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rudedough: What does these trophies have to do with the death of Nelson Mandela?

Are you showcasing these trophies to show how powerful South Africa boxing is or to start an e-rumble on which country collected the most trophies?

Either way your intention isn't a good one and this is not the right thread to do that. For Pete's sake your leader just died, grow up son, grow up.

Dont mind the picture spamming Ghana-South african. he has become disillusioned ever since they closed down his favorite Naija vs South Africa thread, he doesn't know what to do with himself anymore.

CraigB: Many have tried. Many have failed.

My hard-to-ignore posts hit home about the failing military of naai-geria. When the pain gets too much, Naai-ralanders resort to derailment.

It's as simple as that.

Typical of White infiltrators in African forums.

The "god" complex

I don tire for argentina

Father

Out of respect for a fallen Icon.

I will delay my responses for now.

Africa salutes you Madiba


You will be remembered!

CraigB: Go home. Get a cup of tea. Read "climate vs weather".

Once you understand the difference, come and try again.

Drinking the cup of Rooibos tea...... Uhhhhhhh.... nah don't see the relevance of the above point. Another diversionary tactic by the Mukiwa.

As usual a display of the audacity of white priviledged education.

CraigB: And don't talk "correlation" because you admitted that it's only an indicator of the likelihood of causation - not proof - which can be rebutted by inquiring minds. And an inquiring mind, you aren't. You settle on the first thing that you see.

And this inability to now correlate snow with whiteness in Asia proves this. "Doesn't have anything to do with..." -your words. That you yourself have admitted that your theory doesn't apply universally proves that correlation was never causation.

The intent was never to correlate snow with whiteness or the migration of whites into Asia? ( as usual a misrepresentation of my posts). The intent was to correlate the similarity of climate conditions in the home country and settler country with the size of the white settler population. The misrepresentation caused by white priviledged education wants to insinuate that Morpheus's correlation implies absolute causation in every instance.

CraigB: I still need an answer: where are the whites in the listed regions: Tibet, northern India, Mongolia, to name but 3? The climate map puts these regions closer to Europe. Where are the whites?

Irrelevant to the point at hand. The assertion never implies that where there is snow you will find white people

CraigB: Now, weather vs climate. Research that and happily withdraw the weather picture of snow in africa, that you posted. Unless you want to look even more sîlly, of course.

The pic of snow in south Africa simply implies that in comparison to regions closer to the equator in Africa i.e. West Africa, the weather in South Africa is susceptible to extreme cold to the point of Snow. A conducive climatic condition for White settlers seeing that their adaptations are in tune with that sort of condition

CraigB: As for your "whiteness" story - you struggle with the South Americans because race doesn't exist biologically anyway. But the social classification side of race says there are white people in these countries. Your protestations are meaningless and desperate. You weren't only given Columbia, as an example anyway.

I don't know who came up with that social classification or if they consulted native Africans about it before they made it up so if I choose to ignore it, forgive my boldness in the face of social constructs.

Sorry but to me the man from spain is not white while the man from Austria is, regardless of long running scientific" race is not biological" arguement so for all intent and purpose, Columbia is out, Australia, Canada, the US and South Africa are in. They are typical White settler populations.

CraigB: Now, the countries on the weather map, including Australia, that are red - are nothing like Europe.

except that each of them have four seasons in the year much like europe with cold winters and hot summers.

For the record. I do not consider Southern spanish people or southern Portuguese, most of whom colonized those areas to be "white people". They are Europeans for sure, but definitely not white by my standards. Sorry, this factors into my correlation assertion so Columbia is eliminated from the arguement.

CraigB: On the climate map, northern Asia is closer to Europe. Trickling of whites. Where are the whites in Tibet? Where are the whites in Mongolia? In northern India, to name but three?

White people don't melt.

Irrelevant to the correlation point. Doesn't have anything to do with "white settlements". THe assertion does not state that white people are found in every region where the climate is similar to that of Europe.

