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BetaThings: Of course you will deny
Google G J Moshay on Nairaland and you will notice that Christians have been discussing the stories he tells about Islam
What are the sources of his tales? Dreams?

sorry,i have read the book written by Morshay and the book opened my eyes so well and i have recommended the book for so many who read it open-mindedly and were released into the truth-i think you to should do likewise.

I am talking about the Bible.

Please do you know G.O morshay is not His real name?
Do you know that it was a decoy?
Well,i can't blame the man since our 'peaceful' islamic brothers want his head!

Http://islamreview.com/articles/islamiclies.shtml

http://religionresearchinstitute.org/mohammad/occultism.htm

OPENMINDEDLY!!!

tbaba1234: The article itself is full of lies... so much for been open minded

i was not expecting you to believe what was written therein,because you people are not ready to accept the truth,but that will not change anything.
Let me give you another one-
http://religionresearchinstitute.org.mohammad/occultism.htm.

Afterall history doesn't lie,enjoy.

omodapson: The bolded refers, why are Christian rights not being guaranteed/protected any more in most Islamic states/countries? Does it tell how tolerant Islam is?

don't mind them-hypocrites!

akande.james:
please pardon my response if it sounds rude or distasteful. i do not mean any wrong but just to answer d questn Samsantos9 asked...

to correct your impression, whatever quotation that comes from the Qurán is from God (Allah) and not Muhammad. Muhammad was just a channel through which the messages were relayed to the world.

if i understand your curiosity, Allah created us all and gave the prestige of prophet-hood to the jews. they were foremost as many prophet came from them.they were given the Torah however they went renegade and next in line was the Christians who were given the injeel (not the same bible we see today). they also mixed up the religious beliefs after Christ departed. Finally, the last revelation (the Qurán) given to Muhammad (from the same source-God)spells out what had preceded it in the former religions books, what the jews and christians did including warnings not to follow their wrong path which resulted in their loss.

like the yoruba adage goes, "A person who falls in a pit will be a lesson to others".
if u have any question and u seek to know more, i prefer a one on one in my inbox (akande.james1@gmail.com)

lies lies lies!
Can you tell me pls,when,how,where and who made the mixed up.
pls note,christains and muslims are not serving the same God,pls note.

BetaThings: A post full of insight, lessons and logic

There is nothing better for Muslims than to take the advice to set enviable examples - Honesty, civility, excellent work ethics, academic industry, non-violence etc. There is nothing to add really

Following the poster's advice will increase the weight of our voice when speak on issues including those "popular" trends that go against our religion. People will know that "Muslims don't fool around" and when they speak they are serious

As for the societal issues, I have some things to point out

Christians are the most insincere people in this country when it comes to the issue of secularity

A

2011 - Christians spoke loudly against Islamic Banking. Their reasons:
1. Nigeria is a secular country. Some people are trying to Islamise the country
2. It will further polarise the country. Boko Haram will take advantage of it
3. There will be call for "Amadioha" banking, "Oro" Banking etc
Please note that Islamic Banking does not cost the government money. I set it up with my money, CBN approves its licence and regulates its operations

2012 - the FCTA using Federal Govt Money built a National Christmas Tree. It was commissioned by Dame Patience Jonathan, First lady. Cardinal Onayekan was there. Ministers, members of diplomatic corps were also there

1. Now was that a constitutional act under a secular constitution?
2. Would it not polarise the country? Would Boko Haram be happy?
3. Would there be no call for "Amadioha" or "Oro" National Tree?

B
Zamfara declared Sharia. Every opportunity was taken to criticise it and raise alarm
Plateau state declared itself a Christian state. Nobody has uttered any word about Christianisation

C
Osun state changes the appellation of the state from Livinspring to Virtuous, CAN says the Gov wants to Islamise the state. They want an explanation of the change
Now what is the argument? CAN says that Christians regard Jesus as Livingspring, perhaps that is why the Muslim Gov wants to change the name, although some people have argued that Livingspring refers to Osun river

But let us look at this. If a state has a name that has Christian connotation, is it not an attempt at Christianisation? Did Muslims protest then? Or is it constitutional in Nigeria to Christianise a state but unlawful to Islamise it? Was an explanation given to people when it was so given the name with Christian connotation?

