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Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 12:25pm On Nov 07, 2009
On behalf of na2day?

na2day?:
this is good too, listen y'all

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Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 12:18pm On Nov 07, 2009
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 11:59am On Nov 07, 2009
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.

-- Titus 3:5
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:13am On Nov 07, 2009
Let Him Hear
November 7, 2009

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." (Revelation 3:22)

This is the final exhortation in Christ's letters to His seven representative churches.  It is the seventh such exhortation, one addressed to each church, so must be unusually important.  The emphasis, obviously, is not merely hearing with the physical ear, but hearing with an obedient heart.

Such hearing is necessary first of all for saving faith, for "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).  Jesus said: "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life" (John 5:24).

In our day, however, probably more than in any previous age, there is a cacophony of voices of all kinds that are seeking listeners.  In fact, Jesus Himself cautioned: "Take heed what ye hear" (Mark 4:24).  There are multitudes of false teachers today--evolutionary humanists, religious liberals, "New Age" mystics, and others--all very articulate and often winsome, but speaking false doctrine.  "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20).

It is important not only to hear the right words, but also to hear the right way.  "Take heed therefore how ye hear," also said Jesus (Luke 8:18).  Even if we hear the pure Word of God, it will accomplish nothing of value in our lives unless we hear with due reverence.  "To this man will I look, even to him that . . . trembleth at my word" (Isaiah 66:2).  And we must also hear with faith.  "For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it" (Hebrews 4:2).  He that hath an ear, therefore, let him hear with reverent faith the true Word of God. HMM
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:56am On Nov 07, 2009
This what Paige Patterson stated about the unique words of Jesus in John 14:6:

"It comes down to a question of truth.  Every false religious expression is a religion of darkness.  That doesn't mean there are no good things in that faith.  But if Jesus is to be taken seriously when He says, 'No one comes to the Father but through Me', every other proposal is one of darkness."

I cannot say it any better than this.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:22am On Nov 07, 2009
Abuzola:
This was what jesus said

,'Thou shalt worship the Lord, thy God, And Him only thou shalt serve' mathew 4:10
Jesus also said "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me." -- John 14:6

Do you believe this?  If you do then you are a believer.  Jesus is the One who said He is the only way to the Father and for any religious person to say that there are other ways to find peace with God is to bear false testimony.  In one sweeping statement, Jesus discards all other religions as a means of finding forgiveness of sins.  This agrees with other Scriptures.  "Neither is their salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" -- Acts 4;12, and "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:01am On Nov 07, 2009
Mister Osi:
Christianity is not the only religion in the world but is the truth and is the ONLY religion that will save you.
"Then you will know the truth,and the truth will set you free." -John 8:32
For those who are lost and for those that believe that Jesus Christ is not way to Kingdom of Heaven.
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Very well said. I only hope all the religious people would realise the highlighted words above.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 9:58am On Nov 07, 2009
@tony13,

Please tell grace5 to log on to the site if she is available.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 9:53am On Nov 07, 2009
Henrygirl:
@Modupe01

Thanks for the video! It uplifted my soul and mind! The music gives one the feeling of being victorious, or is it just me? grin
He has not only saved us spirit and soul, but this our vile bodies will be changed and we shall have the glorious body that the Lord now has.  We are surely more than conquerors through Jesus Christ who gave us the victory.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 9:36am On Nov 07, 2009
On behalf of tourmaline:

tourmaline:
27:1
The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

27:2
When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

27:3
Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident.

27:4
One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.

27:5
For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.

27:6
And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD.

27:7
Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice: have mercy also upon me, and answer me.

27:8
When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.

27:9
Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation.

27:10
When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

27:11
Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies.

27:12
Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty.

27:13
I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living.

27:14
Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
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This scripture has been ministering to me lately and i find out i enjoy worshipping God in my dialect more than in english language

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Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 12:15pm On Nov 06, 2009
The Trumpet shall Sound!