CraigB: A whole lot of irrelevant nothing.

Like Europe, the desert is not.

Snowy, Tibet is. But white people, it has bit.

Neither does northern India and Outer Mongolia.

Rather stick to skin-colour throwaways.

The climate in Tibet has nothing more to do with anything anymore than Japan has to do with snowy weather

Lets stick to places that have large white settlers population shall we.

paniki: I was just waiting for you to expose more foolishness. I enjoy the slow kill. You still have not told me what you think about the Brits who settled in that desert continent down under.

Apparently the desert doesn't get cold in Australia nor do they ever have cold winter weather in the southern parts of the continent.


I have to spot the next 10 degree celsius weather in West AFrica for you the next time it occurs.

paniki: I was saving Brazil and South America for later.

Yep

waiting for the Mukiwa to take the lead.

winter in nigeria!!!

CraigB: Thinking 101.

Correlation is not causation.

And I didn't know South Africa, Australia, Chile and Brazil had European weather and climate.

Amazing.

The audacity of the Mukiwa!

White priviledged education 101

"Where there is correlation there always is likely causation."



PS when next you travel to any of the above countries don't forget to take your speedo in winter time. Hate to see the sun fry your delicate skin.

sweetcheecks: One and the same thing if I respond to Nigerians on the zpolitics section you will ban me. The fact of the matter is I have respected Nigerians by never opening a thread on the Politics section but responds to the slurs thrown on South African on that section only to be banned for weeks on end so to allow Nigerians to insult me while I can do nada sbout that. Double standards I say. If it were South Africans they will be called Xenophobes. Geee!

You should go and open your own South african forum for native black Africans so we can come on your threads and you can also have the power to moderate and ban us

Shikena!

paniki: Hahahahahahaha, you are right dude. It's all about economics as I pointed out, maybe I should not have been so brief. I can't believe that you're still pushing this climate gibberish. What do you have to say about British prisoners who were banished to that desert continent in the Southern Hemisphere? They seem to have settled just fine in the desert heat. I can't believe that your world view is so limited. Do you know why so many people(all races) are moving to unlivable places like Dubai? The weather is no barrier where there is cash to be made. I repeat, whites would have stayed in their numbers had Naija oil been discovered in the 1800s, this would have brought in more whites to set up feeder industries and in no time and a full fledge economy would flourish.

HAHAHAHAHA, right back at ya dude.

Bantu education is astonishing. Of course people are able to "settle" anywhere on the face of the planet post modern era. You can find black people in iceland and white people in the deserts of Dubai.

However the above observation does not diminish the sufficient factor i.e Climate/Physical environment that influences human settlement as opposed to a necessary factor of human settlements i.e. economics.

So therefore:

" It is relevant to note that if one simply scans the globe for all "white settler" populations outside of Europe, there is no doubt a correlation between the similarity of climate in the home country and the SIZE of the European settlers in that region.

sweetcheecks: You are an azz mofie! You must leave SA or stop spewing craap!

I do not live in your country, neither will I ever. I don't want to be a victim of unbridled xenophobia.

The OP's questions has been proven. Where would The Pseudo nation known as south Africa be without WHite settlers, just another African country. Maybe a Botswana if the Tribes were able to unite without any conflict

You guys are just spamming at this point until the MOD closes this thread out.

[quote author=1,2]So you Know lots of SA surnames. I won't be surprised if you stayed in Hillbrew or Sunnyside. You seem to. Know more about SA than your kak Nigeriaa[/quote]Never lived in those areas. Been there before to get some authentic Nigerian cuisine to fill my belly. Can't stand that spring bok meat. Awful.


Its simple deductive reasoning, thats how I know CraigB is mostly likely of British extract lives in Kwazulu natal and owns two passports,

PS no Afrikaaner would name their son with a first name like CRAIG.

They despise the british too much to do that.

CraigB: Ag shame - naai-gerians crying for their departed white colonisers?

