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tesppidd:
So because they are junior tournaments they were not won?

Was Messi overaged when he won the Olympics and the Under 20 world cup?

Did he not win them playing against his peers?


No matter how you guys try, Messi won those competitions playing outside of Barca.

Messi won the best player at the world cup (The FIFA world cup Golden ball) playing outside of Barca.



It will always be a direct answer to a direct question.


QUESTION- Tell me what Messi has won outside of Barca.

ANSWER- Messi has won the Olympic Gold and the Junior world cup playing for Argentina.

Also Messi has won the FIFA world cup Golden ball playing for Barca.

No amount of tears can wish that away!



Now go play somewhere, lemme relate with more reasonable persons.

Bwhahaha highest form of clutching at straws. So your big head wont tell you it's all about the senior team. Under 23 world cup lol

IKON360:
How many clubs did Ronaldo de Lima win Ballon D or with? You don't know so I won't bother you on that point. What are the 29 records that Ronaldo has in La Liga? Records with Real Madrid are different from records in La Liga I hope you know that?
You say Ronaldo is EPL's greatest player, you really don't know anything, players like Miroslav Stoch and Giroud have won Puskas I hope you know that?
By Ronaldo winning European golden shoe and UCL that means he is Man utd's greatest player? Dude?! Ronaldo isn't even Madrid's greatest player when you consider names like Ferenc Puskas and the other Baldy that I've forgotten his name...
Dude stop shaking yourself soon you will tell me that Ronaldo is the greatest Portuguese player ever and I'll still prove you wrong again.
But please list just 5 records Ronaldo has in la Liga, maybe highest goal scorer or highest assists or most braces or most hattricks or most appearances or most wins or most trophies or anything just 5 of the 29 records that Ronaldo has with La Liga

Yes the man who is Madrid greatest goal scorer in la liga, champions league,Only player to win 4 balon dor,Only player to win 3 European golden boot along with other numerous record is not Madrid greatest player. Sir I salut your stupidity.

Does Ronaldo has the most hatrick in la liga?

is Ronaldo the first player to score against everything team in la liga in a single season?

Does Ronaldo has the record for most hatrick in a season ?

is Ronaldo the Only player to win 3 La liga awards in one season .

is ronalso the first player to score 20 away goals in a single season in La Liga

Do you want more mofo

IKON360:
How many clubs did Ronaldo de Lima win Ballon D or with? You don't know so I won't bother you on that point. What are the 29 records that Ronaldo has in La Liga? Records with Real Madrid are different from records in La Liga I hope you know that?
You say Ronaldo is EPL's greatest player, you really don't know anything, players like Miroslav Stoch and Giroud have won Puskas I hope you know that?
By Ronaldo winning European golden shoe and UCL that means he is Man utd's greatest player? Dude?! Ronaldo isn't even Madrid's greatest player when you consider names like Ferenc Puskas and the other Baldy that I've forgotten his name...
Dude stop shaking yourself soon you will tell me that Ronaldo is the greatest Portuguese player ever and I'll still prove you wrong again.
But please list just 5 records Ronaldo has in la Liga, maybe highest goal scorer or highest assists or most braces or most hattricks or most appearances or most wins or most trophies or anything just 5 of the 29 records that Ronaldo has with La Liga

ok you named one and that is de Lima a goat contender who did it in 2 clubs same with Ororo. This even proves more that Messi is a fraud who can't survive in 2 clubs like the rest Goats. Man just called giroud lol. Did stoch or giroud win the balon dor, European golden boot and champions league? What the fuuuucck is wrong with you. Ronaldo is the only man united player to win player of the year, European golden boot, won all the PFA award in England and puskas award so please name the so called united players greater than him.

tesppidd:
Funny how you count ballon dor for Ronaldo in 2 different countries as what he has won but refuse to count the
FIFA World Cup GOLDEN BALL as something Messi has won playing for Argentina.

Messi has won the World Cup Golden ball playing for Argentina.(Has Ronaldo come close to that? )

Or did Messi win the World Cup Golden ball playing for Barca? Ehn?


Messi has won the Olympic Gold and the Under 20 World Cup playing for Argentina.
Except you want to tell us that those ones don't count because it wasn't Messi that was playing but Thiago.

