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Mohammed Musa, brother to the President of Miyetti Allah Kautal Hore, Bello Bodejo, has denied his involvement in the establishment of an ethnic militia group, Kungiya Zaman Lafiya.

He disclosed this in an affidavit in support of Bodejo’s bail application dated March 28, 2024.

Musa said his brother only had a registered vigilante company that offered security services to the members of the society and promoted peace.

He said, “The defendant/applicant neither established nor has any involvement with the Kungiya Zaman Lafiya ethnic militia group as alleged in the charge preferred against him on the 12th March 2024.

“The defendant/applicant only established a vigilante company which was duly registered under the Companies and Allied Matters Act, 2020 as Nomad Vigilante Nigeria Limited as opposed to an ethnic militia known as Kungiya Zaman Lafiya as alleged by the complainant in the charge preferred against the defendant/applicant.

“That the aim of establishing the vigilante company is to render security services to the members of the society and promote peace but not to commit any act of terrorism whatsoever.”

In a counter affidavit dated April 2 and deposed to by a litigation clerk in the Department of Public Prosecutions, Federal Ministry of Justice, Noma Wando, the Federal Government urged the court to dismiss the bail application brought by Bodejo.

He noted that contrary to his claim, the defendant is not suffering a life-threatening illness.

Wando also said the defendant would not attend trial if granted bail.

He said, “That all the facts deposed to by the deponent about ill health and heart failure amongst others in the affidavit brought before this court have not been proven to be cogent, credible, material or genuine to support his application to enable the court to exercise its discretion in his favor.

“That the defendant/applicant will not show up for his trial if granted bail due to the gravity of the alleged offences and the severity of punishment prescribed by law.”

Bodejo was arrested on January 23 at the Miyetti Allah’s office in Karu LGA of Nasarawa State for allegedly unveiling a militia group.

The Miyetti Allah leader was arraigned before Justice Inyang Ekwo of the Federal High Court in Abuja on three counts of terrorism on March 22, 2024.

At the hearing on his bail application on Wednesday, the counsel for the defendant, Dr. Sulaiman Usman, sought an adjournment, adding that the FG in its counter-affidavit raised fresh issues they would need to respond to.

The prosecution lawyer, Y. A Imana, did not oppose Usman’s plea for an adjournment.

Usman made an oral application to the court for an order directing the DIA to grant Bodejo access to his lawyers.

He added that the defendant needed access to his lawyers as well as adequate time to prepare for his trial.

Usman said, “We urge your lordship to order the DIA to grant the defendant access to his lawyers. He needs to be prepared for the trial.”

But Imana disagreed with Usman that Bodejo was denied access to his lawyers.

She said, “I don’t agree with him. After the last time that court ordered that he should be given medical attention and lawyers, we wrote them and the feedback we got was that the counsel had visited him.”

Ekwo, however, said, “Report to the court at any time you are denied access to him.”

The six South-West Nigerian states have been urged to establish O’odua Airlines dedicated to local and international routes.

In a statement on Tuesday, the Alliance for Yoruba Democratic Movements (AYDM) said the initiative has a very high prospect of viability.

The statement signed by its General Secretary, Mr Popoola Ajayi said the O’odua Airline will complement existing private initiatives which will ultimately lead to cuts in air travel costs, job creation and improvement in tourism and agriculture in the region and Nigeria as a whole.

The group said it had already sent letters to the state governors in the region, urging them to embark on the initiative.

It said, “We call on the Governors of Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ekiti and Ondo to begin the process of creating O’odua Airlines. This is of utmost priority.

“There are some 10 million Nigerians living in West Africa among whom are over three million Yoruba people resident in Ivory Coast alone. In Europe and America, the Yoruba and Nigerians have the largest population of black people.

“In the UK alone, there are no fewer than one million Nigerians while in the United States, the figure is even higher. These people use foreign airlines because there are no alternatives.”

The group said the O’odua airline will also boost the transport of agro-products in Nigeria.

The group commended the efforts of Air Peace CEO, Mr Allen Onyema, but added that there are many gaps yet to be filled in the aviation industry.

