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[quote author=De_Ineffable]please ask the idiot[/quote]musketo the Athiest...smh

ifeness: My brother, its better to doubt everything and find your light. I would rather believe nothing than believe the wrong ones....the end of religion is the beginning of wisdom.

i would rather believe something and end up well,than believe nothing and REGRET IT LATER.

tintingz: Jesus is Yeshua in hebrew and Yeesa/Isa in arabic and he worship God Allah/Ellah/Eloi
Daz all...

well like i said...that is what your quaran says...daz all.

The koran says itself that Jesus is the Word of God...it also also says that Christ was given the Spirit of God''.
(how cld koran have such marvellous truth as this, and so many of its followers are blinded(by their imams)).
Jesus did not bow to Allah(an idol).

tintingz: you should know that Jesus worship Allah a.k.a Ellah/Eloi

your own jesus(isah),not Jesus of the Bible.

Just as the God of the Bible is diffrent from ur allah; Jesus of the Bible also differs from ur quranic jesus...

nwando: To that Episcopal priest,the Bible says in Matt 7
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15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves[/size]

1 million likes,
i wonder where the priest put that in His Bible...no mosque will ever allow christains to pray in their mosque-i am talking from experience;all muslims are the same-they are all wolves in sheep's clothing,it is just that some know how to tame the wolf inside them(for a time).

And some of them will say UK is a christain country...
Lets follow this thread,very soon you will hear that the man has been slaughtered,that was what quran (mohammedic Allah)thought them...marry their daughters,migrate to their country,have many children,but when you are more than them,turn them to islam(terrorists),if they refuse...killing things...
May God help us all.

Seun: What would you like me to do about it?


So many good people have commented on this thread. Deleting it completely is equivalent to slapping every one of them in the face. I can't possibly do that. By the way, We absolutely do not hide threads where politicians are abused. If any moderator is doing that, it's contrary to my explicit directives. You should report such cases to me so I can correct them. I think that any true religion can stand against criticism. THE THINGS BEING SAID HERE ARE NOT WORSE THAN WHAT THE PHARISEES SAID TO JESUS AFTER ALL, AND YET HE PREVAILED. God doesn't need to be protected by us.

Hmmm@the bolded,i believe what you said,the pharasee did more to Jesus(even paul did worse,yet he failed and he was saved) and YET HE PREVAILED,THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF CRITICS,RANTING,HATRED CAN CHANGE THE FACT THAT GOD IS GOD, AND JESUS CAME TO DIE FOR THE WORLD,SHED HIS BLOOD AND ROSE THE THIRD DAY...NOBODY CAN CHANGE THAT FACT...THE PEOPLE HERE ARE SO SMALL TO DO THAT...JESUS LIVES FOREVER...HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY,TODAY AND FOREVER...
The Bible says anyone that doesn't believe that Jesus is Lord and His offer of salvation is of the Devil,so i am not surprised,these people are agents of darkness who are being sent to speak against Jesus(AND HE ALSO DIED FOR THEM AND HE IS READY TO ACCEPT THEM IF THEY REPENT),but just like THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL,they will not succeed,bcus even their father the devil knows the truth and he trembles and he is also working to bring so many ppl to destruction...it is just so unfortunate that NL has become a platform for the ANTI-CHRISTs To pass accross their message(of which it is expected)...its shows that this is the end time indeed.
(THE THINGS OF GOD ARE FOOLISHNESS TO THOSE THAT PERISHES).

My fellow christains,please hold unto what you believe(BCUS NOBODY CAN CHANGE MINE,JESUS IS THE LORD OF MY LIVE,HE IS MY SAVIOUR,THERE IS NOTHING ANY DEVIL IN human can do about that),hold unto Jesus,the author and finsher of our faith...the only hope of the world,the saviour of the world-(the devil beheld His glory and tremble)...and don't forget...as many that are led by the Spirit of God,they are the sons of God...the Lord knows those that are His.
HE COMETH SOON.

God bless us all.

tamarabu: that was really stupid of you..........next time just keep quite

don't mind him,as if he was there,he can't even proof what he said.
Perishing soul.

