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Goshen360: Can you see how you mocking and making a fool of yourself on the world wide web? First, it is:

and YOU CANNOT SHOW JUST A SINGLE SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS STONE = DOCTRINE. I further gave you another opportunity to humble yourself and amend your ways on things you says on the Holy Scriptures, this is what you came up with again,



Now it is TURNING STONE TO BREAD! Where is STONE = DOCTRINE + STONE = BREAD? Show us (everybody on this world wide forum) scriptures where STONES = DOCTRINE OR STONE = BREAD?

PhenomenonVFX: His denomination is The Church of Eternal Drug Delusion. Their place of worship is a loony bin and their pastors put on a straitjacket. They read their English bibles upside down and the words inside are written by starting the sentence from the right to the left. The bible is also laced with powdered Crystal Meth so that when u flip d pages, u take a whiff and get high on it.

noblefada: Pls just answer the question, where do u guys worship, fellowship or meet? what is the name of ur church?

Goshen360: Young man, I have a day job and you failed if you trying to follow me on every thread. I will answer at my own convenient time when I'm free. You have nothing to say than insult. I'm used to your same insult. By the way, na your Oga (obadiah777) I follow get talk, no be you at all. You hear!

olire: am i lying? Aren't you his disciple or should i pity u and say "rite hand man":p

olire: hey gys!!! This is Obadiah's henchman, he also deserves da sword.

Goshen360: It does make sense and I will show scriptures towards the fact that it makes sense later. You may want to go get other things done cos I will reply very late today.

Goshen360: I don't ever quote the old testament when it suits me. NEVER! I am under a new and better covenant. We don't stone people to death under our new covenant neither do we kill by the sword. Let's talk the new testament if you care @ plaetton.

plaetton: Pure baloney!
When cornered with the absurdity of Yahweh's conduct and the clear dichotomy between the old testament Yahweh and the nameless invisible skydaddy of the new testament, you easily jettison the old testament.
And when it serves your purpose, you quote the same old testament.

Your statement that god threatened and showed anger towards the nation of Israel and not to the church is one of most ridiculous and infantile statements a person can make.
In other words, yahweh, aka, god, can show anger at the Israelites, but not at the church?.

Show us exactly, in both scripture and Israelite history, when Yahweh transformed from the vengeful and wrathful god of Israel, to the loving and merciful god of the man-made church.

And if indeed such a transformation did take place, does that not diminish Yahweh's omni omniness, for a god who is said to be the same yesterday, today and forever?


Is the church not a man-made structure?
Where, in the bible, does Yahweh mention his love and preference for church, over his inherited nation of Israel?
Where did Jesus tell you that Church is to be the new Israel?

Before and during the life of Jesus, there was no such thing as the church, so how could Jesus have encouraged the building of something that had no prior existence?

The church is something that came into existence very long after the life of Jesus by those who sought to build a religion on is name.

PhenomenonVFX: His denomination is The Church of Eternal Drug Delusion. Their place of worship is a loony bin and their pastors put on a straitjacket. They read their English bibles upside down and the words inside are written by starting the sentence from the right to the left. The bible is also laced with powdered Crystal Meth so that when u flip d pages, u take a whiff and get high on it.

PhenomenonVFX: Goshen is really schooling this Obadiah dude.

Goshen360: Why is it hard for you to prove what you say from\with scriptures but you rather result to name calling. Just address my question not my person. Again,

Goshen360: ^ I'm not gonna derail my brother's thread. I will have time and start a thread for you and me on this law and lawlessness issue you always come up with. Meanwhile, I leave you alone because you don't even understand the scripture I gave you. Lemme leave you not to derail this thread.

