₦airaland Forum

NaijaPikinGidi:
This Chad story is something we extensively put to rest since the 3rd of February. The phantom SA mercenary story is a waste of time. All sorted, debunked and put to rest long ago!

SA mercenaries is not a phantom but a reality, but the truth shall always prevail. Soon, everything will become clearer.

http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/business-as-unusual-goodluck-jonathan-privatises-nigerian-relations-with-south-africa

Privatization of SA and Nigeria's relations.


http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/business-as-unusual-goodluck-jonathan-privatises-nigerian-relations-with-south-africa

agaugust:
[size=13pt]More details? Rubbish. Still a recycle of the same story from one private man Mr.Bleeds who has no proof of his mercenary story.

Anybody with a news web page online can write any fake story he likes.

Ugandan news papers published story that Ugandan army has mobilized full battalion ready to help Nigeria to be deployed in combat against Boko Haram in February, now this is March and no Ugandan army has moved one inch.

Show us photos of SANDF mercenaries in Nigeria because both SANDF and Nigerian DHQ denied it.

Your source says the SA is training NDF Nigerian Defence Forces and that name does NOT exist in Nigeria, what you call more details is actually more errors....NDF does not exist in Nigeria, i think your mercenaries are missing somewhere lost inside Mandela's Kruger Park chasing Rhino Poachers
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Institute of security studies confirmed it dummy.




http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/business-as-unusual-goodluck-jonathan-privatises-nigerian-relations-with-south-africa

rka1:
Comical

Yes, I agree so comical to know that Nigeria has no competent pilots. Bwahahahaha!!!

Henry120:
Humour me!

Abuja reportedly got cleared with South-Africa's top government echelon but your "minister of defence" isn't aware.

So, who's your government top echelon, it's pretty clear South-Africa runs a banana republic government.

You don't make any sense.

rka1:
Nigerian pilots are the most experienced pilots south of the sahara my friend and often come tops in foreign academies, so take your mumuness elsewhere.

Yet, old apartheid pilots are cruising with their jets.

iterator24:
all those Nigerian media referenced SA media.. quoting your defense minister specifically.

Game over.

iterator24:
100 soldiers playing a major role in a state the size of scotland...hahahaha..

Yes they control the whole of your air force.

rka1:
What rubbish. Mercs were used in Biafra because new platforms were delivered in months without the time to train pilots. NAF have plenty of pilots that have been training in Eastern Europe for a long time and we are a already familiar with the platforms.

Let's run with your merc scenario. If they exist, they would be advisers and also flying their own helics with pintle mounted guns.

The fact that your pilots are not trained up to standard mercenaries were needed dummy.

Henry120:
Now post that garbage make believe in it's rightful section.

A report that contradicts itself should be taken seriously

Abuja has reportedly insisted that the deal had been cleared with President Jacob Zuma – and the ex-SADF soldiers now in Nigeria have likewise also insisted that their involvement was cleared at the highest echelons of the South African government, even if the defence minister did not know about it.

So, what is wrong with that statement? Please, kindly brief us with facts.

Henry120:
Now post that garbage make believe in it's rightful section.

Henry you will never stop those mercenaries from operating in your own country.

Henry120:
Actually when it concerns Nigeria and the COIN campaign, I can categorically state that they don't.

Why don't I ignore it........... it's Nigeria they are talking about dummy, and that's very much my business.


The report is Rubbish, yes.

Yet, without facts. Henry you will never know the secret that your country is involved in until you become the President of federal republic of Nigeria.

saengine:
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Ex-SA-soldiers-playing-major-role-in-fight-against-Boko-Haram-20150305

Ex-SA soldiers 'playing major role in fight against Boko Haram


[b]Cape Town – Former South African Defence Force soldiers are reportedly playing a major role in the fight against Boko Haram extremists in Nigeria after they were hired by the west African country.

According to the Institute for Security Studies(ISS) several ex-South African Air Force (SAAF) pilots were also participating in the war against the Islamist insurgents.The report said the South African team together with other military experts from Britain, United States and France had contributed significantly to the recent successes of the Lake Chad Basin Commission forces against Boko Haram.

"The former SADF members are definitely playing a major role in this offensive. They have been in country for a significant time already, involved in training some specialised NDF [Nigerian Defence Forces] units," a former military intelligence was quoted as saying.

Beeld reported in January that the former SA soldiers were to form the core of a multinational team of private military experts to fight Boko Haram.The report, at the time, said that the 100-strong team had been tasked with training the Nigerian military in a massive campaign against the terrorist organisation.

This came after a Nigerian presidential security adviser stated that Nigeria's campaign against Boko Haram was being hampered by "cowards" within the armed forces, signalling dissatisfaction with how the military is handling the situation.  But Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakuladismissed the so called former SADF soldiers as mercenaries and said that they should be arrested when they return home.