Romans 3:22-26 (NLT)
22- we are made right with God by placing our faith in Christ Jesus. And this is true for anyone who believe no matter who we are.
23- for everyone has sinned;we have fallen short of God's standard.
24-yet God, with undeserved kindness,declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins.
25-for God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrifice His life ,shedding His blood. This sacrifice shows that God was been fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned at the time past.
26- for He was looking ahead and including them in what He would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate His righteousness,for He himself is fair and just, and He declares sinners to be right in His sight when they believe in Jesus Christ.

Thank You Jesus.
Accept God offer of salvation today,tomorrow maybe too late.

God bles us all.

One of mine favourite Bible verses.
Romans 8:35-39.

35-WHO shall seperate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril or SWORD?

36-As it is written: ''for your sake we are KILLED all day long: we are counted as sheep for the slaughter''.

37-Yet in all these things we are more than CONQUEROR through Him(Jesus) who love Us.

38- For i am persuaded that neither DEATH, nor life,nor Angels,nor principalities nor powers, nor THINGS PRESENT NOR THINGS TO COME.
39- Nor height, nor depth nor any other created things shall be able to seperate us from the love of God which is in CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD.
Amen.
(The Bible is complete).

God bless us all.

adoniza: Bro, if God did give us "free-will", then it simply means that we have choices, and that no one can "tell" what we would be doing in the next 20 min including "God himself".

So if God does not know what I would be doing in the next 20 min, then he is not "Omniscient".

And if he is not omniscient then the "bible lied"

No??

bros,i won't like to go into arguments with you...i won't even try and convince you because it is not my Job to do that...
But i want you know that God has given us the abilty to choose(either life or death).
Even at that we human will still complain if He choose for us(and i believ that what He tried to avoid).
God is omni-potent,Omni-present and Omni-science(dn't ask me to proof,cus i wnt).
He gave Adam a choice- and He ensure that He didnt interfare in His decision bcus He knew that Adam will blame Him jus as He did to eve if He interfares. (He even blamed God for given him eve)And Adam choice actually brought him consequences.
God knew the consequences and He told him...so it was left for adam to choose.
God knows what you will do in 20mins time and He knows the consequences or results too but He will not interfare...He will leave you to do it and the results will also come with it,imagine if he tries to choose for you and d results is bad,then you will continue to complain again that it was Him.(He had done that before and we made Him regrets it).

Also,God has offer us a gift; salvation through Jesus Christ.
Sin came to the world through Adam and salvation came through Jesus...and when we are born,we are born with a sin-ful nature,Jesus came to give us another nature-God's nature.
And God has given us the will to decide(choose) to accept His offer of salvation(Jesus Christ),but reject this also have consequence and He will not force us to accept it.

Make a decision today and accept Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour,tomorrow maybe too late.

Jesus loves You,I love you,
God bless us all.

musKeeto: Lol.. a VIRGIN gave birth.. lmao... and her Son died a VIRGIN too. right?

On a serious note, it takes only FAITH to believe these things.. and any other of the religious stories that exist..

Yes,that is what it takes,Faith in Christ Jesus, His offer of salvation...

Without faith,it is imposible to please God,because those who come to Him must believe that He exists (He is) and He is the rewarder of those that diligently seek Him...heb 11:6

God is a wonderful God,He gives us free-will(the ability to choose),He will not force us to do anything,it is only Satan that uses force-God does not tamper with our will, so we can decide to give our will to Him or to follwo satan- but we should all know that whatever we do,will always bring consequences-most things that we see happening is as a result of our action-God will not interfare in our affairs unless we invite Him,if we don't invite Him,He won't interfare(a gentle God)-He will only be waiting for us to come back to Him,but we don't He won't force us-i think that one difference between Him and satan,who will want to interfare by force,whether you invite Him or not.
But as for me,i have made that decision many years ago,to submit my will to God, to follow Him and believ and accept His offer of salvation(Jesus Christ) and nothing and nobody can change that...not even anybody in this NL.
As for me and my household...WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!

God bless us all.