Nooit man. Ag shame.

They shouldn't cry though. They do have black oppressors today. If it's any consolation.

The key word here is "settler" not "coloniser" my dear Durban Mukiwa.

Education!!!

paniki: Sorry bro, I don't buy the idea that a group of people move to a particular area, stay there for hundreds od years and then come to the realisation that the weather is not ayoba.

Colonisation was alll about economics. Whites settled in SA because they had already found all the resources. It's a pity that whites found your oil too late, nevertheless you still find plenty of whites in the oil rich regions of Nigeria. This has nothing to do with the weather, people will settle wherever money can be made regardless of the elements

You see why I say Bantu education is bad. Go back and re-discover the meaning of the term "settler colony".

1. You seem not to understand the implications of the Dutch east indian company's presence "exclusive" to the cape colony versus the British Imperial colonization of the same area, nor do you by any means want to acknowledge the fact that the would-be EUROPEAN migrants who followed suite were looking for an escape route out of europe mainly due to "religious persecution" and "taxation policies" in Europe. THese people became settlers.


The British were the true colonizers of South Africa and similar to most of their other colonies came to exploit natural resources and ship back to their Home countries, when their imperial power dwindled, they left each colony. The climate factor would be irrelevant to them inall instances because the idea was never to resettle british people while the opposite was the case for the so called Afrikaaner.

It is relevant to note that if one simply scans the globe for all "white settler" populations outside of Europe, there is no doubt a correlation between the similarity of climate in the home country and the size of the European settlers in that region.

All Uyi Iredia's contributing factors are pertinent, whether you subscribe to them or not

[quote author=1,2]White folks in SA, don't have any relatives in Europe. The only home they know, is SA. Remember, white South Africans have been in SA for over 400yrs, more than white Americans who have been there for 237yrs. When you say if they had left, left to where?[/quote]So much for you white folk who truly believe they are "African". Can you imagine the audacity!!!


[b]"HONORARY WHITES" is a term that was used by the apartheid regime of South Africa to grant almost all of the rights and privileges of whites to certain favoured non-white groups.


Japanese

The designation was applied to Japanese people (who were also once considered Honorary Aryans) in the 1960s to assist a trade pact formed between South Africa and Japan in the early 1960s, when Tokyo's Yawata Iron & Steel Co. offered to purchase 5,000,000 tons of South African pig iron, worth more than $250,000,000, over a ten-year period.[1] With such a huge deal in the works, Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd determined that it would be tactless and disadvantageous to their trade arrangements to subject the Japanese people to the same restrictions as other non-white ethnicities, since trade delegations from Japan would now regularly visit South Africa for business. Thenceforth, Pretoria's Group Areas Board publicly announced that all Japanese people would be considered white, at least for purposes of residence. Johannesburg's city officials even decided that "in view of the trade agreements" the municipal swimming pools would be open to all Japanese guests.[1] The designation gave Japanese almost all of the same rights and privileges as whites (except for the right to vote, as well as being exempt from conscription).

Chinese South Africans

The new designation granted to the Japanese seemed grossly unfair to South Africa's small Chinese community (roughly 7,000 at that time), who it seemed, would enjoy none of the new benefits given to the Japanese. As Time wrote:

If anything, we are whiter in appearance than our Japanese friends.' huffed one of Cape Town's leading Chinese businessmen. Demanded another indignantly: 'Does this mean that the Japanese, now that they are [considered] White, cannot associate with us without running afoul of the Immorality Act?'[1]

Chinese people could, however, sometimes benefit from passing as Japanese - at least at the swimming pools - because, as the chairman of the city council's Health and Amenities Committee stated, "It would be extremely difficult for our gatekeepers to distinguish between Chinese and Japanese".[1] In 1984, South African Chinese, now increased to about 10,000, finally obtained the same official rights as the Japanese in South Africa, that is, to be treated as whites in terms of the Group Areas Act.[2][3]

