₦airaland Forum

wonlasewonimi:
For the first since I moved to this country over 20 year's ago, I voted. I was looking out for mc oluomo by the entrance to the polling station. The mad man no show.

Oh wow. Clap clap clap.

I was in and out in 5 mins. No ballot box snatching. No police brutality. No military deployment . Voting in the UK is a breeze but the real mvps are people in Nigeria who troop out ,at great personal cost, to vote and defend their vote. I was soo proud of the Nigerian youths in the last election.

Polls are still open. 1 more hour to go

ReesheesuKnack:
The UK doesn’t do DNA test.
Pray, tell me how else you can prove that you are not just applying for any random mama to enter the UK.

Same way an Australian would. Take my word for it like literally everyone else. I did not attach a birth certificate, why did they take my word for it then?

I don't what it reeks of but it smells funny.

RefKing:
Hello,
My mother-in-law visa was refused, pls what changes can we effect and when can she reapply.

Thank you

Gosh. This is rubbish. I always thought attaching a birth certificate was overkill and attached none for my mother. I just sent a letter telling her about all the flower shows we will attend and all the woods we will explore.

From this refusal letter, she must have got in by luck.

Tell me why we need a birth certificate to prove my daughtership of my mother.

Any room for appeal? Bloody EOs ( forgive my French)

lavida001:
Sunak, Macron and Biden are going to lose in the coming elections.

1 certain, 2 likely, 3 maybe

Zahra29:
Someone is defensive this morning. I hope you don't take this same energy out knocking doors 😂

Tbh I seem to care more about its issues than you do. It started off as a curious question but you turned it into a battle point.

Sorry to have caused offence, I'll let you get on with your selective "resistance fighting".

Anyone on the doorsteps who dares to suggest that I m better suited campaigning for issues in Nigeria than here in the UK will immediately get both barrels.

I ll take up any cause I see fit,in any corner of the earth I like. I need not have campaigned for anything previously either. It's the Resistance. Everyone's welcome

Zahra29:
Err, of course it absolutely matters. You do have a remarkable talent for missing the point, no matter how evident it is 😂

It is ridiculous to suggest that you need to have lived in a country inorder to care about its issues and seek to improve it.
I can think of dozens of campaigners who are doing exactly this.

Your time may be better spent doing this,I suggest, than making this rather frivolous point.

IridescentAge:
I went to uni with Lewis. Same college. He's a good lad. Nice guy IRL. Very genuine.

Very strange to watch him be so popular/prevalent.

Lol. He is absolutely brilliant 👏 👌

Kai her crying face is touching. Very heartbreaking.

Take heart my dear. Na only death no get reversal.

Is anyone else sort of hiding their face in both hands and peering in between their fingers at the goings on in France and US?

What if Marine Le Pen wins? I understand why macron called the elections but if brexit taught me anything,it's never call people's bluff. You ll always lose to the populists especially if they are racist and anti-immigration.
France and Germany are the pillars of the EU.what will become of the EU?

What in the world were those 6 US supreme court judges thinking?
Presidents are not kings and should not have immunity. They just validated an argument agent orange pulled out of his fundament.
Can Biden fight this election?

The only consolation is the centrist government we hope to vote in on Thursday .
Andrew Marr thinks that with the rest of Europe voting in freaking fascists, we will see an influx of business and cash as the only sane country in the mad mix.
That's my glimmer of hope.

Be vote ready

https://tacticalvote.co.uk/

Forgot to recommend a podcast "the news agents". By Emily maitlis, Jon sopel ,Lewis goodall.

Gosh,I absolutely love it. Do check it out on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast jedisco justwise

Zahra29:
Nope, and simply because I know little about Nigerian issues,causes,politics etc apart from what I hear from other people or read online like on this forum.

I may sometimes join in discussions but it's difficult to contribute when I don't have many facts or first hand experience. Personally I'd like the opportunity to do something tangible like sponsoring someone in genuine need, such as a child's education, rather than blabbing on about topics I know nought about.

I imagine that I would be more vocal/passionate/concerned about a place I had lived all my life, even if I moved away, which is why I was curious.

Have you never lived in Nigeria then? Not that it matters. You are still a Nigerian and can take up causes in Nigeria. I don't think the Foreign husbands of Nigerian women will turn their noses up at a campaign in their favour now, do you?

She can use whatever name she likes.
It's her name now too because she changed it.

There's something to be said for keeping your name after marriage.

Zahra29:
I fully agree and I'm not knocking growth or change.

I just think it a bit odd that considering how passionate you are when it comes to UK issues /policies, your resistance seems muted or non existent in contrast when blatant Nigerian issues or injustices are discussed on this thread.

In fairness, perhaps you're more vocal on other threads that I'm not aware of.

I still don't think it's a good point. I could ask the same question of you.
Zahra, Why are you not as passionate about Nigerian causes? Are you active on other threads that I do not know of?

BouharryArtikou:
If past postings on Nairaland are anything to go by, this person was almost the equivalent of the modern day Shylock.
But well, people can change sha.

