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kay9:
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Valar Likehris!


First off, I need to state that I'm becoming biased against the books as the show steadily moves into uncharted areas. 6 years is enough time already.

Yeah, "show" Dany and "books" Dany seem to be towing same path... for now. And yeah, Drogon will certainly have a hand in it, but he won't be alone. Remember Rhaegal and what'shisname are currently loose in Mereen, thanks to the Sun's Son.

I don't think Sansa is marrying Jon Arryn's get in the books. Littlefinger will kill the boy and secure the Vale for himself, then he'll try to marry Sansa himself. Show and books may differ in the details, but they'll both eventually arrive at same ending. Balon Greyjoy of the show is just a dead man walking Same goes for Stannis of the books.

I've deliberately avoided reading any of TWoW preview chapters - Asha Greyjoy's, Arianne's, or this 'Mercy' one - Grrrrrrrrrrr! Martin should just publish the book already.

Tyrion of the show isnt doing too badly if tou ask me. In fact me thinks he's doing way better than Tyrion of the books - who by the way will still end up in Dany's court.

If Young Griff was going to be on the show, he'd have been cast by now.

I never liked Areo Hotah of the show though... dude never seemed to me like he even knew how to handle that axe.

My predictions for the show: Dany's babies will raze Vaes Dothrak to the ground; Daario will turn his cloak; Jaime Lannister will not survive Season 6; Mellisandre will resurrect Jon Snow (but we all know that); Tyrion Lannister will be the third head of the dragon; and No One Named Arya will be on her way back to the Seven Kingdoms by the season's finale.

biased against d book hmmmm dats odd

D plan is 4 Sansa to marry harry d heir not Jon's get n Peter can't marry his bastard daughter

I bliv Stannis is far from dead as Ramsey is asking 4 Reek n fake Arya

Tyrion in d show is almost a joke

Y is Griff called d false Dragon

oluamid:
Well, its Wednesday already and by now most people would have seen the first episode of the new season. Okay, here are my talking points. Mind, I'll be talking based on what we are yet to see in the books but have seen on the show so this might be a kind of spoiler. Well, not really.


Where were we?

Miss Deanerys went flying off the back of Drogon and guess who found her in the Dothraki grass sea? Another Khal. Okay, me thinks this will likely be Deanerys' destiny in WoW as well, but with a lot more harshness. As a matter of fact, I expect her to suffer a lot of rapes. Fortunately (or not) Mr Bear-man Jorah Mormont wouldn't be chasing after her. Not that he is in any shape to do such, you know being as yet a Second son who is yet to turn his cloak and declare for the Mysa of dragons. Meanwhile, Mr fineboy Dario Naharis is too busy being a prisoner to have anything to do with it. That said, I think Deanerys will go to Vaes Dothrak to meet the the Dosh Kalen but will somehow turn the whole Dothraki horde to her worshippers and lead them back to Meereen and the stupid wise masters. I suspect Drogon will have something to do with this as well.


Oh Poor Jon Snow, he knows nothing - even dead.

Well, as far as we know, our favourite bastard is still dead. Given recent revelations (more on that later), do you think Melisandre is still the prime candidate to bring him back to life? Well, I'm neither here nor there but some small part of me says yes. What will be the fate of Ghost locked up as he is at Castle black without Jon? I know he's a direwolf but even a nice little sword with a 'pointy end' will kill him just like his brother Grey wind. And if you were a wildling somehere around Castle Black and Jon Snow is dead, what will you do? Besides, it remains to be seen what kind of reception Jane 'fake Arya' Poole will get if/when she finally arrives knocking at Castle Black. Well, lemme leave Jon Snow hanging for now.


Sansa fine girl.

We book readers know that the new episode has nothing on Sansa's character arch. So fingers crossed she marries Harry the heir and lead the Vale against Winterfell? Hmm, how will that work out sef. Mio mo oo.

