strategic to who? To those who wield powers and armies and are looking for prime crossroads to occupy because it served as resting place as well trading spots or exchanges or markets and hence opporthnity to tax. So who were the Great powers in the immediate vicinity to occupy this spot?

You can eliminate Igala and Hausa. Hausa had no contigous domain connecting with Lokoja. If Igala had power Lokoja was beyond its league to contend authority over.

Oyo Ile was a powerful Imperial seat and within stone throw of Lokoja. Bida was a seat of a king and not an Emperor, but has close proximity also...but the presence of Hausa and others and their claim is not supported either by their own history, that of the old order of political supremacy or the name of the town itself. Lokoja in Yoruba is synonymous with a passage.....well, thats exactly what the place is, a passage or intersect.! What does Lokoja mean in Igala, Nupe or Hausa?

I shared these many background and info on a very simple.matter that doea not requore a lenghty narration but if you learn a thing or two here then the effort is worth it.

We cannot continue to yield a land everytime its in contention with Northerners. If we own it and history supports our ownership of it then by God, we must support that ownership with cultural facts and historical legends. We cannot go with what is...a result of reshape and remodelling of ancestral lands exercised by reckless military rulers.

Okun people own Lokoja. Nupe has a tiny chance of contention if they disprove Okun as the owner. Igala and Hausa should just fvk off and dropbtheir silly claim.

My time difference between continents, coupled with two pressing projects is in the way of my need to participate in here more regularly. I do want to leave some inputs on the table, in line with other important issues we are collecting for deliberation.

First before going into the topics I do want to remind and encourage my brothers and sisters about the cosmic powers potent in numerical numbers "twos" and "threes". Im not asking for you to practice esoteric beliefs but it is useful to be spiritually awake to energy. They do wonders and help open the psyche to things that ordinarily would be impercetible otherwise.

In history, Yorubaland is a land of twos and threes. I will leave it at that and Im sure those who know more and take it as a daily practice would be able to add or elaborate if necessary.

Now, taking a deep dive into mundane issues.
Ori gbe mi leke!

For simplicity here I am breaking a model society into a three-tiered production groups:

1. Those enrolled as students (full time or part time)
2. Income earners in private sector (self employed or not)
3. Government workers (facilities and utilities departments)


What does the student need to succeed while in school premise?

a. Secured environment
b. Aesthetics and textures that soften sorrounding vulgarities that can offend the senses and scar or traumatize the experience and spirit of the child
c. Mixed curriculum in academia and skillcrafts

Who facilitates these?
Government facilitators

Who does not facilitate?
Private School Administrators



Private Sector production worker (self employed or employee)

This tier of society is the lifestream of the economy. When their output productivity is high, economy is buoyant also.

What are the roadblocks that can impair their output?

a. Road condition and ease of transcommuting
b. Stable power distribution at affordable rate
c. Reliable broadband communication and network deployment
d. Potable drinking water, water utilities and proper waste management
e. Security and public awareness broadcast or alert system


Who facilitates these?
Government (facilitators/Utilities departments)



If there are any questions for me I will answer when I am able to pop back in to thread.
Cheers

dansoye1:
Ijumu Local Government Area 137,790

Kabba/Bunu Local Government Area 167,980

Mopa-Muro Local Government Area 50,840

Yagba East Local Government Area 171,530

Yagba West Local Government Area 162,570

Lokoja Local Government Area can't ascertain the number of Oworo(Okun) people there.

Source: National Population Commission of Nigeria (web).
The 2011 population projection handles states individually but not LGAs.

Okuns own Lokoja according to history. It was acknowledged as a Yoruba town as far back before Livingstone and Landers who included this fact in their journals on the exploration of Niger.

Aareonakakanfo:
[b]Hahaha so na me you dey call gbeborun bah? Kontinew

But you know we can't keep stressing Dipo.There's a lot to talk about.Look at this thread for example,we haven't discussed 10% of our problems and we're already past 300 pages.Obviously sending Dipo random messages is not enough.We have to be consistent with the conversation and I don't think there are better platforms to have long-term conversations than forums

As per South-west leaders,I just don't understand.There are just soo many angles to look at it from.The dwindling oil revenue,their inability to mine their own resources,population and other factors.That's why I laugh at them "One Nigeria" people.Each region has its own problems but unfortunately our brothers up north have got the country inside their pockets despite being the ones who created the mess.The Hausa-fulani oligarchy are the only ones against regionalism.