Was I now? And postings in plural? Really?
I wonder what your contribution to that treasury bills thread was? I mean , if I had the time to search your posts , will I find an opinion different than any you now hold?

Please post that screenshot again so everyone can see what we are referring to and what the "shylock " is? I was holding off buying a piece of land till it was a distress sale. That was the "shylock". Lol

Sorry ,dude, I have a fiduciary responsibility to my mother to get the most bang for her buck. I make no apologies for that.

Are you vote ready?

https://tacticalvote.co.uk/

Zahra29:
The "no" was in reference to your response that implies that you didn't/don't call out or campaign against the injustices in the Nigerian immigration system. Given how passionate you are when it comes to UK policies , I would have thought that you would have a similar record ,or at least concern, when you lived in Nigeria.

This is not a very good point , zahra.
What use is a mind if you can't change it?
People join the resistance at any age. Anyone is welcome to the resistance at anytime.

deept:
At what point should individuals be responsible for their choices? If tomorrow, I decide to be irresponsible, quit my job and not take care of my family and my kids go hungry and add to that statistic, is that the government's fault? Then you punish the people who sacrifice time, energy and other things by taxing them to take care of what is supposed to be my responsibility is that fair. as far as I know there are programs, internships and other initiatives to skill up citizens so they can be responsible to themselves and their families and if they do not take these opportunities, is it the government's fault?

What choices, the children had no hand in any of these. We can't let them starve to punish their parents. They have come in hungry to school this morning, they have to eat.

You are assuming their parents are "irresponsible " and do not work. That is not true.There are also children of working parents who are in this group due to low pay and high cost of living.

Zahra29:
The issues you are focusing on are important to you mainly because they impact you or relate to you.

Others have their own priorities that are important to them, whether its pension triple lock or inheritance tax or green issues.

Not really. I mean I m feeling the pinch but I still have a lot of give. However , my community is not okay so I can not be okay. I believe a society is only as prosperous as it's poorest citizens.
At the moment, the UK is wallowing in poverty. Preventable poverty. Rickets is coming back, children coming to school hungry. Teachers bringing sandwiches to school.

I cannot turn a blind eye to that and I have declared war on the party responsible.

Zahra29:
People's circumstances differ. Some people are better off (or at least not worse off) under the Tories. Pensioners as one example. They are a key voting bloc and are typically given special consideration/treatment in policy decisions.
That's why our esteemed Lexus is not joining the Tory bashing bandwagon

"I m alright, jack" . Could never be me.
That precious pension depends on freaking immigrants. Your homecare depends on immigrants. The NHS that you use heavily depends on immigrants . Just incase you think you are too rich for the NHS, critical care is not available on the private sector. Everyone ends up on the NHS if they are sick enough.

Turkeys and Christmas.

Zahra29:
Lol, answer is a "No" then.

It doesn't have to be. You fight ferociously enough whenever anyone impugns the NHS. Do Foreign husbands not matter?

( For the record , that policy is babash. The Nigerian Government never does anything right. Whose idea was that,even? Make it make sense,mtchew)

Zahra29:
How have you arrived at this conclusion?

Google. I used Google. Haven't been here for 14 years but I can tell my life is significantly worse than when I arrived. I do hate it when people pretend not to have noticed.

Zahra29:
Bonkers. Does this affect the birthright citizenship of a child born in this scenario to a Nigerian mother and non Nigerian father?

I have heard that the Nigerian visa is one of the most difficult to obtain. Even Bill Gates was previously denied, allegedly, on the grounds that he might overstay

@missjekyll, I hope you were/are as passionate about calling out the cruel, unequal and anti-immigrant policies in the Nigerian immigration system, and that your present passion isn't due to another UK-induced Damascene conversion.

I am going to leave that cause to you to fight, maam.

Lexusgs430:
Politicians would offer honey during campaigns..... After the election, they send the bee's to sting.....

I am far from alright, just slowly coasting along to my retirement........😁😜

So just give up hope then. Sit like a numpty on Thursday and let the tories win.

Well , I don't back down. I m going out on Thursday and sending the tories a message. In my area, I ll be voting for Labour because they have the best chance.

Check here to see who is the best chance for your area.
https://tacticalvote.co.uk/

https://tacticalvote.co.uk/

Pop your ID in your workbag. It's time to choose your path for the next 5 years.
Choose wisely . Vote tactically to kick the tories out. They do not deserve to lead this country. Follow who know road

Lexusgs430:
Remain optimistic, but not deluded......😂

Remember who sold all gold reserves, United Kingdom had in their vaults .......😜

Gordon Brown was a lot of things but hardly omniscient. He did make some bad calls but on every freaking parameter except poverty and hunger, we were better off in 2010 than we are now.

You know this Lexus. This is not the time for sitting on the freaking fence. Get off the fence and take a stand .
Don't be an "I'm alright,jack".

ehizario2012:
Guys, what's this thing about Labour controlled councils and boroughs being bankrupt? Is Labour really the best? What I'm reading online is confusing... They not looking like the angels I thought them to be.

