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JallowBah: I was not the one talking about how "I come here and talk about how naija-women should fell, blablabla". That was you.

And again, all you are saying, is how YOU do it, and want it, and that is what I am doing as well. And I do not sit down and trash your way, I have simply been saying all along how I want it, and how I have it. But you, on the other hand, feel a need to trash anyone who want something different than you.

My husband comes to me and ask me to help if he need it. If he can not cut the grass cause his back is paining, he will ask me to do it. No problem there.

You gladly throw your husband into the discuss but we must never mention him. Look, next time, keep whatever you dont like "thrashed" private. Ok? Again, if your husband doesnt find it offensive to wash your undies, i do! Ok? In fact, pardon we if i find it very offensive and craziy when you, and those two threadmates of yours, mention it on a public forum as this. Remember that the majority of members are Nigerians. STOP POLLUTING OUR GIRLS HERE. Now can this matter be put to rest?

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JallowBah: Yeah, you do`t care, right. Riiight.

And if my husband was damn rich, and did not worked more than 8hours every day, I would still work part-time, and like I said before; then most of the chores would be on me.
Just sitting around the house being a house-wife all day is NOT for me, but it IS for other women.

Attention ladies and gentlemen, this post has revealed the point where all these matter started (historically). Before all these girls entered the bandwaggon, it all started with the wives-must-work syndrome. Now, y'all have almost completely prevailed with that. And as we are witnessing, wives are asking men to wash their undies. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WOMEN WILL START CLAMORING FOR LAWS TO BE PROMULGATED INSTRUCTING MEN/HUSBANDS TO START CARRYING PREGNANCY FOR 3 MONTHS OR SO. I laff at where all these will end up. In the longrun, family (in terms of man, woman and children) will sieze to exist. As the title of this thread reads: "What exactly is man's duty in the home nowadays", questions like "WHAT IS THE USE OF MAN IN THE HOME NOWADAYS" will be the one making headlines in future. Sad.

bukatyne: That's marriage to you, fine. We were once running about in pants and barefeet. That is how it has been and it must remain that way. I guess the VC can't do your assignments but you can help the VC conduct the convocation ceremony.

hahaha...nice one. Hmm...someone is forming smartness here o. Going by your new route, i have one reply for you. So because we evolved from bareness to clothing, marriage should also evolve from man&woman to man&man or woman&woman right? You see girl, stop raising irrelevant examples. Plus looking at the VC issue, question is in your to-be marraige, you would be the VC and your husband will be the student abi? Interesting.

jidegirl12: @Michky... I've asked this before and ask again, when we talk about household chores division , what and what can you or not do?
I understand your standpoint very very well, you don't want your woman telling you what to do ko? cos they tend to make it a hobby , I get it.
But wouldn't it be nice/ romantic if you could help with manly stuff like shovelling, mowing lawn , fix stuff round the house , gas the vehicles/ take to car wash and so on? Mind you , you can pay to do those things too without anybody/ bills suffering from those extra expenses.

Lets leave @Jallowbah out of this, she's not Nigerian and didn't even marry one so I don't see why going back & forth with her. I respect her values but 95%Nigerian men are way afar from that attribute and that's why the Topic kept coming up gazillionth time.That being said, whatever works for everybody ( I know it's kinda cheesy )

I dont think she's asking for any special treatment. I just go alittle lost when she started the i-am-white campaign. I think everyone participating in this argument is humble enough and that's applaudable. If Jallowbah wants to continue to really enjoy this faceless forum, its best she contines to blend-in as she's been doing so far. No one is gonna get special treatment from me. *sighs* Now to your question, i as a man knows my duties in the home. Its good you mentioned it. Men dont wanna be told what to do by women. If a responsible husband cant do the heavy stuff, he wont call wifey to do his duty. He will mostlikely find a solution to it (paid/free). Same goes to wives. The home chores (cooking, cleaning etc) are hers. She shouldnt even dare ask me to wash her undies. If she cant, she should find a solution to it (free/paid). I dont care how you do it. Just get it done!

bukatyne: At the bolded, a woman can share financial responsibilities with her husband BUT the husband can't share domestic reponsibilities with the wife?

