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obadiah777: OK SEEING AS THAT VERSE WENT ABOVE YOUR HEAD LETS SEE IF YOU CAN BREAK DOWN THIS SIMPLER VERSE LUKE 9 VS 23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

Sire they will not see it, thier hearts are hardend against the Lord and his prophets

They deny heaven on earth just so they can continue living in LAWLESSNESS

Sal C: Losing ones life for the sake of christ simply mean believing in God, following christ even if it means dying for his sake. It doesn't mean that a follower of Christ shouldn't earn a living in a proper way while on earth.

Again your will be done on earth as it is in heaven does not mean heaven will be on earth.


For instance if a decree made by obama becomes also effective in Nigeria,does it mean USA is in Nigeria?


How did you get the concept of your own elect?.

Are you saying the kingdom of heaven not an earthly kingdom?

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a VAIN thing

alienvirus: You are a Maalu.

Na you get your mouth.

dougivilla: Psalm 103:11 NIV: For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him;

Isiah 55:9 For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so are my ways from your ways and my thoughts from yours

Is it the heaven that is higher than the earth that is now on earth? Try some other kinda lies bro!

Which one of the heavens do you speak of?

Study to show yourself approved.

obadiah777: YES HEAVEN IS ON EARTH . MATTHEW 6 VS 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven

Say on prophet!!

Sal C: Kai Lord Obadiah777 Matt 10vs39 is clearly talking about martyrdom nah.




Revelation vs 7?
The elect are all men according to your quotation and you still say heaven is on earth?

Happy new month joor.

Are you implying there are no men in heaven?

obadiah777: POIGNANT VERSES SIRE. TRUST THE WEEKEND WAS COOL.

Real cool Sire.

I trust yours was as well.

obadiah777: MATTHEW 10 VS 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it <<< YUP THATS EXACTLY WHAT AM SAYING. HEAVENLY CONNECTED AND EARTH USELESS ( KEEP IN MIND HEAVEN WOULD BE ON EARTH )
AND THERE ARE NO ELECT WOMEN. IN THE KINGDOM THEIR WILL BE ORDER. WOMEN WILL RULE THE CHILDREN AND OTHER WOMEN. THE ELECT ARE ALL MEN ( REVELATION VERSE 7 )

GBOSA for the bolded Sire.

Its a very bitter pill to swallow for some.

obadiah777: AHHH BUT YOU DONT KNOW HISTORY. THE WHITE MANS COUNTRY IS THE CAUCUS MOUNTAINS GEORGIA RUSSIA. EVERYTHING ELSE HE CONQUERED AND TOOK INCLUDING EUROPE. EUROPE BELIEVE IT OR NOT BELONGED TO BLACK PEOPLE

They dont like reading Sire

They all wanna believe the white mans LIE.

otipoju: Someone once said that "the bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction"...the verity of those words are manifest on this thread... There is a thin line between eisegesis-using isolated bible verses to support your pre-concieved ideas, and exegesis-trying to understand the meaning of the words themselves comparing scripture with scripture to make a meaningful whole...I for sey make I talk many things, but something tells me it would be a waste of precious time. The wise ones will understand.

Waste of time?

Breaking bread can never be a waste of time.

noblefada: You're funny u just quoted a verse Paul actually from the old testament n if u do a study on that verse it didn't mean as hate as the negative, but God choosing Jacob instead of Esau. The hate was a matter of choice. Pls study more.

Rev 2:6 But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate. 7He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit said to the churches; To him that overcomes will I give to eat of the tree of life.

There are certain things that the father hates.

Study to show yourself approved.

obadiah777: AND FROM THE VERSE YOU QUOTED IT TELLS YOU THOSE WHO FOLLOW DENOMINATIONS ARE CARNAL AKA WORSHIPPERS OF MEN AINT THAT WHAT I SAID ? THERE IS NO DENOMINATION IN SCRIPTURES. DENOMINATIONS IS MAN MADE GARBAGE.

