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eph12:
Fergie that almost lost the job just a couple of years after he joined the club if not for the FA cup win? Lol

No am not taking about when he was trophyless with United then he had not accomplished anything. Talking about from 1990s to 2010 when Ferguson was already the main man,was he ever at risk of being sacked at United?

patrickmuf:
Ignorance at its peak, bullied who? Blackburn? Newcastle? Please go and check how much those clubs splashed on players, Blackburn broke the English transfer record for Shearer but Fergie is the bully.

Bwhahaha and how many transfer records did Ferguson break during his tenure at United? How many seasons did Blackburn and Newcastle dominate?

eph12:
You think he just woke up and became a legend there? He could have left since way back to another club like Pep would have done. Why do you think he became a legend at Old Trafford?

Did Ferguson start winning immediately he came to united? Nah Ferguson could never had left united. He was a Coward who was scared to leave his comfort soon and try other challenges.

patrickmuf:
Before Fergie, how many EPL titles did Manchester United have? Were we a European power house? Fergie did it with Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes, he did it with Cantona, he did it with Cole and Yorke, he did it with Nistelrooy, Becks and Giggs, he did it with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez, he did it with Van Persie. Building teams after teams whilst still being at the top level of the game. You think it's easy to motivate same group of players after doing so well previously or starting from the scratch when your best players move on or start aging?

Ferguson was a brilliant manager,No doubt or argument about that. But this rebuilding angle is pure bullshit. United has a club was built around Ferguson. He was literally In charge of everything. What difficulty did he encounter in rebuilding, Was he ever in danger of being sacked...never. Unlimited resources and a wonderful academy . He had all time and resources at his disposal. He could go seasons trophyless and nothing would have happened. He should try it in this modern era. He would have been sacked.

eph12:
So your Pep can't stay one place and become a legend there so that he can go 3 seasons trophyless? Small thing that Mourinho did, he ran out of Spain

So you finally agreed it was easier for Ferguson at United. Good we are making progress.

patrickmuf:
The one reason why I think Ferguson is the greatest manager is the fact that he coached teams who reached the peak of their powers, faded out and from the scratch he rebuilt again and took them to the peak. You wonder why Pep, Mou and Klopp don't continue on their job after winning the UCL? They know how difficult it is to maintain that level especially when the key cog of the team is past it. Look at Zidane at Madrid, after the Era of dominance, he is struggling with almost the same team he used to win the UCL 3 times in a row because Ronaldo isn't there and the rest are aging fast.
Fergie oversaw different greats sides over the course of his reign, something I don't see Pep, Mou or any of the other modern coaches doing.

it's easier to constantly rebuild the team you have managed for 20+ year and having the club structure built around You like Ferguson had at United and now pep at City. Pep just 3yrs already at a club built around him has already destroyed the Epl and set unprecedented records.

eph12:
It's not easier. Coaches know how difficult it is to maintain the Hunger. In a new club, everyone is excited and wants to impress

It's way easier Being in a club where you are practically a living legend. Ferguson could literally go 3 seasons trophyless rebuilding the team and United won't dare sack him. He should try it at Barca or Madrid and see the outcome.

It's easy to rebuild when an entire club structure is bulit around a manager. The only reason United is struggling now is because the entire club was built around Ferguson. I would have love to see Ferguson leave United and start fresh in a new club where he has won nothing and the club is not built around him in this modern era.

Romantism for united fans.
Ferguson had no competition in the 90s, united where the rich bullies in the league, Ferguson never had to built a new team, continuing a dynasty where everything is built to your vision is easier compared to jumping in to a new club and winning every 3 years.

How priveledge is Messi to play under Guardiola.

Ronaldo in this pep team will score 80goals every season. Just see Small Sterling scoring hatrick.

obainojazz:
Epl is a local league... Let him win CL without Messi first.. He has about four left footers in his midfield and attack in city, but they ain't Messi Apari wanted the impossible from Robben.. But he ain't Messi
We all know Keke na pep

So you agreed. Pep has destroyed Your so called Best league And now you are just clutching at straws. Guardiola should prove himself in a competition he has won twice Bwhahaha .

obainojazz:
It's not a Chelsea fans thing, We all know pep is a give me all the best type of players.. Where did Liverpool finish last season, now they bought a very good defender and goalie and they are suddenly up there... Something pep buys for fun.. pep got available funds and authority to spend as he wish... Other managers don't.....Watch out, Liverpool might buy one or two players next season.. But our Apari will buy 17 new players to add to the already 58 he has.... He won't still win CL sha

So wait it's no longer guardiola should come and prove himself in the premier league but in the Champions league where he has already won twice. Do you know how silly you guys sound.

hensben:
Your example is flawed cos Kante, Mahrez before were the reason behind Leicester winning epl before you mention Vardy. Secondly, Ronaldo is a player unlike pep and Ronaldo was very instrumental to the team’s success due to his overall stats for his team. Pep coached a Barca that won ucl in 2006, the players were still there but the team had internal crisis led by Ronaldinho’s irregular behavior. He did nothing special with a treble winning Bayern. He came to a city side that were ready to do anything he want with money, he had to overhauled the team cos his first season was below to standard

So Guardiola was not instrumental to his team achievements? He did nothing Special with his Barca team. We are saying the same thing . Using your logic Messi and Ronaldo Have done nothing special in football because all they have done is played for the biggest teams in the world and supported by world class players. Vardy and mahrez carrying Leicester to Epl glory is greater than all they have done.