D
To be fair, CAN also states that the state schedule meetings for Sundays when people should be going to Church. Maybe that is unfair
But the state schedules meetings for Fridays when people should be going to the Mosque
Maybe we should make Friday workfree and go to work on Saturdays
That way Muslims don't have to take permission from work to go and pray on Fridays; Christians don't take permission from work to go to Church on Sundays
And at least we would have solved the problem of that girl (and her likes) who was beaten for putting on the hijab just outside the school gate on her way to Jumat service on a Friday

its just a pity that you have diverted from what the poster was trying to say. You have actually made this topic irrelevant.
Just as you said christains are insincere,you have just shone that you are hypocrites and biased.
There is nothing wrong in a girl wearing hijab to a school as long as it is a muslim school, the school rules and regulations allow it,a government school(there is nothin like a secular school).
Nobody will stop a muslim lady from wearing hijab in a federal university compared to a private university like convenant.

avalontony: This must be April fool from Mr president to Nigerians..........Gej u almost got me, but am not buying it. if they are not muslims what are they?
A. Aliens
B. Kryptonites
C.Ghosts
D. None of the above

E. GEJ relatives.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son,that whosoever believe in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16)

Pls someone shld tell me that i am dreaming,korea vs Us,another Hiroshima.

akthedream: What do you want us to do about that?..Do you want to blame Islam/Muslims for his death?..If una never mention Islam/Muslim for an hour,na so una blood go just dey hot like say una life depend on am.

and your mother will think that she has a child? I pity your generations unborn!

nbright: Christianity is diverse o... Pastor Chris said wanking isn't a sin while some other Pastors will tell you that it's a sin.... Who do we believe?... That's why I do my thing my way and wait till I meet the Lord to know if I do it the right or wrong way..

By waiting for the Lord? Dnt u think that it may be too late then,what if what you do your way is wrong when u meet the Lord? That means hell for you but God forbid!
The Lord has given us His word to study and meditate on-His word reveals His mind; and we also have the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us into all truth!
Concerning the topic,i will say that one should check the motives behind the kissing,what is the state of your mind when you are kissing? Also is kissing edifying? Do you know majority of premarital sex starts with a 'sincere' kissing and hugging'?
The Bible say we shld flee from appearance of evil;we shld not also give room for the devil!
2 Tim 2:22
run from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead pursue righteousness,faithfulness,love and peace...(NLT)
also read 2 thess 4:3-8.

adexsimply: hmmn..well, if the HOLY BIBLE is correct, i don't think PEACE is forthcoming

well,if he succeeds,then he is the anti-christ!

Osumare2013: And what solution will one-week-break produce So u can hav tym to cause more troubles Enemies of progress

Funaab is a peaceful sch and will remain a peaceful sch...there's nothing u can do abt dat. If u try to cause violence, na jail u dey go

funaab was a peaceful until when these commercial students were admitted,during my time(Balogun,God bless you),nothing like riot or fighting...i am proud to be a grad of funaab!
Fabulous funaabite!

ahmedyacoob: A Message to the True Christian Believer
By Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob
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John, Chapter 16, Verse 7, the only verse not yet removed from the bible that shows evidence of the coming of another Prophet, Isa (Jesus), peace be upon him, had told his people that he had to leave in order for him to send another,... ‘Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.'

According to Christian belief, it is said that Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was referring to the ‘Holy Spirit’ when he spoke of ‘The Comforter’, but what or who is the ‘Holy Spirit’?

The Holy spirit, or as Muslims refer to it as ‘Noor’ meaning light was the first creation of the Almighty God recorded in Surah 56 Verse 62 of the 'Last TESTAMENT' and this light was so powerful that God Almighty had divided it, and He used a minute part of it to create the heavens and the worlds, He used a part of it to bring life to Adam and Eve from the dust and soil that they had been created from and the majority of it was manifested into a being, a human, a human like non other seeing as how and from what he had been created, this human as we know him is the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him), therefore when Isa (Jesus) (peace be upon him) spoke about leaving so that he could send to us the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the light, he was referring to the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him). Jesus (peace be upon him) also mentioned the name of the Comforter whom would come, he referred to him as Ahmed, which was the name that Muhammed's (peace be upon him) mother used to call him, however this was removed from the bible because the Christians of those days didn't want to accept Muhammed (PBUH) as the last messiah as Jesus (PBUH) had prophesized, because he was from a different tribe as them, just as the Jews didn't want to accept Jesus (PBUH) as the messiah because he was from a different tribe as them.

