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Dude, I just saw the Ojude Oba festival post from Sept. I love the diffetent fraternities and sororities and their colors....that was a show! Where is ....who was asking about Kosoko earlier? Go and read about Kosoko and Fidipote and how they ganged up and almost succeed in banishing British from this land . What a coincidence, just talked about it. So the Dyvkson must hisvfather name if the mother is from Ijebu. |
ProfShymex:Oh wow! Well, it is true now. Is it not? |
Hey shymmex, Rememberbthat jazz selectionbyou had last week or so..? Was that online radio or youtube subacription? That melody was intoxicating bro! |
ProfShymex:A wise man once told me if the last money on woman is 5pounds, youd think she will pinch and stretch it on food till she gets more money....No! She will enter a boutique and two hours later she will reappear, minus 5pounds. The first sucker she bats eyelashes at will be sponsoring her feed the entire week! The power of deceipt! |
Shymmex, I hear Seriake Dickson, Bayelsa Governor, said his late mother is Ijebu. Is this true?. |
OnReflection:Greetings pardner. Mayor is not in the business of providing references on Sunday. You can be patient till Monday, perchance my mood will be brightened by the prospects of making some gains in trade and in the delirium of such resulting joy have the spirit to oblige this request. ![]() |
The history of a people determines their desires, expectations, and group behaviour as a people. The Yoruba people have had a great history in the world. About 500 years before the earliest European exploration of the coast of West Africa in about 1500 AD, or about 1000 years before the coming of British imperialism in about 1900 AD, the Yoruba had built a rich and sophisticated urban civilization – the most advanced urban civilization in the history of Black Africa. Upholding this urban civilization was a great economic culture – sophisticated and highly productive agriculture, rich manufactures and crafts, and great commerce with tentacles reaching into most parts of tropical Africa. Yoruba trading colonies existed in the lands of the Upper Niger (modern Mauritania, Gambia, Senegal and Mali), in all coastal lands of West Africa, in the towns of the Hausa, Nupe and Kanuri, all the way to parts of the Upper Nile and the headwaters of the Congo. In a large part of West Africa, the Yoruba language was the language of commerce. A senior French missionary who visited much of the West African coast between 1634 and 1640 wrote that the Yoruba language “is universally used in these parts, just like Latin in Europe”. Inside Yorubaland itself, large towns flourished. The first Europeans to enter into the Yoruba interior (a group of explorers in 1825-6), wrote that “large towns at the distance of only a few miles from each other” characterized the whole of Yorubaland, and that most of the towns were “densely inhabited” and were “clean habitations”. The approach to almost every town was “through an avenue of noble trees”, and in each town, public places were abundantly decorated with works of art, especially sculptures. These explorers added that the Yoruba people “have a genius for the art of sculpture…and some of their productions rival, in point of delicacy, any of a similar kind…in Europe”. The whole country was connected by a cobweb of well-kept and safe roads, protected by the governments of the kings. Where necessary, armed guards sent by the kings accompanied caravans of traders. On these roads, large numbers of traders and their porters were on the move at all times, day and night, usually in caravans numbering hundreds of people. A European missionary wrote that, near Ibadan in 1854, he travelled with a caravan that numbered over 4000 persons. An American missionary who travelled extensively in Yorubaland about the same time, wrote that if caravans happened to merge, “imposing numbers” of people stretched “over several miles in length” across the countryside. Along roads throughout the country, there were, wrote the 1825-6 explorers, “rich plantations of yams”, “extensive plantations of corn and plantains”, “plantations of cotton”, many “acres of indigo”, etc. In their summary, they wrote that the Yoruba people were “an industrious race”. Every town had large marketplaces, each heavily crowded when in session. A Dutch trader who visited some of the marketplaces between 1702 and 1712 recorded that there were, “without exaggeration more than six thousand” people in one marketplace. In one large town, the 1825-6 explorers counted seven marketplaces. In parts of the country, some marketplaces specialized in night-time trading. One American explorer wrote that the goods produced in “the Mediterranean and Western European coast…and the productions of the four quarters of the globe” could be found in every Yoruba marketplace. Over all this order and prosperity, kings (or Obas) of the many Yoruba kingdoms reigned. The Yoruba founded their first kingdom (the Ife kingdom) in about 900AD; and between that date and 1600AD, they founded over 70 kingdoms more. In about 1600, one of their kingdoms, the kingdom of Oyo-Ile, expanded its territories, conquered many non-Yoruba peoples, and established the largest empire in West Africa. The political system of the Yoruba was considerably democratic. An Oba’s government was government by a council of chiefs – the chiefs being representatives of the extended family groups (or lineages) of