₦airaland Forum

TMKsouth:
Your big business is not professional or competitive enough to enter or survive in the sophisticated SA economy.

Why not let them enter and fail so your assertion above is valid. Please don't sound foolish, its tantamount to parroting the national party accusing the ANC of not being professional or sophisticated enough to run the economy of South Africa, no?

TMKsouth:
Your existing (small & informal) businesses operate on the margins of society in underprivileged communities - that's why they're prone to xenophobic attacks.

There goes a display of your own S.tupidity again. All this further demonstrates is the underlining xenophobic tendency of the underpriviledged South African who can be easily manipulated to see another poor underpriviledged person who is able to make a better way as "the enemy".

Self hate is a predominant effect of a people oppressed for a long time. Sociology 101. You must have been asleep the day that lesson was taught, no?

TMKsouth:
Nigeria doesn't have big business in SA - only taverns, barbershops and ponmo stalls. What else should I have used as a comparison?

How can we have any big businesses when your xenophobic protectionist azzes block any businesses from competing in your territory.

TMKsouth:
MTN and DSTV in Nigeria should fill all posts with South Africans or Ghanaians, and "occassionally" employ Nigerians and see how you feel about that.

False comparison. You are reaching now. Which big multinational or even national company in South Africa employs African foreigners on a large scale? minus the health care industry which you have a huge shortage of Doctors please give me the list.

You must be talking about farm workers, domestics and waiter-servers of which your own people are shying away from leaving the gap for these underskilled migrants to fill. Maybe you believe in a capitalist system like yours the jobs are just suppose to be there sitting for you for when you having finished drinking at the Shebeen on sunday, expect to just wake up and head to "your" job on Monday.

TMKsouth:
I keep saying you don't know what the heck you're talking about...

Point 1 this is what is called Anectdotal evidence you m.oron.

Point 2. look very carefully at the statement he is making. In the formal sector, South African law requires that any available job posting must be geared towards South Africans first before anyone else is considered for the position( implicit discriminatory practice but I will concede that point). In other words If I walk into FNB and apply for a job only if there is not a qualified SA available to fill that position will I get the job or if the Job is listed as one which requires "critical skills" i.e. extraordinary skills to be taken into consideration. Your Mayor knows this very well. What he does is go to the informal sector where there are zero skilled labor to complain that SA are not given job preferences over "others". Can't you see how s.tu.pid that is.

How can an intelligent person who claims to be a visionary be fighting for "menial job employment" employment opportunites for his people in Pakistani tuck shops. Instead of pushing for training programs, assistance programs, overseas job training opportunities, venture capital funding, Micro financing to small up coming businesses, tax reliefs and business incentives for small start ups, he is busy rallying you xenophobic buffons against small scale informal foreign enterprises that don't even make up to a million rand a year in profits as the bain of your society.

Like I said before the man is a Mampara!

TMKsouth:
ps... Learn the meaning of "occassionally".

Okay sorry African Foriegners occasionally employ South African locals. Happy now.

The point however remains, South Africans are employed by foreigners.

TMKsouth:
While u were focussed on p*ssy I was studying sociology for a semester and checking my surroundings in Johannesburg. I know a whole lot more than you do

You got it twisted fam, The nyanshing was just extra. I was busy studying the country much more in-depth than you probably have ever but you think just because you live in a country you must as a default fully understand it better. Your sociology studies obviously didn't benefit you that much.

TMKsouth:
Yes he is. South Africans are also dissatisfied with them

i will believe that when I see it but most his speeches always lean towards hair dressers, uber drivers and spaza shop owners. We know who he is referring to eh Mfethu.

TMKsouth:
No South African will allow himself to be caged up inside a Somali container spaza the whole day. They hire Southern Africans from poor countries. I think you can't tell the difference between Southern Africans if you say you've seen it with your own eyes

This unfortunately is a big lie but hey we can't prove with way can we but I dare you to run a study on this and see what you come back with.

TMKsouth:
The only LEGITIMATE Nigerian businesses capable of creating employment are bars and internet cafes. Barbershops don't hire. I only see Zim girls selling in Nigerian pubs with Nigerians, Congolese, and occasionally Zulus as security

SMH.
I have seen many a mechanic shops with South African men working as apprentices all over the place, may a Nigerian restaurants and bars where South African women work. You should really visit parts of your country my man, you will be shocked.

PS aren't these Zulu's you refer to South African. Hmm?

TMKsouth:
I lived in Joburg CBD, Hillbrow and Braamfontein throughout a span of 2 decades since my varsity years son. I've seen it all - you can't tell me jack. I know what I'm talking about, whereas you still can't even differentiate between a South African and Malawian

A Malawian substitutes his "L" for his " R"and vice versa when he speaks plus their women are taller and have more central African features thus are,very easy to differentiate from you lot.

I have frequented Yeoville, Hillbrowand your Bramfontein where I smashed a whole bunch of your college honies and partied so please keep quiet with your 2 decade BS. The point continues to be do these foreigners hire South Africans and the answer is a resounding Yes! Yes Yes!

