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RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 5:29am On Feb 19, 2011
pro01:
^^

Nwanyi Oma. I hope that is your true orientation in 'real life'. If only more women were like that. But to be very honest, I wish all HUMANS were like that. People worship money too much (especially in Nigeria) - fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, friends, neighbours, even in the churches and elsewhere. God help us.

Concerning the topic, one thing that just came to my mind is that the kind of woman that would happily marry a broke man, and remain truly happy afterwards  is one that doesn't really care about material things. Incredible as it sounds, there are indeed women (less than 1%) who really do not care about riches and comfort. All they want is a quiet life with a man they love whether they live in a hut or in a mansion. I've realized that the women who marry struggling guys they 'love' in the hope that such guys might become millionaires in the near future (because of supposed 'prospects' and whatnot) are the ones likely to become disillusioned when things don't work out as envisaged. It is therefore often best for a woman to lower her future expectations in that regard. _ _ _ _ _


---------- As such, any woman that chooses to marry a broke guy whom she truly loves should do so without banking on his 'prospects' or hopes for future riches. Life has no guarantees. Just marry and hope for the best while also expecting the worst - with the mindset of 'I love him so much that I'd rather suffer happily with him, than enjoy unhappily with someone else'. A woman that ordinarily craves the good things of life (fine cars, lovely houses, expensive jewellery and clothes, vacations, and other vanities) but hooks up a poor man because of supposed 'love' and 'prospects' is sure to sooner or later start frustrating his life, cheating on him, and humiliating him if he doesn't achieve the expected financial breakthrough soon enough. I know that for a fact.
bhusayor:
hmnn,what a wonderful write up,but i doubt if any lady can get married to a poor man without such expectations,everybody wants a good life,  not just for yourself but for your kids and the one you love as well, thats why any lady  who considers marrying a poor man does so because he has prospects and all and she has it at the back of her mind that its definitely gonna get better. Love alone isnt enough to sustain marriage.
@Pro01. That was a master piece contribution. It seems you studied human Psychology. The type of woman that will marry a poor man without too much expectation you said are less than 1%. I con-core !!!

@bhusayor, Your reply to @Pro01 is apt, candid and precise. I guess you are also a trained Psychologist.  Every one expects good life.Above all " Love alone isnt enough to sustain marriage". I agree with you completely.

However, I will add, there is a very small percentage of men (man or woman) who have such expectations but are humbled by life experiences. They accept the condition they find themselves, though not what they want, yet they are not ready to complain. Hence, the women in this group joins the less that 1% @Pro01 was talking about.

Therefore, men look for ladies that fall into the first group of less than 1% or the other group that joins them. It boils down to sher luck to find such women, especially in Nigeria.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 1:01pm On Feb 18, 2011
roymary:
@Poster

Diary of a confused man. Why would your friend choose humiliation? No money= no marriage! This is not the girls calling, but how is he going to run the house without cash?

Seriously, don't marry if you don't have money.In this context, your age don't count one bit.
Why do you think[b] "No money= no marriage."[/b]. One Igbo parlance said, Anayi anu otuebe ekiri manwu' Direct translation means that you don't stay one place to watch a Masquerade. The Bible said that we shall not remain in sin for grace to abound.

What all this means is that you have to try another phase of life. He has remained unmarried and the good Job could not come. His father and brothers decided to help him get a wife, may be God will smile on him when he is married. Some people get married and the door open.

I don't think it is a bad idea to try to get married at 33.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 4:46am On Feb 18, 2011
^^^ I'll yank U off my thread if u continue denning.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 4:08am On Feb 18, 2011
^^^ Yes, you did.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 3:56am On Feb 18, 2011
The point of it is, everyone has PREFERENCE even you.  If you have a stipulation on what type of woman you will not marry or will marry how come the woman can't have stipulation of what type of man she want or will not marry. 

What make your PREFERENCE any better than hers even if you think it is ridiculous?  Exactly, you can't. 

So again, if you won't marry a barren woman why should a woman marry a broke man?  Preferences are NEVER SIMILAR and everybody has them.  REGARDLESS IF YOU AGREE WITH THE PREFERENCE OR NOT. 


I wonder why the men getting upset with women not wanting broke men when they have SOME OF THE STUPIDIEST poo they will not marry for.  Get off of it people.
Mrs.Chima:
You need to tighten up your game NEGRO.  Not one time I said Broke=Barren.  If you need help with your quoting skills.  Let me help you.