If only the word of Christ (peace be upon him) was kept unchanged from his blessed lips then everyone would have had a better understanding.

You may wonder thou, if Jesus (PBUH) was born a Jew, then why wasn’t he accepted by the Jewish reverend.

From Abraham (peace be upon him), was born two sons, Ishmael (Ismail) and Isaac, from the linage of Isaac we get Jacob (Yacoob), David (Dawood), Solomon (Suleiman) and later on Moses (Moosa) all said to be Jewish prophets but all mentioned in the Bible (New testament) and Quraan (Last testament) and from that same linage yet distant from Moosa (peace be upon him) was born Jesus (peace be upon him), all from the linage of Isaac (peace be upon him), but due to the distant relation between Jesus and Moses the Jewish reverend was blinded in seeing the pure bloodline shared between these two blessed souls and therefore seized to accept Jesus (PBUH) as done to Muhammed by both the Christian and Jewish reverend, alas from the linage of Ismail (peace be upon him) was born Muhammed (peace be upon him)...... All three, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed, all from the same divine and pure blood line of Abraham, the father of religion, whose one true message was, worship only the One God, for it is he who has created you.

Another point to make mention of is that when Christ returns if u call out to him as Jesus Christ, he will not respond to you, because he does not know this name, he has never heard it before, Jesus (peace be upon him) was born a Jew, and the name Jesus can not be found anywhere in the Jewish dictionary, his mother named him Esau, from Jewish and Hebrew origin and this is the name of which he knows, in Islam this name is translated to Isa, also bare in mind that Jesus did not speak English hence he would have a name of Hebrew origin.

To the respected Christian believer, YES, you are right, Jesus is coming!!! …..He is coming to kill the antichrist, at which point he will RATIFY the religion of Islam (which essentially means 'PEACE' DUE TO OUR SUBMISSION TO GOD'S WILL) and the worship of the ONE true God. According to Quran (Last Testament), Jesus will descend from the skies with an Angel on either side of him in Damascus.

By- Muhammed Ebrahim
Final Edit- Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob

To further your knowledge on Islam, Click on the link and read only 49 pages ... http://www.wattpad.com/798775-divinity-understood-from-a-mundane-perspective

be decieving yourself!
You better accept Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour and stop this deceit!
And stop twisting the Bible!

ahmedyacoob: A Message to the True Christian Believer
By Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob
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John, Chapter 16, Verse 7, the only verse not yet removed from the bible that shows evidence of the coming of another Prophet, Isa (Jesus), peace be upon him, had told his people that he had to leave in order for him to send another,... ‘Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.'

According to Christian belief, it is said that Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was referring to the ‘Holy Spirit’ when he spoke of ‘The Comforter’, but what or who is the ‘Holy Spirit’?

The Holy spirit, or as Muslims refer to it as ‘Noor’ meaning light was the first creation of the Almighty God recorded in Surah 56 Verse 62 of the 'Last TESTAMENT' and this light was so powerful that God Almighty had divided it, and He used a minute part of it to create the heavens and the worlds, He used a part of it to bring life to Adam and Eve from the dust and soil that they had been created from and the majority of it was manifested into a being, a human, a human like non other seeing as how and from what he had been created, this human as we know him is the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him), therefore when Isa (Jesus) (peace be upon him) spoke about leaving so that he could send to us the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the light, he was referring to the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him). Jesus (peace be upon him) also mentioned the name of the Comforter whom would come, he referred to him as Ahmed, which was the name that Muhammed's (peace be upon him) mother used to call him, however this was removed from the bible because the Christians of those days didn't want to accept Muhammed (PBUH) as the last messiah as Jesus (PBUH) had prophesized, because he was from a different tribe as them, just as the Jews didn't want to accept Jesus (PBUH) as the messiah because he was from a different tribe as them.