Other East Asians

Up until the abolition of apartheid, the "honorary white" status was eventually extended to people of other East Asian nationalities, including those from South Korea and Taiwan. The latter was due to the good and important relations between South Africa and Taiwan.[3][4]

Others

The "honorary white" status was also given to a number of special visitors belonging to other races, including:

Guyanese author E. R. Braithwaite - who wrote a scathing book Honorary White: Visit to South Africa[5] about his visit
Cricketers in the West Indian rebel team[6]
Players of Maori or Samoan backgrounds in the 1970 touring All Blacks rugby team[7][8]
Australian Aboriginal tennis player Evonne Goolagong[/b]

[quote author=1,2]White folks in SA, don't have any relatives in Europe. The only home they know, is SA. Remember, white South Africans have been in SA for over 400yrs, more than white Americans who have been there for 237yrs. When you say if they had left, left to where?[/quote]Hell yeah they have relatives there,

I am almost certain you can find the krugers, De Klerks, Bothas, Therons and most van der "somethings" in Europe today.

HAHAHAHA!!

paniki: Hahahaha, i see that Morpheus is not the only Naija who subscribes to this ridiculous hypothesis about the weather.

If you can't see the correlation between suitable weather conditions and White "settlements" around the world then you must be one of the dumbest people on earth.

Don't make yourself look stupid against Morpheus.


Bantu education is very very bad.

sweetcheecks: You have started again, when we respond you scream to your mods to come delete thread and ban us. I was banned on a thread in politics for answering these idioots. And they went to answering my posts when I could respond becouse that Ibo Afemeva banned me yet again.

Atleast I am not banned here. Let the games begin.

who send anyone to ban you.

You were banned because your mouth is too dirty which is what you wanna repeat here.

paniki: OK, goodnight.

see you tomorrow......

paniki: Do you know about a country called Lesotho?

What about it?

THe fact that the trekkers kicked their azz's too?

[quote author=Mthimbane.ZA]Don't speak 2 cents here, is the Zulu only tribe that exists in South Africa? I personally won't even try to dwell on anything Yoruba, Igbo, Fulani etc I'll leave that to Naijans, pliz I advice u not to embarass yourself.[/quote]And they still don't get it.

Lets just say ya'll were lucky the Trekkers kicked their azz's

davydenko18: The blacks are always fond of over emphasising on the past while leaving the relevance of today and the reality of the future. Let the past just be

In response to the above, never let anyone tell you what is relevant in your history nor tell you to forget about your past and look forward.

Who you are encompasses what you were and what you have been told. It is an important fact in shaping your future.

As far as the op's question. The AU is not a strong enough platform to address this issue. I believe the Descendants of the victims of this atrocity should assume the forefront for this particular issue.

shymexx: I believing the goal of NOI and Malcolm under NOI was for black pride and making black folks feel like they're part of something. I can draw a comparison between the ideology of NOI and the Five-percent nation under Clarence 13X. Yes, the end game wasn't as defined as Marcus Garvey's gospel. However, empowerment and empowering black people to stick together and fight against the oppressors did achieve a lot. The only thing I disagree with about NOI was the deifying of Fard Muhammad.

Yes, militarily there was no way they could have defeated America. However, I believe they wanted the continuation of the agreement Booker T. Washington signed, with other perks - and being treated as equal to white people.

I think Malcom also bought into the NOI warped ideology of a saviour Yacub coming down in a space ship to come rescue black people and take them away. THis belief was ubiquitous in the NOI, though we seldom heard it preached.

@poster

Will you take down this rubbish and go promote on your own website.

Imagine, because you dey with Naija man you wan claim!

paniki: They always miss these posts.

THe point being where would the pseudo African nation be without white people......."the kingdom of Azania" with everyone speaking Zulu

Been a fan of the Fast and Furious Franchise and luv'd "Brian's" character. It will not be the same without him in the next installment.

RIP