Bwhahaha Olympic gold and under 20 world cup. Am sure England ended their world cup drought by winning the under 17 world cup too lol.

tesppidd:
How did Ronaldo dominate Messi in Barca?

Tell us and stop acting like a hoe negotiating with a customer on PH/Aba expressway.

Tell us!

Bwhahaha desperation and clutching at straws. Where did this stupid question come from?

IKON360:
Dude you are really sad. So by Ronaldo doing well in La Liga and Man utd, has he won more Ballon D Ors than Messi?

By Ronaldo being the best player in Champions league, has we won more Ballon d Ors than Messi?


Please which record did Ronaldo set in Man utd that Salah and Suarez haven't broken? Ronaldo isn't even Man utd's highest goal scorer nor is Man utd's best player. He isn't even in their top five


Messi has finished top scorer in Europe 6 times dude, 6 fucking times. Even Suarez has won Pichichi in two different leagues so don't give bullshit that Ronaldo has done it.

Ronaldo won Ballon D or in two leagues, need I remind you that a certain Messi won 4 in a row even Ronaldo won a Ballon D or before Messi yet here we are

Ronaldo had to change his style of play just to keep up with Messi from a flying winger to a striker, Messi even shifted further from the box yet still out scores your Ronaldo.

Ronaldo learnt free kicks before Messi and was good with them now he is scoring one in the whole 2019

See how he is listing wrong statistics that favour him, you won't list that Man utd had the best defense in the world in 2008, nor one of the best central midfielders in Scholes nor he had a certain Modric and Marcelo no, just Ronaldo, Ronaldo Ronaldo!! It's unfortunate that you are how you are

Ronaldo dominated two leagues he didn't even dominate La Liga, nor Serie A unless you will conclude that his one season in Juventus he has dominated Serie A(which will be even a lower depth than you are accustomed to) so which two leagues did he dominate?

Bwhahaha this post reeks of desperation lol. Ronaldo still has more freekick goals that Messi when he surpassed that then we can have a discussion.....dead.


Ronaldo won balon dor with 2 different clubs and still has the same amount with Messi . Did it with one club went to another and also won it. How many players in history have done that?

Please show me Suarez balon dor,Champions league and league title with 2 clubs.


Bwhahaha Ronaldo has 29 records in la liga stop being stupid. Won the European golden boot in la liga thrice,won 4balon dor in la liga. Stop being desperate.


Ronaldo first and only player to win FIFA world player of the year,puskas and European golden shoe for united. Epl greatest player of all time .


Is xavi and iniesta no longer better than modric and scholes ? Barca fans are so confusing. is pique not better than ramos again bwhahaha

Man has record and trophies every where he plays unlike your fraud Messi.

tesppidd:
Like i said before it is not about Ronaldo and other players, but about Ronaldo and Messi.

The only league that connects Messi and Ronaldo is the Spanish La Liga.
That's the common denominator of judgement.


So tell us, how did Ronaldo dominate Messi in the Spanish league?

Tell us please.

Bwhahaha what we already know la liga merchant. The only place he can perform. In response to Ronaldo dominating 2 leagues winning every individual and collective achievement you came with this trash really?.Damn lol.

tesppidd:
It's not about many players.

It's about Messi and Ronaldo.

And you guys are trying to ram it into everyone's head that Ronaldo is better than Messi simply because Man U and Madrid did not consider him INDISPENSABLE and let his asss move on.

Unlike how Barca consider Messi UNTOUCHABLE AND INDISPENSABLE.
Barca could never let Messi go.
Even for 1 billion Euros.

We all know that if Messi cared about "proving himself" to anyone, he could have moved on to win titles and awards at Bayern and Man City.

Has Messi done it? Has Messi won balon dor with 2 clubs or champions league.
You are always speaking in if language. If this or if that rather than facts. We don't know shitt how many trophies has he won with Argentina? I thought as much. The only place he has played for apart from Barca is Argentina and he has not Won anything....!

randomperson:
It's easy to cherry pick stats that suit your position.

Messi has 941 combined goals and assists while Ronaldo has 907 and Ronaldo has played almost 150 games more than Messi. That's about 12,000 additional minutes of football. But by your own special brand of intelligence Ronaldo is the superior player.

Yes Ronaldo has played in different leagues but he always chooses to join the best team in those leagues. From Man utd to Madrid to Juventus, that's not a challenge, that's a well calculated formula for the easiest routes to glory.