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Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:41am On Nov 06, 2009
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  -- 1 Corinthians 15:52

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Christianity EtcRe: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 11:28am On Nov 06, 2009
For the time will come when they wil not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away theirr ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

-- 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 11:28am On Nov 06, 2009
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

-- 2 Timothy 4:2
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by modupe01: 11:11am On Nov 06, 2009
Marlbron:
I am familiar with the verse above and you are correct, he showed them his glory in the kingdom in a vision after 6 days. But his 2nd coming is what we are talking about here, see the topic.
Many skeptics have miscontrued what Jesus said in Matt. 16:28 to mean that He was talking of his second coming but my point is that what He predicted was the demonstration of His second coming as was revealed in the transfiguration about 8 days after, and that Peter, James and John were the ones He was referring to as being eyewitnessess to this event.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:35am On Nov 06, 2009
When He Comes
November 6, 2009

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

When He comes our glorious King,
All His ransomed home to bring,
Then anew this song we'll sing;
Hallelujah, what a Saviour
!


The sacrificed, risen, and exalted Christ will one day return in glorious victory to the earth. The King of creation will restore His creation to its original created intent, and reign over it in majesty: "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever" (Revelation 11:15).

Furthermore, as we see in the text above, we shall be with Him, whether alive or dead, when He returns and reigns--a cause of much rejoicing and singing throughout eternity. "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy . . . for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth" (Revelation 5:9-10).

Through His mighty work of redemption, we have been ransomed out of slavery to sin. Our sins have been washed away, we have been clothed in His righteousness, and made fit to live forever with Him as His bride. "Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready" (Revelation 19:6-7). Hallelujah, what a Saviour! JDM
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by modupe01: 1:41pm On Nov 05, 2009
Marlbron:
I will be surprised if he has not yet come. He said this generation shall not pass away before all these things are fulfilled. We are now 2009 years after that statement. If he has not come, then either the Bible is wrong, or he he is lying. I 'll wager he is here with us, though may not answer Jesus.
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom". -- Matthew 16:28

This literally happened in the verses below.  About 8 days that Jesus prophesied his transfiguration.  It happened in the presence of three disciples.  That they would see Him as He would be in the Kingdom of God.

"And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light." -- Matthew 17:1-2

Read what Apostle Peter had to say afterwards about this experience on the mount of transfiguration.

"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.  For He received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleasedAnd this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with Him in the holy mount." -- 2 Peter 1:16-18

Apostle Peter was here declaring that he and other two disciples heard God's voice and saw the glory of God and the appearance of Moses and Elijah, that is, the transfiguration that Jesus had earlier predicted would happen, which was an actual demonstration of Christ coming in His glory to earth to set up His Kingdom.  (see 16:27-28; 17:1-8; 24:29-31; 25:31-46; Rev.19:11-21).
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 12:24pm On Nov 05, 2009
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

-- 2 Timothy 3:16-17


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Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 12:02pm On Nov 05, 2009
Henrygirl:
Thank you Modupe01 for posting the video for me. You and Olaadegbu save me each time. I really appreciate that. cheesy grin
Don't mention. What are we brethren for if we cannot help one another in times like these. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:42am On Nov 05, 2009
On behalf of OLAADEGBU

It is Finished!
November 5, 2009

"As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:14-15)

Lifted up was He to die,
"It is finished" was His cry;
Now in heav'n exalted high:
Hallelujah, what a Saviour
!


The people of Israel many times rejected God's plan and ways.  Once their complaining brought deadly serpents into the camp as a judgment of God (Numbers 21:5-7).  In response to Moses' intercessory prayer, God said: "Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and . . . every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live" (v. cool.

This episode provides a clear illustration of our sinfulness and God's remedy.  As in our text, those who look upon the cross of Christ with the eyes of faith, believing that His death provides a glorious remedy for our sin-wracked souls, will not only "live," but will have "eternal life."

While on that "pole," Almighty God died as "the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" (1 John 2:2).  This infinitely difficult work had been initiated at the time when sin first entered into and thereby spoiled creation (Genesis 3).  And as He completed His sacrifice, He cried out "with a loud voice" (Luke 23:46) the awesome victory cry: "It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost" (John 19:30).