No long thing. If you had been attentively listening to US, the MEN, on this thread, you'll notice that what we have been re-stating is heavily simple. WE ARE SAYING, DONT ALLOCATE YOUR CHORES TO US. Simple! If we decide to help you by freewill, fine. Just dont expect that because did it today, then it has become our own share of homekeep daily (which is your sole responsibility btw). Now, you're probably going to say: if i share in the finance, then he should do same with chores. Right? WRONG! Why? BECAUSE IT IS MARRIAGE. That is how it has been and should remain. How do i mean? Now gimme all your attention rightnow. You see, all institutions come with status, roles and duties. Education institution, political inst., family inst., etc. If you notice, most of these institutions have distinct role players and duties expected of them. If most of these institutions have been tampered with, the way you're aiming to do for marriage presently, most of them would have lost effectiveness or would have become extinct. Eg,YOU CANT ENROL IN A SCHOOL FOR INSTANCE AND EXPECT THE VC TO DO YOUR ASSIGNMENTs FOR YOU. Can you? ANSWER ME!!!

bukatyne: Did he not insult her husband by calling him a 'woman'? Michky. I don't know it all, but it would be foolish of me to start learning how to be bitter like you. I intend to improve daily and not otherwise.

Me Bitter? Thats by the way for now. And you say he insulted her husband by calling him a woman. Eh? Know what, i want to attend to one of your previous posts first. Then we'll deal with this matter later. Excuse me.

JallowBah: Haha, nice half-swedish. Can`t see the language-school have done you much good, though.

And, regarding your next post..We have not had washing machine all the time for our clothes, and never had a machine for the dishes. So yeah, I kinda CAN compare it
( And if it is so DAMN EASY, why can`t the man push a button as well? )
Besides, I am not the only woman stating I want a man who helps around the house, am I? The only reason most of you are attacking ME, is because I am white and living in EU.

Who cares if you're white or black. If you like, be purple for all i care. And if you like, get a house on atlantic. ALL OF YOU FEMALES WORLDWIDE ARE and will remain THE SAME to me. Get off your high horse sweetie. I virtually interact with white girls/women everyweek and i can assure you that its the same poo that resides in your heads as that of blacks. Honestly, i dont know which color has more poo-in-the-head between both races. One more striking similarity between you and the ones on this thread is POVERTY. All of you wont be saying this rubbish if you are financially endowed.

bukatyne: Is this really called for? Just because the man loves his wife enough to help around the house, he's a woman? Is JallowBah saying she wants you to do this for your wife? What is your problem and business with the way her home runs? You can't belittle yourself to help your wife, fine. Don't come here and insult the men who do, it doesn't portray you in a good light. Thanks.

As for me, it is very clear without a doubt that nothing else is useful on you aside the places i mentioned earlier.

JallowBah: Lol, that law is a whole different discussion.

And if he was the kind that meant the wife was supposed to do everything, I would not have married him. That is what you are not able to see here..

Obviously, males like me would never be a match with females of such ideologies as yours. Look, i got your point from the onset. Different strokes for different folks right? I just dont want innocent visitors believing that what you're saying is right because no man opposed you long enough. This is why i have done what i did. Pardon my unsocial attributes by the way. Being human comes with an uneven combination of skills and weakness. Sincerely, i wish you the very best with your marriage.

JallowBah: Why use money on a househelp when you have two hands?

And it is YOU saying it is the wife duties. That does not mean everyone feel the same. I am SO grateful my husband have more respect for me and our house than that.

And, who says that we do not think about safety, survival? Why can you not have all of it?
Are you saying that a woman can not feed the family?
Again: how would you do in my country, where the law says you have to take 3months off to be home with the baby, while the wife is working? You even get PAYED to do that.

Why are you so stubborn? What if a husband says he doesnt want to do any chores, are you going to apply for divorce? And NO, am not saying a wife cannot feed the family. What am saying is its no problem if a husband cannot single-handedly cater for his family, and the wife wants to support. ITS JUST NOT RIGHT FOR A WIFE TO BEGIN TO SHARE HER DUTIES WITH THE HUSBAND. And regarding your country's law concerning child care, let me remind you that there also exists a law in some states in the United states that legalizes same sex marraige. Does it now mean that because its law then its right? Summarily, a law that encourages a husband to stay at home for 3months is a bad one. Your law is faulty. Simple.

sleekman: Ok I suppose ure one of those 'domesticated cats' Not to worry I have a something for you. My father told me of a clergyman that came to a farm and saw an eagle feasting with chicken and he was aghast. So he ran to the eagle and picked it up ran up a high cliff and said "eagle the king of birds this is your place amonsgt birds. You who should look into the sky and aim for the sky is down here feasting with chickens?". "Eagle, eagle now spread your wings and fly" and at that moment he thrust up the eagle into the sky. It began to make a trajectory fall and and as it spread it wings, it began to maneuver the wind as it should and slowly made an ascent. That was the last day it was seen. Oga love has nothing to do with washing a spouses' undies or doing chores. If u feel like it you do it otherwise you shouldn't be compelled to. Have u bought your wife a diamond ring yet? Get her one and let me know if love is different?

