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MaxInDHouse:
With this you and i aren't on the same page though i know how desperate you are to be on the same page with me but unfortunately you can never ever be except you subject yourself to all the teachings of JWs.

Do you see why you and i can never ever be together now?

So you must stand with your fellow scoffers who are against God's organization! Psalms 1:1

All these years I have been reading JW's publications from the Book of My Bible Stories ( colours book full of baits to attract children to delusion) to the last one I can lay my hands on. I find all of them toxic.

So , no desperation at all.

Your teachings provokes laughter whenever I read them.

diddorimi:
President should not be commissioning "buses". We can do better

It is not about buses but self reliance by encouraging local manufacturers and businesses. You people abuse him when he tries to fix the nation.

Which responsible president will allow his citizens to be slaves to foreigners?

I beg he should commission even Nigerian made spoon.

MaxInDHouse:
You and who are together?

I have told you a thousand times that you and i aren't on the same page, have you seen Michael547 and i disagreeing with each other?
Well that shows Michael547 and i are together in the spirit but as for you i don't know you so next time don't quote me!

Hahahaha. We are together, only that I don't subject myself to the teachings of JWs. I am a trinitarian. The God that does not go on holiday. Ever faithful, ever sure.

[quote author=Domainer1999 post=131465669][/quote]Your grave.
If you are convicted in a court after death. They will put handcuffs on your grave for the jail term.

So, I believe your grave would be responsible.

sonmvayina:
God is the universal divine consciousness...not a Jewish man that lives up in the sky..

Well, that is your view about God.
What if you are wrong?

MaxInDHouse:
Were you dead when he was asking questions about the TRINITY?
How come you refused to address his quest but it's when i'm discussing with him that you showed up not to address his question rather it's to face me?

Because we are together nah.

sonmvayina:
That is easy..
Go find out what God is...that is the real deal.
Hint: He does not look like any of his creations.

You have seen God before?

sonmvayina:
Do you know what God is?..to begin with. To see that is even possible.

Please I would like to hear from you.

I don't know what God is but what He is not.

MaxInDHouse:
Where were you when he asked questions?

That is your interpretation of I AM. Not mine.

MaxInDHouse:
Trinitarians only pick phrases to support their erroneous doctrine but do you know that what was translated
"I am that i am"
Means
"I will become whatever it takes to achieve my goal"

To the Israelites Jehovah became a helper, a deliverer, provider, protector and so on.

So those who translated the text to "I am that i am" never thought someone will use it to support Trinity they just translated it to the best of their knowledge back then.

What Jesus meant is
"before Abraham i have been existing"

Try to read the same verse in countless versions of the Bible and see the way different translators render those verses instead of allowing trinitarians to manipulate you!

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So Jehovah said to become whatever He would as occasion demands? That is the Trinity we talk about.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word to Moses this is what was recorded:

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV

Not three in one but one!

So what is the meaning of Jesus' statement at Matthew 28:18-20?

Jesus is telling us that after completing his job to lay down his life {John 19:30} God gave him all authority both in heaven and on earth so we can go now to all the nations preaching and teaching them all the things the true God the father of all creations has done for mankind through Jesus' ransom sacrifice and the support we will get through the Holy Spirit.
Not that God is three in one.

@ John 10:30 Jesus explained that himself and his father are one meaning he always comply with his father's opinion and he prayed that the same should be extended to his faithful disciples:

"And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one" John 17:22 KJV

If his disciples are one with Jesus and God what do you make of that?

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Romans 14:17-18

Where is Trinity here?

You can never ever see the word TRINITY in the Bible neither can you see two persons agree on anything regarding Trinity because it's a lie that's why as many as the supporters of Trinity they can't come up with one doctrine!

The same rhetoric: leave us with our Trinity. Your position is not explicit either.


Proudly, trinitarian, serving the living God that does not go on holiday. There is no shadow of turning in Him.

Boomark:
I still wonder if you people really read your bible or you just read and depends on only bulletins and what your preachers teach you.

I will show you how your lack of knowledge of the truth has made you and your friends to preach the doctrine of antichrist.

‭John 14:26 HCSB‬
[26] But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit — the Father will send Him in My name — will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

Take note, the Holy Spirit will remind them everything that Christ told them about Jehovah his Father. That is, His witnesses for Jehovah and more
This alone has destroyed your point and belief that the Holy Spirit will bear witness to Christ alone and not His Father.