Messi, on the other hand, was good enough at 13 years old to be signed by Barca and for the club to commit to paying for his treatment, good enough at 17 to be promoted to the Barca's first team, good enough at 32 to be the best player in the world and yet loyal enough to stick with the club even in its rough times.

Ronaldo is the striker for portugal, he has played in three finals and he didn't scored any goal in the final. But let's crucify Messi for not scoring in finals even though he plays as an attacking midfielder for his team.

Ronaldo has been to about eight international tournaments but has not won a single Golden ball or MVP with the team. In fact, his teammates sometimes even win the best player award at his expense.

But Messi that has won multiple best player awards at tournaments with Argentina is the one that is underperforming.

I could continue but what's the point?

I wonder why many other players are not taken the calculated formula for the easiest routes to glory like you said to win balon dor, champions league,Top scorer, European golden boot with 2 different teams. Please name one player.

randomperson:
It's easy to cherry pick stats that suit your position.

Messi has 941 combined goals and assists while Ronaldo has 907 and Ronaldo has played almost 150 games more than Messi. That's about 12,000 additional minutes of football. But by your own special brand of intelligence Ronaldo is the superior player.

Yes Ronaldo has played in different leagues but he always chooses to join the best team in those leagues. From Man utd to Madrid to Juventus, that's not a challenge, that's a well calculated formula for the easiest routes to glory.

Messi, on the other hand, was good enough at 13 years old to be signed by Barca and for the club to commit to paying for his treatment, good enough at 17 to be promoted to the Barca's first team, good enough at 32 to be the best player in the world and yet loyal enough to stick with the club even in its rough times.

Ronaldo is the striker for portugal, he has played in three finals and he didn't scored any goal in the final. But let's crucify Messi for not scoring in finals even though he plays as an attacking midfielder for his team.

Ronaldo has been to about eight international tournaments but has not won a single Golden ball or MVP with the team. In fact, his teammates sometimes even win the best player award at his expense.

But Messi that has won multiple best player awards at tournaments with Argentina is the one that is underperforming.

I could continue but what's the point?

Cherry pick what stats? Nothing you typed is related to my post Did you see any stats in my post like goals or assist or pure facts on how Ronaldo won everything in world football with 2 different teams from individual to team achievement. How many players who has gone from clubs to clubs has achieved that. Went to the National team won trophies and he is also currently the highest scoring player on international duty still active. Who won golden boot for the just concluded nations league? Yes Ronaldo take your L. Has Messi ever won golden boot for any senior tournament with Argentina? None but MVP that has no criteria or rules to follow just who the organizers feel like giving is what you are jumping about. Show us Messi golden boot with Argentina

GoTV:
A reasonable football fan would know that in this game you can't win it all.


Pedro of Chelsea has won almost every trophy in football but can he ever win the balloon do'r that messi and Ronaldo won five times? This is a guy that has won World Cup that messi and Ronaldo still hopes to win.

No one can have it all. I keep saying that if Messi wins nothing in Argentina it changes nothing about his football prowess. He remains the best.

Haters downplayed the Olympic gold he won with Argentina as a junior trophy yet their Ronaldo never won it despite playing for Portugal at the junior level.


Atlanta 96 trophy that our legends kanu and okocha celebrates till this day is the same Olympic trophy Messi won. Yet they said he won nothing with Argentina as if junior and senior Argentina teams represents different countries. Haters will always hate messi bro

Very stupid comparism. Did you see anybody calling Pedro the greatest of all time or is he a contender. Man use your head for once. Nigeria had won various under 20 world cup but do see anybody calling Nigeria world champions. You don't even have shame at all the Olympic medal an under23 tournament

Bwhahaha Barca fans are delusional and also believe their lies lol.

Ronaldo Dominated not one but two leagues

Won balon dor in 2 freaking leagues

Finished top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Won European golden boot in 2 freaking leagues

Won champions league in 2 freaking leagues

Finished Ucl top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Set and broke countless records in both the Spanish and English league.

Mr champions league All the records dey him hand

Your Goat is a la liga merchant. Playing the same teams for over 11years. What trophies has messi won outside Barca nothing?

tesppidd:
Give Messi Eder and Guedes and he would have 1 World Cup and 2 copa America trophies.

