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Ijustwantto:
Exactly! It's hard to choose because na both dey give me joy.
Na dribbling I love pass for ball. Not all dis yeye players nowadays that can't dribble two players except few of them
I still go back to watch Ronaldinho on YouTube sometimes and I go be like "so there are times like dis"

Football is now boring bro. Wingers no Sabi dribble again. Everything is now bland. Yamal is still trying sha.

Spy360:
You dey compare 16yo Yamal that is still growing?

Bros, if there was a way to bulk up Vieira to become like Adama Traore e for don happen since. What I am saying is that nutrition and exercise can add 10-20kg max. If you are 60kg it will take you to 80max with serious effort o. To play football at top level you have to be about 100kg.

I am a science man myself. I live in a lab. So I cannot underestimate science.

Arteta and Edu specifically stated they don't want Vieira to bulk up. I posted the news here sometimes back. The reasons he has not really find his spot here is due to his recent injuries and the fact that he has not really shown any spark in training.

There has been a noticeable change in Yamal since he made his debut bro. Diet definitely contributed to this.

Spy360:
For me Duberry is foolish to leave. I mean there is a big hole in the team (a backup for Saka) that has not been filled and the club may be considering him and yet he wants to leave. Mumu. Where will he go self? Highest he will join Forrest and after two seasons max they will be relegated. Saka that they are envying had to start at left back.

Arsenal that can afford a 50m backup will not miss him at all.

He is not foolish please. If Duberry is my brother, I would give him the same advice. He has two wingers ahead of him and Arsenal is still being linked to another winger. Maybe he should have waited a bit but I wouldn't call him foolish for leaving.

Just that he should have signed a new contract and request for a loan move. At least build something on loan and find a good club to join.

chuks404:
if you appear on the papers tomorrow that you defrauded people of their fortunes, what will be your response?
The body language of Finidi not disputing those rumours says it all. No matter how you look at it finidi caused this mess. Yes osihmen response wasn't pretty but the press was making merry of that issue.its enough to make him angry. Or you think if osihmen lied he would care? Even most of us here nailed osimhen before his rants on social media. You will not tell me that Finidi didn't see those statements on papers. What was his response?. Baba it's disheartening esp when there was a genuine reason to miss the match. Who plays more with passion in this current supereagles than osihmen?abeg make una rest this case. Finidi messed up also. He didn't play the father figure.

If he had come out to clarify himself, would you believed him?

From reports, NFF asked him about the lacksaidal attitude of some players. He said he can't beg anybody to play and that if he disciplined them, some people at the helm of affairs would raise an eyebrow. People who were here said he didn't mention any name. Wetin una wan make Finidi do again?

Some people just like dragging issue. What we want to know is, has it been proven that Finidi made such statement?

And let me clarify that most people condemning Osimhen are actually concerned about his brand and status rather than whatever issue he had with Finidi.

A whole king of Naples and African footballer of the year talking like agbero online. Especially when you factor in the fact that he is in transfer speculations and the way clubs frown on indiscipline.

Jodera:
I never knew Tella and Ajayi was arsenal academy Sha


For all of them, they person wey I hear him hype wella, he was dubbed the next fabregas. Gideon Zelalem.

Before I close eye open am, I shock say him don dey USA league .

Omorr, football no easy sha. All these footballer wey make am(esp from Africa) suppose deh thank God everyday.

Zelalem struggled with injury sha... I don't know how he managed to end up in US.
Another one I like then was Merida. We got him from Barca but he didn't live up to expectations.

See eh, we had exciting talents in the academy then.

Nomyth:
They said own goal has been the highest goal scorer at the Euros.

6 own goals so far.

And Mbappe get mind talk say Euro is bigger than World cup.

If not for hype, the just concluded AFCON >>>

do4luv14:
chaiii, no be king of nipples again??

Bahd guy

Spy360:
The likes of Nelson, Trossard, Kiwior, etc needed playing time. Others like ESR, Partey, Jesus that got injured and recovered needed playing time to gain full fitness. The team itself needed more minutes to blend with each other. There was no way Arteta was going to leave all these for academy players that don't want to wait for their time. Very soon now after the Euros, clubs will begin preseason training and friendlies. That's a good time to prove to the manager that he can be a good backup.