KingAzubuike:
Honestly fraudiola has always had life easy for him. The players he works with are usually ready made that an unknown coach will even do well with.

So why did the ready made players go back to back seasons trophyless at Barca before Pep?

This is the city team Pep inherited. Best team on paper indeed.

hensben:
Conte spent those money but most players he signed were not his first option. Pep failed in his first season, his second season he overhaul the team and did marque signings that play his brand of football. If Sarri has those privilege in Chelsea he will do same as most players in Chelsea are not used to his pattern of play which led to us struggling this season as in the case of pep’s first season. So you see that pep has done nothing special so far in his career, he is just been fortunate so far in his coaching career. Only am I diot will not understand what I am saying. I’m not hating on him, he is one of my best coach in this modern football and I’m a fan of his in reality but I like to call a spade a spade. I do not allow my emotions to becloud my sense of reasoning. His achievement is overrated but his style of football is what I admire. I’m not a fan of Mou style of football but his achievement is top notch, I admire his achievement looking at how he achieved them. Spot the difference.

Its just like saying Ronaldo has done nothing special in his career. He has just been fortunate to play for the two biggest clubs in the world supported by world class players. I like him as a player but his achievement is overrated. But Vardy achievement is top notch. Carried Leicester to win the premier league. Nothing Ronaldo has Done can beat that. Until Ronaldo does that I don't think he is a great player, just a fortunate one.

If he takes them to semi final you will say it's nothing new pelegrini did it already.

If he reached the final and lose you will laugh and continue shouting fraud.

If he wins you will say he did nothing special with all the money spent he was suppose to win the Champions league.

Lol.

raumdeuter:
That was what you dared Pep to come and do

Pep come and prove yourself in England you all said

He's just won back to back league titles in England averaging 99 points

Mission accomplished

Exactly. The narrative was pep couldn't do it in England with his style of play. Back to back Titties with record number of points has shut them up.

This one epl fans are hell bent on thinking that EPL football is the BEST IN THE WORLD! This will be like Christmas for them.

Melvyn11:
Pique has proved that he's not an outstanding individual defender because Barcelona have been poor defensively since losing Puyol as their leader at the back. Since puyol left Barca has been disgraced any how in the Champions league like amateurs

PSG 4:0
Bayern 7:0 bwhahaha
Roma 3:0
Juventus 3:0
Athletico 2:0

Given Pique's career there is a trashing coming for Barca lol.

I said it before. Pique is a trash defender.

raumdeuter:
When was the last time city conceded in the league. In fantasy like 7 gameweeks ago I wanted to buy Laporte but he was just coming back from injury and I passed on him. I think since then he has been competing 90mins and dropping clean sheets.

I think they have conceded just 2 goals in their last 13matches wow.

NinjaMetahuman:
that's pretty much it.


mancity back to back champion.


another trophyless season klopp. just how unlucky can someone get. ehn?

i wouldnt want a klopp near my team.

It is not Klopp's fault that in a season with 94 points to be 97 if they win their last game He may lose out to the greatest PL side of all time. Potential 97points without winning the league what else can he do.

Man City defense is underrated. 20 clean sheets and 22goals conceded same as Liverpool. I think this is Pep lowest ever in terms of goals conceded in his coaching career.

Why Is no one talking about the fact that guardiola has raise the standard of the premier league? Liverpool may actually finish on 97points and still not win the league which is the 3rd highest in premier league history. That's mind blowing.

I still think Pep Bayern of 15/16 is tactically is best ever side. As good as his City side is they still has levels to reach what Bayern was in 15-16.

Kimbeast:
Rank (prime)

Robben

Neymar

Bale

Hazard

Neymar1095:
Typical Barca fans. When they have nothing sensible to say they result to abuse and insults . Fire on jor and expose the fraud

You really know how Barca fans behave.

Neymar1095:
Top goal scorer and assist of all time but when it really matters 0 goals and 0 assist in 4 finals. star padding against Nigeria and Iran lol.

Messi can't thrive outside Barcelona . Pep and xavi actually gave this system player a career. just like how viruses can't survive outside the human body.

tesppidd:
Eder
E' fuccking der.
Say the name!

Of course. Portugal magically landed up in a final didn't they?

Corrosiveman:
.....Giroud also has a trophy which Makes him the Goat.....Instead of you to show Ronaldo's stats youre busy Mentioning Trophy....Why dont you show me his Individual achievement Because i know Van dijk never won a trophy yet people still call him the Best defender currently......A player should be judged by his Performance because winning a trophy is a team sport....I dont really have time Argueing with Juvemadridiots

If Giroud is your goat that's your business

Portugal before Cristiano Ronaldo Era : 0 titles.

In the Cristiano Ronaldo Era : 1 EURO.

Argentina before Lionel Messi: 14 Copa America, 1 confederations, 2 World Cups.

With Lionel Messi: 0 fuuccking titles. Hey at least they got finals and bottled it

tesppidd:
Tell me which final Cristiano Ronaldo has ever won in his national team.

Tell me.

Euro final 1: He played and they lost.

Euro final 2: He went out before they could win.

World cup final: Error, NOT FOUND.

You are always clutching at straws. Ronaldo has an international trophy. Twisting it one way or another won't change anything. Messi has won jack shit with Argentina. Those are facts even if you kill yourself it won't change it. If you have a problem with it write a petition to Uefa.