Now, REGARDLESS IF YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT----my statement still stand .  So you can either cry over it or move the bleep on.
What is the difference. It is implied in your statement.  You are equating being broke with being barren by saying that if a man could not marry a woman because  she is barren, then a woman should not marry a man because he is broke.

The conclusion (Broke=Barren) is based on the premise.  However, you are entitled to your own opinion. The only problem there is that I don't agree with that opinion.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 2:25am On Feb 18, 2011
sashaa:
Ah, hah, i just thought of something here. what do u all have to say about men that marry for physical beauty? Aren't they the same as women that marry for money?

Please, note that i ain't in support of neither.
@Mrs Chima said people have preferences!.  @Chaircover said its their choice. They are right in their opinion.

You are asking if men that marry for physical beauty are same with women that marry for money.
My answer is yes, although it depends on how you look at it.

When you marry for for money or beauty you leave other people who don't have that to question their God why are they not that endowed. Another reason why I think it is the same is because both are selfish, materialistic or physical. But they have made your choice. A "man" who marry for beauty alone cheated himself

This is better than "Broke = Barren" @Mrs. Chima was suggesting in this thread.
RomanceRe: Can You Marry A Girl That Has Had An Abortion? by MBG4Real(m): 6:47pm On Feb 17, 2011
If you don't give a hoot as you said, then you should't be asking for a second opinion.

However, for me, it depends on the circumstances surrounding how I met her .

If she confirms it, I will lose some interest though, but my final decision will be

seriously weighed after consulting Doctors and God.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 6:39pm On Feb 17, 2011
Mrs.Chima:
The point of it is, everyone has PREFERENCE even you.  If you have a stipulation on what type of woman you will not marry or will marry how come the woman can't have stipulation of what type of man she want or will not marry.  

What make your PREFERENCE any better than hers even if you think it is ridiculous?  Exactly, you can't.  

So again, if you won't marry a barren woman why should a woman marry a broke man?  Preferences are NEVER SIMILAR and everybody has them.  REGARDLESS IF YOU AGREE WITH THE PREFERENCE OR NOT.  


I wonder why the men getting upset with women not wanting broke men when they have SOME OF THE STUPIDIEST poo they will not marry for.  Get off of it people.
Yes, people have preferences, but that is why we goto school, and socialize so as to correct erroneous preferences.
If your child prefers to steal or, lets make it simpler, if your child prefers not to take his birth or wash his teeth, will you let him. Wouldn't you make effort to correct those preferences.

What we are saying is that people should not be having such negative preferences.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 6:27pm On Feb 17, 2011
Tinax:
yes we all know that no condition is permanent, But how will you feel, Fathers,mothrs,brothers,uncles, etc. if after spending huge resources traing a girl in schl and she comes home one day with a 17k salary earnr as her husband to be.Bet you'll look her twice and ask her to do beter, abeg make all the posters condemin the girl answer me quick, quick. Lets tell ourselves the truth, the guy should think of beterin his life first befor proposin. I even see him as a lazy man 33yrs and yet can't lay his hands on something reasonabl,is it at 40 that he'll sit up. thats why i like my igbo brothr,him for don entr mushin go hustle and be happy to get a girl who is ready to spend the money wt him happily,  i don talk finish!!
What are you talking about?. You are reasoning is irrational.


Mrs.Chima:
Not everybody are spiritual nor into God.
You may be right, but majority run to him when the see problem.  "Oh my God" is a popular exclamation

@Mrs Chima, Trust in God (or Allah) It is the only business that has no loss.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 6:16pm On Feb 17, 2011
chaircover:
When my husband and I got married he didn't have a car, Infact our first car was a £550 banger LOL. When we had our baby, we couldn't afford to buy a cot. Baby and I slept on the bed while hubby slept on one of my wrappers on the floor. I rememebr that My mum bought our first freezer  grin

And although this is very personal, I am sharing this story so that someone somewhere who is probably at crossroads can seek encouragement from it and make a wise decision.

I married my husband because he was a good kind man of integrity and a hardworking man with prospects and of course I loved him. People said all sorts at the time but I didnt listen some even called him a gold digger. Today I am enjoying that decision. He is a husband, brother, father, friend all rolled into one.

Today he earns much much more than I earn, I only work part time (he told me to reduce my hours & to stop stressing myself) and I now run a business that I enjoy.  He is still the dependable solid man that I married back then and he treats me like an equal rather than a gloried slave.