Forget some of these academy players know that they can't challenge the senior boys and so may want to leave. If they believe in themselves let them stay and convince the coach. No matter how stubborn you think the Coach is, one day he will need you and call you to warm up. That's how Trossard started seeing games ahead of Martinelli and Kiwior ahead of Zinchenko etc. Even Deschamps had no choice but to invite Saliba even if it means playing him out of his usual position.

Dubbery and Ethan were regularly training with the senior team this past season. Duberry was attached to Saka and Ethan was attached to Odegaard. Reason why it seemed Ethan and Ode played similarly when the former came as sub against WestHam. That should convey some intent right?

Dubbery did the right thing by moving on. I wish him well in his career.

Spy360:
The bolded are surprising to me.

Oh...you didn't know they played for Arsenal? They were released sha

Jodera:
Lmaoo...
I once listened to a podcast of Kevin Prince Boateng that once played for Barca. He said he pitied youngsters of Barca during his time especially those who wanted to break into the first team. That Messi would just do basic training routines without putting much work and can eat what he wants and if you give him the ball, Viola!, that's how he'll be dribbling everybody like cones
Malcom and Dembele were looking at Messi and doing like that(that is not putting much effort in training even though they're very talented) and it's sure it's the reason they haven't reached the height people expect from them.

He went on to say as a footballer, he loves Messi more than Ronaldo and believes Messi is better than him but he'll advise any young player who wants to make it in football (both in consistency and fitness) to look at Ronaldo cos Messi is a very bad model in that aspect.

And if you look at it, it's true. Check all the players who their football idol are Cr7— Like footballers who strictly follow Cr7's discipline to a large extent, they hardly go injury. From Mbappe to Saka to Haaland (these are 3 that I've read their story and can remember off my head for now). Hardly you'll hear any of these guys having recurrent injuries or one kinda long lay offs consistently. No be jazz dem dey use.

If you look at Cr7 nutrition you go run
Evra said he once visited his home and that's the last time he'll ever visit it. No wines, no drinks. Chicken that he was served was just plain boiled white chicken (ie, it wasn't spiced or sauced at all. Just boiled in hot water and brought out)
And immediately he finished eating, Ronaldo said they should go and train sharp sharp in his backyard.
And worst part is that they were just returning from match not too long ago and he just wanted to relax in Ronaldo's place


Like Ronaldo once said, "Everybody wants to be like me and it's easy. Just do what I do with discipline and consistency".

But sadly only few people can do what he does consistently.

You don finish work Honourable.
This is why Messi is an alien. Tactic o, fitness o, gym o... nothing concern Baba with all these things.

Ronaldo is really good in that aspect. I like how he is building his young boy.

Tomas Eisfield
Dan Crowley
Gideon Zelalem
Fran Merida
Semi Ajayi
Eberechi Eze
Harry Kane
Tim Akinola (we're playing Arteta and Flamini at DM and this guy was with he U23)
Malen (now in Dortmund)
Afobe
Nathan Tella (Leverkusen)
Ozyakup
Yunus Musa
Ismail Bennacer


These are some of the talents we have let go in the past. Heaven no fall.

Spy360:
Everyone is against academy players leaving. The question is how is it Arteta's fault?

Is he the one coaching the academy? Or is he the one fixing contracts for the players?

Last season most of our bench players hardly got playing time because we exited both the FA cup and the Carabao cups early. Or you want him to play academy in a PL or CL match? When there are other senior players (both those in bench and returning from injury) that haven't seen enough minutes?

Gbam! That's the point o.
Jo.de.ra said something about having strong and reliable bench for next season. I don't see how promoting academy players who are untested will help us achieve this.

Jodera:
The bolded is the reason I'm not too sad about Duberry even though I'm disappointed he's moving on. We fit claim say he's ready and good and all from wetin we dey watch from afar but Arteta and the crew fit have different ideas. Or perhaps, they just want a different approach.

Anyhow Sha, Na Nwaneri be the kid I believe they're looking for to promote. The hype and belief around him, even from our players as you rightly said is much.

Anyways, all these ones no matter as long as say we deh win trophies. Na just make we start to win the important trophies naim be the koko

That's why I don't really buy into the 'Arteta doesn't promote youngsters' talk.
None of us here know how things dey go in training. The Patino we're clamouring for, he couldn't start up to five games since January. Where is Azeez now? Spain division 2. I don't know how Balogun is doing but he has not replicated that recent form of two seasons ago.