Alfa Seltzer: Nahum 1:2-6

2 The Lord is a jealous and avenging God;
the Lord takes vengeance and is filled with wrath.
The Lord takes vengeance on his foes
and vents his wrath against his enemies.
3 The Lord is slow to anger but great in power;
the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished.
His way is in the whirlwind and the storm,
and clouds are the dust of his feet.
4 He rebukes the sea and dries it up;
he makes all the rivers run dry.
Bashan and Carmel wither
and the blossoms of Lebanon fade.
5 The mountains quake before him
and the hills melt away.
The earth trembles at his presence,
the world and all who live in it.
6 Who can withstand his indignation?
Who can endure his fierce anger?
His wrath is poured out like fire;
the rocks are shattered before him.

Alfa Seltzer: The bible is very clear about what should be done to false prophets. Majority of christians here accept that:
1 - Obadiah777 is a false prophet.
2 - Biblical commands must be obeyed.

Here is what the bible said about false prophets.

Deuteronomy 18:20

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

Jeremiah 14:15

15 Therefore this is what the Lord says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not send them, yet they are saying, ‘No sword or famine will touch this land.’ Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.

Zechariah 13:3

3 And if anyone still prophesies, their father and mother, to whom they were born, will say to them, ‘You must die, because you have told lies in the Lord’s name.’ Then their own parents will stab the one who prophesies.

JUST AS YOUR FATHER KILLED THE PROPHETS BEFORE YOU ALSO.

Children of Lawlessness


In the light of these injunctions by God Almighty, what is Obadiah777 still doing alive?

JUST AS YOUR FATHER KILLED THE PROPHETS BEFORE YOU ALSO.

Children of Lawlessness

Alfa Seltzer: The bible is very clear about what should be done to false prophets. Majority of christians here accept that:
1 - Obadiah777 is a false prophet.
2 - Biblical commands must be obeyed.

Here is what the bible said about false prophets.

Deuteronomy 18:20

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

Jeremiah 14:15

15 Therefore this is what the Lord says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not send them, yet they are saying, ‘No sword or famine will touch this land.’ Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.

Zechariah 13:3

3 And if anyone still prophesies, their father and mother, to whom they were born, will say to them, ‘You must die, because you have told lies in the Lord’s name.’ Then their own parents will stab the one who prophesies.

JUST AS YOUR FATHER KILLED THE PROPHETS BEFORE YOU ALSO.

Children of Lawlessness


In the light of these injunctions by God Almighty, what is Obadiah777 still doing alive?

Goshen360: King James Bible
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
2 Corinthians 5:16

Goshen360: Shut up! Everything you and Obadiah777 want to call and interpret as doctrine. You both are making a mess of the word of God. Obadiah777 just said on the other thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/1357800/confusing-scripture-broken-down-thread



How many things will mean the same thing for you guys without showing corresponding scriptures that parallels with your interpretations? You guys are just bastardizing the holy scriptures and making a rubbish of the word of God. Now, show me\us from scriptures where STONE = DOCTRINE.

Goshen360: ^ @ MostHigh,

If you're not satisfied with the Aramaic I quoted up there and you still have excuses, kindly come up with your own Aramaic verse and let's see those scriptures flying in our eyes. Thank you.

Goshen360: Here I come!

You should have started your explanation from verse 26 of Acts chapter 8 and therein I start from:

26And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

27And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

28Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

29Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

30And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

32The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

33In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

34And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

So what do we have here? An eunuch reading from the book of prophet Isaiah and doesn't know\understand the prophetic meaning of the SCRIPTURES he was reading; asking Phillip if that prophet Isaiah was talking about himself or someone else. Phillip then explained the prophetic scriptures that it was talking about Jesus, verse 34-35 using the same SCRIPTURES THE EUNUCH WAS READING.




When did "as they went on their way" became "as they went further into scriptures"? Do you have scriptures that parallels or converts "as they went their way" INTO "as they went further into scriptures"? When the eunuch was reading scriptures, THE BIBLE MADE IT CLEAR NOT SPEAKING IN TONGUES THAT HE WAS READING SCRIPTURES FROM THE BOOK OF ISAIAH THE PROPHET and as they went there way...that is, going further in their journey, they came unto a certain water no longer scriptures because scriptures had ALREADY BEING EXPLAINED TO THE EUNUCH ABOUT JESUS, THE SAME SCRIPTURES HE WAS READING (verse 35) and he, the eunuch now believes according to verse 37, waiting to be baptized and engrafted into the BODY OF CHRIST TO BE ONE OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST OF CHRIST. He didn't say "look,there's a certain SCRIPTURES" BUT A CERTAIN WATER. Scriptures means scriptures and water means water unless the context says otherwise!