I agree with you on implementation and that's why before I start getting serious once again here,Dipo and his colleagues need to be here.I'm getting bored of the fantasy league lol.One thing I'm proud of regarding this thread is that we've been able to make people more Pro-Yoruba.There are some people who came from romance section A lot of people have become aware of DAWN as well.Yorubas are now seeing reasons why we need to be on our own.Its a long process,we shall get there.

Mummy bobo I sight you [/b]

You are correct Aare. When tasks or goals are not ordered and given priority they appear monumental. Chop it down to managable bites and tackle the bites in a chained order.

Lets list all issues and vote TOP 3 to give to Dapo. He will appreaciate the effort and be motivated than to have twenty things thrown at him. It speaks well of our own preparedness, organization and noble intent.

Just my five cents my brother.

Karlovich:
My people let us start agitating for a sophisticated and progressive Odu'a republic. I want us to be as brave as the ibos....if ibos are cowards, they won't be fighting for biafra all these years....

Mind you the rest of nigerians are cowards, not the ibos...it is the British who won the biafran war because British consider Nigeria their property....

Eastern nigeria is British property but biafra is not....Biafra is more or less considered an ibo man property, hence the British refusal to let go....

Nigeria as whole is a British property, and among these slaves, it only the ibos who want freedom, just as it has always been during the slave trade...ibos are not slaves and can never be a slave. ...

I am agitating for my yoruba people to wake up and stop being slaves and O'yes to anything

How many yorubas are agitating for odua republic? How many Hausa / Fulani are agitating for arewastan? How many ijaw is agitating for ijaw republic? Then ask yourselves, my people, how many ibos want to be a Nigeria?

My people stop being Dunces of the century ...Join me and musiwa to agitate for our sophisticated and progressive Odu'a republic

Ode. You need principle underfoot when you take a step and declare self-rule. Ibos are not out here because they are brave. Their fear of whats to become their future in the new political mix is why they are out chanting, no more, no less! If Jonathan had won a mothfckng Ibo will not be out shouting ipob.

Murtala actually went to two schools. He transferred from one in Kano to Zaria. The one in Kano he transferred from is where Abacha graduated from.

The Human Rights Foundatiin, the Human Rights Forum, The Defense of Human Rights, Coalition for Human Rights.... Human Rights this, Human Rights that

Why cant all these Ibo Human Rights group first free the osu in alaibo from bondage before they worry about freeing Ibo from the zoo?

FreeGlobe:
The bold, Impossible

Freepousy,
Babaloke lo ma pa e!

Before Cocoa, Yorubaland was the cotton bed for West Africa.

Exports from Yorubaland,
Cotton
Palm Oil

raumdeuter:
I am mostly concerned about Odua nation. Nigeria is way too complex that even good ideas get shot down because of jealousy or that because people dont just understand what they want.

It depends on their historical setting some places dont have a history to hook on to. I think I believe its workable in most places in Nigeria especially in the North and middle belt. Its easier to be joined together with people you share the same ancestry.

Raum,
Speaking of North, where is rhino?

modath:
It is when we get rregional autonomy that we will face the Ogun people who have been marginalizing the rest of us politically since time immemorial......
From Papa Awo to OBJ to Shonekan to PYO, the ogun folks have stopped the rest of us from developing, the lack of equity & justice is mind numbing, we will secede..

...MKO!

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CHRISTALLITE:
Okay Sir.

I will appreciate it.
I will surely go if am called.

No,I haven't apply for any scholarship,please put me through.

Put you through what, application for scholarship??
Please go to the govt secratariat and get that started.

By birthright as a Yoruba, you have rights to scholarship for education but your eligibility will need to be proven to get it. You cannot leave your birthright wasted and turn to internet begging for help.

Take what belongs to you!

Katsumoto:


Let's first establish that you aren't a squatter. When did your forebears get to Lagos?