Am seriously trying to imagine Patience Jonathan reminding Goodluck Jonathan (The President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria) about her unwashed undies.

bukatyne: I don't know how to communicate with someone like you. I wonder the breed of people who call others ediots, fo/ols etc because they don't agree with them. I have told you, ask God to tell you what it means to be a man. And please, if you don't understand the Bible, ask someone to explain to you and stop disgracing yourself publicly. Jesus said In his kingdom, the leader will be the servant. He also said He didn't come to be served but to serve and give his life as a ransom for many. Let me see how you spin this one.

In your mind, you'll be applauding yourself regarding how you've nailed me right? This is how pastors have held us centuries aback resulting from the number of times they have arm twisted the Bible. Imagine using that servant master scenario to explain marital issues. Oh, Bukatyne, sorry to disappoint. I only translate the Bible literarily. That is why such phrases as "wives obey thy husbands" make more sense to me than your chosen manipulative verses.

jeak123: I noticed dat bookies are beginning 2 reduce their odds on Half Time under 2.5. it ised 2 b abt 1.08 but now, its abt 1.04 ur 1.05. Are they getting wiser?
Who has noticed? What of monday's picks. @ Mickhy, Is there any 4 d day?

I think this thread could have a wider impact than we presently imagine. I remember the time when someone on this thread declared the under 4.5 as another good opportunity in the last season or two; suddenly, the odds which used to hover between 1.09 and 1.10 dropped to a consistent low of 1.03 at POB. Immediately, i just weak. Perhaps its co-incidence. Or perhaps its due to the sudden exodus of Nigerian punters to that market. It is well. Talking about picks, i dont think the motivation is strong enough to ensure that punters will drop picks every day o. Anyay sha, lets see how the next few days will be.

Y'all keep repeating this phrase: when we are both working bla bla bla. Look, I insist, it is not right for husband to do wife's duties. Eh hen? And you're working. So what? I already said it time and time again: Get a house help, but looks to me like most of you only hear what you choose to hear. Oboy, una lucky say no be me una marry o. Una for don work taya. And when you're done complaining, you'll keep quiet. BTW, have you give up? Common guys, you can do better than this. Murons!

I have lost so much respect for women these past few months. EXCEPT FOR SISI_KILLS AND ONE OTHER FEMALE Nairlander (cant remember her moniker now) plus a few friends of mine, the rest of you, both on/off NL are nothing but holes. To me, you're not more valuable than my car for example. A car cant think, hence, you use them for their necessities only and change them when necessary. Same goes for most women. FACT is this: THE MOST VALUABLE PART OF YOUR BODIES IS THE HOLE BETWEEN YOUR LEGS AND YOUR BABY PLACE (WOMB). Its a pity. If not for Sisi_kill and the other lady plus one or two friends that proved me wrong recently, i was begining to question the essense of woman aside child bearing. All that matters to you is gold, marriage and love. You forget that safety, vision and survival are other unavoidable necesities of life likewise (which most of you's minds cannot comprehend). The men that are now trying to ensure all these are the same men you're asking to wash your bra and undies? SMH

bukatyne: Michky, This is how my marriage will be, I am not talking about yours and don't care how yours will be. Get it? Thanks.