“Air Peace has made a remarkable move which is commendable, but this is not enough. Other stakeholders should invest in the aviation industry. The Southwest States should team up to establish a regional airline. This will remain a milestone and a significant contribution to solving unemployment and improving tourism in Nigeria and in the South West,” Ajayi said

He observed that since the establishment of Ibom Airlines, the project has continued to thrive. He added that the initiative of the Akwa Ibom State government is a challenge to other state governments in Nigeria.

The group said, “There can be no better time to establish the O’odua Airline. We suggest that Ibadan should be the commercial hub of the O’odua Airline. Five of the Southwest states, Lagos, Ondo, Ekiti, Oyo and Ogun states have airports.

“With O’odua Airline, the airports will become even more active.”

Ajayi urged the governors to set up a technical committee to look into the matter and work out the modalities without delay.

He said many aviation companies across the world will be anxious to partner with the Southwest states on the project.

Ijele Bail Application: Deji Adeyanju Confronts Police Prosecutor In Court Over Alleged Secret Meeting With Magistrate


The case which was slated for the hearing of the ball application of the defendant which was stalled last week following the inability of the court to sit at the last adjourned date.

There was a mild drama at the Wuse Zone 6 Magistrate Court Abuja, as a human rights lawyer, Deji Adeyanju on Wednesday threatened to raise a petition against the police lawyer, B.N Ezala who is the prosecutor in the case involving a social media influencer and blogger, Ofoegbu Chukwuma, otherwise known as Ijele for having a secret meeting with the presiding magistrate, Emmanuel A. Iyanna.

The case which was slated for the hearing of the ball application of the defendant which was stalled last week following the inability of the court to sit at the last adjourned date.

Trouble started when the prosecutor, B.N Ezala arrived at the court premises headed to the Magistrate office to have a secret meeting with him while the lawyers to the defendant were seated in the courtroom.

The situation was objected to by Adeyanju who confronted Ezala over what he described as unethical conduct .

The visible angry human rights lawyer upon sighting Ezala coming out of the Magistrate challenged the police prosecutor accusing her of unethical conduct just as he threatened to file a petition against her before the appropriate authorities.

He expressed displeasure over the action saying that it was not proper for the prosecution to engage in any secret meeting with the trial judge before the commencement of the proceedings.

Deji while confronting the prosecutor asked if she was a lawyer and she admitted that she was a lawyer.

“The matter is already before court and since you you have admitted you a lawyer. and you went to see the ‘judge’, no problem, come and announce appearance and I will petition you for your conduct," Deji fumed.

Deji was in the court as one of the legal team of the counsel to Ijele, Marvins Omorogbe, to argue the bail application of Ijele who was arrested and detained since March 20th 2024 for alleged case of criminal intimidation, threat to life, cyberstalking, and cyberbullying against Evangelist Ebuka Obi’s Zion Prayer Ministry Movement Outreach.

Indigenous aviation company, Air Peace, on Tuesday, raised the alarm that some intending passengers intending to book UK flights on its portal were defrauded by fraudsters who cloned its official website.

The alarm was coming a few days after the airline launched its historic direct flight from Nigeria to the United Kingdom.

Air Peace took to its official X handle (formerly Twitter) to raise the alarm, warning customers against the activities of scammers whom it said have cloned its website and fleecing unsuspecting passengers.

It further stated that the cyber criminals used some of its website identity collaterals to come up with a fake website and have used it to defraud unsuspecting customers.

It wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to the existence of a website “www.flyairpeace.uk” purporting to be an official Air Peace website and defrauding unsuspecting individuals.

“We would like to dissociate the Air Peace brand from this fraudulent site because it is not owned by us. The one and only website of the Air Peace remains “www.flyairpeace.com.

“Members of the public should totally ignore the site as it is impersonating Air Peace and fleecing passengers.”

ASABA — Residents of Okuama, Omosuomo, and other communities in Ughelli South Local Government Area, Delta State, still confined in the forests since the ongoing Army clearance operations in their domains over the killing of 17 soldiers on March 14, weekend, sent distress signals to President Bola Tinubu and Governor Sheriff Oborevwori to save their lives.

They complained that many are dying of hunger, and require urgent medical care in their hiding places.

The residents struggled to contact the leadership of their communities and relatives living in Warri and other cities to pass their message to President Tinubu and Governor Oborevwori.

