₦airaland Forum

Car inspection

I'm available

I'm available

Kobojunkie:
Look, you cannot bring your unbelief to the table as though a sensible topic for debate. It does not work at all for me. I get better to do with my time. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Which one be unbelief again? It's just for you to affirm my question if you too believe in what Jesus said.
Did Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies? The same God that said that we should not lie, Yes or no?

MrBrownJay1:
of course i do... you have the right to your religious opinion (whether i agree with it or not)

Alright no wahala...

Kobojunkie:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😁😁😁😁😁😁 answer na.

Car inspection in Lagos

Available

Available

MrBrownJay1:
again...

Oh ok you agree...no problem.

MrBrownJay1:
again, many people's lives are a waste... religious people; ritualist and satan worshipping people; criminals; pedos/rapist etc if you cant use your brain to define the above, then no wonder you need religion to show you what to do in life.

How do you know that all those people you listed up there that their life is a waste. Of we say that your life too is a waste, would you agree?

MrBrownJay1:
just because you dont pray and you dont go to church doesnt mean you are living life fully, duh!!! but what is CERTAIN is that it means 110% that this person is not wasting their time/life in churches/temples praying to an imaginary powerless god that cant help anyone.

Fine. People that are not religious are not going to religious houses. But how do you know that their life is not a waste?

FxMasterz:
You can ask the Lord Jesus if you care to know the fruits that distinguish a sheep from a goat.

😁😁😁I thought you know the teachings of Jesus already, tell us na.

Kobojunkie:
Again, Your asking me whether Jesus Christ meant that the devil has been a liar from his beginning is what instead indicates you lied when you said you believe Jesus Christ. Trying to throw Jesus Christ under the bus to hide your confusion definitely says, "You don't believe Jesus Christ at all." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lol...you are funny oo...so my question is throwing Jesus under the bus? How?
If Jesus meant that the devil was programmed to lie by God from the beginning According to you, and it is the same God that said we should not lie, how am I throwing Jesus under the bus?

FxMasterz:
By their fruits, you'll know them. The same way I know that you too, you're not a child of God.

1 Cor. 3:4-6 says, no matter the person through whom you came to God, you are of God, you do not belong to that person. The person or the denomination is just a conduit for the knowledge of God to reach to you. We all are children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

😁😁😁....so what are the fruits that we look out for?
Why is Odumeje's denomination not a conduit for the knowledge of God to reach us?

MrBrownJay1:
again, whether there is a god or not, some may die of hunger/diseases/natural disaster and criminals etc and EVERYONE is dying someday (regardless of your religion). so ONE THING IS CERTAIN, whatever you do, stop wasting your life hoping for miracles from an invisible god that cant help you.... and instead enjoy and live life fully!

you can either A) live life fully or B) waste your life in churches and temples praying to a god that cant help you (but that needs your money).

How do you even know that because you are not praying, it means you are living your life fully?
Is that not your personal opinion?
Why should everyone live like you?

Kobojunkie:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You don't know what a contradiction is, do you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Explain my contradiction.
Mind you the question still remains.
If the title 'Christian', has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, how come the word 'christ' is embedded in the word 'Christian'?

Kobojunkie:
Your asking me whether Jesus Christ meant that the devil has been a liar from his beginning is what instead indicates you lied when you said you believe Jesus Christ. Trying to throw Jesus Christ under the bus to hide your confusion definitely says, "You don't believe Jesus Christ at all."

This is my question sir. Don't twist it. Answer it.
Did Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies. The same God that said that we should not lie. Yes or no?

FxMasterz:
Who told you Odumeje is a child of God!

I have said that the body of Christ is united in Christ alone.

Tell me where I said the body of Christ is united in doctrinal matters?

1 Cor. 3:4-6

"For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase."

😁😁😁 how do you know that Odumeje is not a child of God?

So you mean that 1 cor 3:4-6 allows for children of God to be in disagreement in doctrinal matters?

Kobojunkie:
See confusion! .......... If you no get better to do, I suggest you go pick up a book on logical reasoning to read. That brain of yours needs exercise.

Oga where have I contradicted myself in logic here.
You claim the word Christian has nothing to do with Christ. I have asked you the meaning of the word Christian And I have asked you why the word Christ is embedded in the word Christian. You've just been beating around the bush saying that Jesus did not use the word. Is that the question I am asking you?
Who is the one without logical reasoning here?

MrBrownJay1:
... and here we go right back to when i said everyone need to LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST because you only have one life.

- why would anyone waste every sundays to pray for protection from a god that cant protect you? WASTE OF DAMN LIFE!
- why would anyone waste every sundays to pray for good health from a god that cant give you better health? WASTE OF DAMN LIFE!
- why would anyone waste every sundays to pray for abundance of money or a better job from a god that needs YOUR money and cant get you a better job? WASTE OF DAMN LIFE!

so many of you people have been bamboozled into believing that this imaginary god in the sky is gonna better your life, while you guys are just WASTING YOUR LIFE AWAY hoping for yeye miracles...while others are enjoying life fully... but then again, remember, it is YOUR life and you have the right to believe whatever nonsense you desire (and so do i)

Why do you think everyone has to live life to the fullest According to your own personal opinion?