the royal city. Apart from the lineages, society in each town was organized into many associations. The whole system made each town a home of peace and order, of enterprise, of commerce, of entertainments, of large and colourful festivals. The 1825-6 explorers wrote that the Yoruba people were a peaceful people who loved order, who had great respect for the law, who had a lot of self-respect, and who were generally clean in their clothing and in their personal appearances. They recorded that, unlike in other parts of Africa, they could not persuade any Yoruba young men to carry their older explorers for them in a hammock, for any amount of pay whatsoever. When approached for this, Yoruba boys always answered that that was “a task fit only for horses”. Living in these systems and conditions made the average Yoruba person a freedom-loving – and a fashion-loving – individual. In meetings at every level in the system, the guiding principle was that everybody had full freedom to speak – that everybody, young or old, “has some wisdom to contribute”. All the world over, kings are succeeded by their offspring – usually their first child – and the citizens have no voice in the matter. In contrast, the Yoruba select their Obas from the pool of princes. All the people of the lineage compounds, in open lineage meetings, selected the chiefs. All these made the Yoruba person a very confident person – confident in his person, confident in society, accustomed to being respected by those who ruled over him. Yoruba women enjoyed more respect than women in most other cultures. The fact that Yoruba women controlled most of the enormous trade of their country contributed to making them free and enterprising, and made them control much more of their country’s wealth than women in most cultures in the world. The above, briefly, is a sketch of where the Yoruba have come from. To understand Yoruba behaviour in the affairs of Nigeria, one must understand these things. In the politics of Nigeria, the Yoruba may look “disunited”, but in reality, they are solidly united in their ideals and purposes. So, what do the Yoruba want for themselves and for Nigeria? First, the Yoruba want governments that are dedicated to the welfare and prosperity of their people. That is why the Western Regional government of the Awolowo era – 1952-62, is revered among Yoruba people today – and will probably be revered forever. Secondly, the Yoruba individual wants to be free in society, and to be able to make political choices and express himself freely. That is why Yoruba people usually look as if they are divided in the political life of Nigeria. But they are not divided; they are only more democratic than most other peoples. Thirdly, the Yoruba person desires that the rulers of his society should respect him. That is why Yoruba people always feel insulted and very angry when powerful politicians come and rig their votes at elections. It is why Yoruba people have put up most of the violent responses to the rigging of elections in the history of Nigeria. Fourthly, the Yoruba person wants to feel free to practice any religion of his own choice without molestation by anybody. That is why Yoruba people of all religions are very nervous about the perpetual Islamic radicalism from the Northern Region. Fifthly, Yoruba people strongly desire an orderly country. They therefore want the various nations of Nigeria, large or small, to be given due recognition and respect, and they want that the constitution of Nigeria should enshrine such recognition and respect. This is why the Yoruba elite have always advocated a rational federal structure for Nigeria – a federation based, as much as possible, on ethnically compact states, and in which the states will have the resources and constitutional powers to promote the development of their people. It is also why, though the Yoruba enjoy population strength and many other kinds of strength in Nigeria, they have never desired to dominate any other nation or to dominate the whole of Nigeria. Their rich civilization teaches them to despise any notion of ethnic domination, or any claim of ethnic dominance, as uttermost folly, a kind of destructive folly that endangers any nation that holds it, and that will ultimately make Nigeria unworkable and impossible to keep together. Finally, the Yoruba desire that individual Nigerians should be free and safe to live and do business anywhere in Nigeria. That is why they smoothly welcome very many non-Yoruba immigrants in their homeland. The Yoruba always give careful respect to other people in whose land they go to trade or do business, and they expect other people who come to trade or do business in their land to respect them also. The Yoruba are strongly united around these principles. Leaders may come and go, but the generality of Yoruba people remain united over what they love and desire. |
interloper:Who was the author? |
modath:You see! What did I tell you? Biafrans and Ileke roll like garri and groundnut...if you had one you distress at not having the other. ![]() |
tpiadotcom:Yeeeeeeeeeeee,!!!!! Ive missed you, Ileke missed you, Aare missed you, shymmex has not eaten since last time he saw you. ![]() |