Everybody needs a Guedes and an Eder in their life.

Wait, Eder and Guedes are better than Higuain,aguero,Di Maria,dybala bwhaha wow. Your delusion is high

Neymar1095:
Victim of disappearing in finals for Argentina. He should have nationalized in Spain so that you will say Messi carried them to win ha be idiot.

No it will be Messi singlehandedly carried them to win world cup and Euros bwhahaha.

Neymar1095:
How did Messi who scored only one goal in the Copa América 2015 which was a penalty in the group stages was voted MVP is pure bullshit. Man went back to back competition for Argentina without scoring a single goal. Man is a Fraud

So you mean Messi only scored one goal in the entire competition which was a penalty but won MVP bwhahaha o my God consolation award.

tesppidd:
Maradona?

I had thought we were discussing Messi and Ronaldo.

That's the life of Messi!!!


Get compared to Pele, Maradona and Ronaldo in one swing.

This guy you a big clown bwhahaha. Even Maradonna who has no affiliation with Ronaldo is begging for his kind of player for his national team you are here saying trash .

tesppidd:
GOAT debate;

80 percent of the time people discuss Messi, Maradona and Pele.

For the first time ever certain fan boys want to equate Euros and Euro league to the FIFA world cup.

Euros ain't no world cup.


2014 world cup; player of the tournament Messi.
2015 Copa America; player of the tournament Messi.
2016 Copa America player of the tournament Messi.
Junior world cup 2005 player of the tournament Messi.
Olympics 2008 player of the tournament Messi.

Ronaldo ZERO player of the tournament.

Tells the whole story; how Messi excels for his NT while Ronaldo is being carried by hs team mate Eder and Guedes at finals.

Bwhahaha
Messi who never scored in the knockout stages but was MVP lol
Damn!
But when Ronaldo scores in the semis but not in the finals (one which he was injured) then "he was helped by teammates" Guy you are a clown.

Maradonna the man the myth the legend

Kimbeast:
I watched the game last night and Argentina are too static for Messi to play anywhere near his usual level.
Ronaldo is a lot easier to play with because he's not a player who needs to find space in midfield he just needs to stay close to goal and will make something happen with his movement or heading ability
If I needed a player to win a World cup or champions league final I would pick Ronaldo because you know what you will get with him where as Messi is a much superior player but his game just doesn't suit that type of football and struggles to lead a team. Messi needs specific game pattern or style of play does that make h a system player Maybe.

tesppidd come and read the words of a sensible Barca fan. Your goat is a system player

tesppidd:
I still refuse to accept that there are people who believe and want us to believe that playing for Manchester United of 2004-2008, Real Madrid and Juventus amounts to proving oneself!
Just don't know how any body thinks that any sensible person would take that.

Only 2 clubs in the world can never be bullied over a player; Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Ronaldo left Madrid because Real Madrid values him 70 percent.
Messi cannot leave Barca because Barca value him 99.9 percent.


Everyone knows that if Messi was interested in touring Europe "to prove a point",
Messi would be a serial trophy winner with Bayern, Man City and Barcelona today.

Talk is cheap. you are talking in if language....if this if that . Your Goat has never left his comfort zone and that's a fact. Your goat has never won anything meaningful thing without Barca . You goat continues to flop with Argentina it's becoming a disgrace. Your Messi can not win even a spoon with a country like Argentina if it's levante or eibar he will enter 89mins score five goals and celebrate like he just discovered the cure of Hiv la liga merchant.

Kimbeast:
I watched the game last night and Argentina are too static for Messi to play anywhere near his usual level.
Ronaldo is a lot easier to play with because he's not a player who needs to find space in midfield he just needs to stay close to goal and will make something happen with his movement or heading ability
If I needed a player to win a World cup or champions league final I would pick Ronaldo because you know what you will get with him where as Messi is a much superior player but his game just doesn't suit that type of football and struggles to lead a team. Messi needs specific game pattern or style of play does that make h a system player Maybe.

And when a player who can only shine in a particular system goes to a team without that pattern he flops like Messi does with Argentina and that's why he can never leave Barca. He knows what will happen. A barca fan that is objective and Truthful your kind is rare.