If only the word of Christ (peace be upon him) was kept unchanged from his blessed lips then everyone would have had a better understanding.

You may wonder thou, if Jesus (PBUH) was born a Jew, then why wasn’t he accepted by the Jewish reverend.

From Abraham (peace be upon him), was born two sons, Ishmael (Ismail) and Isaac, from the linage of Isaac we get Jacob (Yacoob), David (Dawood), Solomon (Suleiman) and later on Moses (Moosa) all said to be Jewish prophets but all mentioned in the Bible (New testament) and Quraan (Last testament) and from that same linage yet distant from Moosa (peace be upon him) was born Jesus (peace be upon him), all from the linage of Isaac (peace be upon him), but due to the distant relation between Jesus and Moses the Jewish reverend was blinded in seeing the pure bloodline shared between these two blessed souls and therefore seized to accept Jesus (PBUH) as done to Muhammed by both the Christian and Jewish reverend, alas from the linage of Ismail (peace be upon him) was born Muhammed (peace be upon him)...... All three, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed, all from the same divine and pure blood line of Abraham, the father of religion, whose one true message was, worship only the One God, for it is he who has created you.

Another point to make mention of is that when Christ returns if u call out to him as Jesus Christ, he will not respond to you, because he does not know this name, he has never heard it before, Jesus (peace be upon him) was born a Jew, and the name Jesus can not be found anywhere in the Jewish dictionary, his mother named him Esau, from Jewish and Hebrew origin and this is the name of which he knows, in Islam this name is translated to Isa, also bare in mind that Jesus did not speak English hence he would have a name of Hebrew origin.

To the respected Christian believer, YES, you are right, Jesus is coming!!! …..He is coming to kill the antichrist, at which point he will RATIFY the religion of Islam (which essentially means 'PEACE' DUE TO OUR SUBMISSION TO GOD'S WILL) and the worship of the ONE true God. According to Quran (Last Testament), Jesus will descend from the skies with an Angel on either side of him in Damascus.

By- Muhammed Ebrahim
Final Edit- Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob

To further your knowledge on Islam, Click on the link and read only 49 pages ... http://www.wattpad.com/798775-divinity-understood-from-a-mundane-perspective

be decieving yourself!
You better accept Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour and stop this deceit!

Originalsly: Hmmm....I didn't know that God will judge us on what we hear. And I didn't know God was in Heaven taking notes. Are you suggesting God has to write down these things or he may firget? This what you have just said...talking about what God is doing...heavenly things that you know nothing about...is nothing less than blasphemy. Don't for a minute think this is funny. The way you talk you have no fear of God and as if God is your buddy.No Christian should ever even entertain the thought of what God is doing or will do much less to broadcast it to the world.

you are funny,and you don't know God is watching us oon earth,everything we do,say and He will judge us based on that,so pls take note!
Jesus said that we will be judged by what we say!
So be careful!

Pastor Kun: Sorry but going by the fruits Adeboye displays and the false doctrine he teachings[including false prophecies] i do not consider Adeboye to be a genuine man of God.

funny that it is human that is speaking,i thought it was a sort of God that was speaking,whether you like him or not,that is yur own cup of tea,the man is moving forward,God is blssing Him and he is heaven-bond,i think u shld work on yourself so that you won't end up in Hell!

Wait a minutes, can you talk to your dad like this!
Smh

PHIPEX: This is to my understanding is the very reason why the Bible says that the letters of the Bible kills but the spirit behind the Bible gives life,(2Cor 3:6). Someone who follows simply the letters of the Bible (especially regarding this issue) could very well justify whatever he does even with scriptures to backup. The king James for instance sometimes uses the word "wine" as alcohol but in most cases it differentiates Alcoholic wines (which it calls Strong drinks) from Non-alcoholics.

Le 10:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:

Nu 6:3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, [/b]neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.[b]

De 29:6 Ye have not eaten bread, neither have ye drunk wine or strong drink: that ye might know that I am the LORD your God.

Jg 13:4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing:

Jg 13:7 But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink, neither eat any unclean thing: for the child shall be a Nazarite to God from the womb to the day of his death.