But death does not end the story, for the grave could not hold the Creator of life.  He rose in victory over death and the grave, thereby conquering sin, its power and penalty forever, for "when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Hebrews 1:3).  Hallelujah, what a Saviour! JDM
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:23am On Nov 05, 2009
On behalf of Henrygirl:

Henrygirl:
I claim my Victory in Jesus to overcome and advance the Kingdom of God in my life and the world! Let us praise and dance before the Lord, doing warfare to tear down the barriers and bringing down the strongholds that hinder us!
Let us believe and dance like David did before our God for He is worthy and faithful to deliver us unto victorious Life in Him!

"Victory" by Tye Tribbett

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Lyrics:

(Verse 1)
I thought I lost, but actually I won
For by His blood we all have overcome
There is no failure, our God can never loose
And that same power, it now belongs to You

(Chorus)

Now it's time to celebrate all banners raised
(I've got the VICTORY, the VICTORY)
Because the devil is defeated and God be praised
(I've got the VICTORY, the VICTORY)
Every situation I face, I win
(I've got the VICTORY, the VICTORY)
And everything works for my good in the end
(I've got the VICTORY, the VICTORY)

(Verse 2)

I was on my way to a burning hell
The devil, he had my life set up to fail
But thanks be to my God who causes me to triumph, overcome, tread upon the enemy
(Chorus)

(Verse 3)

Somebody who's listening right now You think You're losing
You feel like You can't win 'cause You tried everything
Greater is He that is within You don't doubt
'Cause whatever You're in now, God says
You have to come out

(Chorus)
Christianity EtcRe: God Speaks Through His Spirit (tell Yours) by modupe01: 11:06pm On Nov 04, 2009
Do the First Part First


My children, I love you with an everlasting love. I care for you,
and My Spirit is your assurance that My power will rest in and with
you.

Many of you truly have a zeal to do My will. I have noted it, and I
am pleased that you want to know Me in a deeper way. But you have
found that you occasionally encounter a stumbling block in your prayer
requests, and don't understand why your petitions seem to go
unanswered. You have forgotten that I, the Lord your God, will never
violate My Holy Word, nor its precepts and principles. For in these,
you will have the true authority to do exploits in the spirit realm.

I will never empower or give approval to a child of disobedience.

So when you are tempted, you claim the promise in My Word to 'resist
the devil and he will flee.' But when you succumb to the temptation
anyway, you grieve in agony and shed a multitude of tears because
of your failure amidst the test. In that case, you have entered the
battle without your armor.

Prior to the trial, you forgot that the first part of the promise
says: "Submit yourselves therefore to God." That, My be loved, is
the first part. It is only after doing the first part that you can
claim and appropriate the second part: ", resist the devil and he
will flee from you."

When you desire something or want a situation to turn around, you
claim the promise in My Word to ", ask what you will and it shall
be done unto you." Yet, when your desire falls short, you withdraw
in disappointment, or dismiss it altogether that it must have not
been My will to make it happen. My dear child, I say unto you, do
the first part: "If you abide in Me and My words abide in you, "

The key is your abiding in Me. As you walk with Me, I will share deep
and rich secrets that the world cannot receive. You cannot walk
contrary to My Holy Word and yet expect the same anointing and
blessing to abide with you. But if you yield unto Me, and die to that
rebellious self-serving tendency of the flesh, you will open the door
to a new dimension of faith that I, the Lord your God, will have
manifest in your life.

Remember that I love you. And whosoever I love, I correct and chasten.
If you allow my correction to take hold, then afterwards it shall
yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness in your life.

-- grace5
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:03pm On Nov 04, 2009
Do the First Part First


My children, I love you with an everlasting love. I care for you,
and My Spirit is your assurance that My power will rest in and with
you.

Many of you truly have a zeal to do My will. I have noted it, and I
am pleased that you want to know Me in a deeper way. But you have
found that you occasionally encounter a stumbling block in your prayer
requests, and don't understand why your petitions seem to go
unanswered. You have forgotten that I, the Lord your God, will never
violate My Holy Word, nor its precepts and principles. For in these,
you will have the true authority to do exploits in the spirit realm.

I will never empower or give approval to a child of disobedience.