Its clearly written there Sire.

Carnal.

obadiah777: TRUST THE SABBATH IS GOING GOOD SIRE

Cool tins my lord.

[quote author=obadiah777]AHHH BUT YOU ERR. THIS IS NOT FAVORING ONE OVER THE OTHER. THIS IS INCLUSIVITY VIA EXCLUSIVITY. HE WORKS WITH A FEW TO GET TO THE REST. HOWEVER HE HAS ESTABLISHED IT NOW UNDER THIS CURRENT REGIME ( THE ERA OF THE GENTILES )THAT IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE CLUB OF THE 'INCLUSIVITY' YOU CAN, ANYONE CAN, THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS SLOWLY CLOSING THOUGH. ONCE THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS CLOSED THEN THERE WILL BE TWO CLEAR CUT FACTIONS FOREVER. THE INSIDE MEN WHO WILL BE THE LORDS PORTION AND THEN THE OUTSIDE MEN WHO HAVE TO TAKE ORDERS FROM THE INSIDE MEN. SO THIS AINT NOTHING TO DO WITH PREFERENCE.

AND THE WHOLE WORLD, INCLUDING THE REPROBATES WHO DO NOT MAKE IT, WILL BE BEQUEATHED TO THE NEW HEAVEN, THE NEW ISRAEL THAT IS. I CANT THINK OF A MORE GREATER INHERITANCE THAN THAT WHILE YOU ARE EXCITED ABOUT BEING BEQUEATHED SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AND WRITING LOL

LETS COMPARE >>> INHERIT OWNERSHIP OF THE EARTH OR INHERIT WRITINGS AND SCIENCE ? NO COMPARISM BRO [/quote


Say On Prophet!!!

obadiah777: INSANE PERSON IS ALREADY IN HELL

True talk Sire.

ezme: Is this Kingdom already in place or it is to come?

For the elect the kingdom is aready here.

For others it is yet to come


And for the likes of shidemmi and dougvilla the kingdom is a farce and will never come (these ones say they must [b]EXPERIENCE PHYSICAL DEATH [/b]to go to heaven)

obadiah777: NOW DOES THAT SHOCK YOU LITERAL INTERPRETERS OF THE BIBLE ?

GALATIANS 4 VS 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children <<<< ALLEGORICAL STORY TO REPRESENT THE TWO COVENANTS. ONE OF BONDAGE UNDER THE LAW AND THE OTHER OF FREEDOM WHEN THE LAW IS WRITTEN IN YOUR INWARD PARTS IN THE SECOND COMING

The 3 characters mentioned are literal first, primarily because of the geneology of yashua

I say first because secondly they also represent symbolically those under bondage and those under grace.

Give thanks for the revelation of the word allegory in the quoted verse there Sire, I am sure most people have overlooked it as well.

ezme: The location and nature of this Kingdom of Heaven

1. The Location of this kingdom as I have intimated to you before is The physical earth

If your question is refering to the exact location on earth then my answer is the African continent.

2. As to the nature of this kingdom we can say the kingdom history and prophecy state that the messanaic kingdom is THEOCRATIC by nature.

By theocracy we mean the farther standing as priest and king in the human family with the most high God over us all (Just as moses intimated/requested in the torah)

olire: F.uck, you gys hav finally derailed this thread. pls turn back to the topic wen you don't have bull shit to say again.

Derail ke?

You are not even the owner of the thread, let the OP speak out for himself.

There were others who responded positively and without prejudice even if they did not totally agree with I.

Let me say it again you Mr man are a Facist P*g

olire: *bored; yawns* anoda silly excuse to defend your OLODONESS

LWTMB true

I am not on the defensive here, why should I be

Thats all you could come up with??

E be like say confusion don catch you.