interloper:I didnt live in his time but if i did i would have joined in his resistance army to fight Beecroft assault and invasion. He was feared and even though he repeatedly violated the accord of ceasefire and attacked Lagos many times from exile the ego and bragging rights of the British Navy was deeply dented on account.of their losses in battleships and sailors, as well as decorated officers when they bombarded Lagos in 1851. There were accounts also of portuguese traders who had sailed from Lagos with human cargoes to Brazil and suffered loss and ended up indebted to Kosoko. They were so scared of returning without his full money that they got injunction from the courts for protection against his anger. John Beecroft, who had served as the Queen's Consul in foreign lands and used to being received with respect and parade, was taken aback at the reception he received from Oba of Lagos. There is lots in his history. Yoruba kings of that time had white slaves...they did not see white man as a superior race. I dont know that this Oba kept white slaves or not but as bad as the Ijebus were and completely protective of their waters and access rights i would not be surprised the Awujale kept some white slaves. British navy had more resistance and headache with the Ijebus than they did with anyone else. I know Egbas threw criminals in prison, white or black, they could care less. If those were the leaders we have today, minus slavery, wed be in good hands. |
InyinyaAgbaOku:Who do.you dominate in US? |
IlekeHD:Qelvin was glued here because of you. ![]() If i see him near you....his already short thangy will be trimmed even shorter. I guarantee it. ![]() |
CabbieAC:I dont know these two, not saying they are not who they claim...i dont know for a fact. But there is no family compound with name of bada or tahiru. They probably have other known indigenous names. Im about to vamoose shortly and.go read. |
modath:Modath, eku ojumo o! This thread, I dont think Aare knew it would turn out this way. Thi is a soul train of histotical perspectives. It were on a track and sittin in Jebba when you went to bed, by time you wake from sleep it should just be pulling in to Bode Wasimi station. Very fast on the roll! ![]() Ileke spent too much time under the sheets with Ibo and got.her pa and kpa crossed. She needs Jesus! |
CabbieAC:Kabiyesi, you sure say i no know you?? First of all, Lagos Island is very small and it doesnt matter how over populated it is, the ancestral homes will still be there. They might rebuild but it is there. I dont think there is any family in Island....indigenes....that I dont know their compound or Iga. From Ebute Alagbafo to Ebute Elefun, from Lafiaji to Campos, from Olowogbowo back to Ebute Alagbafo....thats the entire perimeter! Mention any hood anywhere inbetween and Ive covered it and know the families. This is why Ibo should fear me because when my Mayorship is vestitured Ibo will be in trouble. I will deport them completely out of Nigeria...to Congo! |
IlekeHD:Is he implying that he was able to pay salaries? |
CabbieAC:I went to Arabic school with a Durosinmi Etti when I was little. Their family house is on Odunfa stteet in Island. In fact, at the corner of Odunfa and Evans street. Named Hakeem. Across the street is the family house of Olorunimbe - last Mayor of Lagos......of course Im the new one. Lol |
CabbieAC:Oh yeah i am |
Add Lt. General Azubuke Ihejirika to the list of those condemning it. |
Their facial scars look like acid burns. Like they were head dipped in a bucket of acid. May their souls rest in peace! |
Qelvin:I heard your leaders disowned Biafra. Is this correct? |
CabbieAC:Thats the son or grandson. LEDB has been folded into LSDPC. My brother, aye Ibo oni suwon! We have no clue how bad our situation is today until you go back and read the promises ahead for us in the 40s, 50s and 60s. Ibo did coup and fvckd everything up when they installed military as the new order of power and supremacy in this country. Ko baje fun Ibo. Look, I discovered that Tinubu is actually reliving Awolowo's style of leadership. The crop of leadership and grooming he got going now was a fast track development plan first introduced by Awo. This is what produced the synergy of developments in Ilupeju, Ikeja, Apapa, and so on. The government houses in Shitta and Akerele and Adeniran Ogunsanya were relocations from Lagos Island. There was overcrowding in Island and lack of proper ventilation and planning led to a plague in the 30s. This is what gave birth to LEDB and Wole Wole (health inspectors) under a Lagos Local Govt Act. They are municipal projects and therefore Lagos Town Council got involved to decongest and depopulate central Lagos.....Oko Awo to be precise! The settlers in Shitta and Akerele were transits from Lagos Island. When military got power, they mismanaged lands and destroyed plans and forecasted development goals that were on the table in West. They stalled our progress so others can catch up. 50Yrs going mothfckrs have not even sighted our heels not to talk of catchup....and everytime we attempt to fast track forward we step on thorns spread in our path to force us into perpetual slooowww mmoootiooonnn!! ![]() Baba lo ma pa Ibo!! ![]() |