Yesterday afternoon we were our shopping for light fittings for our new house and I was looking at the prices before choosing, (Ijebu to the core that I am) but he noticed it and he just said to me "just pick what you really like . . . don't look at the prices, I am paying"
If I were to be a glorified slave he would go ahead and buy whatever he wants without it even crossing his mind to consult me.

Dont get me wrong, It has been an uphill struggle and there were times that we went without but eventually if you both muck in together and with the grace & favour of God, you will eventually get there.

What I have noticed is that it is here in the romance section that you see " I cant do this for any man" " I cant cook for my boyfriend" "he has to be rich" etc but the reality is that these same people pop up 3 years later in the family section with a new ID saying that their husbands don't treat them well.

If anyone here has a broke but good boyfriend/fiance, please do not throw him away but help him to grow. It will be a tough struggle but you will both reap the reward in the long run.
This is a master piece contribution.  Although everyones case may not be the same.  People should be courageous and trust in the supreme being we call GOD. Most of the time it gets better than worse.

Thank you for those inspirational words.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 4:28pm On Feb 16, 2011
shooze:
Lol. Oya oh how many of you will marry a woman you know is barren. Afterall love accepts all
Mrs.Chima:
I guess because the men sorry arse want a woman to feel sorry for him enough to marry him.

IF a man won't marry a barren woman, why would a woman marry a broke man? Let be real people.
Although many men will not accept to marry a barren woman, it is not the same. If a woman is declared barren after several medical tests, it is more or less a permanent condition. (Unless there is a miracle). But this my guys case is not permanent. It could get better.

That said, but I have seen couples who stayed put in marriage up to 18years without a baby. Men are more generous in love than women. It is a fact.

@Mrs. Chima, pertaining to my comment to your diversionary post on this thread, it is not a deliberate attack. But this is a public forum, don't say it if it is not what you mean. If you have a personal or private chart with a member, direct it through a better medium where people will not meddle into it. It is an advise.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 5:50am On Feb 16, 2011
swintec:
Why is Mrs Chima looking for whom to marry in this thread that was put up to discuss serious problem men face
I was about to say the same. I think she is married, or is she is just using Mr. Chima to cover up.

Good luck
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 11:48pm On Feb 15, 2011
shooze:
Thank u lex87 as someone pointed out how much does the girl earn. Let's assume she earns 15k so the joint income is 32k. I laugh in swahili .not marrying guy who earns 17k does not make u a gold digger just a realist. I would never marry a man earning 17k and I don't intend to marry an adenuga either I want a man who at least meets me halfway. As I said earlier what happens if the guy never makes it I am sure love will not turn into garri. We often act as if poverty = good man meanwhile na lie. If any man earning 17k comes my way and proposes marriage na cane I go use flog am.
And to those who will come with no wonder you are not married angle whatever . I am engaged to a man who is at least comfortable. Instead of the guy to sort himself out he wants to marry marry ko marry ni
The Girl in question, studied English Language, from one of the college of Education in the East. She is currently teaching in a private secondary school. I cannot say for sure what her salary is, but according to my friend, she earns a little more than him.  Between =N=25,000 to =N=30,000 monthly. My friend said that she complains that her own salary is not even enough for her because she is taking care of one of her Junior one in primary school.
Dating And Meet-up ZoneRe: I Need A Girlfriend by MBG4Real(m): 5:50am On Feb 15, 2011
Boy!!! You should not date underage. 15yrs haba. They are not even allowed to communicate in this forum.
Even you, you should be looking for a study mate. Concentrate in your education. When I was your age I never thought of any other thing than how to make the best results in school. I didn't have a girl friend until I was 21.

log off. drop the idea.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 5:30am On Feb 15, 2011
aminalib:
If i loved him i would eventually marry him, i would however tell him that he should go back to school for a better skill, age is a number, it means nothing when u are trying to accomplish goals(IMO) as long as you never stop trying. I make my own money with or without him i will be ok, even with his income it could help also. So if he decides to go back to school and change his career i would. I never understand why people go to school to do sociology, phychology and all these liberal arts, when at the end of the day it pays u NOTHING,(US based point of view) unless u plan to get a masters or beyond and still that is not guaranteed. I have a cousin that went to school for ARTS and now has a student loan of 50,000 USD and he has a job that pays 10.00 an hour, what a waste.
Do you mean that four years he spent in University studying Sociology is a waste? To tell someone that is desperate to balance, to go back to school is really mean. I believe this :
i know a couple of buddies that studied Political science in here in the U.S but went down to Nigeria and are both currently managing branches of commercial banks in Lagos. it's called connection, it's all about who you know, not what you know.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 5:08am On Feb 15, 2011
SOPRANO:
lol, this just prove my point that most women marry men for "comfort and Financial Gains", like a friend always say, 90% of women has a price-tag.