Jg 13:14 She may not eat of any thing that cometh of the vine, neither let her drink wine or strong drink, nor eat any unclean thing: all that I commanded her let her observe.

1Sa 1:15 And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the LORD.

I can go on and on...

I believe any christian who understands the level of his relationship with God will not use a simple instruction given to Timothy by Paul due to his ill health at the time to undermine over 20 other contrary instructions from God. Even if one is able to justify the drinking of alcohol but for the level of debates it's generating, the love and meekness in a christian should be able to make such a one to desist from it in order not to drag the name of God to disrepute.

in 1 Cor 8:8 Paul said he has the faith to eat (drink) anything and nothing will happen neither will he feel condemned but he went further to say in 1Co 8:10 "For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat(food and drinks) in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols." In verse 13 he said " Wherefore, if meat(food and drinks) make my brother to offend (sin), I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend."

God bless you real good,i think ppl like frosbel shld read this your post,they because they always drinking 'wine'will look for a scripture to backup their sins-that is a lying spirit!

God bless you!

Originalsly: I was against this hmmm...hypocrite's teachings being posted on front page in this forum where religious threads are not allowed....except his. I now support the postings....so that he can be exposed.Jesus turned water into wine for people to drink...the Bible also recommended drinking a little wine....now here is this MOG basically saying what Jesus did was bad. The Spirit of God will leave if the spirit of alcohol is entertained!hmmm...never know alcohol was that kind of spirit! Lol...d man had to be drinking before writing this garbage....and and drinking way pass moderation!

you make think that this is funny but it is not funny at all!
You may thing that what you just posted does not matter,but God wil judge us all based on what we hear,say and do! Just note that your comment has been noted in heaven,and other nairalanders that abuses any man of God!
God is watching in 3D!

frosbel: There is no such thing as the spirit of liquor in the bible, if there is , please show me the chapter and verse.

There is no difference between a glutton and a drunkard, the key is moderation.

If you cannot control yourself , do not take alcohol. I personally take a little wine now and again, Timothy in the bible did for his stomach ailment.

As for storing liquor in the home, it is not recommended especially due to the children.

"Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand." - Philippians 4:5


As for immorality, of course, this is one of the most destructive sins and to endure in it without repentance is to risk eternal damnation.

pls no offence,but you need to ask God for His Holy Spirit-You have a lying spirit in you!
A lying spirit will tell you what you are doing is good and even give you scriptures to back it up just as you have done!
I believe it is bcus you take wine,that is why you are saying this;samething goes for tithing too,you willl always look for a scripture to back yourself up(i have been there before)-that is the work of a lying spirit!
Pls get the book-demon possession and how to be free,you will see therein that there is a spirit behind alcohol! Because how would you explain a man that beats his wife while drunk!
Pleas what about smoking? I bet you will say it is not wrong too and we should be moderate in that too!

tpacalipse: If tithe and offering are banned from churches, I wonder how many pastors will continue being pastors.

you have been misled,the true church of Jesus don't depend on tithe or offering but on Jesus,He will supply all our needs according to His riches in Glory,even His church!

Valto: so people don mumu reach to even pay tithe on their school fees... how then are u going to complete it and pay the school fees tithing have no place for a christian that knows his bible very well...God is no money doubler, and the death of our lord jesus on the cross freed us from (mosiac law) tithing! help the poor around u and God will richly bless u.

tithe paying is not mosaic law!

cecegorz: Lovely expose you got here. It shows how God loves the relationship with his people.
I've always known that God is not against alcohol, but because it's addictive and can influence one's judgement negatively, I believe we should be cautious.
That's why it said in Prov. 31 that 'it is not for kings to drink alcohol, lest they forget the law and pervert justice'

see how you have misled this guy?

frosbel2: It is my business what the Pastor does with my money , it is not his money , he did not wake up by 5am to go to work and come back by 6pm and sometimes even 8pm.

Therefore, I must understand what my money is used for. I do not want my money, the money I worked hard for, to go to the building of larger temples and mega churches, making pastors live like kings while the poor are left to suffer in need etc.

This is my advice to your pastors :

"He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need." - Ephesians 4:28

Tell me Sir, since you and your pastors know more than Paul, why did Paul not use this opportunity to ask them to work for the purpose of paying Tithes and Offerings ? Instead he asked them to share with the needy.