CabbieAC:You are young and cant remember shyyyt. Lol! That was Ajao! Im glad you mentioned that firld. Look my brother...Yoruba needs to take stock of past and make on decision on where we are headed. Do you know who Habeeb Fasinro is? He served and was peer with Mayor of Lagos Olorunimbe in the days of Lagos City Council. While they were in the city council, Adeniran Ogunsaya and Femi Okunnu were Federal Ministers. This was the age when Surulere was born as a new outcrop to develop and expand new settlements away from Lagos Island, Apapa and Yaba. Akoka at the time was a swamp. Unilag is built on swamp, its hard to discern coming into campus but you can easily tell this when you go past all the buildings and get.to the beach. Similarly, Surulere was a marshland. Surulere was intended in its design to mirror the suburbs of English villas. LEDB - Lagos Executive Development Company - was responsible for building malls, shops and markets and generally commercial real estate. LSDPC - Lagos State Development and Property Corporation - was handling residential real estate. LEDB built shop plazas at the confluence of major intersevtions and built shopping malls at residential clusters. LSDPC built high rise and townhomes and duplexes.as.well as bungalows. Surulere was the pilot for these new projects. If you go in Surulere you will see that each neighborhood area is made of streets, crecents, close, circles....and each is a replicate of the other. In the circles is where you have built homes arranged around a central recreation area reserved as playground for neighbourhood children and for gathering for residents events. This field you talked about by Jubril Martins was called Ajao Circle or Crescent or something but ...and I can see it vividly and that entirw area was the perfect model showcasing what these leaders of the 60s had in mind to do for Yoruba progress. That and the entire stretch of residential neighborhoods from Alhaji Masha by Akerele and till you get to Adeniran Ogunsaya shopping complex by Eagle club. The Governors need to bring these plans back and reintroduce them in every state of this commonwealth. |
CabbieAC:Old?? Lmao...you make me laff sef. You no fit remember Mainland Primary School field for Bank Olemoh and you say you young pass me. How? You know Olajuwon family house was right there on Bank Olemoh. I dont know those guys. I think you got the names mixrd up. I believe you meant Dapo. Dapo was the father of neighbourhood soccer in Surulere and when the toss come up the winning captian always snatch him up before anyone else. He went somewhere in East Europe. His parents lived off Adeniran Ogunsaya. When i started playing snooker I hung my soccer shoes up. I played two field games with very closely resemembled play structure. Often times i left one to the other. ...and i didnt find personal reward in it so i went where the money and hussle was. The farthest i played was Lawanson, I didnt venture into Idi Araba. |
CabbieAC:Lmao!!! ![]() Do you know a guy called Muyi, he used to be popular on these grounds. His father played for NEPA back in days when soccer was leather skin and had a air bladder sewn into it. ![]() Back in the days Muyi's hangout was Iya Ibadan's compound on Ojuri and I would just sit there to side and watch them play cards and bet money. I learnt bad habits from that because when I started on snooker and got good I started wagering my school lunch money . . |
CabbieAC:Family always get my interest above anything else. We will talk about other things later but what about those two? I dont know Bada but there are twp Ettis in Lagos. Durosinmi-Etti and then there is Etti. I also want to talk to you about soccer grounds in surulere....aguda, ansarudeen, adelabu, ajao, olukole,shitta...none of them I didnt play i...including first bank grounds off Eric Moore. I played soccer and hockey there. |
CabbieAC:Im sorry if that came across too demanding, it was NOT meant to offend at all. Pardon me! Analysis and critical thinking works best when the goals are focused. In fact, I usually go with top 3 when i get ready to slap my critical thinking hat on. So lets leave it at 5 or less. We never cared about what they think or would say for the entire 280+pages....this is no time to worry about Ibo intrusion. We will get them out with no problem, and quick too! Lol. ....but, maybe we dont even need to go too deep for the issue at hand here. Look, symbolism is a b1tch! This is why branding is the biggeat marketing tool in human history. Everytime you mention Nigerian socccer outside it is symbolized with Ibo, the issue of Yoruba is better is mute. Convincing anybody that Yoruba is a better than Ibo in soccer would be hard to swallow seeing that your national team has for past five years or longer being dominated by Ibos. In politics, we were not the face of National power for 8yrs....but we are now. How did we accomplish that? Do the same thing in soccer.....stop focusing too much on making the team and strategize more on being the one at top that selects the team. Das all! |
CabbieAC:Are there things that Yoruba are better in than Ibos? Give me top 5! List them right now. |
interloper:....become the decision maker! |
Katsumoto:Popo Aguda ke?? Ahhh..ok o! Thats too close!! From Faji, Massey, Tokunbo, Kakawa, Odunfa.....to Campos. I can name all the family compounds for you. Lol. The Ferreiras, Salavadores, Savages, Vaughans, Willoughbys, Browns, Soares, Fernandez...all the way to Iron gate in upper Tokunbo Street. The on the other side of Broad street, the Davies', Randles, DaSilvas, Williams', Smithys... Good to know brother. ![]() |
IyaIode:OPC has a definitive goal which is protection and defense of the commonwealth. The allegiance is to Ile-Ife, no where else. OPC is not waging a war of ideology, but rather that of justice! Their jihad, if I may call it that, is to live and let live. They do not desire to force faith, conscience, doctrine or creed on anyone. |
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