"The police have a responsibility to ensure that, when they come back, those people are arrested and the [National Prosecutions Authority] has a responsibility to charge them. There are consequences for going out of the country and provide any form of military assistance as a mercenary, not as part of the deployment by government," Mapisa-Ngqakula was quoted as saying.

Abuja has reportedly insisted that the deal had been cleared with President Jacob Zuma – and the ex-SADF soldiers now in Nigeria have likewise also insisted that their involvement was cleared at the highest echelons of the South African government, even if the defence minister did not know about it.[/b]

I never got into this discussion before. Just find it interesting that more details seem to be coming out.

Nothing but the truth. Nigeria's sorties are flown by mercenaries just like during yesteryears in Biafra.

There are many reports that Nigerian air force has now been outsourced to SA mercenaries. They are the ones who do the bombings not Nigerian pilots.

Henry120:
You piece of sh1t!!!!

How dare you compare that obsolete half-french helicopter your government doesn't want to the Rafale.

The Rafale is a high end 4++ fighter, it's capabilities were never in doubt, plus it had also carried out long range bombing/surveillance Operations in actual wars.

The Rooivalk was rejected everywhere it went because of it's capabilities. Even the british who have strong cultural ties with South-Africa rejected it.

The Rooivalk is a bad.....bad Helicopter. The incompetent SANDF proves this with only 10 units in active service.



Fool, your Analogy doesn't fit into the picture.

The Algerians want to build fauch APC's at home, the Algerians have to pay more.

The Algerians also want to build T-90's at home, they also have to pay more.

The Indians want to build Rafales at home, the Indians have to pay more.



No company has all the component it needs at home. Components purchase from outside sources are common place in the Defence industry.

The J.S.F programme isn't 100% American.

Rooivalk was denied on the ground that it was never tested dummy, but after its outing in Congo many countries started showing interests.

rka1:
Exactly, you guys had fled and left the brave Chaans do what you guys couldn't. Hollywood excuse of a national defence force.

We never fled, we merely followed orders by the parliament of RSA to beg down following the massacre we committed.

rka1:
You are becoming more deranged as time goes by. Do you think if Nigeria stooped the engagements going on now and turn their full attention on Chad they will be anywhere near ? Fo*OK

Little do you know that a lot of the commanders and foot soldiers of book haram iin the border regions are Chadians as well as Nigeriens.

This Idriss that you love, wasn't he the one that tried or trick Nigeria into a seizefire by guaranteeing BH surrender?

They are only now interested because their economy is affected after Nigeria's clampdown and are trying to claim unwarranted glory for a 2 town success when we have cleared 34out of 36 communities.
Don't worry your low IQs, the truth is coming out.

Chad made such an undeniable and unprecedented progress that Nigerian forces has never achieved in their war against terror.

rka1:
Get lost you pretend Southie. You are half Nigerian whether you like it or not, so you are trolling yourself. You will never be fully accepted as a Southie and we don't want you as well.

You extol Chad because they saved South Africas bacon in CAR.

Chad was no where in CAR when we decimated child soldiers who were calling upon their mommies. Chad came later when we were already gone.


Yes, I also do have Nigerian blood me, that I don't deny, but I see myself as more South African than Nigerian.

DieVluit:
LOL

Abeg oga Derby

[size=16]CHAD BEAT UP THE DOG WITH STICKS AND BRICKS AND THE DOG CRIED UNTIL THE OWNER CAME OUT TO PLEAD ON ITS BEHALF. THIS IS A CLEAR PROOF THAT JONATHAN'S GOVERNMENT IS FULLY BEHIND BOKO HARAM. IT IS USED AS A POLITICAL AGENDA AND A CASH COW TO EXTRACT MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT. WHY DID THEY STOP CHAD FROM FLUSHING OUT TERRORISTS IN NIGERIA?

THERE ARE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE CABINET OF JONATHAN WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF BOKO HARAM AND WHO KNOW WELL THAT NIGERIAN MILITARY IS JUST A LIMPING GIANT THAT CANT DEFEAT BOKO HARAM. NOW, THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW CHAD WAS SUCCEEDING IN DEMOLISHING THEIR ONLY HOPE TO GRAB ONTO POWER. SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE AND THAT WAS TO STOP CHAD. THOSE WHO MADE THAT DECISION MUST BE INVESTIGATED. THE REAL LEADER OF BOKO HARAM IS WITHIN THE CABINET AND MUST COME OUT, PRES IDRISS HAS ORDERED.[/size]

agaugust:
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Stop lying dude, you accuse people of lying, yet you patches is the resident liar on Nairaland

South Africa has NO Badger production facility.

All 6 Badgers manufactured in Finland exported to South Africa

The total contract to the consortium is R 8.3 billion. An initial R 1.048 billion order was placed in 2007 to develop a prototype of each variant, followed by 12 pre-production vehicles. During the manufacturing phase, the first 37 production vehicles will be built by Patria in Finland, then the other 227 will be produced in South Africa.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Finland owns South Africa

Game Over....ALL Patches lies de.molished with one post

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Where does it say Finland owns South Africa? Stop making a joke of yourself, SA will do 70% of the project and Finland only 30%.

agaugust:
The topic of this thread is strongest military on the African continent, not regions.