TMKsouth:
I told u all Somali, Pakistani, Ethiopian, Nigerian and most Chinese shops hire African migrants exclusively to avoid legal wages and paying taxes. That's their handout.

SMH.

Point 1. Please remove Pakistani and Chinese from the above list. I specifically said African immigrants. We all know Mashaba is not going for the above 2 other nationalities you mention above.

Point 2. That leaves the Somali, Ethiopian and Nigerian Shops. Somali's typically run spaza shops and do employ South Africans. I have seen this with my own two eyes so please don't say it is a lie. What they do however is keep their own people in higher positions or duties within these enterprises as a protective measure against infilitration of their illicit supply chain activities so they stay comparatively competitive.

Point 3.. The Nigerians employ the same tactics. The Nigerians overwhelmingly employ South Africans in their businesses but do not give them higher positions because of the same competitive edge reason as the Somali.

Point 4. The Ethiopians I cannot honestly comment on because I have not done any comprehensive observations on this particular community. What I do know is that they are extremely reclusive and pose no imminent economic danger to the South African masses at large in any way I have so far observed.

So you see my slow friend the fact of the matter is that these are instances of comparative economic 'competition" and not economic advantages, eliminate this threat s or "ACT" as if you are trying to eliminate this threat as your beloved would be Mayor continues to aspouse to you dimwits will gain you the support of people who don't realize the real economic game that is being played.

Good luck with your "ghana must go strategy".

TMKsouth:
Yeah I'll actually like to congratulate South Africans for seeing right through Malema . African media always portrays him as some kind of revolutionary but SA don't buy that

BTW, he's on a drug called meth

https://www.nairaland.com/6840026/not-iceblock-mkpuru-mmiri-dangerous

You are scared of his extreme socialist tendencies and though a victim of a corrupt capitalist regime that permeates your society and keeps the mass of the people on less than a living wage because of your xenophobic tendencies and the fear that you will loose out to local/immigrant competition you have settled for protectionist tendencies in the name of "south African first"

Tell me when has any other group of Africans ever had an economic advantage or been given any handouts in South Africa that has given them an advantage over you. I want a list neh!

TMKsouth:
Funny how you're going back and forth with someone you've repeatedly called "slow brains".

I like to help the disabled

TMKsouth:
You lost this debate the day South Africans voted Mashaba to become the kingmaker in Johannesburg. Let's now put out the popcorn, take a seat and watch how he's gonna deal with y'all as promised . U did your best bad-mouthing him and trying to keep him out of Hillbrow, but he's here now and it's Ghana Must Go time

Silly boy who doesn't know mathematics, how much % did Mashaba get again in Joburg. If the people overwhelmingly voted for him why does he need a coalition to survive. He should have taken it all neh!

I am with you on the Ghana must go. I really believe South Africa is over hyped for Nigerians and other Africans in particular. The county was a 1st world country wrapped around a third world before the arrival of immigrants and will still remain such after they leave.

I personally want most Africans to leave that country, its time for them to move on. The dream of South Africa is not what people believe it to be. I hope it really happens. This thought however doesn't change the fact that the mampara Mashaba has and will continue to be an illiterate charlatan from Garankuwa who misses the days of the bantustans where he derived profits from his people and is not in the next phase to amass political power.

Yes my slow brained friend, The watcher will be watching closely. I can only comment on what I see I cannot interfere on the outcomes but I have a strong inclination where it is headed.

TMKsouth:
Oh lawd, no ! I'll read this long frustrated loser rant tomorrow. theTransciber, please become theSummarizer of this seemingly boring epistle.

Like I said slow brains need that much time to decipher such simple questions and respond. I await your slow reply tomorrow then.

TMKsouth:
Learn to stick to your lane, whether I make a thousand or million threads on Nairaland, you never see me comment on Nigerian politics, unless I'm bashing idiots like u in retaliation.

You just mentioned the old man Tinubu, isn't he a politician.

You are slow in the brain indeed. No doubt a result of Bantu education.

TMKsouth:
Illegal immigration is a drain on the fiscus as well as the number one reason for infrastructure decay in Johannesburg. Go to hijacked delapidated buildings and see who mostly stays in there, not to speak of the people doing the hijacking. Funds meant to educate and feed South Africans and refugees are diverted to policing undocumented criminals and feed them in prisons as well as repatriating them (only to return again). Go to any Somali, Ethiopian, Pakistani or Nigerian shop and see who is employed there - mostly Zimbabweans, Malawians and Mozambicans to cut on costs and avoid paying taxes. South African stores hire South Africans and legitimate people.

A drain on fiscus you say, so is the government paying rent of any occupants in this delapidated buildings, are there any feeding programs for these illegals. Do they collect monthly stipends?

2. How can foreigner hijack a building in the middle of Johannesburg, do they have any standing army that protects their interests in these slums, what prevents your military or police force from driving them out. Hmmmm?