I can't just imagine what is written here.
There is no point trying to proof anything,there is no point of trying to show that Jesus came,died and rose again.
Whether you believe it or not,whether you accept it or not,it does not matter or change anything...all the comments here does not and will not change anything,it will not change the fact that God is God,that Jesus died,rose and ascended to heaven,there is nothing anybody can do about that,there is nothing anybody can do about the millions christain in the world.
(...the Lord knows those who are His),
So continue to argue,curse and rants...these will not add anything or remove anything from God and will not change the fact that Jesus is Lord, and He died for the sins of the world and He is coming back real soon!
So letus all think about what will happen when we die,where are we going after death...May God bless us all!

idnoble135: dt intepretation ws rong and totally off point. Intepret acordin 2 context.
Anyway, i aint going 2 reply u again, bt u will do urself gud if u start reading bible 4 urself, n also join a bible study group.

pls don't answer him again,the guy is deep in false teachings and doctrine,ppl that turns and twist the bible-they are been possessed by a lying and deceiving spirit.
The guy need to change his church,join a bible believing study group and prayerfully study the bible by the help of the Holy Spirit too.
God bless us all.

dougivilla: About 32 years ago, this ministry like many others started, but unlike many that have long closed up, its still growing in leaps and bounds.

In all fairness don't you think a ministry that has survived this long deserves commendation? At least we have a bright side to the whole scenero. How many nairalanders are up to 30 years old? How many of us have tried running business ventures, even for a calender year or two without running it under? Even if the man no dash people money as una dey think say him suppose to, are you aware that the commission has in its employ, over 150,000 active employees as Pastors, lecturers, drivers, security, teachers, caterers, bankers, attendants, accountants etc and many more as contractors, technical partners, consultants and other indirect employees?

Imagine that we have up to 100 of such institutions in Nigeria, do you think we would still have as many jobless people as we currently have on NL moving from thread to thread, seeking for whom to run down?

People will always quarrel with what they can't comprehend. Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo is simply a phenomenon, God has made him the next wonder of the world and theres nothing anyman can do to whom God has blessed
Quit the hate and keep on working hard and praying. If he can do it for the bishop, He can do it for me and you!

GBAM...i owe you a kiss(peck) and hug in heaven,please remind me when we get there!
(continue to hate d man while he prospers and prospers and prospers).

laytoshtwo: What I have learnt from full time critics,they don't do well in anything except their field criticism

yes,leave them,let them continue to criticize them while they(the man of God) continue to prosper and prosper and prosper...some ppl are just so funny; leave the men of God alone, face your own rotten lives,let God be the jugde and stop taken His role(of which you can't),you ppl have not even seen anything yet,honestly!
Let us fix our own lives first and fulfil His mandate-preaching of the Gospel.
Please if you are not satisfy,go and create your own church pls and pls.
God bless us all.

obadiah777: I CAN MAKE JUDGEMENTS ON PEOPLE
1 CORINTHIANS 2 VS 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man <<< AND I AM TELLING YOU THE MAN IS OF SATAN

yes now,you are both in the same occultic group now..smh!

Evestar200: What happen to house help?

what happens if the househelp snatches ur husband?

Mark 12:30-31.
30- And you must love the Lord your God with all your heart,all your soul,all your mind, and all your strength.
31- the second is equally important: ' Love your neihgbour as yourself'. No other commandment is greater than these.(i.e all other commandments are embedded in this).

'FORGIVENESS'
IF only we all have this 'quality',the world will be a better place!
God help us all!

Deep Sight: Jesus' teaching in this regard is very misguided and wrong indeed. It is in fact a very dangerous pacifist ideology which would lead the world into anarchy and impunity if adhered to. If people believe that when they hurt other people, the victims would "turn the other cheek" then such people would lose any sense of consequences/ retaliation and continue to act with impunity. There would be no sense of deterrence.

If someone slaps you, the correct thing to do is to slap him right back with overwhelming force and ten times over for that matter. That way, he would immediately learn his lesson and would not attempt such again. In fact, in so doing, you would have made him a better person through discipline and learning the consequences of his actions. You would have taught him that every action begets a reaction and made him wise to the laws of Karma and Nemesis. You have in fact done him a favour

Spare the rod and spoil the child, is another way of saying it: from same scripture, no?