Katz,
My forbears set foot on Eko the same rainy season of the year the Carlos I, King of Portugal lost five merchant ships to gale winds in the Gulf of Guinea. They called my great great grandfather on the rescue mission to save lives. As reward Carlos started trading with Eko, christening it Lagos and established diplomatic exchange.

Nobody merges anything until Im properly compensated. Besides, 7heads of goats have to be sacrificed as well to call the ancestors and see if they agree to this merger or not. Mind you, the money compensation is non refunded if they reject the merger.

Katsumoto:
Excellent question

Simple answer - Because Yoruba chieftains can't put the Yoruba interests above their selfish interests.

Merging of states would solve this issue of bloated civil services.
Why can't Ogun merge Lagos, Oyo with Osun, and Ondo with Ekiti?

Have three big states with more autonomous LGs for outreach to citizens?

You want to merge Lagos with where

You must first pay me, Mayor, omo onile fees.

modath:
Mayor, I don't even look their way, they are too hyperbolic, uncultured & so disconnected from reality, it is not even funny..... But I enable my sister with LIKES, that high definition chic is a beta pikin.


My mamas are abi oja gborogboro, no air formation or broom jumping tinz..

Lmao.
I had to ask. Theres no shame in "Awon Iyami Oshoronga's" business, not after watching Avatar and see how white people glamorize flying through "Igbo Irunmole" on the back of "egbere".

Respect fun Awon Iya jare!

CHRISTALLITE:
Sir,sincerely I haven't raise anything tangible.

No,the government is not aware.
I am a Yoruba indigene.

Sir,you are right,there could be others who would tend to follow suit,but presently it seems I am the only one clamouring for help,I wouldn't have gone public,if I have the means,but Sir,I have gotten no means.
But do kindly help me out.
If anyone come again for assistance, if you can,you could help them,but if you are not chanced,I believe they would find help elsewhere by GOD'S Grace.

Sir,in anyway you can help me,I will surely appreciate it Sir.

I understand, there is no need to placate me. First of all, im not a sir.

If govt is told about you they will invite you in and give proper interview to collect info and assess your needs, not just your ability to pay for enrollment but also your maintenance and future needs to complete undergrad program. Each state has scholarship program to care for situations like this.

If they call you to go to a govt agency, are you able to? Have you applied for scholarship?

zimoni:
Okay Sir.

I believe it's wrong for the Biafrans to protest in Lagos. I believe they are only looking for trouble, they want to involve us in their agitation which I believe does not concern us.

I don't know where I got it wrong.

Thanks.

My brother i probably preempted your intent. Accept my apology.

I thought you were saying to accomodate their planned march but not oppose it for the risk it would degenerate into face off.

My bad!

CHRISTALLITE:
Ejo eran mi lowo!
Please help my future.

Christalite,
How much have you raised so far from this effort?

Is the govt aware of your efforts? I believe Lagos have a SOS slush fund that a Fashola dipped in occassionally to help Ibos. Your need should be brought to Ambode's attention.

I want to contribute to your fund but you can imagine that it could open channel for undesirable elements to abuse the assistance.

Katsumoto:
There will always be issues. The real issue stems from greed and ego.

Re-drawing state lines is a small issue. I actually believe that most African nations should re-draw their borders along homogenous boundaries similar to many European nations. Now, I am not saying that each Ethnic Group should have its own nation but where practical, boundaries should be re-drawn. In the short term, there will be pain but I believe in the long run, the benefits would outweigh the pain. Take a look at East Africa where Ethnic Groups cross borders to support their Ethnic Groups in other countries.

Considering that most of these states were created by military leaders, wouldn't it make sense for these issues to be re-visited? Can's these issues be reviewed together with the larger issue of the Structure of Nigeria?

It is time Nigerian legislathieves start earning some part of the obscene wages they are paid.

But of course, this is just a waste of time.

It will take a revolutionary energy stemming from conservatists to deliver such transformations. ...the type witnessed in the 60s when Agbekoya seized the Western Parliament and paralyzed government.

OnReflection:
Nah, I have never held a one dimensional view of our northern compatriots. I know enough about West African history not to peddle any simplistic assertions beyond "inoffensive" and jocular musings.

I will say this much though; I despair at the number of northern children who are not enrolled in schools, and fear for what this connotes for the country's future stability. The religious fervour which has turned the political class in 12 states into theocrats (at least on paper) is also not fully appreciated in my view. More on this later.