Tithe preachers STOP STEALING from the POOR to make the richer RICHER.

i will leave with this-please read 1 cor 9:11-15.

Please i hope you are saved,because this our argument about tithe will not either of us to heaven!

frosbel2: I don't pay tithes, but have a wonderful career, good health and a family God has blessed me with.

Away with your LIE called the TITHE.

i bet you are satisfy with your level as you are now!
God still wants to do more for you,but you have to walk in that realm by paying your tithe!

danny301: Christianity is a way of life and one the major issue about Christianity is that it has to do with instructions... It's one thing to give yet it's another thing to give according to God's instructions. Tithes are not meant to be given to individuals as alms but to be paid to the Church authority... The Pastor is not God but he is God's man in the sanctuary so he decides how the tithes should be used...Every church need money to survive, and i think tithe is the major source of income of many churches ..... Follower-ship has to do with trust and loyalty and for any one to be a committed member of any church he must trust the leadership of the church to do right even with the money that comes to the church if you cannot trust and submit urself to the leadership of any church you certainly don't belong there....... If you want do alms-giving it mustn't be in church, it can be on the street or even in orphanage homes and it must not be with tithe, it can be ur whole salary or u can even sell ur house for that purpose, there is no big deal but teaching people to come to church and call out the need-dies and be giving them tithe is certain not one of God's command neither is it an acceptable way of doing good works....... I can see that many people are becoming unnecessarily obsessed about Pastors living fine as if pastors are not human beings.... In as much as i hate it when pastors make merchandise of their members for greediness yet we must accept the fact that pastors deserves good cars and even houses like other people.... If the hip-top artist and comedians that gather people to tell them practical lies and (dirty) jokes deserves good lives i feel the pastor that teaches people the way of eternal deserves more..... Many Pastors i know would definitely be doing better financially they were to follow their else-while careers.

thank You and God will bless you,i think you have said it all!
Most people don't want to give tithes and offering because they are very stingy and greedy too(i.e if they will be sincere).
It is a rebellious xtain that wants to know by all means what his pastor does with offering or tithe!
People shld prayerfully read matt 23:23!

frosbel2: God does not eat Tithes and Offerings , it all goes into the account of the church and they use it to buy Jets, build bigger temples , enrich the rich and throw away some crumbs to the poor.

Mate, don't get me started this afternoon, Is GOD a money doubler ? You think the church is a bingo hall or casino where you put 10 Naira and God throws back 1000 Naira or gives you a wive or a husband, maybe a bigger house , probably a better car etc.

God blesses hard work not laziness.

Money lovers with their itching ears, no wonder they are deceived.

i cannot be misled at all,at first i don't pay tithe too but later i was given understanding,what your pastor does with your tithe is non of your business,pls!
You jus leave them to God to judge;actually tithes shld be usd to propagate the gospel etc!
No matter you say,you cannot change anything;if the whole world decides not to pay tithe,God will still continue to take care of His church(the true church);God is not in need of money and He is all sufficient but God is not a magician that will throw money on our laps(though He can do that),but He wants us to sow(by paying our tithe and offering);tithe is a seed you sow for God to bless you;so it is a matter of choice,you can decide not to pay tithe or not!

Lets leave the issue of tithe and talk about the salvation of our souls,tithe paying will never take you to heaven but salvation(new birth will),accept Jesus today!

[PortHarcourtBoy]Me sef no dey kukuma dey pay tithe give anybody and Baba God still dey bless me...

Same God wey create Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc...still dey bless everybody, whether you dey pay tithe or not...[/quote]God has not been really blessing you,blessing is not been limited to money along,it goes a long way than that;what you enjoy when you pay tithe is protection,provision,insight,wisdom etc!

[quote author=frosbel][/quote]when i saw this post,i went straight to see the poster and i wasnt surprised!

If you want to pay your tithe to the poor or whoever but stop tellin ppl what is wrong,stop telling them what is not in the Bible,stop misleading ppl and placing a curse on yourself and your generations to come-there is a differnt between offering and tithe please!
Tithe is for God,and what your do with the tithe is not your business,yours is to pay and let God bless you!

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