How we are supposed to believe that he would be able to pull off the same standard of performances for other clubs playing with a different ethos & with different players.
Struggles against some of the easiest teams. Can't replicate his play style with Argentina because his play style is directly influenced by Barcelona. Your mcm is the biggest system player ever. Ororo is the Goat

Neymar1095:
Yes I really pity Messi. look at all the average players in Argentina compared to Colombia who had world class players everywhere idiot your Goat is a fraud.

it's Colombia's fault for fighting back. Didn't They know it was a GOAT who deserved all the good things in world football.

Neymar1095:
Mr out of point shut up. Coutinho said he left Liverpool to win the Champions league

After he left Liverpool
17/18 CL finalists
18/19 CL winners

At Barca
17/18 bottled a 3 goal
18/19 bottled another 3 goal

Man became serial loser and bench warmer

Don't you know Coutinho has always dreamt of winning the Copa del Rey since he was a boy.

Neymar1095:
Just imagine being Coutinho.


Left Liverpool to win champions league in Jan
Liverpool went to final in 2018 and won the title in 2019


Man left heaven and went to hell lol.

To add more spicy his current team bottled a 3 goal to his former team on their way to winning the Champions league Epic fuckery..

Chelseafan1:
Lemme ignore the balderdash you posted earlier, but guy, you must be very very foolish with the bolded, only an insane fellow will ask this kinda question.

A 33-year old saved them against Atleti when all hope was lost with his Hattrick, still tried for them in the next match and you dare use that finger of urs that leprosy shud have scattered a long time ago, to type this bullshit to me, you're mad!!!


If my post is bullshit, your brain is useless!

Go and carry dt Madrid team that everyone in the Laliga was beating up and down like thief and get them to face Man city, Liverpool, Barca or PSG if they wont beat them black and blue, was there not a reason they crashed out at an early stage?

Care to tell us the last time Real failed to make the UCL QF? They even had to lose on Home soil to dt young Ajax team but you're here yapping about world class players like Varane and Bale didn't play against those Ajax small boys who sent them packing.

Did Ajax not beat Juventus at home?

Did Ajax not send Juventus packing also?

Can't you see you are very stupid.




Madrid had an off season which is normal they have Dominated Europe for 3 seasons in a row and sold their best player without proper replacement any team will feel the impact but that rubbish propaganda of yours that the rest players have become useless in a bid to paint Hazard as one kind of saviour shows madness reside in your brain.

Chelseafan1:
Which yeye smaller clubs did his mate do it, the one Neymar has done at PSG abi

A40 no lie, ds present Real Madrid team no better pass PSG, Liverpool, Barca, Juventus, Man city. Even Atleti sef go flog dem wella. They were worse this just concluded season and most of their big players are getting old.

Talk of Ramos, Modric, Benzema, Kroos, Marcelo sef.....who else dey d team....

Oga patapata, the baba, oluomo 1 who makes them tick who can score 5 goals in a single match, now left them again.

Your post is bullshit. You just called 5 world class players which will be up to 8 including Varane,casemiro and bale. How many of those teams you mentioned have up to 5 world class players for you to be saying rubbish. Why did the oga patapata not make Juventus tick and carry them to win champions league?

tesppidd:
Even Olympics is more valuable than this National teams community shield.

Ronaldo now has 2 international trophies. Keep crying

Kimbeast:
Henry took arsenal to a champions league final, won various golden boots,took arsenal to an invincible season, won PFA, best striker in Epl history. Stop fooling your self thinking hazard achievement even comes close. Dijk made Liverpool defense the best in England in just one season. Back to back ucl final, 96 point so yes. Favorite for balon dor this year. Definitely finishing top3 all in 2seasons. Now tell me about hazard. What level did hazard elevate us to in his 7yrs here.

Also Liverpool just won their first trophy in 7years.

Ibime:
Sharrap. Sterling has 6 goals in his his last 5 games for England.

They are no threat yet dumped Spain and Croatia to get to semis.

Spain, Germany, France, Belgium and other teams must have "non-threatening" players since could not make it to semis abi.

And Sterling had 0 goals in his last 26games For England before that so what's your point. I forgot only Man City players made up the entire England,Germany and France Squad because you didn't see when I said specifically Man City players.

You watch Stones, Walker and Sterling on international duties, and you realize they are no threat outside the Guardiola's system and it shows. Just look at Sterling infact most of all the City players are no threats Away from the club.