Fine. I wish you the very best. We have to agree to disagree attimes. It is well.

brilapluz: please lets all bury our personal greviances...its time 2 celebrate naija...e no easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Taking a que from football, everyone enjoyed a great game yesterday because of a few reasons. One reason is this: THE OFFICIALS PERFORMED THEIR DUTIES AS EXPECTED. The game wouldnt have been well officiated if the centre referee (the man with the wistle) had to also play the role of the lines man (the men holding the yellow flags). As it was obvious yesterday, the linesmen made the job easy for the centre referee. There's alot more to the game but i'll stop here. Now, in a marriage, if the husband has to leave his work to do what the wife should have done, eventually, his job will suffer and his potential that should have brought out the best in him (which would have earned him a promotion) would sieze to exist. At that point, his sack would be lurking in the corner cos the office would begin to see him as liability rather than asset. Well, i dont blame you. I blame the men that married you. IT IS QUITE EASY TO SELL YOUR DISTRACTIONS TO A VISIONLESS MAN. A man who has huge tasks ahead of him would have directed you on what to do and he wont have time to hear your rubbish.

bukatyne: Michky: I DON'T CARE HOW YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR FAMILY BUT My husband will help me in chores, cook for me, serve me breakfast in bed with good lovemaking and shower me with unspeakable love. He will pamper me and make me blossom and shine with his love. I will become more beautiful daily and radiate like the sun. I will also do everything in my power to make him happy. I will build him up with my words, love and encourage him. I will be his greatest fan and give him my full support by God's grace. I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS TONIGHT. THINK ABOUT IT.

And you'll live happily ever after shey? Mumu. You've not factored-in problems that will inevitably occur during marriage most of which will be caused by you. Looks like you've been watching too much hollywood. You're on your own on this one. Keep dreaming foo/l!

JallowBah: Because that way, more people will see how foolish he is..

1 Corinthians 15:33 NLT
Don't be fooled by those who say such things, for bad company corrupts good character"

Kinda fits in here.

Before i go for now, you're so dumb. I remember the first reply i wrote to your post on page 3 or so. In the first line, i said: Eleyi ti ya were o. I didn't even look into your profile or meet you here before to have uttered that first impression about you. Let someone translate that to you. At this point, i don't regret saying that to you.

Peace out!

Heyo HOLES, gimme a min. Match wan start. Later!

JallowBah: She worked willingly with her hands..that does not mean she has to take full responsibility for the house-chores, that is YOUR translation of it. What of a woman who works in a mine, she does not work willingly with her hands?

And how do you manage to translate "he is known in the streets, and sit with elders" unto that a mans job is securing his kids and woman? ...what?

You want to go to the bible, really?
Don`t wear clothes made of two different fabric, or else you should be stoned.
Don`t work on sundays, or else you should be stoned. ( That would include washing anything around the house for your wife, since that is her JOB )
And don`t forget to do animal sacrifices every year, or hell will be upon you...

I have no problem with religious people, but when you start saying "THIS line works for me, but only because I choose what I wish to see"...that does not work.

You quickly forget that we're all trying to win an arguement here. The last i checked, anything goes during wor. So, i will interprete the Bible to suit me if i have to.

Besides, alot of the constituents of our present law was generated from the Bible. If you want to start questioning every line in the Bible then you're on your own. As there exist questionable verses in there (such as obey your father and mother so that your days may be long), there also exist verses that are non-questionable like: Thou shall not Kill. Get my drift.

JallowBah: You see, you continue to trash down the way MY marriage is.

He is my husband, which means I am his wife, and there is no other for us. It means we respect each other, we respect each others wishes, and we try to make each other happy.
For us, that includes sharing on house-chores, depending on who is working most. Like I said; when I was not working, and he was, I did everything at home. But when he was out of work, and just home all day, HE took care of it.

Where he come from, it is not the norm that men clean and cook much, no, but still: his father did help around the house when he was home from the bush. Go figure..

And I can write insults in norwegian back at ya, but I`ll do it in fulani: A selani.

Because his father did it doesn't mean you should come here and start screaming here about how right it should be that men should do same. Just as there was David and Solomon in the old days, there also existed gate men and slave men. I can't remember David doing chores but perhaps the slave men did. hmm..

kandiikane: Rants of an abused baboon.

Atleast baboon is far better than a street dog that has become a public place. WAM, were you not the one on tv doing it with another dog? Your moniker says it all. KandiKane. You love candy right? hmm...the kiwi candy. Oh, omo oshi.

bukatyne: You are obviously not following the word of God. I analyzed this in page 8 or thereabout. I don't care your personal views on how you want to run your home BUT don't drag God before into your opinion. You should read Prov 31 yourself because you obviously don't know what it contains. Have you read 1cor13:1 - 13? Do you know the kind of love Jesus showed the church? Do you know God said husbands should care for their wives as Christ cared for the church? Do you know that God called Ezekiel's wife his dearest treasure? Do you know that God compared His love for Isreal with the love a husband loves his wife? Please go and read your Bible and stop disgracing yourself. Abraham was married when he served his visitors food. Jesus Christ our Lord cooked for his disciples and washed their feet. He stooped low and died on the cross for our sins. You don't even know what love means and you are mentioning the Bible.