Now what are those everything Christ said which the Holy Spirit will remind them? They are plenty but here are some of them.

# Jesus Christ bore witness that the Father sent him. To do the will of God alone.
# He bore witness he does exactly all that the father commanded him, Jn 14:31.
# He bore witness that he is the servant of God, Isa 42:1-5, Mt 12:16-21.
# He bore witness that God the Father his God is the only true God, Jn 17:3, Jn 20:17. His disciples remembered it in Eph 1:17, 1 Peter 1:3.
# He bore witness that the Father is greater than him, Jn 14:28, 2 Corinthians 11:3.
# That everything is from God and God reconcile us back to Himself through Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18-21.
# For, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5
# Etc.

‭John 17:3 HCSB‬
[3] This is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true God, and the One You have sent — Jesus Christ.

If you don't know God and also Jesus Christ whom he sent, you are going nowhere.

And you are anti-christ if you refuse to accept the things that Jesus Christ said, because all he said about his God is the will of God and true.

‭1 John 2:22-23 HCSB‬
[22] Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son. [23] No one who denies the Son can have the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well.

The first thing Peter did through the power of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost day was to bear witness to Jehovah God. He told the people about the will of God according to Joel, before telling them how God used Jesus Christ to achieve that purpose.

‭Acts 2:14-22 HCSB‬
[14] But Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice, and proclaimed to them: “Men of Judah and all you residents of Jerusalem, let me explain this to you and pay attention to my words. [15] For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it’s only nine in the morning. [16] On the contrary, this is what was spoken through the prophet Joel: [17] And it will be in the last days, says God, that I will pour out My Spirit on all humanity; then your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. [18] I will even pour out My Spirit on My male and female slaves in those days, and they will prophesy. [19] I will display wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below: blood and fire and a cloud of smoke. [20] The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great and remarkable Day of the Lord comes. [21] Then everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Then after this, from Acts 2:22-36, you see practical example of what it means to witness for Christ. It means bearing witness to Jehovah through Christ Jesus. It is about telling people what God used Jesus Christ to do. With that, all the glory will returns to the Father.

Act 2:22-36 Read through front your bible.
Vs 22, God endorsed Jesus and did many miracles through him.
Vs 23, All that happened to Jesus was God's plan.
...Vs 33, Jesus received the Holy Spirit from the Father.
Vs 36, God made him Lord and Messiah.

As you can see, you must return all glory to the Father while preaching Christ. If not, whatever you are doing is not endorsed by Christ nor the Holy Spirit of God but antichrist.

‭1 Peter 4:11 HCSB‬
[11] If anyone speaks, it should be as one who speaks God’s words; if anyone serves, it should be from the strength God provides, so that God may be glorified through Jesus Christ in everything. To Him belong the glory and the power forever and ever. Amen.

Like I told you before, everything is about God through Jesus Christ. Leaving God out of the witnessing about Christ is antichrist. These things are everywhere but I know that the antichrist doctrine of Trinity is why people won't see it. I will deal with Trinity soon.

People in Matthew 7:21-23 thought it is by doing signs and wonders in his name, prophecying in his name that they will gain eternal life but he rejected them and told them that if it i not the will of God, it is nothing. Christ made know the will of God to us and that is what everyone must pursue.



MightySparrow
StillDtruth
MaxinDHouse
Dtruthspeaker

So Peter witnessed for Jehovah or for Christ?

I thought igbos claims that nobody manufactures anything other than them

Boomark:
Are you just too ignorant or what? I asked a question, you quoted the question and said it is the same answer he gave in another thread. I don't like this kind of ignorance. What I wrote is question not an answer. And the instructions of how to answer it is written boldly there.

I gave you a verse to explain, you merry - go -round. It is like you are new on this platform.

Emusan answered a question brilliantly. You replied with JWs gibberish.

If you want to answer me, you don't beg questions. You answer directly. I appreciate that. I don't like answers with panelbeating .


I am still waiting for your response.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the same line of thought in doctrine with Jude? 1Corinthians 1:10


You just pick up a verse and think it applies to all religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Christians!

I am in the same line of thought with Jude. He tells us of common salvation and faith we all contend for.

