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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 2:48pm On Nov 21, 2009

The Truth behind Hip Hop Music -- Exministries

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 1:39pm On Nov 21, 2009

na2day?:
thanks, it never seem to work for my browser when i insert them in the flash tags

highlight the url below from the embed without the quotation marks, then cut and paste in between the flash tags. I hope I explained it well as I find it difficult to explain.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 1:32pm On Nov 21, 2009

Jay Z's subliminal message exposed

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 12:32pm On Nov 21, 2009

na2day?:
plz listen

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Christianity Etc › The Paul Washer's Project by modupe01(op): 12:28pm On Nov 21, 2009

The Paul Washer's Project

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:58am On Nov 21, 2009

Watch the Gospel of Jesus Christ as told by Paul Washer. Many of us who think that we are Christians are in for a shock.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:16am On Nov 21, 2009

God's Divine Detours
November 21, 2009

"And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the way of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return to Egypt: But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt." (Exodus 13:17-18)

No driver enjoys having to take a detour, but there is usually a very good reason for it, and we accept it with little question. A divinely prescribed detour in our personal goals, however, often becomes a focus of complaint and discouragement. Detours and delays of one sort or another occur in the life of every Christian, but they are always for good reason. Remember Christ taught that when we have "been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things" (Matthew 25:21). Trials and detours prepare us for greater responsibility and blessing.

The experience of the children of Israel is a prime example. What started as a detour of perhaps 100 miles developed into a delay of 40 years before they were actually prepared to enter the Promised Land. A mob of slaves--carnal and fearful, selfish and complaining, critical and greedy, worldly and idolatrous--somehow had to become a nation of responsible citizens--disciplined and courageous, industrious and law-abiding, God-fearing and spiritual. This transformation required time and chastening and miraculous guidance, but it was all for their ultimate good and for God’s glory.

What God does with His own is by definition right, and we’ll understand it better later on. "Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby" (Hebrews 12:11). HMM

Christianity Etc › Re: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 7:48pm On Nov 20, 2009

Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

-- Hebrews 13:5

Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 6:48pm On Nov 20, 2009

The Servant King by Graham Kendricks

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:49am On Nov 20, 2009

Slaves of Christ
November 20, 2009

"But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." (Romans 6:22)

There are several words translated "servants" in the New Testament, but the most common is doulos, as in our text, and its actual meaning is "bondservants," or "slaves." Its root meaning is to tie or bind and was commonly applied to the slaves in the Roman empire at the time of Christ.

The apostle Paul had reminded the Roman Christians that they were the slaves of sin (Romans 6:17) before they had been saved, having yielded their members "servants to uncleanness and to iniquity" (v. 19). In Christ, however, "being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness" (v. 18). Those who are slaves to sin will ultimately receive the wages of sin, which is death (v. 23), but the wages (or "fruit" wink

of righteousness is holiness and everlasting life, as Paul answers us in our text.

Thus it is not a burden, but a high privilege to "become slaves to God." Paul even called himself, though an apostle, a "slave of Jesus Christ" (Philippians 1:1; Titus 1:1; etc.), and so did James, Peter, Jude, and John (James 1:1; 2 Peter 1:1; Jude 1; Revelation 1:1). We are certainly no better than they, to say the least, so we also need to recognise that if we are genuine Christians, we are slaves of Christ. Since "ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men" (1 Corinthians 7:23), much less "slaves of sin," but of Christ.

This means, of course, that we belong to Him, and He has the right to do as He wills with His own. We have been "bought with a price" (1 Corinthians 6:20), and we owe Him full obedience. As a slave is expected to respond to the voice of his lord, so we must hear and obey His Word, without equivocation. "So now yield your members |slaves| to righteousness unto holiness" (Romans 6:19). HMM

Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 10:30am On Nov 20, 2009

na2day?:
i love this lady and its true about some of us

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Christians Ignorantly Oppose The Theory Of Evolution by modupe01: 6:47am On Nov 20, 2009

viaro:
It is possible for 'day and night' and 'evening and morning' to be taken as a literal 24hrs. However, that does not necessarily have to be the case - not because we are looking for excuses from outside influence to stretch the days and nights in Genesis 1 into eons and epochs.