I was watching the series "Merlin" and I saw an episode in which there was a band of robbers who attacked a village every year and seized their ENTIRE harvest, killing anyone who dared to keep back even a morsel to eat and survive. When Arthur arrived on the scene he taught the villagers to FIGHT BACK and protect their harvest, killing the robbers if necessary. This is the CORRECT teaching, and falls in sync with the laws of nature: i.e - survival of the fittest. Maybe Saint Jesus would have taught otherwise? Arrant nonsense.

Weakness is a sin.

this is not weakness. What will you gain by retaliating? What joy would you derive?
What Jesus was saying there is simply ''forgiveness''.
Not slapping back or retaliating is not weakness,it is maturity-talking from experience.

Mark 12:30-31.
30- And you must love the Lord your God with all your heart,all your soul,all your mind, and all your strength.
31- the second is equally important: ' Love your neihgbour as yourself'. No other commandment is greater than these.(i.e all other commandments are embedded in this)

obadiah777: JESUS FIRST COMING WAS A REINCARNATION, NEVER MIND HIS SECOND COMING. JOHN 1 VS 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. <<< FROM THE BEGINNING OF CREATION WAS THE WORD.

WHO IS THE WORD ?

REV 19 VS 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God <<< THE WORD IS CHRIST. SO CHRIST WAS AROUND FROM THE BEGINNING

JOHN 1 VS 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth <<<< THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND DWELT WITH US 2000 YEARS AGO.

SO SOMEONE WHO EXISTED FROM THE BEGINNING BECAME FLESH 2000 YEARS AGO TO BE ON EARTH. WHAT THAT TELL YOU ?

please don't be decieved by the devil,Jesus christ did not reincarnate(a believe dt after death,a soul live again in another body),Jesus did not die in before is first coming,please don't be decieved,He was God-man on earth!
Col 1:15
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God; He existed before anything was created and He is supreme over all creation.
(pls read further to vs 20).

Also read Phil 2:6-11.

John 1:21
''Well, then, who are you?'' they asked. ' Are you Elijah?'
''No,'l he replied.
''Are you the prophet we have been expecting?''
''No''.

Please stop saying, heresy!
God help us all!

tbaba1234: For each name that had been 'killed', I will give you 10 millionaires or more... it is a booming industry.. many gullible people to deceive.

you are just shying away from the truth,you know he is saying the truth.

obadiah777: YET ANOTHER ONE
2 ESDRAS 14 VS 35 For after death shall the judgment come, when we shall live again: and then shall the names of the righteous be manifest, and the works of the ungodly shall be declared

2 EDRAS?
Wait a minute? You are mormon? Christ.Romans 1: 18-25. Rev 22:18-19.
Jesus loves You.
I am out!

obadiah777: JOHN AND ELIJAH ARE THE SAME PEOPLE.

MATTHEW 11 VS 14 "And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come <<< REINCARNATION.

Jesus was refering to Him as Elijah of His own time.
(i am sure you know the kind of life Elijah lived)

obadiah777: HEY BRUV YUZEDO WHATS GOOD. YES AFTER HE PAYS FOR THAT HE RETURNS WITH CLEAN SLATE. THEN WHATEVER HE LOGS ON TO THAT CLEAN SLATE WILL BE PAID IN NEXT LIFE. LOL NO CARRY-OVER OF PUNISHMENTS OVER 4 LIFE-TIMES. BOOK OF HEBREWS SAYS ONE JUDGEMENT PER LIFE. IT DOES NOT ACCRUE. AND PEOPLE LIKE HITLER AND IDI-AMIN ARE RAISED UP BY THE LORD AS MASS PUNISHMENT FOR PEOPLE. MAYBE THE SIN IN THE LAND IS SO GREAT AND THE LORD WANTS TO CLEAN HOUSE AND PASS JUDGEMENT TO MANY PEOPLE AT ONCE, HE WOULD RAISE UP A TYRANT LIKE STALIN HITLER AND IDI-AMIN. SO WHILE THEY ARE DOING THEIR EVIL DEED, THEY ARE NOT COERCED INTO DOING IT SO THAT THE LORD IS KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. HAVING AN EVIL MAN CLEAN HOUSE AND AT THE SAME TIME HAVING THE EVIL MAN SIN AGAINST HIS OWN SOUL WITH HIS ACTS. SO HE ( IDI-AMIN ETC ) GETS A VIOLENT JUDGEMENT IN NEXT LIFE BUT IT DOES NOT CARRY OVER PAST THE NEXT LIFE.

