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Religion / Re: Fornication? Premarital Sex? Divorce? Break up? Rape? by Mdmelijah: 8:30am On Jan 17, 2021
Some will say, it is because of their past experience that their heart is now harden. There are princes, young men from "well to do homes" even women who become fornicators and even rapists.

Men that lust after you, when they have used you, they will hate you and dump you.

Look at the story of Tamar in 2 Samuel 13...
[written by IV]

Amnon said he "loved" Tamar, but he had a friend as crafty as the serpent, so Amnon lusted after her.

His heart was so hardened he didn't listen to her in verse 12-14, AND HE RAPED HER.

Red flag 1, he or she not only has bad friends but they give ear to bad people.

Red flag 2, just like nabal the fool, who due to his selfishness and greed, refused to aid or pay David and didn't listen to the wise words of his wife[/b], Amnon didn't listen to Tamar's plea.

When a man doesn't listen to God, nor any advice to marry instead of lusting, like Paul wrote, such a person is given to their own selfishness.
You will notice when someone doesn't really care about you but about what they want, except lust has blinded your eye as well.
(people fill with lust are either short sighted or blind)

People who are only after their desire, do anything to get it, they care not for your pain nor happiness. And like James 4 says even hurting you in the process.

Fornicators are rapists, not just of your body, but your emotions and your rights.

Lust always leads to; hatred, wrath, quarrels, unhappiness, break ups and destruction.

A nation and it's economy suffers because it's leaders are fornicators taking anything and everything due to their own desires and pleasure.
Religion / Fornication? Premarital Sex? Divorce? Break up? Rape? by Mdmelijah: 8:17am On Jan 17, 2021
Fornication is a sin.

{part 2; written by IV} [part 1: https://www.nairaland.com/6367675/what-fornication]

But is fornication pre-martial sex?

Yes and no.

Yes in the sense that married folks are expected to be committed to each other, but fornication lacks that commitment.

No in the sense, not every sex that happens before marriage is done outside commitment.

Two people can be committed to each other but their relationship is not yet recognized by family or state. In fact there are lots of pre-martial sex in the bible God didn't count as sin.

I cannot be wiser than the one who gave me wisdom, to call sin what he didn't call sin.

I have written already that what God cares about is commitment, in fact, this is the reason God hates fornication so much more than he hates prostitution.

You would see him using prostitutes or saying things like, "have you not whored yourself for free, you don't even collect money or accept any financial commitment from your male lovers".

It's still bad when it's done for material pleasure, but fornication is worse because it free fun(at an unknown cost).

Ah, God says such free fun is bad, why? Isn't this why many don't like God, the bible or his ways.
But what lusts takes away from you is more than it gives you (which I could tell you more on the relationship between lust and witchcraft,)

Now as it regards Divorce

When Jesus says But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)

That as a man you see a woman, and next thing you want to sleep with her, no commitment no nothing.
That's lust, fornication, adultery.

And that's why Jesus didn't say "wife" he said "woman".

So as a man when your only desire for approaching or looking at a woman is what you can get from her body, you are a fornicator and a sinner.
Yes we are all sinners but some have a repentant heart.

And you that is with him just because of pleasure, you are a fornicator, you have no intention of commitment.

God values commitment so much, let's look at Matthew 19
In verse 3, we see how some men are,...

The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
[written by IV] Imagine, for EVERY cause, it means any reason a person gives is good enough.

That is "Is it right for a man to divorce his wife for any reason he chooses?”.

But there is a reason they said EVERY because there is one reason they "put away" their wives and it's usually the same reason some boys breaks up with a girl.

It's because they have used her, tasted her and are tired of her. Not because she has done anything wrong but because they want to spend more on a new fresh woman.

Jesus answered them by stating God's love for commitment in verses 4-6, but they insisted trying to justify their lust, to "legalize" their fornication

In verse 8, Jesus says they put away their wives because of their harden hearts...
Religion / Re: What is fornication? by Mdmelijah: 8:00am On Jan 17, 2021
Fornication in a way refers to a practice done by heathens, like free sex, sex for all, sex party, and I used to define fornication as sex for fun.
So you see people gather in a place like a temple and have sex with each other, like worship each other's body, etc. (If you have ever watched Vikings during their ritual ceremony they drink and sleep with whoever they desire or lust for–fornicate)


That's why fornication and idolatry are usually mentioned side by side; a love of self or what some call self love, worship and focus only on flesh, where no one's committed to anyone and there are no responsibilities–things you see in marriage and a serious relationship or courtship.

Are such things practiced today? Yes

{ written by IV}

Okay let's look further into it a bit

The word fornication bears similar derivation to the word "Indecency", which has come to mean the following; harlotry, adultery as a term for infidelity or lack of faithfulness, basically sex without morals or reservation (sexual immorality as stated in the torah–incest, family relations etc, it's the spirit of lust and fornication that drives one even to have sex with animals)

If you have ever watched porn before you will realize how there is no commitment or even words nor comment between both parties. They just meet and have sex, to some that's pleasurable but to others is just plain boring.