You claimed you have other God other than that of other Christians. You brag about your ever changing doctrines ( community truth).

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not on the same page with any of you guys so stop mentioning me on your thread because i will never ever discuss anything with you regarding my faith unless you respectfully ask on my own thread.
OK?

Jude.1.3 - Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.


Are you trying to make common salvation uncommon?

Boomark:
John 14:26 HCSB‬
[26] But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit — the Father will send Him in My name —will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

Here is what Jesus Christ said "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me" - John 15:26


For you to continue holding unto your antichrist belief, you said that Jn 14:26 is a lie and that i am arguing with Jesus Christ as seen in the picture below. So answer these questions accordingly.

1. Is John 14:26 which I quoted not the direct word of Jesus Christ?

2. Did the Holy Spirit [b]testify about Jesus, Jn 15:26, without reminding the disciples of everything Jesus told them according to Jn 14:26?

Please give a simple yes or no answer to 1 and 2.

If you can't answer yes or no to 1 and 2, also number them and give SHORT reason why you can't. Don't go and start typing long messages just to deceive people.

I want to show the world that this is really antichrist, coupled with lack of understanding of English.

See hypocrisy. This same answer Emusan gave somewhere and you responded with gibberish.

mrkings84:
Suffer not a witch to live

Interesting: how many witches have you killed officially?

MaxInDHouse:
Is Rutherford the writer or translator or your KJV?

No.

Do you mean there are other faithful witnesses other than Rutherford's Jehovah's Witnesses?

MaxInDHouse:
By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained WITNESS that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Hebrews 11:4

Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of WITNESSES, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Hebrews 12:1


Abel is one of us the great crowd of WITNESSES!

One of Jehovah's Witnesses by Rutherford?

mrkings84:
E no go better for tinubu and apc, high cost of transport made me missed this year's convention.

Bless and curse not.

MaxInDHouse:
How JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES were called in times past:

• Abraham descendants: after establishing the covenant between Him and Abraham servants of God were referred to as Abraham's descendants yet not all Abraham's children are faithful so the history of Abraham's other seven sons was discontinued in the scriptures except Isaac!

• Israelites: after Jacob's descendants became numerous in the land of Egypt they were known as Israelites but not all Jacob's children remain faithful so God's blessings follows only three tribes of Israel namely Judah, Benjamin and Levi known as Jews till today!

• Jews: from the time of Rehoboam the son of Solomon three southern tribes of Israel stood with him because of the promises God made to David regarding the Messiah that he will be born from the lineage of David but not all Jews were faithful so God kept His promises to the house of David until the arrival of the Messiah and after the Christ (Messiah) only few Jews remain faithful to God's promises and they were referred to as those belonging to the WAY because the young man (Jesus) who proved to be the Christ called himself "the WAY"

• Christians: After members of "the WAY" were noticed in an ancient city called Antioch they were called "Christians" and that's the last name faithful people were called along with faithless miscreants till the year 1931 when God through the mouth of one of his servants declared the GROUP name for all His faithful WORSHIPERS right from the time of Abel till today that GROUP NAME is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

So throughout history JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES has been called by different GROUP names each time they gather as an organization but God hid that name from Satan's agents until the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15

But unlike ancient times when Satan's agents often turn God's organization upside down it is now impossible for Satan and his agents so instead of leaving God's organization they keep accusing the same organization claiming it's a cult yet they remain there worshiping with the so called "CULT"


Judgement is coming and Jehovah has recorded the names of all Jehovah's Witnesses right from the time of Abel until the first century! Hebrews 11:4-34; 12:1 compare to Malachi 3:16

So Jehovah's Witnesses are connected to faithful Abel?

Man shall not live by bread at all.

Western world and their stupidity.

They tried

Boomark:
I am glad that what I posted killed the error you believed in. I am still preparing a shocking response for you and your friend Emusan on the witness of Christ. Something that no man can oppose.

The spirit of God is that same spirit of Christ which was given to him by God this Father. Same spirit. No problem with the scripture.

The heresy I refuted came in your own words, saying that people of old who prophesied and preached about the coming of Jesus Christ are Christians. This is heresy and has no scriptural backup for anyone to even refute.

Your heresy means that all Israelite who knew and taught their children about the coming of Jesus Christ are Christians because they preached the message Christ coming, message of the future salvation.