Similarly, the facilitator of Niger-Delta Democratic Union, NDDU, and Warri-based lawyer, Dr. Akpo Mudiaga-Odje, has called on the Federal Government and the National Boundary Commission, NBC, to demarcate the boundaries of all communities in the country, and gazette them to stem the inter-communal crises rocking the country.

Correspondingly, another Delta lawyer and activist, Lawrence Oseya, declared yesterday that it is wrong for the Army to deny the governor of Delta State, Sheriff Oborevwori, access to the Okuama community where the tragic incident happened

Fleeing residents still hiding in the forests – Okuama indigene
An indigene of Okuama, who lives in Warri, told Vanguard: “Most of my relatives are still hiding in the forests because of the unfriendly military men. They have abandoned their phones and communicate strictly from person to person now.

“My uncle and cousins that escaped and would ordinarily have come to my family house in Warri could not do so as not to invite trouble for us.

Our relatives taking cover in the bush – Abizor, Omosuomo chair
The chairman of Omosuomo Federated Communities in Ughelli South, Chief Henry Abizor, in a communication, entitled “Okuama killings: Attack on Omosuomo Federated Communities by the Military and razing down buildings, we are calling on both state and federal governments to come to our rescue.”

The letter read: “We, the peace-loving people of Omosuomo Federated Communities, from Ewu Clan in Ughelli South Local Government Area of Delta State, unequivocally call on the government of Delta State, under the leadership of Sheriff Oborevwori, and President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Bola Tinubu to come to our aid.”

“Most of our people remain in the bush for days running, for fear of the military coming for another operation.

“Our people are seriously in pain and psychological trauma, receiving both native and unorthodox treatments to recover from the shock.

“We condemn taking of human life, especially that of innocents. We sympathize with the families of those military personnel killed at Okuama by some criminal elements. To the innocents who died during the ugly incident at Okuama, we sympathize and pray that all the departed souls, rest in peace.

“The invasion of Omosuomo Federated Communities twice on March 20 and 24, 2024, resulted in looting of residents’ properties, money amounting to millions of naira from locked-up stores as they came in with five war boats with uniformed men, who disembarked with sporadic shootings that sent residents running for their dear lives.

“Locked doors were broken as they searched homes and around without seeing anything they were searching for. The soldiers assembled those, who could not run away in the community town hall where the initial statement of peaceful visitation turned to mass beating, humiliation, and molestation of both the aged men and women.

“The young ones who could not take refuge in the communities were tortured to stupor. Our people are living very far from Okuama and Okoloba. We do not share land boundaries with any of these communities.

“Buildings were set ablaze, with properties worth millions of naira destroyed. This is painful and oppressive.”

Gazette boundaries of all communities —Mudiaga-Odje, lawyer
Speaking, constitutional lawyer, Dr. Mudiaga-Odje called on the National Boundary Commission, NBC, to come out with a map and survey plans, which the Federal Government should gazette, designating well-identified and settled boundaries of communities in Nigeria.

“This is the gravamen of the matter, which is our collective quest and aspiration to forestall future recurrence of this kind of avoidable trajectory of tragedy.”

“The National Boundary Commission is a body established by law and vested with the exclusive authority to demarcate territories or communities within Nigeria.


“Accordingly, we now expect a more proactive approach from the commission to establish with arithmetic certainty, all lands and boundaries of every community in Nigeria.

“It should come out with a map and survey plans, which should be gazetted by the Federal Government, reflecting such well cut out and negotiated boundaries of our communities in Nigeria.

“This will go a long way to avert future community clashes as in the Okuama/Okoloba debacle.

“Indeed, most communal crises are because of land and boundary claims. Contending communities lay claim to each other’s enclaves, especially where there is a mineral and natural resource of economic value on the land.

“These contending communities, in a bid to outwit each other, usually draw up shylock boundaries that go beyond their real territorial boundaries,” he said.


He pointed out, “Equitable demarcation and accurate boundary adjustments through negotiable settlements will forestall future communal crisis in Nigeria.”

It’s wrong to prevent Oborevwori from accessing Okuama — Oseya, lawyer
Another lawyer, Frank Oseya, said, “The role of the Army in the aftermath of the ugly incident so far leaves a stale taste in the buds.

“To have razed the Okuama community ( scene of a crime) and to have gone ahead to burn neighbouring communities along the coastline down to Bayelsa State is not only an erasure of critical evidence, but it is also an act preemptive ( wrongly so ) of investigation.