stop this please,the Bible say it has been appointed for man to die once,after that judgement!

obadiah777: WHO DID WHAT TO ME ?
1 JOHN 4 VS 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL. THATS WHY YOU MADE YOUR POST

guy please you are misleading people,there is nothing like reincarnation-it is message from the pit of hell-please,stop twisting the bible!

defemz: Everybody see what i ve been saying, when christian preachers admonish their members not to give birth to the number of children they will not be able to cater for, muslim clerics quoting from the quran admonish the ummah to continue marrying wives and procreate with reckless abandon in a bid to dominate the world through population. The op is a product of unplanned and reckless procreation from a brainwashed parent who could not afford to give him quality education as evidenced in his faulty postings. Look around you whether in the north or south of Nigeria. Their children are either mechanic, agbero, almajiri, vulcanizers all because of foolishly heeding the directives of their archaic prophet(PBUH).
Your religion is pretty messed up. To many of you muslims in the southwest that are apologetic to your fellow muslims in the north killing christians and other innocent people,you may not have the blood of these innocent people in you hands, but you sure have their blood in your conscience.

And actually,i can't stop thinkng about this-a muslim Male can marry non-muslim females(inorder to populate the world actually with muslims,i guess u knw what that means).BUT a non-muslim brother must not marry a muslim sister(i smell fear-they actually knw what will happen).

Another strategy- migrate to a non-muslim country,reside there,marry their ladies,have many children and many children...when your population is far more than them...boom-fight them with your life until they accept islam! That is what is happening in America nd Europe-time of eruption is coming!

defemz: Everybody see what i ve been saying, when christian preachers admonish their members not to give birth to the number of children they will not be able to cater for, muslim clerics quoting from the quran admonish the ummah to continue marrying wives and procreate with reckless abandon in a bid to dominate the world through population. The op is a product of unplanned and reckless procreation from a brainwashed parent who could not afford to give him quality education as evidenced in his faulty postings. Look around you whether in the north or south of Nigeria. Their children are either mechanic, agbero, almajiri, vulcanizers all because of foolishly heeding the directives of their archaic prophet(PBUH).
Your religion is pretty messed up. To many of you muslims in the southwest that are apologetic to your fellow muslims in the north killing christians and other innocent people,you may not have the blood of these innocent people in you hands, but you sure have their blood in your conscience.

And actually,i can't stop thinkng about this-a muslim Male can marry non-muslim females(inorder to populate the world actually with muslims,i guess u knw what that means).BUT a non-muslim brother must not marry a muslim sister(i smell fear-they actually knw what will happen).

vedaxcool: We pray Allah guides her right!

@haters they will always be people who face difficulty in practicing their religion! Nice to see christians always been backed by their atheist allies!

so christains and athiest are now allies..funny!

[quote author=Paris-Love]Can't the hypocritical muslims here make their points without unnecessary dragging Christians into their rants?[/quote]i have issues with that too,why can't they just forget about christains, as in can't they just talk without leaving xtains out of it...haaaah!

gidiMonsta: The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie. Lizzie even knighted the weasel for the book of lies, that's how far your terrorvangelist brothers will go to discredit Islam.

i am not in for arguments,but when we have to go the length of lying just to make a point,then i will not be a part of that!

Its like your knowledge about this guy, Salman rushdie is 'small'!
Do you know that he was born a muslim?
That he became an atheist later on.(he was never a christain).
He was knighted based on His work in literature?
He married four wives(d guy still v a little of islam in him) and divorced all?
The book caused alot of 'atrocities',in the islamic countries that 10 of these countries ban his book and thousands of ppl were killed,bookshops burnt,by our muslim brothers,etc.
A 'fatwa' was place upon him by 'almighty' Ayhatollah-he should be killed by any muslim...even after Ayhatollah's death,the fatwa was not removed and the money placed on him was increased 3 times($2.2m,$2.3m and $3.3m).
I can go and on but the truth will still remain the truth,no matter how much we try to defend a lie!



Http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/salman-rushdie