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AbuTwins:
In Mark 14:68-72 (NIV) about Peter's denial of Jesus we read:

“68 But he denied it. “I don’t know or understand what you’re talking about,” he said, and went out into the entryway.

69 When the servant girl saw him there, she said again to those standing around, “This fellow is one of them.” 70 Again he denied it.

After a little while, those standing near said to Peter, “Surely you are one of them, for you are a Galilean.”

71 He began to call down curses, and he swore to them, “I don’t know this man you’re talking about.”

72 Immediately the rooster crowed the second time.”

Around the 5th century CE scribes thought it was odd that verse 72 mentions a rooster crowing a second time but that the Gospel narrative does not mention a rooster crowing a first time. Since Jesus was said to have predicted that Peter would deny him three times before the rooster crowed twice, it would not make sense to them that it had not mentioned the first crowing. The scribes of Codices Alexandrinus, Ephraemi-Rescriptus and Bezae all added in after verse 68 as quoted above, a small but important addition:

και αλεκτωρ εφωνησεν which is “and a rooster crowed”.

Who added the above in bold "and a rooster crowed"?

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Mark 14:68 across various translations - Checking the addition - "and a rooster crowed"

1.New International Version
But he denied it. “I don’t know or understand what you’re talking about,” he said, and went out into the entryway.

2.New Living Translation
But Peter denied it. “I don’t know what you’re talking about,” he said, and he went out into the entryway. Just then, a rooster crowed.

3. English Standard Version
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you mean.” And he went out into the gateway and the rooster crowed.

4. Berean Standard Bible
But he denied it. “I do not know or even understand what you are talking about,” he said. Then he went out to the gateway, and the rooster crowed.

5. Berean Literal Bible
But he denied it, saying, "I neither know nor even understand what you say." And he went forth out into the porch; and the rooster crowed.

6. King James Bible
But he denied, saying, I know not, neither understand I what thou sayest. And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.

7. New King James Version
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are saying.” And he went out on the porch, and a rooster crowed.

8. New American Standard Bible
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch.

9. NASB 1995
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch, and a rooster crowed.

10. NASB 1977
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out onto the porch.

11. Legacy Standard Bible
But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are talking about.” And he went out into the entryway.
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The scribes of Codices Alexandrinus, Ephraemi-Rescriptus and Bezae!

When you mentioned 72, I was thinking of the 72 houris awaiting you in Al - Jaanah and rivers of rum. .
You will enjoy toto tire!
I think the wine will be burantashi
Eternal erection.

God1000:
Another heavy blow to Israel, no more pampering.

If I have a child that doesn't listen to me and my advice, I would reprimand and repudiate such mischievous child and withdraw all my support.

One day the americans will get tired of them too

Do you know how much Israeli government is paying to keep terrorists at bay. End the.nonsense once and for all. Israel and Middle East can now rest the world can have peace.

Dumb police officers. The man died during an argument.

Who killed him?

The argument? The tenant?

Inherent sickness?

What?

Aemmyjah:
Is word for word the only criteria for Bible translation?

Yes, when you add your own ideas, it has become a commentary. A commentary is your own view not necessarily the ideas behind the thoughts of the original writer.

So, is NWT a translation transliteration, or commentary?

MaxInDHouse:
When Holy Spirit is WORKING your honesty means nothing {James 2:18-26} because it's from imperfect human mind, if this is about honesty many from different religions are honest yet they're lost in false religions.
So what really matters is the result expected of those studying God's word {Matthew 7:16-18} if your religion is not performing up to expectation then all your honesty is worthless before God! Isaiah 64:6

Ọgá softly softly. Which Holy Spirit nah.
I merely asked if NWT is a literal translation of the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts or embellished to suit your doctrines, thus reducing it to commentary.


If it does not reflect the original writs (in content, context, and intentions of the writers) in the manuscripts, it is a honest translation or transliterations. I understand that none of your GB members have been proficient in any of these languages.

Again I am asking: is NWT a translation, transliteration, or commentary?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy whatever you want to call it whatever matters to me is how the book is moving it's readers into ACTION in doing what Jesus commanded all his disciples to do!

Is it a honest translation word for word of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts?

YeyeGbami:
O jo gate ko jo gate

Ni ikate

The day her children would see the fu*k up? Internet no dey forget o.

MaxInDHouse:
Translation and interpretation is 5&6 what is of utmost importance is how what you heard makes you act and obey the Author.
If you're not acting in line with the author's command there's no sense in whatever translation or interpretation given!

In one word NWT is an interpretation?

Odewaleadesoye:
Nollywood actress and producer, Toyin Abraham has defended her decision to support President Bola Tinubu during the 2023 elections.

Recall that after the election, Abraham made a post saying she met with the then incoming President and that he shared some of his ideas with her on how he plans to solve some of the challenges confronting the country.

Following the increasing hardship in the country, Abraham has being receiving backlash for her role in bringing the the current government to power.

Reacting to the backlash during an Instagram Live session Tuesday, the actress said she would no longer tolerate the constant cyber bullying of her family because of her political choice.

She emphasised that Nigeria is a democracy and she has the right to support and vote for whoever she wants.

The movie star also refuted claims that she was paid to support Tinubu.



DAILY POST

Let them curse all they want that cannot change anything now. You are living your life for yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Make the best use of what you have there's no need for comparison if you can't mention the name of your church!

My church has nothing to do with the honest translation translation of the scriptures.


Is NWT a translation, transliteration, or commentary?

MaxInDHouse:
Mumu Churchian!

That's why our version is called NEW WORD TRANSLATION of the Holy Scriptures!