That is what it appears to me, the fact that you are looking for excuses from outside influences to stretch the days and nights into billions of years.

viaro:
There are a few reasons why the time there (at least for me) does not necessarily refer to a 24hr time frame:

(1) Genesis 1 does not tell us anything about when certain things were created. It just mentions them and takes them for granted. An example? Water. You will not find any verse in that chapter telling you that God created water on any particular day. . count them: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th day - none! The 7th is not included because He rested on that day. Rather, it just takes it for granted from as early as verse 2 - " the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters".

When I read the Scripture that was inscribed by God Almighty, it tells me all that I need to know about how long it took Him to create the universe and earth. He said in Exodus 20:11 and I quote again; "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that is in them," This verse mentions the creation of the universe and all that is within it including the sun and seas.

viaro:
(2) Turning to the NT, the apostle Peter makes a remarkable statement in 2 Peter 3:5 --

'by the word of God the heavens were of old,
and the earth standing out of the water and in the water'

Notice, please: Peter was describing the primordial condition of the earth and noted that it was standing "out of" the water - and also "in" the water. Many people have assumed that Peter was describing a situation akin to the second day Genesis 1. However, it is strongly implying (to me, at least) that he was thinking more in terms of the primordial condition of the earth which Gen. 1:2 describes as "the face of the deep".

"And saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved to fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men"

Peter, here tells us that the scoffers in the last days will be willingly ignorant of how God created the heavens and the earth and that they will also be ignorant of Noah's Flood. Peter had no doubt of the Genesis account of Noah's Flood and he went on to warn us of the impending judgment. He said nothing of the premordial scum that evolutionists assume of today. You can now see that the gap theory does away with the evidence for the historical event of the global Flood.

viaro:
(3) To this end, would it be accurate to infer a 24hr period for the primordial condition of the earth? I don't think so - especially because no one knows just how long "the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" in Genesis 1:2 before light appeared in verse 3.

God left us in no doubt as to when, how, what and how long it took Him to create. He said in Psalm 33:6,9 "By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth. For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast"

viaro:
(4) Again, let us think a little deeper: we have noted the example of water as taken for granted in Genesis 1 - we are not told just when God created water in all those days (1st to 6th). Another example is the Sun - we are not told when the Sun was created. We know that many people read Psalm 136:7-9 take for granted that the greater light refers to 'the sun' and the lesser light refers to 'the moon' in Genesis 1:16 - but that is just conveniently plugging holes. The earlier verses from 3 and 14-15 of Genesis 1 already spoke about lights even before talking about the lesser light and greater light in verse 16!

I believe and affirm that Genesis chapter 1 is clear enough on what and when God created.

viaro:
(5) From the above, we see that there are certain elements taken for granted in Genesis 1 (such as water and the sun) - nobody knows when in all those days they were created. There is not a single verse in the entire Bible that tells us anything about the very day they were created.

If you read without the need to include the billion of years into Gen.1:2 you will see what am talking about.

viaro:
(6) Consequently, we understand that there are also so many other things described in the Bible that were already created and established, but which are not described in the epochs or 'days' in Genesis 1!

These are some very small matters to help us think when we form our thoughts about creation. The universe and the earth are far older than 6,000 years old - and all these I've shown without any outside influence like paleontology or archeology.

Many sincere Christians have invented reinterpretations of Scripture to avoid intellectual conflicts with popular scientific ideas. These theories are designed to fit in with scientific concepts that arose in the 1800s and are still popular today. I hope to come back with more reasons why this position cannot be sustainable in this day and age, even the evolutionists know that it doesn't add up.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Christians Ignorantly Oppose The Theory Of Evolution by modupe01: 3:12am On Nov 20, 2009

viaro:
@modupe01, thank you for your reply and observations. Very interesting, and I understand where you're coming from. I only wish that you had taken a closer look at the distinctions I made between those words - that is how Scripture declares them in those verses.