Where in that scriptures did Phillip told him IF HE BELIEVED IN JESUS WITH ALL HIS HEART, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND AND BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES.? Where? Show me\us. He simple said if you believe. The context had already said he preach Jesus to him and now is time to believe what was preached to him about Jesus NOT BELIEVE SO THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES. What is the believe meant for in water baptism AS THEY SAW WATER AND WANTED TO BAPTIZE THE EUNUCH?

Jesus Himself laid this foundation for the Apostles: Mark 16:15-16, BELIEVE AND BE BAPTIZED! What is the believe based on? Preaching of Christ! And that was exactly what Phillip did, he preached Christ to the man (verse 35) and the man believed (verse 37) and now, that they saw water, he believes nothing should stop him from being baptized. Further references: Acts 10:43; Acts 8:12



You make a rubbish of yourself when you try to bastardize scriptures! Since you interpreted verse 36 and 37 that they went into the scriptures and the eunuch said what stops him from understanding the scriptures and Phillip said only if he believes, the eunuch can interpret scriptures THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE ALSO TOLD US HOW THEY STOPPED THE CHARIOT IN THE SCRIPTURE YOU SAID THE EUNUCH WOULD BE ABLE TO INTERPRET WAS MADE TO STAND STILL OR STOPPED OR YOU TELL US HOW THE CHARIOT WAS STOPPED OR MADE TO STAND STILL WHEN THEY BOTH WENT DEEP INTO THE SCRIPTURES AS PHILIP TAUGHT HIM SO MANY SCRIPTURES. because the verse says, "he commanded the chariot to stand still". Why would the chariot be commanded to stand still if they were not in a journey according to verse 36, "as they went their ways"? So tell us what chariot was made to stand still IN THE SCRIPTURES YOU SAID WAS BEING TAUGHT DEEPER TO THE EUNUCH.



Did it say when they FINISHED THE LESSON? What lesson? When did lesson = water or when did coming out of water = coming out of lesson? The scriptures parallels baptism with water and it says, they both WENT INTO THE WATER since the eunuch believes and said what stops him from being baptized? Baptism is an act of being buried with Christ and dying to the old nature in burial and the rising with Christ unto new life.

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:3-4

The Spirit of the Lord that caught away Philip is a manifestation of SIGNS and WONDERS that follows to confirm the message of his servants...God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? Hebrews 2:4. Since you said they were digging deep into the scriptures and not literal water for baptism, why would the Spirit take one and leave the other since they both NOW UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES YOU SAID THEY WERE LEARNING?

Goshen360: Waiting for Olaadegbu and his offspring, Bidam and perhaps, other Judaizers will come also.

shdemidemi: @ oladegbu

How many of your kids have you stoned to death so far.. Does you bible start and end in the old testament?

Goshen360: We all know you will always come out to support your #2 I.D even if he makes heretic statements and you just proved that. I will deal with both of you to the end of this thread.

Goshen360: We all know you will always come out to support your #2 I.D even if he makes heretic statements and you just proved that. I will deal with both of you to the end of this thread.

PhenomenonVFX: Actually he isnt MostHigh. I used to think he was and once accused him of it too. Until I stumbled on an earlier thread were their view seem to differ a bit and they were arguing about the difference. Although one quickly conceded to the other, I think the one did so because they both know they are alone in this section of NL and they need each other to spread and perpetuate their delusion; some sort of mutual infection. Since then I have noticed they dont agree on everything so they have to be different people.
At least that is what I hope is happening or else this MostHigh/Obadiah777 phenomenon has got to be the worst case of schizophrenia I have yet seen; a kind that continues even on an electronic platform like the internet.
I actually prefer the schizophrenia. I cringe just thinking that there are more people like Obadiah out there. It gives me goosebumps.