“To have disallowed the Governor of Delta State- the Chief Security Officer- of the State from gaining access to the community for on-the-spot assessment of the situation is patently discourteous of protocol.

“I have looked at our laws, just to be sure I did not miss the latest amendment, and I am yet to find where the Nigerian Army is donated with investigative powers. The police have that power. It is a strange procedure that the King of Ewu, declared wanted by the military authority, turns himself in, and the police hand him over to the Army. For the Army to do what exactly?


“Let it be made clear that the Army is an interested party in this whole brouhaha, it cannot be the investigator, the prosecutor, and the judge in its cause. As spooky as the events of March 14th and 15th in the Okuama community, we cannot say for certain- at least for now – who the masterminds were. There are still too many accounts, and no less grey areas and questions begging for clarification and answers.

“This is a clarion call, therefore, and a reiteration of the call for the Federal Government to set up a high-powered investigation panel or a commission of inquiry to unravel the immediate and remote causes of the Okuama sad event.

“Meanwhile, the muted idea to turn the Okuama community into a military barrack must be roundly condemned too, as that would amount to ethnic cleansing. The Federal authorities must be careful in going about this whole thing not to worsen an already bad situation.

“Fish out the few unscrupulous elements that killed those officers, and men of the Nigerian Army, yes! However, in doing so, we must not set the children’s teeth on edge because their fathers have eaten soured grapes.”

DeOTR:
Unmarried
But I believe someone is trying to make us believe he committed suicide.

Depriest2020:
It's a federal road. I think Dave Umahi is already taking steps to fix it.

abc115:
E patewo fun Umahi
E patewo fun Tinubu
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

Nigerian afrobeat musician Bisade Ologunde is better known by his stage name, Lagbaja. His signature face mask denotes him as the country’s everyman—the faceless individual.

As a Yoruba word, Lágbájá means a person whose name and identity are purposely concealed or an invisible person. He is somebody, anybody, and everyone. He is the soul of the community.

It was pretty interesting, if not surprising, when in March 2021, the Chief of Army Staff, now deceased General Ibrahim Attahiru, appointed Major General Taoreed Abiodun Lagbaja as General Officer Commanding the 82 Division of the Nigerian Army.

I initially wondered how anyone would bear Lágbájá as a name beyond just a generic appellation. I later learned the indisputable fact—that the military officer’s family name evolved from his father’s car dealership business, Lagbaja Motors, especially in Osun State.

As the GOC in Enugu, this peculiar Lagbaja in the Army displayed the uncanny leadership trait of being both hot and cool in instilling a high level of discipline among the troops. He sought to refine every man—every officer—into the best version of their professional selves. With his carrot and stick approach deployed in equal measure, there was always the reward for gallantry and good conduct, in tandem with punishment for cowardice and misconduct.

For instance, in June 2022, while inaugurating a general court martial to try some soldiers for alleged indiscipline, Lagbaja stated that the process was to instill overall discipline in the army by punishing erring officers in a manner that would serve as a deterrent to others.

The following month, while honouring some soldiers with brand new motorcycles and awarding them letters of commendation for diligence in their duties, Lagbaja described their performances as laudable while charging other soldiers to emulate the exemplary conduct of the honourees.

After the death of General Attahiru in a plane crash, the new Chief of Army Staff, Lt General Faruk Yahaya, redeployed Lagbaja to Kaduna as the GOC of the 1st Division due to the deplorable activities of bandits and terrorists in that axis, which had become a grave source of concern, and was spilling into and constituting a threat to Abuja, the Federal Capital Territory.

It was in Kaduna that General Lagbaja rose into a household name as he led the battle against violent criminals from the front. Rather than simply mounting roadblocks, he and the troops he commanded waded deep into the forests, taking the war to the enemies in their conclaves.

In the first month of his assumption of office as the 39th GOC of the 1st Division of the Nigerian Army, Major General Lagbaja stormed kidnappers’ dens. He rescued the victims while leading fighting patrols in Manini village, Buruku, Udawa, Manini, Birnin Gwari, Doka, Maganda, Kuyello and Dogon Dawa communities. Apart from eliminating scores of bandits, others were captured alive.