I also thank you for taking the time to painstakingly respond to some if not all of my objections. I have been expecting you to respond to the rest of my points or rather open another post to address them, hence my late posts.

viaro:
It is true and healthy that faithful followers of Jesus Christ should not be deviating from what He declared and affirmed. In that vein, I'm happy to note that my observations have not deviated from His, at least in so far as I read all the verses together for a coherent picture.

You are entitled to your own opinion on these matters I still believe that God did not leave it open for any private interpretation, the text and contexts speaks for itself.

viaro:
Now, Mark 10:6 is interesting (as is the synoptic in Matthew 19:4) - but do passages like that make Him a "YEC" - young earth creationist? No, I don't think so.

Let us see.

viaro:
(1) In the first place, we know that the complete picture of the thinking of our Lord Jesus Christ does not lead to the idea that He saw the earth as a young or recent creation of some 6,000 years old. When the phrase "in the beginning" is used in Scripture, it does not necessarily all point to a dating system beginning with the 'first day' - they are used differently.

If you read Mark 10:6-9 you will see the context in which Jesus was talking. He was quoting Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 respectively. By quoting from both chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis, Jesus shows that these chapters are not contradictory, as some may claim. Chapter 2 merely gives the details of chapter 1 just as Genesis 1:2 gives the description of Genesis 1:1. A sports comentator is not in error when (after a game) he gives in-depth analysis and fails to repeat every detail in chronological order. He is merely reviewing the completed game by mentioning the highlights.

viaro:
(2) If we look prophetically in Proverbs 8:23 (which many Christians believe is pointing to the prophetic declaration of Christ), we find that even the Lord Jesus Himself spoke about an age of existence long before even the earth was - and in that passage, He mentions "the beginning" as a time before the creation of the earth:

"I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was"

(3) That verse speaks about "the beginning" as a time when even the earth was not yet existing! Thus, we have to be very careful when we're talking about "the beginning" - it does not necessarily refer to the time when Adam was created - because even before Adam, life in biological forms in animate beings were clearly distinguished in male and female forms, which is not merely a matter of "man and woman".

This is a verse commonly quoted by the JW's when they claim that Jesus was "made" of the seed of David (that Jesus was a god "created by Jehovah" to die for our sins), they point to Proverbs 8:22-35 for their justification. However, the Bible is speaking here of the personification of "wisdom" (verse 12). Jesus had no beginning and He was not created but was begotten as the only begotten Son of God when He was incarnated 2,000 years ago.

viaro:
(4) When Jesus spoke of "the beginning" in such passages as Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4, he said 'male and female' - not 'man and woman'. I contend that He clearly was pointing out creation in broad terms rather than an idea presupposing a theory of YEC-ism.

If you read it in context and without any predetermined bias you will realise that Jesus was quoting Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 respectively as other animate living organisms do not marry.

viaro:
(5) Now, the point in (4) above might startle many of us Christians - but that is only if we have been thinking that the phrase "in the beginning" always refers to the creation that occurred within the time frame as interpreted to support YEC. That is not true - because if that were true, it would mean that even John 1:1 translates into an idea that the Divine Word was 6,000 years old! Afterall, that verse also mentions 'in the beginning' . . "in the beginning was the Word". Is that clause there ("in the beginning" also pointing to a YEC? Clearly not - rather, in harmony with Prov. 8:23, it was a "beginning" that was much, much earlier than our traditional YEC-6,000 years old!

The JW's also think that Jesus had a beginning when they translate that verse to mean that he was a god. They may refer to John 14:28 in which Jesus said, "I go to the Father: for my Father is greater than I," but they fail to show why Jesus said the Father was greater: "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,, that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man" (Hebrew 2:9). In Romans 1:3, the word used to refer to the incarnation ("made" wink

is ginomai, which means "assembled." A body was prepared for God to manifest Himself in the flesh;

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Timothy 3:16).

viaro:
(6) Another thing we have to understand: when Scripture speaks about the creation of the world including the earth, God does not set the date as recent as 6,000 old. Read Hebrews 1:6 where it is said that He "bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world" - when did this happen, modupe01? When the God bring in the firstbegotten into the world? The answer is in what follows - at the very time when He asked the angels to worship the Son! Do you know when that very thing happened? No, not after Adam was created - rather, there are some verses right in the Bible that shows that such a thing occured LONG BEFORE Adam was created! The point is that the world (including the earth) predates Adam such that there was a time when the Son of God Himself stepped into the mystery of the creation - "when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world".