We see that fornication is just pleasure for the sake of pleasure, and that's what makes it wrong, a sin, it cares for nothing else but one's personal drive.
It's the prime example of selfishness and lust.

When Paul lists the fruit of the Spirit he starts with love. When he lists the works of the flesh, he starts listing characteristics of lust; adultery, fornication, immortality, sensuality, indecency, carnality... Things John calls the lust of the flesh.

A church where there is love, you will also experience joy, peace, patience, kindness etc, but where you see factions, envy, jealous, malice, wrath, fighting, division, hatred, selfishness etc it is always as a result of the presence of witchcraft and idolatry because lust lies in the hearts of the leaders, members, or even workers.

Same thing in a home or relationship, where there is peace there is love but where there is constant fighting it's because of lust and selfish desires... [continuation: https://www.nairaland.com/6367708/what-fornication-premarital-sex-divorce]
Religion / What is fornication? by Mdmelijah: 7:45am On Jan 17, 2021
Introduction
Now this word, "fornication" was hardly used in the old testament, and whenever it was used it was to show a lack of commitment.

The word mostly used, like in the ten commandments, is adultery–you shall not commit adultery.

Adultery commonly means sleeping with another’s wife or husband. Adultery basically shows a breakage of commitment and taking what belongs to another.

So in simple terms to differentiate;

Fornication is a lack of commitment while Adultery is breaking commitment.

When we see in scripture this phrase, God hates divorce Malachi 2:16, it is stating that God hates when commitment or a covenant is broken.

That's why you will see in the bible about not forgetting nor neglecting the wife of thy youth.

God values commitment and this is something lust lacks, because lust is a selfish feeling.

written by IV
Romance / Re: What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 7:36am On Jan 17, 2021
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Romance / Re: What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 4:20pm On Jan 16, 2021
We can't give what we don't have.

Someone who doesn't have love in them, that can give love to someone else.

So the person telling you they love you, do they have love in them, to an extent, do they have the fruit of the Holy Spirit in them.

When you receive love from someone and that love that comes from them isn't coming from God. Won't that put you in trouble.


When you say inside of you things like

You want a wife from God BUT she must satisfy your lust

Or you want a husband from God BUT he must satisfy your lust and preference.

Who exactly are you deceiving. God or yourself.


For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

Titus 3:3


Lust is the reason for his, her's or your unhappiness, anger in that relationship, let go of your lust and let love lead
Romance / Re: What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 4:15pm On Jan 16, 2021
Colossians 3:13

Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

Forbearance, long suffering and bearing with someone is listed after love in Galatians 5:22

So you see that someone who doesn't have love in them can't bear with you, even in your difficulties and flaws.

When you read up further in Galatians 5: 20, after Paul lists the characteristics of lust, he writes hatred, wrath, envy/jealous which result out of lust, evil and selfish desires.
Galatians 6:8 says he who sows to his flesh shall of his flesh reap corruption.

You can't be getting into marriage with lust and expect it not to corrupted and die off.

You will see a young couple suddenly start acting like strangers but still stay together just because the bible says God hates divorce, and because their is love and peace between them.

Most times when you find out the problem, it is because of what he wants or what she wants. That they never get when they want.
Romance / Re: What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 4:12pm On Jan 16, 2021
Most times people, he or she, ain't angry because of what you have done but because of what they expect from you...

What they want from you


A mother starts fighting and abusing a daughter she claims she loves. Because she wants grandchildren and a son in law, so her words become hurtful, judgemental and callous.

Not because the daughter has done anything wrong but because of what the mother wants and expects.
Romance / Re: What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 4:10pm On Jan 16, 2021
We see the answer in scripture...

James 4:1 (MSG)

Where do you think all these appalling wars and quarrels come from? Do you think they just happen? Think again. They come about because you want your own way, and fight for it deep inside yourselves. You lust for what you don't have...


(NLT, we see what causes jealousy)

What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don’t they come from the evil desires at war within you? You want what you don’t have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous of what others have, but you can’t get it, so you fight and wage war to take it away from them.


When the spirit of lust dwells in a person it makes them unhappy, angry, jealous, and later on fills with hate for what they claimed to once love.


Do you know where your fights and arguments come from? They come from the selfish desires that make war inside you.
Romance / Re: What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 4:07pm On Jan 16, 2021
"I love you more than the moon that shines in the night"


"You are the only man that makes me smile when I am tired and alone"

All these are wonderful romantic words but they all lose meaning in the face of what they really want.
Romance / What Causes Bad Break Ups by Mdmelijah: 4:06pm On Jan 16, 2021
How do relationships that start so beautifully end up so badly? What makes a supposedly happily married life become a hell home, a war zone, where there is no peace and regular fights?

How exactly does someone go from saying they love you, to they despise you, or how does a "friend" suddenly becomes a stranger?
Religion / Re: Defining Love by Mdmelijah: 8:12am On Dec 20, 2020
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