So when you are tempted, you claim the promise in My Word to 'resist
the devil and he will flee.' But when you succumb to the temptation
anyway, you grieve in agony and shed a multitude of tears because
of your failure amidst the test. In that case, you have entered the
battle without your armor.

Prior to the trial, you forgot that the first part of the promise
says: "Submit yourselves therefore to God." That, My be loved, is
the first part. It is only after doing the first part that you can
claim and appropriate the second part: ", resist the devil and he
will flee from you."

When you desire something or want a situation to turn around, you
claim the promise in My Word to ", ask what you will and it shall
be done unto you." Yet, when your desire falls short, you withdraw
in disappointment, or dismiss it altogether that it must have not
been My will to make it happen. My dear child, I say unto you, do
the first part: "If you abide in Me and My words abide in you, "

The key is your abiding in Me. As you walk with Me, I will share deep
and rich secrets that the world cannot receive. You cannot walk
contrary to My Holy Word and yet expect the same anointing and
blessing to abide with you. But if you yield unto Me, and die to that
rebellious self-serving tendency of the flesh, you will open the door
to a new dimension of faith that I, the Lord your God, will have
manifest in your life.

Remember that I love you. And whosoever I love, I correct and chasten.
If you allow my correction to take hold, then afterwards it shall
yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness in your life.

-- grace5
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:59pm On Nov 04, 2009
Quote from grace5

I AM the Lord.

As I brought Israel out of the house of bondage, so I have freed you.

Walk in My freedom.

Do not allow other voices to convince you that you are still bound.

You are My child; all the benefits of My household are yours.

The blood of My Son has purchased you.? You are Mine forever!

Come close and let Me pour My life into you.

Hold your head high as you walk through this world - in it but not of it.

You are a child of the King!? Your destiny is glorious.

As you walk in the truth of who you are in Me, My glory will increase in this earth.

My kingdom will advance; you will bear My likeness.

Many will be changed by My glory in you.?

You are My light in a dark place.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:55pm On Nov 04, 2009
On behalf of grace5

I Am Teaching You To War

Child of Mine, shake off the things that hinder you and hold you back.
For I say to you that My plans and purposes for you are for you to
overcome and walk in My victory. Know that My victory is not always
the easiest path, for I am training you to war, that you may become
an overcomer.

I am training you to walk in faith and I am training you to trust in
Me. This means I have to put you into trust-producing situations, where
you cannot resolve the situation from your own resources. Watch how I
will come through for you. Do not worry and do not fret. Simply know that
I am faithful and I am able.

I am your deliverer, and just as I delivered the people of Israel from
the bondage of Egypt, so will I bring you into a place of victory in
your own situation. Yes, My deliverance may be slower at times than you
like, but it is dependable and it will surely come. Yes, you may be
asked to "gather straw to make your own bricks" as I work My deliverance
in your situation. In other words, things may appear to get worse
before they get better. Do NOT fret when this occurs. Know that I
am with you and I will lift you up and I will bring you to that land
flowing with milk and honey. I will cause you to possess the land and
I will deliver victory into your hands, for I am able and I am ever with
you and I am mighty on your behalf.

Yes, I am teaching you to war and yes, I am teaching you to overcome. My
plans for you are good. My victory is sweet and My promises are true.
Do not grow faint, do not loose heart. Do not look to your circumstances,
but looke to Me, your rock and your deliverer. I am with you and none of
the plans of the enemy against you shall prevail. Keep your eyes fixed
on Me. Be attentive to My voice and My leading. Be quick to obey what
I command. I will empower you and I will make you an overcomer as you
watch Me and do what I am doing in My timing and at My direction.

Shout with joy, child of Mine, for your victory is at hand. I will teach
you to war effectively and I will lead you into the victory. I will
restore your strenght and your ferver so that you are able to take the
land I have given you. I have called you to victory, I have destined you
as an overcomer, and I will deliver your enemy into your hand. You will
enjoy the spoils of victory and all that you have lost shall be restored to
you many times. This is My plan and My purpose for you.