Oya, lets handle your problems one after the other, shall we?

*You say i don't know what Proverb 31 contains. huh? I just read it again and i don't see any part of it where it says "Women, ye will allocate chores to your husbands" or "Husbands, ye shall obey thy wives". Infact, taking from King james version, Proverbs 31 verse 13 says: "She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands". Verser 23 says: "He husband is known in the gates, when he siteth among the elders of the land".

Now, the first quote signifies woman to be willingly hardworking while the other quote tells what man's job should be in the home which is securing the wife and children. How will i ensure your protection when am busy washing your undies. Silly.

*Next. In your own words, you say "Do you know the kind of love Jesus showed the church? Do you know God said husbands should care for their wives as Christ cared for the church?" Well, i can't remember any where Jesus continuously did domestic matters, especially since he began his missionary work. So, i don't get your point here.

*Jesus cooked for his disciples but that was men cooking for men. Its like men doing forest camping. When there's no woman around, who else will do the cooking but man. BTW, Jesus did that cookiing because it was a significant meal foo/l!

*Finally, God's love for Isreal was like the love between a Leader and followers. You feminist ediots don't wanna follow. You want to be equals and you use the bible to excuse your fooli/shness. Insane.

In summary, you're confused and need urgent re-orientation.

bukatyne: The fact I don't see things the way you doesn't mean I got things twisted. Get this into your brain: NO TWO FAMILIES ARE THE SAME; WHAT WORKS FOR A MIGHT NOT WORK FOR B. While you are at it, go and learn how to address people in a public forum. Thanks

Mumu, are you new here?

bukatyne: The fact I don't see things the way you doesn't mean I got things twisted. Get this into your brain: NO TWO FAMILIES ARE THE SAME; WHAT WORKS FOR A MIGHT NOT WORK FOR B. While you are at it, go and learn how to address people in a public forum. Thanks

Get this into your thick rotten skull. There's a format for every family to follow. Its like the law. There are things written in there that is not allowed. E.g By the law, you're not allowed to have a child and cook that child in a meal all because its your family fo/ol. So don't tell me that families-are-different-crap again joor!. Its because you can edit this man/woman palava that you're doing so. I don't blame you. I blame man that has decided to allow you to climb up from the gutters where you should have been left to rot. Its a pity, you guys will win this feminist wor but what will come afterwards will not be something close to what you will be able to handle. I guarantee you that for sure.

I rest my case here for now.

bukatyne: Mr., you don't know what it means to be a principled man. Expect you are holding up the principles of street men. Go back to God to reveal what it means to be a man after the likeness of God.

You're telling me to go back to God eh? The word of God that's there for us to see is clearly ignored by you and you're here telling me to go back to that word of God. What happened to that virtuous woman in proverbs 31. Go and read it again and lets leave this matter joor. Lazy bum.

bukatyne: This your post reeks of a man that doesn't know what it means to be a man and lacks principles. Go to God in prayers to reveal what He had in man when He created you to be a man.

So, you know what it means to be a man eh? See this one o. You better wake up. That definition of man that you have in your head is sick. Wake up to the real world girl. You've got alot of things twisted.

abbeynoni: PLS What does it takes to open a ladbrokes account?

All of you that are already becoming eager to enter ladbrokes, all i can tell you is this. You can't beat them with many of the systems on this thread (i stand to be corrected though). Those guys know how to remove the punter's edge. E.g, the over 1.5 fulltime is not available in their live bet. Na wa o.

kandiikane: ^i don't know why I bothered. Your post reeks of idiocy.

A word is enough for the wise.

Your posts reeks of poo. I bet you're not married or divorced. Which ever, you're a poorly reared child of a broken home. I bet your father used to beat your mother to sleep every night. I can imagine you crying night after night as you promised in your heart to never take what your mother took when you were young. Oh, pity. Just keep your raskality to yourself and save us the stress of reading your trash here. Goat.