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Still wondering how they dash this man ministerial appointment in a country full of intelligent people. That's how we got it wrong by honouring a child with portfolio because of father or family achievements in the past.

[quote author=simplebb post=63334085]Since a lot of people will view this thread, I copied this article from nairaland concerning d same dichotomy, it answers the reason for the discrimination and the difference between HND and BSc certificate.

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Re: Shell Discrimination Of HND Holders, Equating Them
With Bsc Third Class. by fratermathy ( m): 2:10pm On Nov
10 , 2015
This is getting too old and stale.
While I do not support totally embarrassing HND graduates
and denying them of promotions, appointments and a
chance to make a successful career, it should be noted that
HND and B.Sc/B.A/B.Agric/B.Tech/LL.B/B.Fisheries/MBBS/
DVM are different and the dichotomy must be emphasised.
HND is a technical diploma. It is technically not even a
Degree but a National Diploma. B.Sc and its other
appellations are the recognised standard for academic,
theoretical and career based jobs and appointments. That is
not to say HND cannot be used. It is just that HND is better
off for handy middle-levelled and technical jobs/careers.
The whole essence of HND is to make sure that there are
middle-levelled skilled people in the society that can be
called upon and relied on for their technical expertise.
University graduates are seen as having done a theoretical
study with much intellectual rigour and are, thus, deemed to
have a high intellectual acuity for certain professions and
careers. This must be known and not relegated. No matter
how much sentiments come in and no matter how much we
try to equate these certifications, the sacrosanct fact is that
they are not the same. As long as one is a "Diploma" and
another is a "Degree", they can NEVER be treated equal and
same.
On the issue of Shell equating HND with Third Class, I have
iterated in the previous paragraph that HND is not seen as an
intellectually inclined degree but rather as a technically
inclined diploma. Having a Distinction in HND only proves
that you have an excellent technical expertise, perhaps even
beyond that of University Degree holders. However, this
does not translate into the fact that you are intellectually
buoyant enough to stand a University First Class product. It
doesn't add up. For one, our Nigerian Polytechnics operate a
4 points GPA system as opposed to the 5 Points used in our
Nigerian varsities. Secondly, the units of courses taken in
HND programmes are far lower, both individually and
cumulatively, when compared with a University. Thirdly, the
course contents in Polytechnics are peripheral and
elementary as opposed to that of a University! Fourthly, the
calibre of academic staff and their standing is much lower
than that of a University. For one, a Polytechnic cannot have
a Professorial Cadre! Polytechnics usually have substandard
facilities and make-shift labs and instruments. All these
come together to haunt the graduates of Nigerian
Polytechnics!
The solution to all these bifurcations is easy. Polytechnics
should be made to award a B.Tech rather than an "Ordinary"
or "Higher" diploma. Polytechnic facilities should be
overhauled and made to standards. The Professorial Cadre,
alongside its competitive and cumbersome "floating"
process, should be introduced to the Polytechnics.
Polytechnics should employ the 5 or more Points GPA
system and courses should be well developed, standard and
carry higher units! In fact, the term "Polytechnic" should be
hijacked from parlance and replaced with University of
Technology or any other soothing appellation. We should
always strive to follow the UK pattern in our technological
pedagogical system.
Finally, on the issue of ostracization and stigmatization, I
believe it is only Nigerian Legislative Bodies that can end
this once and for all. As long as they are comfortable with it,
nothing will change! Let's just stop flogging this issue and
look forward to better things! This issue has been discussed,
ignited and quenched severally since Nigerian employers'
decisions to employ preferential treatments! It is time we
either take drastic measures or simply let it go as we have
always done.



The issue of grade point has nothing to do with results, Unilorin operates 5point while Unibadan operate 7point, Unilorin 5point grade is 70%, meanwhile some polytechnic operate 4point with 70%. Yabatech operates 4point with 75%. The grade point has no meaning except the percentage equivalent to maximum point. Thanks

Hedonistically:
And so what? Why is this Abba Kyari not reacting to the #EndSARS issue? Why is he not coming out to rein in his bunch of fools in SARS and reiterate that their ONLY mandate is to strike against armed robbers and kidnappers, rather than to go hunting after imaginary yahoo boys?

What is our business with his stupid brother in the police? I used to like this guy for his exploits in busting criminals, but his silence about the widespread nuisance of SARS suggests complicity and it leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.

Being silent doesn't mean he's not working on it, the problem is the Nigeria police force is full of tout that only accept police force for the sake of uniform to cover up their criminality.

We have seen Lamido son, Kyari brother but yet to see anybody there on merit without connection. Only God can open way for struggling son or daughter of poor man.