@ OP
       
         It's a sad predicament indeed. You indicated that your buddy read sociology, If he's in Lagos, I can make a few calls if he does not mind working for the state govt in Alausa, Ikeja. I'm not promising anything, but some high echelon of the govt owes me a few favor. Things might turn up. All the best.[b][/b]
He is in Abuja, but wouldn't mind moving to Lagos if something good crops up. Can you give me your contact. He will be glad. Thanks for your concern.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 4:29pm On Feb 14, 2011
baba77:
dnt ever make d mistake of getting married because of "age is not on my side" without a stable means of income. marital relationship is very frustrating without money; no matter d amount of love involve. so my advice is to please, sit, think of what u believe u can do as in skills, set up a trade/business, package and believe it is well with prayers instead of staying wt d 17k job dat is not half enof 4 u not to talk of girlfriend/wife.

When it comes to money, woman na woman o my brother there4, settle yr financial life first b4 embarking on marital journey.

All d best
Ok, your advise is good. But what iIf someone who married after being financially stable, looses his job, invariably, becoming financially unstable, tell me what will happen.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 12:45pm On Feb 14, 2011
Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]What's the necessity here? getting married or getting a good paying Job?[/color]
The guy wants a good job desperately. The marriage thing is secondary. He was shocked when he found out that his condition is militating against his getting married.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 6:07am On Feb 14, 2011
;d
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 9:04pm On Feb 13, 2011
Natudu:
Na wa o! What is the place of love in this relationship? Isn't real love supposed to be supportive and ''blind''?

Now for proper naija sense. If na me, i go bone the girl continue dey find work. Wen i get beta work, me go look for beta girl join.

Dis kain chic wey no wan marry your friend sake of say im no hol. Na beta girl be dat? What if your guy coins emaciate tomorrow, dis kain girl no go remove leave am?

Abeg, leave mata for mathaias. How many people get better job for naija now sef. Abi una no dey hear of minimun wage eh? Una think say na for newspaper e dey exist?
huh
PoliticsRe: Biafra - The Next New Country Of Africa After South Sudan by MBG4Real(op): 8:54pm On Feb 13, 2011
shocked
OK mod.
PoliticsRe: Biafra: Do We Need Egyptian Style Revolution To Achieve Biafra by MBG4Real(op): 3:09pm On Feb 13, 2011
ChinenyeN:
I doubt if this revolutionary trend will really hit Nigeria in such a way that 'Biafra' will be actualized.
Don't doubt, just believe it.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 3:03pm On Feb 13, 2011
tongue
lipsrsealed
PoliticsRe: Biafra - The Next New Country Of Africa After South Sudan by MBG4Real(op): 2:53pm On Feb 13, 2011
greateros:
As a young fully titled igbo chief from the homeland, I believe we should not make the mistake of breaking away. the entire Igboland cannot even contain our population. We are actually meant to be Nigerians.

Nigeria as a nation is naturally meant to be one. i guess that is why when you are in a foreign land, no matter the part of Nigeria you are from, we are easily identified as a Nigerian not a Ghanaian , nor a Cameroonian no matter how hard we try to cover our Nigerian background, it always show.
Braking away dose not mean that we must all go home. Even at that, they need us more than we need them.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 7:41am On Feb 13, 2011
undecided^^^ I said so.
RomanceRe: Would You Marry Him - Even Without A Good Job by MBG4Real(op): 11:13pm On Feb 12, 2011
p.wiz:
OP send his CV may be i cn be of help
Give me your email.

bhusayor:
In a situation like this,it depends on what you want and the guy in question,i mean the other qualities he has.I can still be in a relationship with him hopin and encouraging him that things will get better but i wont venture into marriage without financial security,@least to an extent,certain things have to be in place before marriage sets in, and to your question,even if age is not on my side,i wouldnt just leave him and then go for go for an already made man who i dont knw much about
If you can't say yes, what is the need of hanging around. You want to be a "fair weather friend". Since you believe that things can get better for him, why don't you provide the support until things gets better. You are a fake.

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