Anyways na you get your mouth.

obadiah777: WELL DAYUMMM THIS WAS A SPANKING IF I EVER SAW ONE. AFTER RECIEVING A POST LIKE THIS, IF I WERE YOU OLIRE, I WOULD JUST JUMP INTO RIVER NIGER WITH CEMENT TIED AROUND MY NECK

LWKM O

obadiah777: DROP THE TRUTH PROPHET MOST HIGH

Dougvilla needs to flogged with koboko for 7 days and 7 nights.

LWTMB true.

Probably the only way to try and initiate a change in perspective/Heart.

obadiah777: WELL DAYUMMM THIS WAS A SPANKING IF I EVER SAW ONE. AFTER RECIEVING A POST LIKE THIS, IF I WERE YOU OLIRE, I WOULD JUST JUMP INTO RIVER NIGER WITH CEMENT TIED AROUND MY NECK

But most folks never learn.

Top of the morning to you Sire.

ezme: your response



I went further to say



Your response



...Now I would like you to talk about this kingdom of Heaven?

What exactly would you like to know?

Just so we are on point.

dougivilla: i thought you guys had non literal interpretations for every scripture?.

How come its only this your heaven on earth lie-lie that does'nt have a special dpi(Demonic private interpretation)? Smh!

The bolded is a lie, but then its no suprise seeing your father is the father of all liars

Would you rather the intepretation was non literal, and had a demonic Private interpretation whatever that is?

You just love hearing your own voice abi? Narcisstic fellow

Sounds like you have been busy going through all interpretations of obadiah and the mosthigh.

Good for you, but I doubt it will make any impact on your life.

Finally because your conciousness cannot accept a heaven on earth, it does not mean that a heaven on earth shall not manifest.

Son of the Devil.

dougivilla: Where are the enemies of truth?? Where obadiah777? Where mosthigh?

Enemies of truth?

More like 2 faithfull witnesses.

Go figure.

olire: silly excuse for your deceit:p if you can't defend ur fallacies, please carry your LOAD OF LIES and leave dis thread. You weren't INVITED.

Didnt know it was by invitation only

Also talking about invitation like that in an online forum makes you sounds like facist garbage.

Anyone hearing you speak would think you have given an intepretation that has edified us all.

And the truth is that you have not But instead you chose to bath in ignorance

There is nothing to defend.

The truth speaks for itself and needs none to defent it.

You on the other hand will leave this incarnation still ignorant of your true purpose because of your SILLY PRIDE.

olire: well my bible tells me that in the last days there will be false prophets, who will decieve, even the elect, the only way to bust them is if the contradict the word . OGA WAT are all these; please show me in da bible where GOG became Russia. And where nukes were mentioned.

For how long will you be asking to be shown wonderful things.

Big man there is as much as the prophet can show you.

Sometimes you need to figure things out for yourself

Study to show yourself approved.

ezme: So we can both agree that we are already in Heaven, right?

Correction 1st heaven.

Which is completely different from the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

doubleDx: So you are saying God only exist in our minds?


How can a righteous God live in the heart/mind of a man, when the good book says =>

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

I need some help with that Mr. MOSTHIGH funny name btw

Correction God exists in our hearts quite different from mind Sire


Another correction would be that not all hearts are desperately wicked (That like saying Yashua and his disciples had desperately wicked hearts)

But on the contrary they had hearts that were completely consecrated unto the most high God hence their hearts were a perfect dwelling place for God An ideal THRONE if you may.

Psalm 51 ....... take no thy holy spirit from me

If your heart is true to him then there he will sit as his THRONE and if indeed he is fixed on the thone in your heart then as surely as you walk the earth the earth is surely his footstoll

A very subtle notion to theosis as opposed to apotheosis

ezme: Where exactly is the heaven where those who would be rewarded with eternal life reside?

That Would be the first heaven AKA terrestrial AKA mother earth.

obadiah777: WELCOME TO THE PARTY BROTHER. I HAVE BEEN HERE BATTLING REPROBATES AND SCOFFERS AND PHARISEES AND SADDUCCEES SINCE YESTERDAY

Sire I dey see the postings its clear that the people die for lack of knowledge.