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The Beginning Of The Creation

"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10:6).

These words of the Lord Jesus Christ ought to settle once and for all, for those who take His words seriously, the controversial question of the age of the earth.  The earth was created essentially at the same time, He said, as the creation of Adam and Eve.  Christ was quoting from Genesis 1:27: ". . . male and female created He them."  This greatest of God’s creative works was "from the beginning of the creation," not 18 billion years after the beginning of the creation, as modern old-earth advocates allege.

One can understand why atheists believe in evolution and an almost infinitely old universe, for they really have no other alternative.  One who believes in a personal God, on the other hand, only dishonours God if he believes such humanistic speculations rather than God’s word.  God is omniscient and omnipotent, as well as loving and merciful, and He would never do anything like this.  The great ages assumed by evolutionary geologists supposedly involved billions of years of suffering and dying by billions of animals before man ever evolved.  Surely this would have been the most inefficient, wasteful, and cruel method that ever could have been devised for "creating" human beings.  Since man’s creation was God’s main purpose, there is no conceivable reason why He would waste billions of years in such a meaningless charade as this before getting to the point.  In fact, the only reason He took six days instead of an instant of time was to serve as a pattern for man’s work week (Exodus 20:8–11).

In fact, the Lord Jesus Christ was not only a creationist, but was Himself the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16; etc.).  Therefore, He is the best possible witness as to when He created man and woman, and He said it was "from the beginning of the creation!" HMM

banom:
Thanks, Christianity is the religion i was born into, my major need is not actually a particular religion but a means to have a good relationship with God and i found i could do that in Christianity.

I praise God for your decision to denounce atheism and to become a born again Christian. Can you please tell us whether your decision is one of believing in the existence of God or actually being born again because there is a vast difference in the two. So my question is, are you born again or do you just believe in God? Your response will be much appreciated.

This is for you MrCrackles

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tiatma:
Of course I did . . . don't you trust I did?

What makes you think I didn't?

The verses are mere addendums to the clips (e.g.  . . . to keep . . . unspotted from the world etc)

Operative word there is the world (i.e. the world = system; in whatever capacity)

May God richly bless you for your love of His Word.  Spot on.

Abuzola 1:
Are you asking for isaac or what ?

Isaac is ishaq, who is essau


@modupe, don't u sleep, since morning you ve been busy preaching to me

So you muslims don't know who Esau was?  This was a grandson of Abraham that you all call Ibrahim, how could the Qur'an leave out such an important character?  Esau played a part in the progenitors of the arabs just as Ishmael whom you call Ismail.  Can any one tell me the arabic name of Esau?

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

-- James 4:17

Did you watch the clips?

kola oloye:
Hmnnnnnnnnnn,what then should i say again.
We have too many of Pharisees on this thread.

Hi kola,

It seems the muslims here don't know what they call Esau in the arabic language, can you help us decipher this conundrum.

olabowale:
@Modupe01: « #27 on: Yesterday at 02:52:41 PM » Esau the biblical brother of Jacob, the other son of Ibrahim, apart of Ismail and Isiaq, the sons of Yaqub, except Yusuf and all the daughters of these men, none of them was mentioned by name in the Quran! I can tell you that what you have in the Bible is not necessarily going to find the light of day i the Quran!

Like all the sexualities of Isaac, jacob's conning actions in the Bible, we do not have in the Quran!

All I can get from what you wrote above is that Esau is not written in the Qur'an, if you don't, what do you call it in the arabic language?

The Saints
November 30, 2009

"Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus." (Ephesians 1:1)

In the opening salutations to the churches at Rome, Corinth, Ephesus, Philippi, and Colosse, the apostle Paul addresses the "saints" in those churches—a term essentially synonymous (as in our text above) with "the faithful in Christ Jesus." The Greek word (hagios) is also translated even more frequently as "holy." Evidently "saints" are "those who are holy." For example, just three verses later Paul speaks thus of believers: "He hath chosen us in him |Christ| before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy |same word| and without blame before him in love" (v. 4).

This immediately raises an obvious question. Paul's rebukes to the "saints" in these churches (especially Corinth) certainly would indicate that the lives of many in them were anything but holy! How can sinners be called holy?

The answer to this problem must be, of course, in the fact that Christians are "saints in Christ Jesus" (Philippians 1:1), not necessarily saintly in behaviour. It is a wonderful truth that God deals with us, not in our sins, but in Christ. In His sight, we are even seated "together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus" (Ephesians 2:6).

We have surely been "blessed . . . with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ" (Ephesians 1:3), and it would surely please Him if we would seek to become as holy in our practice as in our position. "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God" (Romans 12:1-2). HMM

CrazyMan:
Where's the video

I guess clips would have been more appropriate. Here is another one.