3. In terms of undocumented criminals, what funds as a total are being diverted to these "undocumented criminals" as a percentage of overall crime policing in South Arica. What percentage of criminals occupy South African prisons and are draining your prison resources. case in point 49 million black south Africans vs at the most 5 million immigrants in tota both legal and illegal with about 1% of that number involved in criminal activity particular concentrated in specific cities. Hmmmmm?

4. So on aggregate these Nigerian and Somali shop owners are the bain of your society, what about the Indians who control the hotel and hospitality industry in kwazulu natal who employ foriegners, the White cape tonians who employ Zimbabwean nannies, Malawian house boys and pay them under the table, avoiding taxes, why are you not up in arms for these ones. Hmmmm?

TMKsouth:
So come back better prepared next time u try to challenge me and in less denial about how millions of illegal immigrants are destructive to any society. Even super rich Europe is returning you guys back to your Libyan cages - where u belong - coz you've destroyed your own countries and then you wanna comment about a businessman like Mashaba who has the best interests of his country at heart.

Who employs these illegals when they come into the country?

Who patronizes these illegal shops and businesses?

Who collects rent from these illegals?

Who rents their RDP houses to these illegals?

Who gives Visa's to these over stayers and illegals?

Please don't compare Europe who have real charters on Human rights and are unfortunately reaping the karma of raping a continent for centuries and building wealth upon it only to believe that they would be able to get away with that in the global world we live in now.

Your man Mashaba is a politician who will promise you the world and under deliver. He picked the weakest and most vulnerable set of people in South Africa to galvanize you dimwits. The man can't differentiate an economic migrant from an illegal immigrant from a refugee from illegal foreigner committing crime nor can he articulate the differences. A xenophobe in disguise who parades himself as an intellectual who made money off selling poison hair products to his own people who were dumb enough not to realize that then are still too dumb to realize the scam now.

TMKsouth:
You're clearly the one with the slow brain.

U definitely had a stake that an anti-Nigerian Mashaba doesn't make it. Why else did u spend so long on this thread trying to convince us not to vote for him?

How can I convince you not to vote for Mashaba, what power do I have to do that. Can I stop you from going to polls. I merely was stating my disdain for his politics and lust for politicking in power as well as his illiterate comments.

TMKsouth:
The EFF has far greater resources and even does their biggest rallies in Johannesburg. Remember Ghandi Square a few weeks ago and Soweto stadium in 2019? So they were clearly defeated in Jozi coz South Africans are tired of the inner city rot that Malema protects through illegal immigration.

I don't have problems with dealing with illegal immigration, never have. I do have a problem with a mampara who is using these demographic of people as the focal point of South Africa's problems. How does an illegal immigrant stop you from doing anything in your own country? Who is employing these illegals? How are they getting jobs? When they make money within the country, where are they spending this money? Do they give them any funds that they don't give your fellow compatriots. If you are referring to criminality by foreign nationals, that's another issue. Criminality is criminality and must be stomped out regardless of who partakes in it.

TMKsouth:
I mentioned u coz u barged into my discussion with a fellow South African a few weeks ago dissing Mashaba unashamedly. So u invited yourself and now that Mashaba did very well you're claiming ignorance.and want to be left alone.

I did barge in because I am free to express my views on anyone I deem is a dimwit. I however cannot influence the decisions of anyone who is a xenophobe.

TMKsouth:
Next time please stick to matters of the octogenarian Tinubu and whether his knees are healing well or not as he prepares to become your newly minted president.

When you leave Nairaland and stop making SA threads on Nairaland I will do that, until then Nana!

TMKsouth:
Don't be a sore loser -

?, Did I have any stake in the elections, how do I loose.

Slow Slow brain.

TMKsouth:
there were over 300 parties - many of them regional, and they didn't do as well as Mashaba. Your darling EFF was outrightly rejected coz they wanna turn Joburg into Lagos. Not gonna happen, that's why people ran to Mashaba.

Yes because Action SA spent all their resources on specific areas they knew they would be able to impact while the EFF were active throughout the entire country.

Slow slow brain.

TMKsouth:
Leave it to South Africans how the coalitions will play out - it's none of your business. Why wouldn't Mashaba go with the DA when the ANC has also turned Joburg into a dump like your EFF also wishes to.

First you make it my business by mentioning my name, then you say its not my business. Then you say i should leave the parties on how they will they will form coalitions then you say I like the EFF?

SLow slow brain.

JaceBlaze:
Like the way Malema is squealing like a dying pig right now?

Viva the EFF!

Long live Malema the commander in chief!

Long live the pan Africanist!. Long live.

Long live the revolution that will take place in Africa!

Down with Mamparas and impimpis, Mashaba!

TMKsouth:
Congratulations! Seems we'll be in coalition with the DA to run Joburg.

morpheus24 must be having a week from hell with these results.

When a party puts all their eggs in one basket and runs in two major metropolitan cities its not beyond a mathematical probability that they attain such a result.

The google eyed Mashaba still remains a Mampara of the DA of who he of course anticipated he would have to coalition with.