Is your NWT a translation, transliteration, or commentary?

If you put it side by side Hebrew and Greek versions. There are more of JWs doctrines and views than the original writs in content, context, and intentions of the writers.

So, which is your NWT?

AntiChristian:
Did i kill your mum, dad or any of your sibling?
You guys and lies are like 5 and 6!

People that died in 9/11 about 3,000 people that Al - Qaeda are not human beings? Osama bin Laden, your brother claimed responsibility.

Chibok girls, Christian, Leah Sharibu, my sister in Christ is now forcefully married to a head slamming idiot.

She woman and she man under same roof

AntiChristian:
Na Yahweh and Jesus command those killings!
Assuming you were one of the Amalekites! Your mum, dad, brother, sister, even animals would be killed!
It doesn't involve anyone else!

Is that the reason why Al !aeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc and possibly you are killing now?
Continue.

AntiChristian:
Quote verses and not one numbskull's video!
I didn't bring videos to you!

Best Terrorism verse of the day!
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:3

This story predates Mohammed. Would you say this is what inspired Mohammed to be a highway robber?

bigwig071:
is it the same Allah that is the greatest deceiver?

Yoo.

Lawag3:
Samson killed to defend himself he didn't go looking for the Philistines to kill them.

The spirit of the Lord enters Samson to give him strength Samson uses the strength to kill.

And when Samson disobeyed all the covenant God gave him he longer had access to the spirit of God.


He drank strong drink

Ate unclean food

Lastly the straw that broke the Carmels back he had his hair cut.


After Samson broke all of that the spirit of the Lord didn't come upon him and Samson lost his strength.

And besides Samson was born to librate Israel from the philistines. Which he eventually did at his death.

Don't try to teach Antichrist ian . He is an unrepentant, antichrist. He is a stupid fellow. It is better to puncture his ego. There are so many decent Muslims posting their beliefs and the beauty of their religion.

To the decent Muslims, accept my apology. To the stupid ones that are taking Bible passages out of context, it is better to make them look foolish.
There is no single ayat of the Quran that asks any Muslim to criticize the Bible.

Don't cast your pearls before this pig.

AntiChristian:
How will any Christian agree?

At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath. Matthew 12:1-2

They were more concerned with the Sabbath!

Show us the authentic evidence before laughing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhV39GRupZU#bottom-sheet





Hahaha

Little wonder Boko Haram killers are stealing girls in Borno.

bigwig071:
its written in Quran to lie to strengthen Islam

Holy lie - Al - taqqiya.

It is Allah's commandment nah!

E . shock you?

AntiChristian:
Jesus's disciples stole corn too and Jesus supported them comparing himself to David!

Which Christian agree with you on this?
Why was he not accused of stealing?

Show a Bible verse to support your claim.

What about your prophet made his in - law, drunk,blackmail him to marry Khadijat?

AntiChristian:
In Judges 15:14-16

As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men.

Then Samson said,

“With a donkey’s jawbone
I have made donkeys of them.
With a donkey’s jawbone
I have killed a thousand men.”

Background
Samson's girlfriend was given to his companion as wife. So he was vexed. He burnt the grains of the Philistines because of this. The Philistines who happens to be the ruling class came to request that Samson be capture and delivered to them from his people. He then allow his people to catch him and deliver him to the Philistine. As he was being delivered, the holy spirit came upon him, he broke loose and killed a thousand of them! Then Samson composed the above poem!

It can't get more confusing regarding this your Holy Spirit!

Why is it that Samson is always killing whenever the holy Spirit enters him?
Why does the Holy spirit keep entering him if he doesn't want him to kill?

Do you want us to believe that Holy Spirit entered Mohammed to be raiding Arabian merchants?

bigwig071:
Can any Muslim tell me just one good thing about Muhammad or Islam and also say one evil that Muhammad didn't commit according to Quran?

Mohammed is an example of honesty, the leader of mankind.

Islam is light 🕯️

Septic tank mouth mumu Professor

AntiChristian:
Diversion! Yeah, we have memorized it and we know the meaning! No be only English translation we dey read!
Go and tell your mum and Sisters to memorize how the daughters of Lot slept with their father in turn while giving him wine till they got pregnant after God saved them from sodomy to incest!

As a Muslim, why not teach us what you know about Islam, why do you need to ridicule yourself here.

You don't know Bible. Your boss, Yusuf Adepoju, Zakir Naik, and all of you rogue commentators are wasting your time and life.

What about your prophet accused of stealing underwear by his followers?

Wetin concern the media houses and bloggers on RCCG mata nah?


Make dem leave RCCG alone nah!

stevups:
100 correct. I'm a member too. Not ordinarily member

Sad

ganisucks:
This needs further investigation. The community should follow the case up. But jungle justice is a no-no.

But the dastardly act was committed in the jungle nah?!

AntiChristian:
Do a house fellowship with them as memory verses!
Include your women folks!

What about your prophet saying that sun sets in murky water. Did you memorize that one also?

AntiChristian:
Yes i know them! 29 Bleeping verses from the Bible!

What now is your problem with these verses?

AntiChristian:
Did the sheep eat the Qur'an from their memory too?
Have you ever seen a scripture being fully memorized by millions?

Chai see folly!

They memorize the satanic verses.


You know those verses that Satan influenced Mohammed (SAW) to recite?

johnydon22:
What if Christians provide logical explanations to this, would it change your mind?

It will not, spiritual things can only be understood by spiritual persons comparing the spiritual with the spiritual.

1 Corinthians 2:14
[14]But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Don't waste your time trying to convince him. Only pray for him.