With all these eisegesis we often end up with spurious interpretations that are not necessary. Jesus before His incarnation was the Second Person in the Godhead called the Word, it was during His incarnation that He became the only begotten Son of God and it was at this point that the Father in heaven commanded the angels to worship Him. This redemption plan was new to the angels and they would not have worshipped Him if the Father had not commanded them to. It was only God that we are to worship. Jesus Christ is God.

viaro:
(7) Now, maybe I would find the opportunity to open this subject in detail; but focusing on Mark 10:6, we should not confuse "male and female" for 'man and woman' - no. Even the animals also appear as 'male and female' without being human beings (see Gen. 7:16 - "male and female of all flesh". As such, Christ was laying down a cardinal truth: animate life in the flesh (including those that predated Adam and those that came after) were created in distinct sexes - "male and female".

Jesus was talking about male and female. Read what Jesus was quoting in Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created He them."

viaro:
From the foregoing, we see why the idea of a 6,000 year-old YEC theory is an assumption that caters for traditional interpretations of Scripture and is froth with many problems. The YE Creationist has to account for those verses that show that "in the beginning" is also a time epoch that is far older than 6,000 years - otherwise they would have to say that John 1:1 ('in the beginning') is also 6,000 years old! Can they gamble on that?

If these would help to stir your thinking, then I shall be back much later to share on other comments you made.

Cheers.

I believe that I have been able to point out that the Bible says what it means and means what it says without any foreign interpretation needed. With time I may be able to provide reasons these are so and why your standpoint is a dangerous stand to take.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Gospel Of Jesus Christ by modupe01(op): 2:10am On Nov 20, 2009

olabowale:
@mODUPE01:I got it, the reason am responding which you failed to even approach. Maybe i should have asked JeSoul. Aburo, she ongbo? I thought religions do not count and it will include Judaism, too. I am not interested in Heaven but Paradise. Heaven is where Hell and Paradise are located, while you are simply interested in it, you may just be admitted to the other while I am admitted to Paradise!

The highlighted above says it all. Your religion, which you tenaciously cling to says that your goal is paradise and not heaven. Heaven is not your goal. That is why I am challenging you to consider what Jesus came for since it is different from what your religion is presenting to you.

olabowale:
Christians will never make Paradise. They may make the other in Heaven!

Christians will never go to the paradise presented in your religion. We all have to enter through the narrow gate that leads to eternal life which is the life time of the never dying God. Any other road is what is called the broad way that millions of people find but it is the way that leads to eternal damnation.

olabowale:
Is the reason Jesus came to this cosmos earth, not in the Gospel he preached, just like the Torah that Moese preached telling us why he came to this cosmos earth, like the reason for Muhammad can be found in the Quran, therefore, did Jesus say that he was sent to the Yorubas or strictly to the Children of Israel, leading the lost among them back to the precept of Moses' laws, which prompted Jesus saying 'whosoever abrogates or asked anyone to abrogate shall be the least in the kingdom of heaven; hell'. I say your preacher in the video, if he says anything other than authentic words of Jesus, if you can get any, he is not to be believed.

This is the message:

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved" (John 3:16-17).

This shows that Salvation is possibe for every person because God Himself provided our way of escape.

"But God commended His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5: cool

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"For He has made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him" (2 Corinthians 5:21).

"But was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquities of us all" (Isaiah 53:5,6).

Christianity Etc › Re: This Is For Muslims, Jews Or Christians by modupe01(op): 1:16am On Nov 20, 2009

olabowale:
what does Islam has to do with croos? nothing.

What has Islam got to do with heaven, nothing?