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Abuzola 1:
Is that a NECO question ?

You know what I mean. Abraham = Ibrahim; Isaac = Isiaq? So tell me the equivalent of Esau, the twin brother of Jacob in your arabic if not in the Qur'an. And if you don't know the answer ask your folks to help you out.

Here are the only two religions that exists in the world.  Watch the video to find out which one you belong to.

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Food for thought

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noetic15:
the next conversion is going to be abuzola666

somebody say Amen. . . .

A big Amen!!!

Abuzola 1:
How do i know if u are going to use it against muslim

Are you scared or is it that you don't know?

Worthy is the Lamb of God that was slain!


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Abuzola 1:
You ve come here , welcome ma

Thank you jare.  I hope your people will be able to help you get the answer to the question you failed to answer or don't you guys name your children Esau?

@whoisallah,

That was a brilliant write-up there.  If only these people will open their eyes and see that The Lamb of God whom Abraham prophesied that God will provided himself a lamb was sacrificed on the very spot where Isaac was to be sacrificed.  Worthy is the Lamb!

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Abuzola 1:
You said ishmael was born before isaac.

Now tell me the arabic name for Esau if you know your onions.

This is what the Messiah did for you and me.

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To pay for our sin debts and make us free.

Abuzola 1:
Uplawal most of them are illiterate of arabic study, thats the true

What is the Arabic equivalent of Esau?

Can anyone tell me what muslims call Esau in the Arabic if it is not in the Qur'an?

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

-- James 4:7-8

Abuzola 1:
Modupe plz tell me

Are you now admitting that you don't know the equivalent of Esau in your Qur'an?

@banom,

Congrats but beware of the leaven of the Pharisees!

Abuzola 1:
Modupe what do you want to use the name for, sincerely tell me and i will tell you free of charge.

Why are you developing cold feet all of a sudden? Tell us and I will give my reasons for asking.

sokislam:
You are right Modupe, most Muslims are ignorant of their faith, they only accept dogmatism. That's why we need to enlighthen them,

This where they come unstuck, they have all dogmatically accepted that Jesus is the Isa of the Qur'an and when you ask them what do they then call Esau they begin to hide under their index fingers.

sokislam:
So if u know that Jesus died according to the Qur'an, what more evidence do u need. Why are u behaving confused.

Since he is asking for the evidence from the Bible I am happy to give him such evidence I will even tell him where it is written in the Qur'an but he has to tell me what the Qur'an calls Esau first of all.

Niyi53:
i need evidence. But know that while the quran declares that jesus is dead, it denys the belief that he died on the cross.

Give me the name of Esau in the Qur'an and I will give you the evidence of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection.  Deal?

Abuzola 1:
@modupe, go and google it and don't disturb me

Does the question disturb you?  So you don't like to be disturbed, have you read where it says in the Bible that "there is no peace/rest for the wicked?  Anyway, that's by the side.  Can you or any of your muslim bondmen tell us what you call Esau or is he non existent in your Qur'an?

The Sieve of Satan
November 29, 2009

"And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat." (Luke 22:31)

Most of us do not warrant the personal attention of Satan as Peter did, for we do not constitute as great a threat to his kingdom as Peter did. Nevertheless the devil, "as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Peter 5:. Whether he attacks us himself--as he did Peter, and David, and Job--or assigns this task to one or more of his demons, the fact is that Satan is real and his legions of evil spirits are real, and they will, indeed, seek to force every believer into Satan's sieve.

John calls Satan "the accuser of our brethren . . . which accused them before our God day and night" (Revelation 12:10). He uses every device to keep us from Christ, or to persuade us to sin against Him, or even to deny Him as Peter did. Jesus called Satan "a murderer from the beginning . . . a liar, and the father of it" (John 8:44). He seeks to sow discord among the brethren, to sow tares among the wheat, to sow false doctrine with the truth, to sow evil thoughts in the pure, to do all he can to hinder our work for God and our faith in Him. And, as Martin Luther sang: "On earth is not his equal."

Yes, but "we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins" (1 John 2:1-2). Furthermore, "he ever liveth to make intercession for them" (Hebrews 7:25).

The Lord assured Peter that, even though Satan would sift him as wheat, "I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not" (Luke 22:32). And when Jesus prays, God answers!

When we, like Peter, have been sifted through the sieve of Satan, and when we also know that our great advocate and intercessor has prayed for us and our faith has not failed, then we can, as the Lord exhorted Peter, "strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22:32). HMM