The following month, September 2022, the troops under his command struck the camps of the notorious banditry gangs of Boderi Isiya and Musti, which were responsible for the security breach at the Nigerian Defence Academy, the kidnappings of students of the Federal College of Forestry Mechanisation, the attack on the Emir of Bungudu, among other such atrocities.

In the operation, the troops eliminated kingpins such as Musti, Yellow Mai-Madrid, and Dan-Katsinawa, among others, whose battered corpses littered the operational areas, especially along the Tollgate and other axis of Chikun and Sabon Gida.

Similarly, in October 2022, the troops sustained their onslaught against bandits. They recovered massive caches of weapons during the Operation Forest Sanity campaign traversing Maidaro, Kagi Hill, Kusharki and Anguwan Madaki in Birnin Gwari Local Government Area. The clearance operation extended to Sabon Birnin – Zartake, Ungwan Lima Riyawa and Tungan Madaki general area, with the interception of numerous fleeing bandits from Kagi Hill.

In fact, from November 2022 till June 2023, the military operations led by Lagbaja as GOC led to the wiping out of many terrorists and the rescue of kidnapped victims, besides the recovery of sophisticated weapons and hoards of ammunition and motorcycles in the general area of responsibility.

The then Governor of Kaduna State, Malam Nasir El-Rufai, was so delighted with the various military successes that he regularly issued statements through his Commissioner for Internal Security, Samuel Aruwan, praising Lagbaja and his troops for the commendable feats and notable security breakthroughs made since he took command of the Division.

Likewise, the then Chief of Army Staff (COAS), Lieutenant General Faruk Yahaya, through the Army Spokesperson, General Nwachukwu, applauded Lagbaja and his gallant troops for their unrelenting zeal in decimating banditry and terrorism in that axis.

In July 2023, after the inauguration of President Bola Ahmed Tinubu, General Lagbaja, who was the arrowhead of the successes that troops were recording against armed bandits, terrorists and cattle rustlers in Kaduna and surrounding states, was redeployed to an administrative position in the military high command in Abuja, beyond the operational one that he had made a massive success of.

Since then, Kaduna has not been the same, making me often ask where the Lagbaja of Kaduna was, as we are now – very unfortunately – inundated with reports of attacks on worship centres, homes and the abduction of vulnerable people, especially women and schoolchildren.

The situation in Kaduna is so disturbing that almost every month, there are devastating stories of woe and routine assault on the people who have now become hapless victims of banditry and terrorism. The PRNigeria Monthly Security Reviews provide glimpses of many of these atrocities.

For instance, in January 2024, terrorists attacked Ungwan Sako, Kunkurai, and Dokan Kaji in Dawaki Ward in Kauru Local Government Area, from where they abducted dozens of people after killing a number of the locals.

In February, terrorists invaded Gindin Dutse Makyali village in the Kufana district of Kajuru and burnt several houses. At least 12 people were burnt to death in their rooms, as it became impossible for them to escape the bandits, who were also shooting sporadically. They also killed the Principal of Kuriga Secondary in Chikun for resisting a kidnap attempt while making efforts to escape with some women. The terrorists similarly invaded Gwada and Kassam in Igabi, as well as areas in Kauru, killing and maiming people. At the same time, scores were also abducted, including a retired Central Bank of Nigeria director.

The month of March witnessed more daring attacks and massive kidnappings. After the daredevil bandits abducted over 280 Kuriga schoolchildren, another group of gunmen opened fire on worshippers during the Friday prayer at a Mosque in Angwar Makera, Kwasakwasa Community, a few days before the commencement of Ramadan.

Terrorists also attacked the Kajuru-Station village and a nearby Dogon Noma community, where over 100 people were reportedly abducted, including women and children, as usual. Similar situations occurred as the miscreants stormed Tantau ward, looting local shops, before fleeing with dozens of men and women herded away like cattle. Even in the Buda community, also in Kajuru, no fewer than 61 people were reportedly abducted in another organised attack.

Kidnappings for ransom payments have become an almost daily occurrence and lucrative businesses for criminal gangs as if the security services are powerless and helpless to stop them.

While it is gladdening that the Kuriga kids’ freedom has been secured after they were held for more than two weeks in the criminals’ den, I still ask: Can’t we get another Lagbaja of Kaduna to re-strategize and lead the troops from the front towards degradations of criminal activities while restoring the people’s confidence in the safety of the axis?