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Gospel Of Jesus Christ by modupe01(op): 5:22pm On Nov 19, 2009

olabowale:
@poster; what are you saying? is your intention as the intention of the video piece speaker saying there are no true or just handful of christian, rather true christians alive? what then are the majority, christians only by name, destined for hell fire?

let me then pst these sets of questions to you and the author of the video and any christian who care to approach any or all;

1. what was the religion of jesus, if any relative to the religion or religions if not just one religion of john and his father zachariah, elijah,elisha, job, jonah, solomon, david, samuel, king saul, moses, aaron, joseph and his brothers and sisters, jacob, isaac, abraham and lot, noah, enoch, adam?

2. please calibrate their religion, or religion of each person if you thing they all did not have the same religion. name what you think they have and what jesus had, unless he had no religion.

3. if jesus did not have any religion, and moses had a religion, and that religion of moses is the same of father jacob who was neither a jew nor children of israel by ethnicity because both came after him, just like christian and christianity came after jesus, but if jacob had the same religion as his father isaac, grand father abraham, and human generations before these, noah, enoch, adam had the same religion, is that religion not something other than jew and christian?

4. what is the name of that religion, and is it still alive among man or completely dead, even practised by these noble man, especially abraham whom every so called monotheistic religion is claiming a source from?

5. if ths religion is alive name it and give us reason you say it is?

6. if the religion is dead, please give us the reason that none of the so called monotheisms is not it?

7. why would the Creator allow the ways of these men, especially His Friend, Abraham died and what is it replaced with?

8. to therefore be true christian which is christlike, should it not be inclusive of the religion and all instruction of jesus as you know it, a religion that one will take to be the religion of all the Godly men before him, especially Abraham, and definitely Moses whose law and way he practised and warned against any to abandoned it?

olabowale:
@modupe01 (m); « #6 on: Today at 02:51:18 PM » i at least appreciate you, since you stay away from my questions of trying to define jesus. your silence tells me that you dont know. why should i belief the direction you are steering me, shouldnt you be asking these pundits to help you concerning my questions?

You still don't get it. Your religion or theirs doesn't count. The question all religious folks need to answer is why would you be admitted to heaven? If Christians would barely make it you need to ask yourself what chance do you have in making it. The video below answers these questions and also corrects the misconceptions that a lot of religious people have about the reason Jesus came to this cosmos earth.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is For Muslims, Jews Or Christians by modupe01(op): 3:28pm On Nov 19, 2009

This video highlights the solution to this dilema.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Christians Ignorantly Oppose The Theory Of Evolution by modupe01: 3:20pm On Nov 19, 2009

Instant Creation

"Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together." (Isaiah 48:13)

This is one of many passages in Scripture which not only tells us that God is Creator of both heaven and earth, but also that He created them instantaneously. Creation is not a "process," but a miraculous event! With a wave of the hand, so to speak, God simply called them into being.

This is also the testimony of the incomparable account of creation in Genesis. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). This primeval testimony does not say: "From the beginning, God has been creating heaven and earth" as theistic evolutionists would say. Creation of all things was an event completed in the past.

The divinely inspired psalmist agrees: "By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. . . . For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast" (Psalm 33:6, 9). "For he commanded, and they were created. He hath also stablished them for ever and ever" (Psalm 148:5-6).

Furthermore, according to our text, when God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth, they both proceeded to "stand up together!" He did not create the heavens 15 billion years ago, then the earth only about five billion years ago, as some creationists allege. They stood up together! "In six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is" (Exodus 20:11).

It is important to recognise the recent creation of all things, not only because God said so, but also because the multi-billion-year framework of cosmic evolution, pushing God as far away and long ago as possible, is merely the modern pseudoscientific way of getting rid of Him altogether! Christians should not compromise with such a system! HMM

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Gnostic Christian On Nairaland? by modupe01: 3:08pm On Nov 19, 2009

Deep Sight:
^^^ ANSWER HIM NOW, NOETIC!

And also explain why the words in KJV 1 Jn 5 v 7 have been expunged from all modern versions of the Bible!

Explain!

Check your Bible versions and you will find out that 1 John 5:7 has not been expunged from all modern versions of the Bible. Most versions say that there are three that bear witness about Jesus while a few others went on to specify those that bear this witness in heaven as the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit; These versions apart from the KJV are modern ones such as the New King James version, the Amplified Bible, Young's Literal Translation, the Wycliffe New Testament, the 21st Century King James Version.