The chief priests, the high priests and all those who killed Christ are his Christians because the same spirit gave them the law they are practicing. Saul was a Christian who persecuted other types of Christians?

King Saul and king David are all Christians. My brother this your heresy no get part 2.

The first time you claimed Jesus was wrong by refuting Acts 1:8. Later you refuted 1 Peter 1 10 - 11.
Instead of whining, just give your explanation of the two passages.


You are not responding.......

Rev.14.6 - And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,


Explain the bolded.

Boomark:
Even Jesus Christ came from nowhere (according to the Pharisees) to see people who are called teachers wallowing in ignorance.

In other words, you are telling us that all Israelites of old before Christ are Christians because it is the same spirit that gave them the laws they are following? They all knew and preached about the coming of the Christ. Like the sameritan woman is a Christian, John 4:25. Abi?

The chief priest, scribes, and Pharisees are Christians who killed their Christ and are busy persecuting and killing Christians for refusing to follow Christian laws handed to them by the same spirit? Beautiful.

Saul who later became Paul was a zealous Christian killing and persecuting another type Christian group for not following what the same spirit told them? Wonders shall never end.

And in summary you are saying that it is Christians that killed Christ. Same spirit gave them the laws they are defending.

The prophets who are still making enquiries of the salvation yet to come are Christians even without knowing the name Jesus through which they can be saved?

The spirit of Christ is the same as the spirit of God. Same spirit that God gave him. He received this same spirit from the his God. So Originally, it the spirit of God. Same spirit from God.

‭Isaiah 42:1-5 HCSB‬
[1] “This is My Servant; I strengthen Him, this is My Chosen One; I delight in Him. I have put My Spirit on Him; He will bring justice to the nations. [2] He will not cry out or shout or make His voice heard in the streets. [3] He will not break a bruised reed, and He will not put out a smoldering wick; He will faithfully bring justice. [4] He will not grow weak or be discouraged until He has established justice on earth. The islands will wait for His instruction.” [5] This is what God, Yahweh, says — who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it and life to those who walk on it —

Jesus our Lord, the servant of the Most High God confirmed it in Matthew 12

‭Matthew 12:16-21 HCSB‬
[16] He warned them not to make Him known, [17] so that what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: [18] Here is My Servant whom I have chosen, My beloved in whom My soul delights; I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will proclaim justice to the nations. [19] He will not argue or shout, and no one will hear His voice in the streets. [20] He will not break a bruised reed, and He will not put out a smoldering wick, until He has led justice to victory. [21] The nations will put their hope in His name.

Not knowing that the Holy Spirit of God can also be referred to as spirit of Christ is the reason why you believe the false teaching of Christians killing Christ and other Christians.

I am just discovering another dishonest JW. Why not refute the scripture qouted?

StillDtruth:
Precisely! It is as clear as day.

Thanks brother

StillDtruth:
John 10:30 and John 14:21 has already answered you.



Was this in issue? No

So off point!

This Boomark just appeared from nowhere. all the servants of God from old times were Christians - they brought the message of Christ. I wonder why people don't read their Bibles with understanding.


1Pet.1.10 - Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

1Pet.1.11 - Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

1Pet.1.12 - Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Summary
1. The Prophets were enquiring for the Salvation in Christ.
2. The same Spirit that revealed to them ( the prophets) is the same Spirit in the time of the Apostles and still at work today .

3. Christianity didn't start from the Upper Room but from ages.

I heard one funny preacher that claimed God is not a Christian God or something like that. He missed it. The message from Genesis to Revelation is one and the same meandering through the course of history.

Let me as my friend maximumSide first.

He will surely have something negative about it.


Just A minute..........

Boomark:
There is nothing brilliant about this if you don't know what they are actually witnessing about Christ.
Is it not that he was sent by God.
That he came to reconcile us back to God.
That he is the way to God.
He is the mediator between man and God.
That we should pray to the Father in his name.
That his Father is our Father, his God is our God.
Everything is about Jehovah, the God of our lord Jesus, Eph 1:17.

All the things I wrote up there came from the scripture. I wonder the kind of witness you give about Christ that is not to the glory of the Father?

Interesting.

Do you mean Jesus was wrong to have said this?
Acts.1.8 - But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.


Note the bolded