So gird up your lions, restore your strength and hope in Me. For I will
bring it to pass and I will fight with you on your behalf and I will thrust
you into the place of victory. This is My destiny for you. I have ordained
you to be an overcomer through My power and My anointing. Rise up child
of Mine, and learn to war. For as you fight at My direction, I shall give
you the victory.
Christianity EtcRe: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 10:46pm On Nov 04, 2009
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are His.  And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity .

-- 2 Timothy 2:19


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Christianity EtcRe: Why Christians Ignorantly Oppose The Theory Of Evolution by modupe01: 10:03pm On Nov 04, 2009
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Quote from: modupe01 on Yesterday at 12:50:09 PM
I guess that you are still in the realm of belief rather than knowledge (my guess is as good as yours).   I accept the fact that you believe that God wrote the decalogue with His own finger, according to Scriptures.  Let's see what He wrote in Exodus 20:11 and see how we can understand what He meant:

"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.  Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

Can you now see the Scripture that was inscribed by God Almighty Himself?  He did not leave it open to human interpretation, no?.
Lol, modupe01. .  maybe He did not leave it open to human interpretation; but I would rather that He Himself would have us both interpret and understand what He meant by what He gave us. If that were not so, then other scribes and prophets would not have tried to explain anything from the law to others in order to make them understand anything - Ezra and Nehemiah come to mind as an example:
It will be interesting knowing what our Lord Jesus Christ has to say about what Moses wrote or said.  Jesus consistently treated the miracle accounts of the OT as straightforward, truthful, historical accounts such as the creation of Adam, Noah and the Flood, Lot and his wife in Sodom, Moses and the manna, and Jonah in the fish.  He continually affirmed the authority of Scripture over men's ideas and traditions (Matthew 15:1-9).  In Mark 10:6 we have the clearest (amongst others) affirmation showing that Jesus was a young earth creationist.  He teaches that Adam and Eve were made at the "beginning of creation," not billions of years after the beginning, as would be the case if the universe were really billions of years old.  So, if Jesus was a young earth creationist, then how can His faithful followers have any other view? undecided

Nehemiah 8:8 -
They read from the book, from the Law of God, clearly,
and they gave the sense, so that the people understood the reading.

Surely, "gave the sense" would remind us of the fact that those who read were trying to interpret the reading, not so?
If we are prepared to let the words of the language speak to us in accord with the context and normal definitions, without being influenced by outside ideas, then the word for "day" found in Genesis 1 which is qualified by a number, the phrase "evening and morning" and for Day 1 the words "light and darkness" which obviously means an ordinary day (approximately 24 hrs).

During Martin Luther's era, some of church fathers were saying that God created everything in only one day or an instant, which is the other extreme of what some people are saying today.  This is what he said in response to them:

"When Moses writes that God created Heaven and Earth and whatever is in them in six days, then let this period continue to have been done in six days, and do not venture to devise any comment according to which six days were one day.  But, if you cannot understand how this could have been done in six days, then grant the Holy Spirit the honour of being more learned than you are.  For you are to deal with Scripture in such a way that you bear in mind that God Himself says what is written.  But since God is speaking, it is not fitting for you wantonly to turn His Word in the direction you wish to go. "

This I believe raps up what is going on today on the other extreme of billions of years.

Now, back to your inquiry proper:
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Let's see what He wrote in Exodus 20:11 and see how we can understand what He meant:

"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.  Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

Can you now see the Scripture that was inscribed by God Almighty Himself?
Yes, I can see that; and I don't think that contradicts with what I hinted at earlier. This was what I stated:

        "I contend that the Bible does not teach that God "created" the planet in 6 days."

But does Exodus 20:11 teach the opposite to my assertion and lead us to think that God created the planet in 6 days? No. here's how.

(a) In Genesis 1:1, God had already created the heavens and the earth.

(b) Then in Gen. 1:2, there was an epoch that is not defined, where the earth became void.

(c)  but according to Isaiah 45:18, God did not create the earth in the state of being "void" - something had occurred between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 to make the earth "become" void.