Maina should defend himself instead of pointing accusing finger to others. Maina is a thief and no other word we can use to qualify him than thief. He should mention names of other thieves if he's sure. Ajegbodo nwa eni kunra.

Someone carry money and burn the left over with the buildings.

How can dead body wear trouser and still put the belt so tight like that. If he's really dead people would have remove or loose that belt. Yahoo father.

Why always Kaduna road, it's like one minister from Kogi also died on that road with family members.

Alcatraz005:
Oga, the boy is over qualified oo. I can’t get a degree from buckingham and then use it to serve a dirty organization like the Nigeria Police Force. This boy joined the police at the prodding of his father and other northern hawks to be the Inspector General of Police in the near future. It is all part of the Northern hegemony.

The boy is on a mission.

Which one is over qualified with Bsc in accounting, is it not the same with Nigeria Bsc, I know if first class Bsc in accounting plus Msc applied for the same job without letter from political father nobody will give him the job.

BankeSmalls:
This guy can buy you and your whole village, your Ooni inclusive

The man can buy whole village including Ooni and was in Chinese motuary since march, you should be happy they haven't use him do pepper soup and package him to his village for lunch.

See our labour leader that negotiated with only ASUU despite he pass through the university and didn't know that ASUU is not only union in university to recognize but we are back to strike after a month negotiation with only 23billion cheque for all universities but can spend 1billion dollar on boko haram to buy weapon, they have forgotten that if they failed to spend on education they are creating more boko haram.

Useless people could not approve 1billion dollar to fund education despite ASUU, NASU, SSANU strike but can spend 3billion dollar to fight boko haram. Why not exposed people behind these insurgent and let them face firing squad or finished everybody in that state including governor so we can have like 33 peaceful state. Lols

Op had forgotten to add Pastor Jah in Ibadan zoo in 90s who tried to command and took live lion. The lion just killed him.

Let Dogara and Saraki defect and vote themselves back to house, these politicians have forgotten that people made them with their votes.

kingthreat:
I dont have a problem with Daddy Freeze. But looking deep at him, it's obvious he is envious of those pastors. If he is going to preach against Men of God, then he should do better than the men of God.
How many Needy people has he helped
How many charities has he invested in
When has he ever evangelized.
Does he put Jesus first in his conversations?
Why is he unready to forgive reconcile with his wife.

Please if he cannot uphold one Christian tenet, then he should please shut up.

What about pastors put God first to yahoo people, but buying jet, buy thousands acre of land to build estate which church members who pay tithe couldn't afford, how many church members send their children to universities built with tithe money ?

RIP to the dead, I think General commandant warn them to avoid unnecessary travelling like a week ago. Where are they rushing to after camp?

The power is with the people to change chameleon among the APC come next election.

Ask the pastor what will happen tomorrow or ask him simplest question of wen he slept yesterday. He can only know wen he lying down but can never know wen he dosed off. Useless threat.

Let them defect, they have forgotten that major decision is in the hands of voters. Saraki that didn't even win his ward during last local government election. If we put rigging out of Nigeria election by using electronic voting system most of these people would have been history and politically irrelevant. Someone like Saraki and Dino can never win 2% of total vote without rigging.

The outcome of meeting between Atiku and Dele Momodu. So wen he didn't step down, has he been arrested or world has end or Gbajabiamila is no more relevant, Yakubu should be pointing out his achievements as speaker by now. It's normal to ask someone to step down in politics Momodu. Meanwhile Tinubu is still in the party today unlike your political prostitute(your paymaster). Anyway you're doing the work they paid you for.

What is wedding party that doesn't has any meaning to me when I watched, people like wasting their time and money on useless things. Honestly I don't see anything reasonable in that wedding party.

Pastors are now talking about ministry like, I started my business with 1k. Everybody can see now that church is business where pastor is a director and can run it the way they like to make profit. Jesus is also poor but never boast of wealth he accumulated through gospel.

Has anybody accused of corruption explain how he got money legitimately if not the lawyers defending the thieves and looters. Anybody that's not happy among the ministers should resign cos it's not their birthright. Ministers should see themselves as public servants.

They hide their faces to avoid SARS brutality, anybody those criminals identify nah die.

Beginning of the end of CR7. Don't forget football is a teamwork.

WunderGist:
Space for sale............ What's your rate

How much is your space in dollars

Atiku is betrayal, he joined them to promise us, why not supporting them in job creating instead of criticizing APC. This type of Atiku suppose to be stone in a sane environment.

If only tithe is the matter, how come those who don't believe in God succeed in life. Paying tithe doesn't add anything to God but you have nothing to gain buy eye service tithe you pay to your pastor.

Promise you pay them in 2019 when you reclaim power.

The way Atiku shun his followers was also sponsored or what?

Forget recall of the anyone in Nigeria.