Chad Vs South Africa, who has a better army....compare war performance in the last 10 years

Answer, coward !

South Africa will erase Chad out of the face of the earth

agaugust:
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Question, who has a better army, Chad or South Africa ?
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Chad is the best and powerful military in west Africa. SA rules southern part of Africa.

[size=16]ALL THAT NIGERIA COULD DO TO STOP CHADIAN FORCES TO FINALLY DECIMATE BOKO HARAM TO THE LAST BREATH WAS TO SAY " PLEASE!!! HAVE MERCY, DO NOT KILL OUR PEOPLE THAT MUCHOOO, REMEMBER THEY ARE STILL NIGERIAN CITIZENSOOOO!!!. DONT KILL ALL OF THEMOOO!! I BEG.[/size]

[size=16]CHAD TROOPS DO NOT TAKE NONSENSE FROM TERRORISTS, THEY SOLVED A MATTER THAT TOOK NIGERIA MORE THAN FIVE YEARS IN JUST ONLY TWO MONTHS TIME UNTIL NIGERIA CAME OUT TO DEFEND ITS OWN DYING TERRORISTS. CHAD'S POTENT POISON IS SO MUCH THAT THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE TROUBLED BY RATS WILL COME OUT IN DEFENCE OF HIS DYING RATS.[/size]

Henry120:
Chad carried out operations in Nigeria because they are mandated to. The only person seeing shame is you.

Thanks for admitting that Chad saved your a.ss. Their contribution is undeniable.

Well done!!! Henry.

Henry120:
Hey fool,

Chad and Niger have been operating in Nigeria since 1994. There's nothing new in task force members operating in each other's border region.

Chadian troops have been operating in the MNJTF AOR. Malamfotori, dikwa and gambarou are well within the areas of responsibility.

Nigerian and chadian forces operated in gambarou and dikwa. I don't know where the fuss is all coming from.

Nigerian troops have and still continue to carry out over 90% of the operations in this task force.

Nigerian troops have and still continue to carry out over 30% of the operations in this task force. FACT… FACT…FACT… Nigerian forces failed to hold onto Baga military base immediately when foreign forces pulled out and left it alone. It failed to carry out its imaginary 90% of the task and instead they have shown us the fastest way a soldier can run in an Olympic competition and lost the town to BH. They only managed to recover it in the presence of other foreign forces particularly Chad. FACT…FACT…FACT…

lezz:
How could one deny what didn't exist?

Why would one rebuff an assertion that is bogus, malicious and utterly devoid of facts?

You're hurting and frustrated because the Nigerian army is making a mince meat of boko haram.

Bokoharam has 2 dangerous headquarters- the vast sambisa forest and baga. But the Nigerian army has unilaterally smoked them off and out.

That's your frustration and disappointment.
Now you can choke on your rage and pain, no one would even notice.

Egypt has acknowledged the might of the Nigerian army officially.
Even your president has officially begged for a defence pact.


Tell me why would the opinion of a clerk like you worth the effort of rebuffing?

We remain the pride of the continent, of the entire black race. You should be proud of us if only you aren't a scum.

Egypt has only commended you because you are both facing the same threat to National security. Simple!!!!

lezz:
. We only see losers like you who hope for the worse and pray for death.

You are ashamed the AU didn't lift a finger.

The UN didn't send troops.

Nigeria takes care of Nigeria.

You can save your tears for the pathetic force you call the sandf, what a joke.

Nope, Chad took care of Nigeria, confirmed by the citizens of Nigeria when they showed trust in Chadian military instead of the local forces, this as a result caused your jealous authorities to hamper Chad's mission in Nigeria out of shame.


FACT…FACT…FACT…FACT…FACT…FACT…FACT…FACT…

rka1:
They are allowed you misinformed excuse of a troll. Taking photos like that just proves they are glory hunting.

Chad have saved your a.ss.

lezz:
Being a Nigerian means I'm your superior in every conceivable way.

Unfortunately, it does not show in every conceivable way and even statistics deny it.

agaugust:
I quoted sources for everything I said, web links, photos, videos, etc. If you don't agree with those sources which I did NOT create, then hack into those sources websites and delete their data from internet.

Simple

You and your imaginary sources et al are big liars.

agaugust:
Nigeria produces Igirigi in Nigeria, not imported from Finland.

South African sources from DENEL say contract terms demand the first bath of many dozens of Badgers will be manufactured in Finland and imported by South Africa, Finland eats the Badger production money, you buy from Finland...hurts your pride ....sorry o ....Finland owns Badger, you borrow from them
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That's a misinformation sorry. In that case SA could have instead imported Patria AMV as it is.

The mighty Chadian Army.



http://news.yahoo.com/chad-president-tells-boko-haram-leader-surrender-face-191731700.html