Kent County Council(Conservative for decades if not centuries) is near bankruptcy as are nearly all councils up and down the country. Being given less and less money while having to provide more and more services will do that to you,as it happens.
The councils were told to fund themselves by westminster. They took on investments, some of which paid off,some did not.

Don't let the tories muddy the waters with wales and labour councils blah blah blah. They own this 14 yrs of utter failure. No
one else.
I intend to consign them to the dustbin of history when I vote in 3 days time. Please join me. Vote tactically .

Religion ,to those who believe,is serious business. I certainly wouldn't choose this
for a natter after church.

He had absolutely no idea about his lifestory . His future emigration plans or lack thereof is none of his business, frankly. This question makes people feel like visitors especially as he asked when not even if .
I would strongly suggest taking this off your list of small talk topics.

Goodenoch:
In a church, they should avoid religion, abi?

The pastor might just have been asking from the perspective of wanting to understand the new member's outlook - will they be here for a long time or are they say, students, who'll be here for a short period? There are myriad reasons why he might have genuinely enquired, without any of the malice you're insinuating, but now you're saying sorry to this person as if the question dealt him serious emotional damage.

It's somehow amusing but also sad to watch snowflakes in action. People literally walk around looking for things to be offended by nowadays.

This just out.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/30/the-baby-bust-how-britains-falling-birthrate-is-creating-alarm-in-the-economy?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

babajeje123:
To say this least I felt bad when he left. I nearly even left the church but for other members who came to say hello and made me a bit more comfortable.

Complain or go have a friendly chat with him to tell him thats not okay. Imagine arriving at a your friends house and the first thing is when are you leaving? Not welcoming at all.

babajeje123:
Went to a church last Sunday for the first time and that was the stupid question their pastor asked me after greetings.
Him: bla bla bla, when are you going back to Nigeria?
Me: (snaps) I don't know
A black British for that matter! Probably was privileged to be born here by black immigrants.

What the heck is that? Small talk is tedious but you natter about the weather, food ,job. Avoid politics and religion. He should have known that. Sorry you had to go through that.

Zahra29:
Why not bring them on one of the >400 occupation codes that allow an unlimited number of dependants though? Why focus on the only 2 codes that have banned dependants?

What use is 400 if the only 2 I have qualifications for do not let me bring my toddler with me?

I m not sure how this is relevant.
The UK should decide how many care visas it needs, stick to that and let families stay together. The current visa rules are cruel. Also the 2 child benefit cap.

IridescentAge:
I believe while this is true overall, not everyone is a beneficiary.



https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/#:~:text=Similarly%2C%20the%20MAC%20review%20concluded,others%20found%20positive%20average%20effects.

It also has a sizeable impact on house prices:



https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/8209.htm#:~:text=Immigration%20is%20one%20of%20many,there%20were%20zero%20net%20immigration.

Which somewhat explains why there's a fairly big disparity in opinion towards migration. If you have a home already and a well paying job. Great! Your income goes slightly up and your house price climbs.

If you're on the lower earning end of the spectrum and you rent then the result is marginally worse wages and more expensive housing/higher rents.

You do know low houseprices are not the only indicators of a prosperous nation.
The UK population would be falling if not for immigration. How would you fund pensions , infrastructure and services then?

Populations grow ,that's just what a healthy population does. Onus is on the government to plan ahead and provide infrastructure well ahead of projected growth.

We haven't seen that for decades in everywhere including with housebuilding targets. I do not accept any of the blame for the current housing crisis. I am laying it squarely where it belongs at the feet of the government.

ReesheesuKnack:
Honestly, I wonder what the UK will look like, if persons having this sort of thinking are allowed to run the country.

A 47 year old Mr’s A gets a CoS of sponsorship to be a Care worker in the UK (£22,000 pa max).
Mrs A has 5 children and 1 husband. The oldest child in SS1, the youngest in primary 2. Mrs A travels to the UK to work (as Care worker on a 22k salary). Mrs A does not pay IHS. Even Mrs A’s visa application fee is massively discounted.

The family of 7 arrives the UK. Mrs A is the only one working (on a 22k pa salary). Although the husband can work, he can’t, because of child care. All 5 children are enrolled in free school. All 6 dependants can access the NHS and other public services.

Any country that doesn’t see what the problem is, and curtail this is bound to fail.

Portraying this as some sort of ‘parents are forced away from their families’ is absolute bunkum!

If you have minor children and you are going abroad, you should be allowed to bring them with you,if you want to. Your children should not grow up without you , QED. Your partner is another able-bodied adult paying taxes to the state.

You have never made this argument for British immigrants to Nigeria.its cruel and unusual.

Zahra29:
The point is that many people choose to relocate without their family members, whether to the above mentioned countries or to the UK.

Choice. But that has been taken away now. Parents are forced away from their families. It's either leave them or starve.
What kind of choice is that?