Don't you also think that those who don't believe in God too are wasting their lives since they are also suffering and dying? Yes or no?

Kobojunkie:
The problem here is you lied when you said you believe Jesus Christ given that the question you asked points to the opposite.

So you mean that my question is not what Jesus meant?

FxMasterz:
There's nothing called "all pastors in Nigeria". The body of Christ is one.

There's no difference between pastors and the pews. We're all children of God.

Children of God can differ in matters of doctrine depending on individual levels of knowledge and relationships. That does not mean we're divided.

The Baptists, Anglicans, and a host of other Christian denominations never believed in the baptism of the Holy Spirit before but now, that has changed because they've had experiential knowledge of the fact that these things are biblical. I remember arguing with a baptist in 1994 about the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Today, that same baptist pastor preaches the Holy Spirit baptism. That's the result of progressive knowledge when iron continues to sharpen iron. The iron that refuses to be sharpened by other irons shall become blunt and unusable until it is ready to be disposed off as scap.

So you mean that the body of Christ is more united in doctrinal matters with pastors like Kumuyi, Odumeje, Adeboye, Oyedepo and Damina who claim to be children of God but disagree in what the Bible teaches or even their source of power?

Kobojunkie:
Me? Teaching you... abegi! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Again, you claim you believe Jesus Christ's statement but still you don't believe what Jesus Christ said.... no be confusion be this!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If you also believe that that is what Jesus said, the answer the question na.
Did Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies. The same God that said that we should not lie. Yes or no?

Or is my question not in line with what Jesus said?

MrBrownJay1:
OF COURSE ITS A WASTE OF LIFE... if xtians are dying or suffering of the exact same ailments that other non religious or atheists are dying of, then what is the use of your "supposed almighty god" who cant even protect you? better yet, what is the proof then that it even exists if it cant even protect his own sheep? what you are saying is as foolish as me saying that i worship Harry Potter and he protects me and/or Deepspirituals worshiping satan and believing in blood money rituals!

Don't you also think that those who don't believe in God too are wasting their lives since they are also suffering and dying? Yes or no?

Kobojunkie:
So, Jesus Christ used or even spoke the very term Himself, abi? It is no longer the Pagans in Antioch who first used it. See serious brain damage abeg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Whether Jesus used the term or not does not change the meaning of the word na. I never said Jesus used the word. Again you are confused.
My question remains.
If the title has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, how come the word 'christ' is embedded in the word 'Christian'?

Kobojunkie:
You believe Jesus Christ's statement but somehow you don't believe what Jesus Christ said either.... see confusion!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Shebi you are the one teaching the truth na. So why is it hard for you to affirm what Jesus said as truth.
Did Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies. The same God that said that we should not lie. Yes or no?

MrBrownJay1:
just like you have the right to believe whatever nonsense you desire in your life, so do i... so when you believe that there is an invisible god in the sky that is so powerful and protects religious people, then i equally have the right to open my eyes and see the millions of innocent xtians dying of hunger/diseases/natural disaster or at the hands of satanic criminals etc, to understand that there is no such god in the sky and/or if there is, he is powerless and useless to the world today, thus i believe it is a WASTE OF LIFE!

but again remember, you have the right to believe whatever you desire for your life... thats YOUR damn life, not mine.

Why do you think it is a waste of life since it is not even only the religious people that are dying or suffering. Don't you also think that those who don't believe in God too are wasting their lives since they are also suffering and dying?

Kobojunkie:
Again, my question remains do you not believe Jesus Christ when He(Jesus Christ) declared that the devil has been a liar from his(the devil's) beginning — not someone else's beginning but his?

Yes I believe Jesus statement.
So did Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies. The same God that said that we should not lie, right? Yes or no?

Kobojunkie:
Again, my question remains do you not believe Jesus Christ when He(Jesus Christ) declared that the devil has been a liar from his(the devil's) beginning — not someone else's beginning but his?

Yes I believe Jesus statement.
So did Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies. The same God that said that we should not lie, right?

FxMasterz:
The other pastors who are not in agreement with themselves keep learning and keep growing in knowledge to start agreeing with one another progressively, knowing that "what you don know today, you might know tomorrow." Knowledge is progressive
Nobody knows everything he ought to know. As long as there is no man perfect in knowledge, there'll continue to be disagreements and agreements.

It is those who separate themselves because of disagreements, and keep feeding on their own limited knowledge with the belief that they're perfect in knowledge that eventually shut the doors of progressive knowledge against themselves.

The Bible says "Iron sharpens iron" Proverbs 27:17.

Those who shut themselves from being sharpened in order to keep growing in knowledge and Revelation enter into must errors and bring upon themselves, eternal damnation as is the case with the JW .

So in what doctrinal matters have these pastors been coming into agreement as you've claimed above?
And who are these pastors, do you mean all pastors in Nigeria or all pastors all over the world?

Kobojunkie:
Ehn! So, the Devil had more than one beginning and Jesus Christ was not aware of this?

Ok let's say the beginning was when he was created. Now the question.
So Jesus meant that God programmed the devil to tell lies. The same God that said that we should not lie, right? Yes or no?