Even though you may not find the word Trinity in the KJV neither can you find the word Grandfather in it, does that imply that there are no grandfathers in the Bible? Read the Bible with an open mind and don't allow outside influences do your interpretation for you.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Gospel Of Jesus Christ by modupe01(op): 2:51pm On Nov 19, 2009

@olabowale and KunleOshob,

The message of Jesus Christ is to enter the narrow gate. Watch and listen to the narration in the video below by John MacArthur:

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Gnostic Christian On Nairaland? by modupe01: 2:45pm On Nov 19, 2009

KunleOshob:
@Noetic
Within the context of your belief in the inerrancy of the bible as a whole how do you reconcile the following verses?

Jeremiah 8:8:

8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise because we have the word of the Lord,”
when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?
New Living Translation (NLT)

Jeremiah 8:8:
8How can you say, We are wise, and we have the written law of the Lord [and are learned in its language and teachings]? Behold, the truth is, the lying pen of the scribes has made of the law a falsehood (a mere code of ceremonial observances).
Amplified Bible (AMP)

You might need to read the chapter from the beginning for clearer understanding.

"How do you say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain" (Jeremiah 8: cool

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The Jews here prided themselves on being the wisest nation on earth because they had the law, but from God's perspective this was all vain, and the multiplication of copies by the pen of the scribes was also in vain if they would not obey it or profit by it.

If you read it in context (verses 1-12) you will find out that the key to consume the Word of God is to meditate on it, digest it and let it become part of us. The Bible is a supernatural book. It can give us supernatural energy to do the will of God (see Nehemiah 8:1-12). Too many so called Christians fail to read the Bible every day. They find time to feed their stomach each day, but refuse to make time to read God's Word. Don't let your belly take precedence over reading the Bible. Forget your food rather than forget the Word of God (see Exodus 34:28). Have the policy of No Bible No Breakfast (NBNB); or No Scripture No Supper (NSNS) and by so doing you will find out that the Bible contains all that you need and that all other ground is sinking sand.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Gospel Of Jesus Christ by modupe01(op): 2:04pm On Nov 19, 2009

@ olabowale,

Jesus did not bring religion as we are capable of doing that by ourselves. Watch what He brought in the video below and avail yourself of this wonderful privilege.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 1:58pm On Nov 19, 2009

Analytical:
Springing to my lips immediately is this timeless hymn:

1. Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!
Refrain:
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.

2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
(Refrain)

3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
(Refrain)

4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
but the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
(Refrain)

5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud, and honor unto Christ the King,
this through countless ages men and angels sing.
(Refrain)

So apt! Just imagine the words of this hymn! Thank you Lord.

This hymn makes much more meaning to me today than when I use to sing it before my conversion. I can now hear the battle cry: "Onward Christian soldiers!"

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Gospel Of Jesus Christ by modupe01(op): 12:49pm On Nov 19, 2009

And then this . . .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Abuzola Should Emulate Olabowale; Davidylan Should Emulate Olaadegbu by modupe01: 12:44pm On Nov 19, 2009

Tudór:
Na wa oo!

This is what it is all about.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Im Tired Of Clapping My Hands In Church. by modupe01: 12:34pm On Nov 19, 2009

alex0026:
You seem to be mentally asleep and i feel so sorry for you 'cos you don't understand who you are and the stuff you are made up of and funny enough you have deliberately handed yourself to substandard,lesser human beings than you mentally and that is the reason why you are not happy.

In a nut shell,you need to discover yourself first.That is the beginning of true happiness and i tell you then you will be responsible for your decisions whether to clap or not.

Finally your existence has got nothing to do with ANYBODY except yourself.Stop bugging your mind with uncertainties and an invincible being as you are made to believe who is responsible for your existence.

The invincible you don't see and will never see,feel,hear,touch,percieve,smell because it doesn't exist.If it exist then you should be able to interact with it with your inbuilt abilities as a human.

You are what you are and nothing can change it except you.