If spending in another winger will improve the team and take us more steps forward, I'll take it.

iamoyindamola:
Na today we they run for trophy
So na academy players they stop us before, we better sell saka then

You're getting this wrong bro.
Let's spend money and buy player wey go help us win trophies first.

Put yourself in Kroenke's shoe. Which should come first? Sign players that will improve the squad or promote untested academy boys.

City who are way better than us, let go to Mahrez. They brought in Doku and sold Palmer. Palmer could have easily slot in as Mahrez's replacement but he was impatient.

do4luv14:
Kvara weytin sup na, why everywhere Dry like that biko

A whole king of Naples o

Jodera:
You get am well. You see that recovery and nutrition, they said Saka takes it very very seriously. Like he doesn't joke with it at all.

If you check most of this top athletes that hardly go injuries ehhn, if you see their fitness regimen, Baba you go run

Na Ronaldo own be the Oga pata pata
I doubt any footballer can strictly follow that with discipline

Yea... This is why the guy is still durable despite the kicks he suffers every game.

Haaland also practises the nutrition and the diet stuff. I salute Ronaldo for that sha.
The only player that's still good and doesn't do all these fitness and nutrition stuff is Messi.

Man is tough. I heard he doesn't gym much. Baba go come training, do small run and play ball. O pari. And he is still durable now. Imagine na Tierney dey collect all those kicks from Pepe and Ramos that year. Chei

iamoyindamola:
So we can agree they should close the academy since they are all useless instead of wasting money to develop them

If this is the conclusion you were able to come up with, you can go with it.

iamoyindamola:
This is all I need to see to know who I am dealing with
The same wingers didn't pass through this phase they just jumped in
Calibre of players indeed

You dey run? Tell me how many minutes Dubbery has played in EPL for the senior team. Smith Rowe and Nelson went on loan before they became a mainstay in the team. Saka was brought in to play left back when we lack options and he seized the opportunity.

Nico, Rashford, Olise are some wingers on our radar. Na them you dey compare with Dubbery? Ok na.
Abeg stop this thing. For now, we go for trophies. When time reach, we will promote whoever we want promote.

Ijustwantto:
I just feel like asking football lovers this question
Who is the king of dribbling between this two?

This is hard o. Ronnie has the skills and flair, Messi has the close control...

iamoyindamola:
You are going round and round without hitting the main issue
Did obi rejected the contract or not, did Bayern make interest or not
Yamal is 16, psg are Interested in Jim to replace mbappe
Where is the lie?

For the FFP, everyone knows that's why we didn't buy in January stop making it look like you made us know it
If dubbery is going to be a good deputy for saka why do we have to lose him for free to buy one expensive for 50m
FFP regulation is 200m net, if we spend 50m to get saka deputy is that not penny wise stupid deal when we could have gotten one for free in the academy
Do you really understand how football club run finances or you are only interested in emotional talk

Where did you read that Obi rejected the contract? Show us the fact here not hearsay. A rumour that was started by one United kid on Twitter FFS.

Yamal is 16 so he is eligible to move. Your stance that day was that he is below the 16 years old and he is playing for Barca.

The bolded is just pettiness. Nothing else.

You want to make Dubbery a deputy for Saka, while competing for trophy at the same time? People who sat together and decided to buy another winger knew better than you who is a mere fan so I find it funny calling that a stupid deal. Like really?

Look at the calibre of wingers we're linked to and compare with Dubbery. Someone who has not tasted senior football at all. And you will come here calling out the coach for losing the trophy? Stay one place Oga. Wenger did all the promotion stuff for years and what did we gain from it?

You go teach us how football finance works on this thread. I'm interested.

For me o, make we win trophy anyhow. I don't really see the fuss about academy youngsters moving. I'm a human too and if Dubbery were my brother, I would advise him to move.

There are four wingers for two positions and we're still been linked to another wingers. In a less important match, the backups will need game time too, to stay sharp.

We crashed out to Liverpool in the carabao last season even with backups. In a match like this, how do you think these youngsters will perform?

Before blaming the coach, let's examine the situation first and empathise.

abduleez1:
Senior man na im you dey doubt.

He Sabi book but he dey play rubbish?

iamoyindamola:
Oya bring out the lies or point to it
Me run?
Dont flatter yourself I wasn't ready for some hear say or them say arguments going on here, I deal with facts
Are we under FFP or not?
Why didn't we buy players in January?
Table your emotional facts bros

What do you understand by FFP? I go like learn.