obadiah777: OK NOW I GOT TIME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION COMPREHENSIVELY. SO WHAT IT IS YOU ARE THINKING IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING. LETS START WITH VERSE 35

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. PHILIP START TELLING HIM ABOUT JESUS

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? AND AS THEY WENT FURTHER INTO SCRIPTURES THEY CAME UPON A CERTAIN SCRIPTURE, AND THE EUNUCH SAID 'SEE THIS SCRIPTURE HERE, WHAT PREVENTS ME FROM UNDERSTANDING IT ?'

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. AND PHILIP TOLD HIM IF HE BELIEVED IN JESUS WITH ALL HIS HEART, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND AND BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES. AND HE SAID, I BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD'

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. AND THE EUNUCH STOPPED HIS CARRIAGE. AND THEY BOTH WENT DEEP INTO THE SCRIPTURES AND PHILIP TAUGHT HIM SO MANY SCRIPTURES.

39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. AND WHEN THEY FINISHED THE LESSONS, THE SPIRIT MOVED PHILIP TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY TO GO PREACH TO OTHER PEOPLE AND THE EUNUCH SAW HIM NO MORE AFTER THAT AND HE WENT ON HIS WAY HAPPY THAT HE HAD RECIEVED PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCRIPTURES FROM PHILIP

40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea. MEANWHILE PHILIP WAS IN AZOTUS PREACHING AND HE ALSO PREACHED IN SO MANY OTHER CITIES TILL HE CAME TO CAESAREA

AND THERE YOU HAVE IT. NOTHING MAGICAL OR DISSAPEARING ACT HAPPENED

obadiah777: YUP LIKE I SAID EARLIER HUN, SETI AND ALL THEM GUYS IS ALL TALK AND NO ACTION. ITS A FAD. THE CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY THING IS A FAD. ONLY JUSTICE YOU ARE GOING TO GET IS IN THE LORD. YOU CANT FIGHT THE MAN WHOM THE LORD HAS ORDAINED ( THE WHITE MAN ) TO WHOOP YOUR BUTT. THATS LIKE FIGHTING THE LORD. YOU WAIT ON THE LORD TO CALL HIS DOGS OFF AND TO ANNIHILATE HIS DOGS FOR OVERSTEPPING THEIR BOUNDS AND FOR DERELICT OF DUTIES AND USING THE POWER TO ACQUIRE THE WORLDS WEALTH AND POWER. THATS WHAT YOU DO.

frosbel: NDE and OBE experiences are dangerous and demonic, you have been reading too many of Ola's satanic visions from hell and heaven.

Read the word bro, ask God for more and more wisdom, his word is nourishing , nurturing and precious when studied with the help of the anointing.

Flee from all occultic experiences, focus on JESUS.

Maybe we should start a bible study group on Nairaland ?

obadiah777: YOU ARE FELLOWSHIPPING WITH ME RIGHT NOW ONLINE YOU FELLOWSHIP ONLINE NOW. FELLOWSHIPPING IS NOT A FORMAL MATTER. ITS JUST TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT GOD. CAN BE ANYWHERE OR THROUGH ANY MEDIUM. IT IS EASIER TO SIFT THROUGH THE CHARLATANS ONLINE AND THEN YOU FORM YOUR GROUP OF FELLOWSHIP PEOPLE. THERE ARE MANY ONLINE FORUMS TOO. HOWEVER CHURCHES ? THATS PART OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST. THE ROMAN EMPIRE STARTED THAT.

mmark12: you are a sick looney tune. WW3 Armageddon seeker

Idi Amin: another confused soul. Obadiah777 incarnate

Sal C: I pity you.

How different is your post from what I've been saying?

I am not an advocate of fraudulent em massing of wealth. Or did you not read my posts?
I said earning a living the proper way. So if you like sit right under your roof and wait for manner to fall for you from heaven.
Even apostle Paul was a tent maker while preaching the gospel.