The Stark beyond the Sea

Arya is my favourite Stark and I expect her training to continue. I want me some nice little assassin. Both in the show and in the books. What's more, she already shows promise with the murder she has done. Go and read the Mercy chapter folks.


Tyrion

I don't even know what to make of the rubbish (IMO) the show is doing to Tyrion in Meereen. I love a sellsword Tyrion over a ruling Tyrion joor. Especially with Penny always ready to spring some surprise kiss on him in his mismatched armour. Lest I forget, he's currently in the middle of a war so no time for kisses. I don't want to be in his shoe when he finally has to pay back his debt to Brown Ben Plumm and the rest of the sons.


Why has Aegon (murmer's dragon?), and the Griff, not appeared on the show? Gendry anyone?

Hopefully the Lannisters will start dying soon. As for Dorne, the less said about all that trash about the sand snakes the better. Which day Ellaria sand start to dey get that kind of skills or cunning to kill Doran Martel? How did the almighty Areo Hotah just fall hand like that without getting to even lift his axe in protest? Yeye dey smell.

The most interesting part of the episode for me was the last part where Mellisandre bamboozle all of us. Was she an old woman all along even in the books all was that just a show gimmick? Or were they trying to have their own King beyond the wall 'glamour' moment? Questions galore.

I'll definetely have more to say subsequently. For now, I'll like to hear what you guys think too... Valar Morghulis!

lol wildling fate with Jon gone won't really change else twil b a war d Night watch can't win

Sansa marching to winterfel most unlikely first she'll have to slay a monster, handle d clans n consider which King or Queen to back

Except Arya breaks off on her own she ain't heading to Kingslanding anytime soon

As 4 fake Arya she'll soon b discovered if not she belongs in d north

Tyrion paying his debt is one to look out 4 dats if he can find d gold or if d second sons survive d sea n many battles to come

Since Mel is more powerful at d wall bringing Jon back shouldn't b difficult n from dreams we know Jon may well survive
Valar Dohaeris

oluamid:
Little Finger is one of the real players of the Game of Thrones. He's trying to prove that even a small unimportant man can rise to become the greatest man in the 7 Kingdoms. He sees himself sited on the Iron Throne one day. A way of getting back at Hoster Tully, I guess. Anyways,he encouraged Joffery to kill Ned in order to bring the realm into war and to further the enmity between Stark and Lannister which he began by helping Joffery to hire an assassin to kill Bran. He also does it as a way of taking out the man who later got the hand of his beloved Catelyn. Besides, you don't expect a freed Ned Stark to easily forget how he was betrayed with the Goldcloaks.

It's either Syrio Forel has an exaggerated measure of his own swordsmanship or he knows he's not expected to kill one of the Kingsguard and go scot-free. Remember there was no way he could have known that Starks men were being killed and that it would be a fight to the death. Besides, he already succeeded in knocking the other knights senseless with his wooden sword.

Did Little Finger really encouraged the poisoning of Jon? If he did, it would be just another way to ingratiate himself with Cersei who he knows hates the Starks a lot and bastards even more so. Besides, so long as a son of Eddard Stark is alive (even if he was a bastard) the north would follow him which may pose another hurdle to Little Finger's ambitions of ruling the 7 kingdoms.

Cerci didn't know I think he did it to draw Stark out

kay9:
It is obvious now, GRRM has become a lazy slob who is slowly but steadily drowning in his own success. His last major published work, A Dance with Dragons, was in 2011 - and even that took him almost 6 years! Since then, na so so anthology, comic abi illustrated book, or some slightly regurgitated story from the Targaryen dynasty. Personally I've given up on him. Thank God for D & D, at least i can have closure whenevr the TV series ends.

Asoiaf is a tale so well spun GrM shud take all the time he needs
Blending stories from 100s of years ago and seeing into d future via dreams n prophecy Plus having over 10 countries with details n still expanding I'm glad he's not rushing @all twil b worth d wait