Im trying to stay out of commentaries on Northerners.
Their understanding of scholarship is far richer in the North than ours.

They see scholarship as a true study of man and nature and they preoccupy themselves with reconciliation of the two. They do not see western education as a superior academy to their trsditional cult of madrasa teachings.

Can you imagine if Yoruba would see Ifa teachings as a better scholarship for us than western education?

modath:
Dino is in the Senate to lick Saraki's boots...

I remember i said it some few pages ago that the Igalas are not here for any other tribe to govern Kogi...

The beauty inherent in Living in FCT & being a social animal with a penchant for drawing people out of their shells easily is that one feels a bit of what makes some tribes tick...

You rightly allude to the anambra Saga, Igalas are tough nuts to crack!! Won san lori gan..


As per my mamas, i have gone to our meeting place to throw them the bait but they are mighty scared of politics board..

One of our biuriful mamas said she was about to call the other mamas to raise a prayer group for me when Emptyglobe opened a thread on itself & their fellow romanis gathered like a wake of cackling vultures & were firing their relatives & loved ones curses.

Sooner than soon, my yoruba sis will come in... on that thread , muslim, christian, osu ibo, egun or ibarapa, don't matter. ... Everyone comports themselves well. ...

Get some insurance and fortify yaself if you want to make it a duty to assault and flog monkees online...or even face to face.

Speaking about mamas...the ground commandos or the air formations?

In another news....I found something on Ilaje and a very important and laudible role they played between Bini and Lagos.

When an Oba dies in Lagos, after the rituals are performed to debrief his body, the head is kept in Lagos but the body is transported back to Bini for burial in the Omo N Oba palace. Ilajes have the special role of shipping the headless body back and performing special rites along the way till the body is delivered at Bini. They are also delegated with the official duty of bringing paraphernalia of office from Bini to coronate a new Oba in Lagos.

Zimoni,
Because of the seclusion which tradition demands, not many people can, or have seen the Ooni. It's a Big deal when you actually touch him. Normally that would be a moment of record and no photographer should miss such memorable split second contacts.....the class of photographers we have are not trained with that consciousness. After Oba Oyekan passed I looked through his albums and not one had a picture of him with a baby in his arm or a child on his lap....that part of his heart and cheerfulness with children was not recorded and children were always welcomed there. There were diplomats that would visit and bring their children to see the king and they took puctures.

Touching an Ooni is one of a kind experience...a spectacular that really should have been recorded on film.

9ja crip,
Congratulations to the new Ooni and all the High Priests of Ife.

Congratulations to you as well being a member of the Priest family.

I congratulate Yorubaland and Omoluabi everywhere.

Thanks also for bringing those pictures, very nice and worthy. I particularly liked the one you took with his gaze fixed directly in the lens, I wish there was more lighting....that's a classic cover shot!

When the coronation is all done I would like you to create an album thread for Ooni Ogunwusi in Culture section. Give it any title that suits you. Let's extoll Ile Ife.

Please shed light on the following for me.

1. There's a shrine in Isale Eko called Idita. Some call it Idito. This shrine is believed to have been transplanted by Olofin. Before coronation an Oba must visit and perform some rituals here, facilitated by Araba. Egungun, Agemo all stop here and give homage. In the Tapa cult there is an Igunnu called Salumangi (Salumogi)...the very short Igunnu...when Igunnu cult comes out, Salumogi steps forward and pays homage at Idita. When Oro comes out they also visit the shrine. The most dramatic is the appearance of Adimu at Idita. Adimu's presence here is more than paying homage...the whole purpose of him coming out is to visit Idita...nothing more, and he spends upward of 30minutes inside.

Of all these, only three have access to the interior - Oba, led by Araba; Adimu and Oro.

There seem to be a parallel of these acts and figures in Ife.

What is the link?

2. What is the significance of the trident in the white staff held by Ooni?

A non serving Senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, Gbenga Obadara, who represented Ogun Central Senatorial District under the platform of SDP during the 7th legislature has opened a new private radio station in the state.

Journalism has become toxic.
Which one be non serving Senator Is that a new title?