Have a great day.

Am I right that you are an atheist? If so, are you also aware that God doesn't believe in atheists?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Popular Bible Quotations For Memorization And Meditation — Deuteronomy 31:8 by modupe01: 12:25pm On Nov 19, 2009

For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

-- Hebrews 12:10-11

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Gnostic Christian On Nairaland? by modupe01: 12:12pm On Nov 19, 2009

For those of you who have no understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, watch it presented in a nutshell in the video below.

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Christianity Etc › Re: ABC Of Salvation For Sincere Seekers by modupe01: 12:05pm On Nov 19, 2009

The Gospel of Jesus Christ by Paul Washer

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Christianity Etc › Re: Abuzola Should Emulate Olabowale; Davidylan Should Emulate Olaadegbu by modupe01: 11:59am On Nov 19, 2009

annyplenty:
this is to assume everybody is a christian, but unfortunately everybody is not.

Good point.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:52am On Nov 19, 2009

grace5:
>From the Heavenly
Bridegroom, to His Bride, the true Church, for whom He will soon return:

Come to Me!

Come to Me, my darling, My
beloved, My sweet Bride.? Come, and let
Me kiss away the hurts, love away the fears, and wash away anything that
hinders.? I don?t want anything between
us!

I long over you with a love
that is deeper than the ocean, a passion far more powerful than its waves.? I desire to draw you close to Me, enfolding
you in My embrace, till your heart soars with delight and finds its deepest
satisfaction in My presence.? In My
embrace you will find true peace and security, a sense of purpose, and your
destiny.? It is what you were created
for!

Come, and lay down the
burdens and the bondages that have been stumbling blocks to you.? Lay aside your own strength, the filthy rags
of your own righteousness, and take up My gift of sparkling white
garments.? Lay down your own desires,
and take up Mine, for as you delight yourself in Me, I will give you the true
desires of your heart.? Present yourself
on the altar of sacrifice, and I will truly raise you up in My resurrection
life, that you may live in My abundance.?
This is where you will begin to experience true intimacy with Me in its
fullness.

I desire for you to return
My great love, to make Me your over-riding passion.? I am jealous over My Bride, and I want your whole heart ? every
bit of it.? Search your heart, ask My
Spirit to help you, and cast down every high place that is not Mine.? Open your heart to the life-giving flow of
My Spirit, who can wash away all that is not of Me.?

I am calling you to come
close to me, my Bride.? I long to
embrace you fully.? As you lay yourself
on My altar, day by day, you will begin to experience unity with Me as never
before, and we will walk hand in hand, together in purpose, rejoicing in love,
spreading the glory of the Kingdom.?
Come close, My beloved, come close!

You are surely in the ministry of defence of the Kingdom of God. Angel Michael being the minister and Jesus the Lord of Host, mighty in battle, leading us into battle and giving us the victory. We should all subscribe into this ministry to smash the gates of hell.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by modupe01: 11:44am On Nov 19, 2009

Analytical:
Modupe01, God bless you richly. That has certainly blessed my soul today. Henrygirl, I agree it is awesome. Plus, the Captain of Hosts Himself is the One leading the offensive. Praise be to Him forever.

I bless the name of the Lord for making me a blessing to your soul today so remain blessed and be a blessing to others as you have always done.

You may notice that the armour of God listed in Ephesians 6:10-17 does not have pieces of protection for the back. This implis that we are to be on the offensive in spiritual warfare. In verse 11 we are told not to go barefooted. Many of us are truthful, having our hearts free of sin, we are sure of our salvation and rightly use the Word of God. But we are shoeless, that is, we are not prepared to share the gospel (I am equally guilty in this). We are also made aware that those who are not prepared to share the gospel do not advance the cause of the gospel, this makes us stationary soldiers. Any evangelistic movement is too painful for us. If we are not seeking to save the lost, we are not taking ground for the kingdom of God. In verses 18-19 Paul climaxed his admonition to the Ephesians by highlighting what the battle is for. He pleads with them to pray for him to have boldness to reach out to the unsaved, citing his moral responsibility in verse 20.

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