(d) so, between both verses, there are distinctly two periods that can be understood there:
       * the period where the heavens and the earth were already created
       * the period after the initial creation, where all things were made.
Genesis 1:2 reads "And the earth was without form, and void"

This reads that the earth was and not became as the Gappists translate it to mean.  At stake is the translation of the Hebrew word hayetah, which is a form of Hebrew verb, hayah, meaning "to be."  The meaning of a word is controlled by its context, and verse 2 is sequential to verse 1.  Therefore "was" is the most natural and appropriate translation for hayetah.  It is rendered this way in most English versions as well as the Septuagint.  In Genesis 1:2 hayetah is not followed by the proposition le, which would have removed any ambiguity in the Hebrew and required the translation "became."  Therefore, the correct reading is: "And the earth was formless and void . . ."

Let us consider Exodus 31:12 and see what God commanded Moses to say to the children of Israel:

"Six days may work be done, but on the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord.  Whoever does any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.  Therefore the sons of Israel shall keep the Sabbath throughout their generations, for an everlasting covenant.  It is a sign between me and the sons of Israel forever.  For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed" -- Exodus 15-17

Then God gave Moses two tablets of stone upon which were written the commandments of God, written by the finger of God (Exodus 31:18).

If we are observant enough we would realise that the seven-day week that we use today has no basis outside of Scripture.  If you know of any nation that uses more or less than the seven day week can you please bring it to my attention?  In this OT passage, God commands His people, Israel, to work for six days and rest for one, thus giving us a reason why He deliberately took as long as six days to create everything.  He set an example for man.  This is why our week is patterned after this principle.  And you were right by saying that it was a command to the Israelites and a principle to us today.  Now if you are to be consistent and project your interpretation of billion of years by saying that God created everything in six thousand/million/billion years, followed by a rest of one thousand or million or billion years, then we would have an interesting week indeed. shocked

(e) the Bible uses both these words and several others (eg., create, make, form, renew) to show that they are not referring to the same things in the same periods; these words are also different in the Hebrew language.

(f) the differences in the words are these:

                 *  create    -     בּרא   (bara')

                 *  make      -    עשׂה   (‛aśah)

                 *  form       -     יצר    (yatsar)

                 *  renew    -    חדשׁ   (chadash)


(g)  in some verses, we see how they are used differently, like in -

           *  God himself that formed the earth and made it  - Isaiah 45:18

           *   thou renewest the face of the earth  - Psalm 104:30

(h) so, while in Genesis 1:1, we read that God created the heavens and the earth, we also see that there are other verses where He speaks about having made, formed and renewed the earth.
It is generally acknowledged that the Hebrew word as you said, bara, used with "God" as its subject, which means to create like in the production of things which did not exist before.

However, according to Exodus 20:11, God "made" (asah) the heavens and the earth and everything in them in six days.  If God made everything in six days, then there is clearly no room for a gap.  I know that you allege that asah does not mean to "create," but "to form" or even "re-form" and that you believe that it refers to reforming a ruined world.  But is there such a difference between bara and asah in biblical usage?  I don't think so.  It (asah) can also mean "to create," which is the same as bara.  For example, Nehemiah 9:6 states that God made (asah) "heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth and everything on it, the seas and all that is in them."  This reference is obviously to the original ex nihilo (out of nothing) creation, but the word asah is used.  Do you want to tell me that Nehemiah 9:6 refers to the supposed reconstruction? if you do then you will have to include the geological strata in the reconstruction which will invariably deprive the whole theory of any power to explain away the fossil record.

The fact is that the words bara and asah are often used interchangeably in the OT and in some other places they are used in synonymous parallelism (Gen. 1:26-27; 2:4; Exodus 34:10; Isaiah 41:20; 43:7).  Applying this conclusion to Exodus 20:11; 31:17; and Nehemiah 9:6 we see that Scripture teaches that God created the universe (everything) in six days, as outlined in Genesis 1.

What about Exodus 20:11?

Please read that verse well, even as you quoted it:

         'in six days the LORD made the heavens and earth'

Here, Exodus was speaking of events that occured from Genesis 1:2 onwards, not from the initial epoch of creation in Genesis 1:1.  We don't know how long ago creation occured; but the Bible speaks about several epochs of what God did after the initial creation - that is why we read of His making and renewing the earth.