I was one of those who mentioned the FFP stuff in January. Partey was supposed to move and Raya deal made permanent so we can loan Toney.

Currently, with the end of season revenue (UCL and EPL inclusive), added to the proceeds from players sale, FFP shouldn't be a problem.

You were here calling for Arteta's head when the rumour about Obi moving to Bayern dropped here. Told you je has been offered a new deal but you said he is moving. You even mentioned Arda Guler and Yamal as examples of U16 who completed transfers recently which is false.

So, chill...not all the youngsters will make the first team. There is even a clear out going on in the academy. Per was given around 30m to bring in new players.

TheGoodJoe:
Thanks for the post but it is just someone typing jargons. No disrespect to him. I will explain why.

He is telling us Spain is ditching the possession game, but telling us in their last 136 games, Spain has been a possession dominant team.

What he could not see was De La Fuente was also among the coaches that achieved that possession dominance for Spain.

Another, he said Lamine Yamal is one of the bright spots that has come out of ditching possession football.

Is that not a joke? Lamine Yamal is from Barcelona La Masia Academy. Groomed in the art of possession play. In club football, Xavi Hernandez who is a possession heavy master coach, gave Lamine his breakthrough.

So when did Spain ditch Tiki Taka? That is a hilarious point. Was De La Fuente not a possession heavy coach while he coached the youth ranks of Spain?

So now Spain won the possession game against Italy, will we say that Spain has picked the possession game?

Calm down abeg. Xavi was brought up with tikitaka but he didn't play any possession football when he was coaching Barca.

That Yamal came from La Masia doesn't mean he plays tikitaka. Fermin Lopez is another breakout kid under Xavi and that boy doesn't entertain any tikitaka nonsense.

You and your squad were so quick to call for Arteta's head here because he couldn't win the league but you still want him to use an untested academy product as backup next season.

All of us here don't follow them to training. Let the coach do his job. In recent years, City let go of Romeo Lavia (brought in Kalvin Philip), let go of Sam Edozie and Palmer yet heaven no fall.

This youngster agenda don dey stale abeg.

iamoyindamola:
You don't know how things work instead of you to be open minded and look at it in a better angle you will be shouting emotional
We are currently one big transfer from FFP we are not selling because majority of them are fringe players instead we are buying big
If dubbery is good enough enough to stand as back up for saka imagine how much we will save with that
But but it's emotional this emotional that
We have lots of useless players to sell which none of them can command 30-40m at a go
We have a coach that's not looking at the academy products way, imagine if a coach didn't promote the likes of saka, ESR for him
They will go for cheap and we will be struggling with FFP but we are emotional

Make una continue jare

We all know your stance concerning this youngster talk and it is based on emotion. Let's forget how you ran when you push that Obi agenda here only to peddle falsehood. See the way you use the FFP to cover your main agenda again.
Ramsdale
Nelson
Nketiah
Vieira
ESR
Partey

This is a list of players that are likely to leave this summer. How you came about none of them fetching us 30m is surprising.

Cozier was offered contract same way Obi and Ethan were offered contract. He declined because he knew the competition is tough. How is that the coach's fault?

johnjunior39:
I want to cry , first that obi guy now Duberry.

I so much love this Duberry guy. Arteta should take this blame

Which blame?

I don't really understand this emotional attachment to every youngsters whenever they're leaving. Nelson can't even make the bench again not to talk of Duberry. We have like 3 solid wingers now and we're looking to add more so it make sense if the kid moves on.

BTW, Has Obi left Arsenal?

Jodera:
It's so sad.
I also think all these fragile players needs to watch their diet cos I don't believe in this time, age and invention, one's body won't be "built for sport".

One of the reasons Saka says he's durable is because he cut(completely stopped) eating pizza, Sugars (like Cakes, fizzy drinks and all) and also careful with the kind of food he takes.

Ronaldo lasting in the game for long too is the most popular example and inspiration about dieting. Most of these players should imbibe these into their sporting lives. I know it won't be easy but it's the sacrifice they need to make at least to last in the game.

If na person like Partey wey don old, it's understandable but not Prime Tierney. It's just so sad he's always breaking down recurrently, I just hope he does something about it.

Excellent point. Let me add that recovery time is also important. I read a report days ago where it was stated that Saka take recovery time serious. Like as soon as he got to the camp, he went to check out the recovery room, gym and other necessary accessories he will need for his recovery. He is also the last to leave after training session (at Arsenal)