The Chief Executive Officer, CEO of Air Peace Airlines, Allen Onyema, has narrated how his airlines suffered what he called both internal and external conspiracies.
Onyema disclosed this on Monday while fielding questions on Arise Television’s Morning Show programme.

Onyema said ‘his own country’ denied Air Peace and threw back its application for a Technical Country Operators (TCO) permit, which could have allowed the airlines to start going into any European country.

He lamented that it took the nation’s leading airlines seven years to get the designation to go into London.

“You suffer what I call both internal and external conspiracies. It took us seven years. We got the designation, I think about six and a half years ago to go into London. Since then, it has been a Cat-and-Mouse game.

“We actually procured our three 777s because of this route, not for any other route,… However, we were not allowed to go.


“Whether you like it or not, there is what is called international aero politics which is very dirty. We applied for the TCO. TCO means Technical Country Operators permit, you must get that one before you start going into any European country, UK inclusive. And the TCO organization from Europe wrote our Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority- Do you know Air Peace? Do you know about their designation? And we were denied. My own country denied us, so they threw it back.

“We went back to the NCAA, they said, oh, we didn’t tell them. Who designated us, the Federal Ministry of Aviation, whose duty it was and still is to do that. We said okay, we’re ready. They refused, they said until they allow us to apply. So, we got a designation from the Federal government, and the NCAA, under the same Federal Government, was telling us that we should not make any application towards going into the UK.”

Onyema suggested that Nigerian airlines need all the necessary support they could get from the Federal Government.

LegendHero:
lol Agulu fraudster.

Man was crying about that he was rigged only to start running around mosque because he knew his earlier strategy of “Christian take back your country” failed woefully like those of Zik.

I love how he is running around mosque, at this rate, he need to visit Makkah too to complete it. Shebi his minions said Tinubu is trying to islamize Nigeria, desperation is now making Obi islamize himself and his gangs of delusional Obedient.

FuckYeyeMods:
Stop body shaming any human, is totally unfair.
You won't understand how insecure it makes someone feels.
Because of fear of body shaming, some people might not attain desired achievement in life.
Please desist from it except you're whom I'm thinking.

The Chief of Army Staff, Lt. Gen. Taoreed Lagbaja, has reassured Nigerians that the service personnel are determined to completely eradicate terrorists, bandits, and other threats.

The Army Chief added that the service was focused and determined to bring peace to the country.

Nigeria has been afflicted by numerous security challenges, including terrorism, banditry, and kidnapping, resulting in the loss of lives, abduction of many, and displacement of citizens.

In his Easter message on Sunday, Lagbaja noted that the service had recorded successes in the ongoing operations against terrorism and banditry among others.

He said, “The Nigerian Army remains committed, determined, and focused on ensuring the total defeat of insurgents, marauding bandits, and all other forms of external and internal aggressions disturbing the peace of the country.

“Accordingly, under my leadership, the Nigerian Army has continued to record tremendous successes in various operations at home and abroad. You all can attest to our achievements so far, especially in the ongoing Operation Hadin Kai in the North East and other internal security operations nationwide.

“While urging all officers and soldiers of the Nigerian Army to use the season to pray for our continued successes, I wish our Christian faithful and, indeed, all Nigerian Army personnel and their families a wonderful and Happy Easter Celebration.”


The COAS stated that he had provided the needed training and resources for his men to tackle the insecurity ravaging the country.

“In line with my command philosophy, ‘To transform the Nigerian Army into a well-trained, equipped and highly-motivated force towards achieving our constitutional responsibilities’, I have ensured the implementation of quality training and equipping toward combating the myriads of security threats confronting the nation,” he said.

He assured his men that he would prioritise their welfare and training.

“As we continue to push towards the final onslaught on the adversaries troubling our nation, I assure you that the welfare of officers and soldiers, including training and provision of the needed equipment, will always be prioritized to enable us to discharge our constitutional responsibilities effectively.

” I, however, charge personnel of the service to use the Easter celebration to offer prayers against all forms of negative forces militating against the peace and progress of Nigeria,” he added.

Ahmed4002:
Bloggers sha.

This is a sign of respect for someone in highest office.

You can see clearly the body language and discussion they were having at last.