It is for this reason that even the orthodox Jews believe in 974 generations before Adam.
The most straightforward interpretation of Genesis 1:1-2 sees verse 1 as a subject-and-verb clause, with verse 2 containing three circumstantial clauses, that is, 3 statements that further describe the circumstances introduced by the principal clause in verse 1.  The grammatical connection between verses 1 and 2 rules out a time gap between the events in verse 1 and the events in verse 2.  Verse 2 is in fact a description of the state of the originally created earth: "And the earth was without form and void" (Genesis 1:2).
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by modupe01: 2:01pm On Nov 04, 2009
meine:
Will Jesus ever come back?

A 67 year old man told a young pastor preaching in a bus recently that "the phrase Jesus is coming soon is just a strategy to make christians behave themselves and that he has been hearing about the end of the world since the 1960's,"

That has got me thinking, whats your take on this?
"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water, perished." -- 2 Peter 3:3-6

These verses shows how fresher the word of God is than tomorrow's newspaper! See how it fulfills how peeps on this thread fit in to this prophecy. It also shows a common false assumption that many people make when they assume the earth today is the same as it has always been. Today's earth is 70% under water.

There are scriptural and scientific indications that the pre-flood world had greater air pressure, higher % of O2 and CO2, much more land above see level, less water on the earth's surface and a canopy of water to filter out the harmful effects of the sun.

Men will scoff and say that there was no such thing as the flood of Noah and that these signs have always been around. Their motivation for hating the truth will be their love of lust (2 Peter 2:1-7). The Scriptures tell us that they make one big mistake. Their understanding of God is erroneous. They think in their ignorance that God's continued silence means that He doesn't see their sins. In truth, He is merely holding back His wrath, waiting for them to repent and escape the damnation of hell.

Jesus warned that the sign to look for was the repossession of Jerusalem by the Jews. That happened in 1967, after 2,000 years, bringing into culmination all the signs of the times. Are you ready for His coming?
Christianity EtcRe: Are You All Ready For The Second Coming Of Jesus? by modupe01: 1:20pm On Nov 04, 2009
vocalist:
the bibles says that jesus will come back again in these sinful world, are you all prepared to meet him when he shall appear, or are u still swimming in the ocean of sin thinkin that the grace of god will save you on that day, please repent and be prepare.
Watch the fate of the wise and foolish virgins:

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Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:54am On Nov 04, 2009
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The Spotless Lamb of God
November 4, 2009

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, . . . But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot." (1 Peter 1:18-19)

Guilty, vile and helpless we,
Spotless Lamb of God was He;
Full atonement, can it be?
Hallelujah, what a Saviour
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Before God each individual stands as an absolutely guilty sinner.  "There is none righteous, no, not one" (Romans 3:10).  Being more "good" than "bad" doesn't help, "for whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all" (James 2:10).  "We are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags |literally 'used menstrual cloths'|" (Isaiah 64:6).  We are altogether vile and worthless.

Furthermore, we are powerless to change our situation.  Our sins demand the death penalty, "and without shedding of blood is no remission" (Hebrews 9:22).  Either the guilty party must die to pay sin's penalty, or a guiltless party must substitute and pay the penalty instead.  And so, "when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. . . . God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:6-cool.

This transaction removes our sin from us.  We now stand before a Holy God just as if we had never sinned, and just as if we had always done right, "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Romans 3:24).

"And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement" (Romans 5:11). Hallelujah, what a Saviour! JDM
Christianity EtcRe: Why Christians Ignorantly Oppose The Theory Of Evolution by modupe01: 12:50pm On Nov 03, 2009
viaro:
No, I do not know that. Rather, I believe He did so in light of what the Scripture teaches. wink
I guess that you are still in the realm of belief rather than knowledge (my guess is as good as yours). grin I accept the fact that you believe that God wrote the decalogue with His own finger, according to Scriptures. Let's see what He wrote in Exodus 20:11 and see how we can understand what He meant:

"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

Can you now see the Scripture that was inscribed by God Almighty Himself? He did not leave it open to human interpretation, no?.

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